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| − | == November 19, 2010 ==
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| − | Team spirit and Companion Cube pins were also added. -= [[User:M-NINJA|<font color="Blue">'''M-NINJA'''</font>]] [[File:Burger_Gib.png|24px|link=User_talk:M-NINJA]] =- 20:32, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|done}}. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#0B61A4;">[talk]</span>]] 20:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Should unreleased items really be listed? Because then we'd need to include the [[Jag]] and all that stuff. --[[User:CruelCow|CruelCow]] {{sta}} <sup>([[User_talk:CruelCow|talk]])</sup> 22:45, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Technically, the Jag is still being planned to be released once attributes are applied to it. With that said, if it is added, would it remain in the timeline when its model was put in the game files, or when it was made obtainable?
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| − | == 119th Update ==
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| − | [[Mercenary]] , [[Soldier_of_Fortune| Soldier of Fortune]] and [[Grizzled_Veteran| Grizzled Veteran]] were added. Later, in [[May_5,_2010_Patch| May 5, 2010 Patch]], [[Primeval_Warrior | Primeval Warrior]] was added. [[User:Mozgoed|Mozgoed]] 09:31, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|done}} also. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#0B61A4;">[talk]</span>]] 09:47, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Mann-Co update ==
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| − | Since the "Team Sprit" tool is added, should all other tools + [[Mann Co. Supply Crate]] be added? [[User:Bluh Bluh|BLUH]] 09:53, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|x|No thanks}} I originally created the page with just Weapons, Hats and Misc items. I expect democracy will win out and add Tools, etc. My only concern is the size of the page. So, i'll start the voting with a NO. But, wiki is for everyone, what do others think? (Please notice i have not undone the "teamspirit" entry before you cast stones) [[User:Nooch|Nooch]] 17:07, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Keep}} I was actually in the middle of adding the tools, like paint cans. They are technically items, I see no reason for their exclusion. The page is long as it is, a couple more items won't make a huge difference. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 17:10, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Keep}} What Moussekateer said. Also, Golden Wrench that isn't even obtainable is there, i don't see why the tools can't be in, with name tags and stuff. -- [[File:User Swordz Swordz.png|25px]][[User:Swordz|<span style="color:#70B04A;font-size:13px;font-family:
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| − | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><u>Swordz</u></span>]]{{mod}}[[File:User Swordz Swordz.png|25px]] <span style="font-size:10px">([[User talk:Swordz|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Swordz|contribs]])</span> 17:12, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Crit-A-Cola ==
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| − | CaC was actually added the day before the 119th update, in the April 28th patch. I'm not skilled enough in table modifications to fix it, but it should be fixed. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 18:53, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|done}}. [[User:Nooch|Nooch]] 19:07, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Alternative table restyling ==
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| − | {| class="wikitable grid" style="text-align: center;" width="100%"
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| − | !class="header" style="width: 5%" | Class
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| − | !class="header" style="width: 10%" | Item Type
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| − | !class="header" style="width: 15%" | Item Icon
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| − | !class="header" style="width: 25%" | Item Name
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| − | !class="header" | Notes
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| − | !class="subheader" colspan="5" | '''[[The Gold Rush Update|April 29, 2008]]''' — ''[http://steamgames.com/tf2/goldrush The Gold Rush Update]''
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| − | | rowspan="3" | {{Icon class|class=Medic|link=Medic}} <br/> [[Medic]]
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| − | | rowspan="3" | [[Weapon]]
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Blutsauger}}
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| − | | '''[[Blutsauger]]'''
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| − | | rowspan="3" align="left" | Also included in this update:
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| − | * 1 new game type (''[[Payload]]'').
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| − | * 1 new map (''[[Gold Rush]]'').
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| − | * [[Medic achievements]] pack.
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Kritzkrieg}}
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| − | | '''[[Kritzkrieg]]'''
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Übersaw}}
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| − | | '''[[Übersaw]]'''
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| − | !class="subheader" colspan=5| '''[[The Pyro Update|June 19, 2008]]''' — ''[http://steamgames.com/tf2/pyro The Pyro Update]''
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| − | | rowspan="3" | {{Icon class|class=Pyro|link=Pyro}} <br/> [[Pyro]]
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| − | | rowspan="3" | [[Weapon]]
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Backburner}}
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| − | | '''[[Backburner]]'''
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| − | | rowspan="3" align="left" | Also included in this update:
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| − | * [[Compression blast]] ability for the [[Flamethrower]].
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| − | * 2 new maps (''[[Fastlane]], [[Turbine]]'').
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| − | * [[Pyro achievements]] pack.
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Flare Gun}}
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| − | | '''[[Flare Gun]]'''
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Axtinguisher}}
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| − | | '''[[Axtinguisher]]'''
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| − | !class="subheader" colspan=5| '''[[A Heavy Update|August 19, 2008]]''' — ''[http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy A Heavy Update]''
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| − | | rowspan="3" | {{Icon class|class=Heavy|link=Heavy}} <br/> [[Heavy]]
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| − | | rowspan="3" | [[Weapon]] | |
| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Natascha}}
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| − | | '''[[Natascha]]'''
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| − | | rowspan="3" align="left" | Also included in this update:
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| − | * 1 new game type (''[[Arena]]'').
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| − | * 2 new maps (''[[Steel]], [[Badwater Basin]]'').
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| − | * [[Heavy achievements]] pack.
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Sandvich}}
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| − | | '''[[Sandvich]]'''
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Killing Gloves of Boxing}}
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| − | | '''[[Killing Gloves of Boxing]]'''
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| − | Thoughts?--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 16:44, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Approve}} I would support this reorganization. For discussion, i'd prefer a variation slightly less complicated. Maybe just change ''Class'' field to ''Group'' field that could indicate either class or item type?
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| − | {| class="wikitable grid" style="text-align: center;" width="100%"
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| − | !class="header" style="width: 10%" | Group
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| − | !class="header" style="width: 15%" | Item Icon
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| − | !class="header" style="width: 30%" | Item Name
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| − | !class="header" | Notes
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| − | !class="subheader" colspan="5" | '''[[The Gold Rush Update|April 29, 2008]]''' — ''[http://steamgames.com/tf2/goldrush The Gold Rush Update]''
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| − | | rowspan="3" | {{Icon class|class=Medic|link=Medic}} <br/> [[Medic]]
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Blutsauger}}
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| − | | '''[[Blutsauger]]'''
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| − | | rowspan="3" align="left" | Also included in this update:
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| − | * 1 new game type (''[[Payload]]'').
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| − | * 1 new map (''[[Gold Rush]]'').
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| − | * [[Medic achievements]] pack.
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Kritzkrieg}}
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| − | | '''[[Kritzkrieg]]'''
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Übersaw}}
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| − | | '''[[Übersaw]]'''
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| − | !class="subheader" colspan=5| '''[[The Pyro Update|June 19, 2008]]''' — ''[http://steamgames.com/tf2/pyro The Pyro Update]''
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| − | | rowspan="3" | {{Icon class|class=Pyro|link=Pyro}} <br/> [[Pyro]]
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Backburner}}
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| − | | '''[[Backburner]]'''
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| − | | rowspan="3" align="left" | Also included in this update:
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| − | * [[Compression blast]] ability for the [[Flamethrower]].
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| − | * 2 new maps (''[[Fastlane]], [[Turbine]]'').
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| − | * [[Pyro achievements]] pack.
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Flare Gun}}
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| − | | '''[[Flare Gun]]'''
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Axtinguisher}}
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| − | | '''[[Axtinguisher]]'''
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| − | !class="subheader" colspan=5| '''[[A Heavy Update|August 19, 2008]]''' — ''[http://steamgames.com/tf2/heavy A Heavy Update]''
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| − | | rowspan="3" | {{Icon class|class=Heavy|link=Heavy}} <br/> [[Heavy]]
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Natascha}}
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| − | | '''[[Natascha]]'''
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| − | | rowspan="3" align="left" | Also included in this update:
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| − | * 1 new game type (''[[Arena]]'').
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| − | * 2 new maps (''[[Steel]], [[Badwater Basin]]'').
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| − | * [[Heavy achievements]] pack.
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Sandvich}}
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| − | | '''[[Sandvich]]'''
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Killing Gloves of Boxing}}
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| − | | '''[[Killing Gloves of Boxing]]'''
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| − | |}
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| − | :Anyone else have opinions about these changes? [[User:Nooch|Nooch]] 18:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::For better readability, I wouldn't mix the classes with Item type. Maybe the best thing is scrapping the Item Type info entirely, and use you last vesion.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 01:46, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Do the first version with the item types, I like it a lot. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#EA6B1C;">[talk]</span>]] 04:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Killing Floor Promotion ==
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| − | Should the title of the [[Foster's Facade]] and [[Stockbroker's Scarf]] section be "Killing Floor Promotion" or whatnot, in the same vein as the Poker Night Promotional update that released the [[Dealer's Visor]]? --[[User:Fragment of Nothing|Fragment of Nothing]] 03:27, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|done}} [[User:Nooch|Nooch]] 03:38, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Blank "Also Included in This Update" sections ==
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| − | !class="subheader" colspan="4" | '''[[September 2, 2009 Patch|September 02, 2009]]''' — ''[http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2787 Team Fortress 2 update]''
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| − | | {{item icon|size=76px|Cheater's Lament}}
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| − | | '''[[Cheater's Lament]]'''
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| − | Such as the above. It doesn't look very nice, especially since there's even a bullet point there with nothing following. Perhaps we could add "nothing" after the bullet? I also notice that some entries for promo items and the like have a small blurb relevant to it (e.g. "Added Bill's Hat for players who pre-ordered Left 4 Dead 2"), while others are blank, so I'll go through and add that kind of simple information to fill in some of the blanks. [[User:Zarokima|Zarokima]] 13:31, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :To be honest, I almost regret to have added facts not tied to items (maps, gamemodes). So, yes, feel free to update the notes with appropriate facts.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 17:38, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == "In total" section ==
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| − | I think it'd be cool to have an extra list in the 'Notes' cell for a summary of what was released in the particular update, like for example, the Sniper v. Spy update, it would look like this:
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| − | In total:
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| − | * 9 [[Hats]] were released
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| − | * 6 [[Weapons]] were released
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| − | Obviously there's a point where it becomes stupid to list this for some of the smaller patches, however, for the larger ones that can be quite long I think a summary would suit. What do people think? [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#EA6B1C;">[talk]</span>]] 20:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ==Stock Items==
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| − | Seeing as they're the ''only'' items in the game that aren't included here, couldn't the stock weapons appear as well? They could have a short section at the beginning where they are grouped together, labeled "Stock Weapons", their release date would be "Initial Release" and we could be done with it? [[User:Stbeecher|Stbeecher]] 19:37, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Section headers per update ==
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| − | Being rather long, this page can become quite hard to navigate. I've '''[[User:seb26/sandbox/1|prepared a draft here]]''' which I propose to use. The changes include attaching a subheader tag to each of the title rows, forcing them to appear in the table of contents. This makes it a lot easier to navigate to a specific update and to locate the latest update, as well. What do people think? [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#1E90FF;">[talk]</span>]] 04:50, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
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