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| − | == Right in the ovary. ==
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| − | Inb4 Villain's Veil = [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Villain's_Vale Villain's Vale]. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:16, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Is this Villain's Vale a bandanna too? <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[Image:User_Biz_Heart.png|15px|link=]] [[User:Biz|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build;color:#FF0000;">Biz</span>]]</span> 19:26, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::No, it's an area in ''Kingdom Hearts II'' with a similar-sounding name. I'm just being proactive. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:27, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::Oh okay, hehe. I couldn't tell what it was cuz the link doesn't really lead anywhere. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[Image:User_Biz_Heart.png|15px|link=]] [[User:Biz|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build;color:#FF0000;">Biz</span>]]</span> 19:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::::It doesn't? *click* Huh, thought that would work. Fixed. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:34, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Keyblade unlock for Soldier. Make it happen Valve. '''''<span style="font-size:100%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 04:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Or better yet, [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Sharpshooter Sharpshooter] rifle and [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Xigbar Xigbar] scars and eyepatch for Sniper. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::Yikes. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[Image:User_Biz_redtf.png|link=]] [[User:Biz|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build;color:#FF0000;">Biz</span>]]</span> 19:08, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::Just think of all the hats they could add. '''''<span style="font-size:100%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 08:56, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Picture ==
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| − | the description says it's brown, but it's white in the picture? [[User:Matimoo|Matimoo]] 07:56, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Give it a while, it'll show the right pic soon. '''''<span style="font-size:100%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 07:57, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Price ==
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| − | Purchase price is $12.99 [[User:Turtlebolt|Turtlebolt]] 11:32, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Numbered? ==
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| − | While i was on a trade server i saw some people selling the new hats (villains veil, team captain etc.) numbered.
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| − | Eg. Selling Villain's Veil #3
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| − | He told me that his best offer so far was a max head or ghost sola topai. I said that was a ridiculous price for a hat that would go down in value but apparently the number 3 means alot :/
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| − | Can anyone tell me what this is about? [[User:Pierow|Pierow]] 10:00, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :The early crafters of the new hats got a number on them ranging from #1 to #100(?). Also, prices are subjective.{{n}}[[File:User_Ohyeahcrucz_Sig.png|20px|sub]] [[User:Ohyeahcrucz|<span style="text-shadow:blue 0px 0px 0px;font-size:13px;font-family: Tf2 Build"><font color="blue">Ohyeahcrucz]]</font></span> <span style="font-size:10px;font-weight:bold;font-family: helvetica"><font color="black"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User_talk:Ohyeahcrucz|T]]<nowiki>][</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Ohyeahcrucz|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></font></span> 10:03, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::I think they go past #100 too - and yes, low digit numbers can fetch some hefty prices. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[user:biz|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #000000;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;">'''biz'''</small>]]</span> 10:07, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::The ones that go past #100 don't show up in-game, but they show up in backpack viewers. {{n}}[[File:User_Ohyeahcrucz_Sig.png|20px|sub]] [[User:Ohyeahcrucz|<span style="text-shadow:blue 0px 0px 0px;font-size:13px;font-family: Tf2 Build"><font color="blue">Ohyeahcrucz]]</font></span> <span style="font-size:10px;font-weight:bold;font-family: helvetica"><font color="black"><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User_talk:Ohyeahcrucz|T]]<nowiki>][</nowiki>[[Special:Contributions/Ohyeahcrucz|C]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></font></span> 10:09, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Ah okay, thanks for clearing that up. <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[user:biz|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #000000;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;">'''biz'''</small>]]</span> 10:12, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Alright. I get it now. [[User:Pierow|Pierow]] 06:45, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == New versions of the pictures ==
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| − | The styles gallerys on this page don't represent how the images actually look ingame. This might be the fault of Model Viewer, though I'm not completely certain. Anyway, all of the images in the Smooth Assassin and Trained Killer sections need to be redone and reuploaded. If someone can figure out the the best way to get the images looking like they should in Model Viewer, please do so. Thanks. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 21:01, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | : Indeed, the fire overlay is especially visible on any of the black version of the Veil. It may cause quite a bit of confusion --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 14:47, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ==Similarity==
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| − | I'm relatively sure that at least ONE of you folks has played Call of Duty. Then, you might remember that Ghost, Captain MacTavish's right hand man, has a most memorable bandanna. Just like the Trained Killer one. The resemblance is striking, and although I don't think it's an actual reference, it might be worth taking a look at. Who made these styles, anyway? Valve or P®OOf? [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_7E7E7E.png|24px]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 13:35, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :While there is a resemblance, [http://www.google.ca/search?um=1&hl=en&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=P5vKTbz0Cunk0QGRloHqBw&ved=0CDcQvwUoAQ&q=Skull+bandana&spell=1&biw=1562&bih=833 Skull Bandanas] have existed for quite some time. It's not something Modern Warfare created so it's not really a reference. --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 14:21, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::Wait, this was a community-created misc item? Or was it just the styles? <span style="white-space: nowrap">[[user:biz|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #000000;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;">'''biz'''</small>]]</span> 17:14, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::If you can get the creator of the item to say so, then it's true. Until then, it's just speculation. '''''<span style="font-size:100%; font-style:italic;">[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|19px|link=User:Just_a_Gigolo]][[User:Just_a_Gigolo|Just a Gigolo]]</span> - ([[User talk:Just_a_Gigolo|talk]])''''' 17:26, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::Thanks for clearing that up. I suppose that we'll have to search for the fellow. I mean, the styles for the [[Googly Gazer]] were made by the creator, but Valve made the [[Blighted Beak]] styles. [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_7E7E7E.png|24px]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 02:54, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Actually the alternate Beak style was made by one of the original creator, Pie_tony (who is also working on styles for a bunch of other hats). [[User:Mutated|Mutated]] 21:42, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | The Skull style for the bandana does not reference MW2 in anyway. It is just a skull bandana. Besides, Ghost has a full face mask while this is just a bandana. [[File:Engineer_Update_Gunslinger.png|42x42px|link=User:Fate Soul Blake]][[User:Fate Soul Blake|Fate Soul Blake]] 16:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == CoD in TF2? ==
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| − | Does someone have noticed that the Trained Killer Style has a simiular design as this [http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/1465278?start=0&tstart=0 one]? [[File:Stunned.png|45px]] [[User:Ravecrib9t4|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#990099 ">The Noble Scout</span>]] <sub><sub>([[User talk:Ravecrib9t4|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Ravecrib9t4|C]])</sub></sub> 08:17, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :The designs don't really seem that similar to me, the actual type of wear is different (Bandanna/Balaclava,) and skulls/skull mouths on apparel has been a rather popular thing for a while, so even if it is similar, I doubt it's an actual reference to it. - http://nixshadow.com/images/icons/bat.png[[User:Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#996699 0px 0px 4px; font-family: courier, monospace; small-caps;"><font color="#bf7ede"><u>nixshadow</u>]] • </font></span>[[User_talk:Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#996699 0px 0px 2px; font-family: courier, monospace; small-caps;"><font color="#bf7ede">t]]|</font></span>[[Special:Contributions/Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#996699 0px 0px 2px; font-family: courier, monospace; small-caps;"><font color="#bf7ede">c]]</font></span> 07:24, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::Even if the Villain's Veil is a bandana and the example i showed is a snowmask, it wasn't ment to be a reference between them due to the design but they are very look-a-like i think.
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| − | :::[[File:Stunned.png|45px]] [[User:Ravecrib9t4|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#990099 ">The Noble Scout</span>]] <sub><sub>([[User talk:Ravecrib9t4|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Ravecrib9t4|C]])</sub></sub> 08:50, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::::Oh, well the wiki isn't really a place to make a conversation about "this looks like this," if you didn't mean for it to be added as a reference, may I ask you take this to [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=80 SUF]? http://nixshadow.com/mspa/smile/pleasant.gif That is a better place for what I guess is general conversations. <small>also, gonna mention this here, but the image in your signature is causing odd spaces between talk lines, may I ask that you make it smaller or remove it? Thanks</small> - http://nixshadow.com/images/icons/bat.png[[User:Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#996699 0px 0px 4px; font-family: courier, monospace; small-caps;"><font color="#bf7ede"><u>nixshadow</u>]] • </font></span>[[User_talk:Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#996699 0px 0px 2px; font-family: courier, monospace; small-caps;"><font color="#bf7ede">t]]|</font></span>[[Special:Contributions/Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#996699 0px 0px 2px; font-family: courier, monospace; small-caps;"><font color="#bf7ede">c]]</font></span> 08:00, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Err did you not notice this exact discussion just above? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 08:02, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::::: Well to be fair, I didn't. - http://nixshadow.com/images/icons/bat.png[[User:Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#996699 0px 0px 4px; font-family: courier, monospace; small-caps;"><font color="#bf7ede"><u>nixshadow</u>]] • </font></span>[[User_talk:Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#996699 0px 0px 2px; font-family: courier, monospace; small-caps;"><font color="#bf7ede">t]]|</font></span>[[Special:Contributions/Nixshadow|<span style="text-shadow:#996699 0px 0px 2px; font-family: courier, monospace; small-caps;"><font color="#bf7ede">c]]</font></span> 08:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | == Trivia ==
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| − | I added a bit in the trivia section about the veil being unsuual. It had been up for debate since it is a misc item, but one was recently unboxed. [http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198024381539/screenshot/560909119982991875]--[[User:The Blueberry Villain|The Blueberry Villain]] 18:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :It's not needed. Plain and simple. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 18:51, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | Hmm, well that's you opinion. I'm sure there are some curious if it can be unusual like the beak or phantom. Unlike the procedure mask. I guess I'm over ruled.--[[User:The Blueberry Villain|The Blueberry Villain]] 18:53, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :The Beak and Phantom pages don't have this as a trivia either. On top of that, if people are curious which hats and misc can be unusual, they can check [[Item_quality_distribution#unusual_quality_list|this page]]. <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 18:58, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :Thanks for pointing that out and explaining it to me hefaistus. As someone who uses this website a fair bit of time, I must say finiding that link isn't the intutive.--[[User:The Blueberry Villain|The Blueberry Villain]] 19:01, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | ::[[Quality#Unusual items]] to [[Item_quality_distribution#unusual_quality_list]]. Doesn't seem that far. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
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