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== Misc crafting Q's. ==
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What time will we be able to start crafting it? I know it's after the Rift pre-purchase, but will there be an exact time?
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How will we find out how to craft it? Will TF2 wiki just know automatically? or will everyone have to find out by randomly crafting weapons together?
 
 
 
Lastly, What do you guys think we'll have to use to craft it? my best guess is an axtinguisher and some metal..... (like two reclaimed, or maybe even a refined!)
 
 
 
--[[User:Punisher1565|Punisher1565]] 01:43, 20 February 2011 (UTC)punisher1565
 
 
 
== Stats ==
 
 
 
Actually, if you go to tf2items Item list (http://www.tf2items.com/allitems.php), they are NOT the same as the Axtinguisher. You may want to change that.[[User:Borg184|Borg184]] 00:02, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Droppable? ==
 
 
 
This seems like a rather must-have item for it to be only available by pre-ordering a $50 game which costs $15/mo. Are we sure that it won't drop or be craftable? I don't think any other promotional items have been obtainable outside of the promotion, right? [[User:Pez|Pez]] 00:15, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:We don't know yet. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 00:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:I'd think it'd almost have to be seeing as it has unique stats. But who knows. [[User:Sage J. Fox|Sage J. Fox]] 00:19, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::[http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4965 We have our answer]. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 00:20, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Nice, thanks. [[User:Pez|Pez]] 03:39, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::The promo item loses its genuine quality when you trade it so it will be same value as one that you can craft later on, unfortunatly. [[User:Turtlebolt|Turtlebolt]] 06:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::::Not true, read the sitenotice at the top of the site. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 06:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::Thank you for pointing that out i read on a different page that you would lose the genuine quality which seemed silly in the first place. [[User:Turtlebolt|Turtlebolt]] 06:23, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Eternal flames? ==
 
 
 
I've tested this weapon out, and when I hit anyone, the afterburn seems to last forever. I even tested this out on a Heavy, and it went for over 40 seconds before he died from it. Is there an actual end to this afterburn (aside from the other options of getting rid of it, such as Medkits, Medics, etc), or is it just really long? [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 00:41, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
*Seems to be a bug at the moment. [[User:Jenkson|Jenkson]] 02:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
*Maybe it was meant to be that way? You do get them by buying a $50 game...  [[User:Vetterlinj|Vetterlinj]] 03:40, 4 February 2011 (UTC)Vetterlinj
 
*But then you are able to craft it sometime during the pre-order period. [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 03:51, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
*But maybe its only with Genuine? why not make them Vintage? Why create a whole new title?[[User:Vetterlinj|Vetterlinj]] 04:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)Vetterlinj
 
::Well before Genuine was added, there were 3 unused qualities, Genuine being the former rarity2. Obviously Valve decided to finally put one of the 3 into use. I'm starting to wonder if all promotional items will gain Genuine quality. [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 16:29, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Are we for sure its a "Bug"? ==
 
 
 
After all, the description does say "On Hit: target is engulfed in flames" instead of "On Hit: target is ignited".
 
 
 
I believe this was an intentional feature of the axe, given that it is made from lava and does not spew/cause fire like the Flamethrower(s)/Flare Gun so much as just giving the target a very, very bad burn. --[[User:KajiVena|KajiVena of TheVille]] 20:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:It's most likely a bug. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]]  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 20:37, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::It may be Valve experimenting with ways of increasing Fire's potential and letting the Pyro rely on Afterburn more. --[[User:KajiVena|KajiVena of TheVille]] 20:44, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:An '''infinite''' afterburn, with no ways to be extinguished by friendly Engies/Medics sounds '''a lot''' like a bug to me. Besides, Valve has the public Beta to test such things.--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 10:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Why is my trivia deleted? ==
 
 
 
I made a trivia edit saying that the ends of the weapon glow in the dark, which I thought would be trivia material. Now, it's gone. What happened? Is it not trivial enough?
 
 
 
[[User:Jenkson|Jenkson]] 19:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
: Some idiot edited it down to practically nothing, and since his work was sup-par at best and nobody wanted to undo it, I just got rid of it.  Honestly don't think it was needed anyways, we have a separate page for defining self-illuminated stuff.  Sorry about that. :/  -- [[User:Henry Spencer|Henry Spencer]] [[File:Backpack_Gentleman's_Gatsby.png|36px|link=User_talk:Henry Spencer]] 19:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:: Well this 'idiot' did not see the point of a big long list of things that glowed in the first place, especially since the category was on the page anyway. My wiki cap laughs at your 'sub-par' jibe and quite frankly I don't care if people wanted to undo it or not. So suck up and tough up, sweetie. :)--<span style="color:purple">'''''Focusknock'''''</span> 19:21, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::: Someone else (i.e. not you) edited his stuff out, and instead of reverting it, I just took the rest off.  His name isn't showing up on the list, for some reason, but I appreciate you waving your ego around. :) -- [[User:Henry Spencer|Henry Spencer]] [[File:Backpack_Gentleman's_Gatsby.png|36px|link=User_talk:Henry Spencer]] 19:48, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::: FYI, Wiki cap =/= ego. It's proof that I'm good at editing this wiki, which is what I was trying to say in rebuttal to your comment. Nice to see you taking a 'them and us' approach to wiki caps, though. Maybe you're just jelly, as they say?--<span style="color:purple">'''''Focusknock'''''</span> 19:43, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
:I'm afraid that your trivia fell into "X of Y" [[Help:Style_guide/Trivia|category]].--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 19:24, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
::Sorry but what is "X of Y" trivia anyways? <span style="color: #cc6600; font-family: Tf2 Build;"><big>[[User:Smashbrother101|Smash]][[User Talk:Smashbrother101|brother]][[User:Smashbrother101#Bios|1]][[User:Smashbrother101#Gallery|0]][[User:Smashbrother101#Loadout|1]]</big></span> 23:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::[[Help:Style_guide/Trivia|Here are the trivia guidelines]]. X of Y means: "This is the first X to ...", "This is the only X to..." or "This is one of N Xs to...".  -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]]  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 23:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:::Ah I see! Well that was helpful (very debatable, but helpful). <span style="color: #cc6600; font-family: Tf2 Build;"><big>[[User:Smashbrother101|Smash]][[User Talk:Smashbrother101|brother]][[User:Smashbrother101#Bios|1]][[User:Smashbrother101#Gallery|0]][[User:Smashbrother101#Loadout|1]]</big></span> 23:59, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Afterburn (bugs) ==
 
 
 
Isn't it that all burn/afterburn kills display as melee kills (whatever melee weapon you are using)? As it is now it says that the primary weapon is shown. Which is not the case as far as I know.
 
 
 
[[User:Hassun|Hassun]] 21:32, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Name Color ==
 
As far as I know, the name of the genuine item displays in an olive green color and not black. Does anyone have an updated image for the page? --[[User:Smashdaisaku|Smashdaisaku]] 00:23, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:Ctrl-F5 the page a few times, it's a cache thing. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 00:25, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Only extinguished by...? ==
 
 
 
Currently it says: "The afterburn caused by this weapon lasts for an extended period of time and is not extinguished by extensive healing from a Medic or a friendly Dispenser. Currently, only Health kits, thrown Sandviches and Buffalo Steak Sandviches, the Medi Gun's ÜberCharge, and Resupply Cabinets can extinguish the fire. "
 
But what about water and airblasts? They both have the ability to extinguish normal fire, but they should be listed in either the cannot or the can list. It might seem to obvious that they can do it, but Huntsman arrows also burn underwater, so if someone could test it, cause I have no idea how weapon editing works... [[User:PredatorDuck|PredatorDuck]] 15:17, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:Since the weapon is quite rare most of us cannot test it properly. I asked Shugo if he could do te test; he said yes but no news so far. I suppose the best thing is to wait until it's craftable (I still believe its current behavior is bugged though).--[[User:Kid Of The Century|Kid Of The Century]] 17:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
::I also think it's a bug, but to remain on topic, thanks for asking him, I hope he can reply soon. [[User:PredatorDuck|PredatorDuck]] 21:36, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Afterburn damage? ==
 
 
 
It might be a good idea to test out whether or not the Degreaser affects the afterburn damage of this weapon, whenever someone has time and the weapon.
 
-[[User:Tribor|Tribor]] 22:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
 
:Does the deagrease affect the afterburn of the flare gun? If no, then It would not affect this I would think. [[User:Freq.|Freq.]] 04:05, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Misc crafting Q's. ==
 
 
 
What time will we be able to start crafting it? I know it's after the Rift pre-purchase, but will there be an exact time?
 
 
 
How will we find out how to craft it? Will TF2 wiki just know automagically? or will everyone have to find out?
 
 
 
Lastly, What do you guys think we will have to use to craft it? my best guess is an axtinguisher and some metal..... (like two reclaimed, or maybe even a refined!)
 
 
 
--[[User:Punisher1565|Punisher1565]] 01:18, 20 February 2011 (UTC)Punisher1565
 
:We don't know anything you don't (for the most part). You'll find out the same time as other editors on the wiki. As for your guesses, that sort of discussion is more suitable for the [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80 Steam forums]. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 01:23, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
 

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