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| − | Firstly I'd like like to make it clear that the Backburner was in fact affected by the (now) 10% damage nerf to the flamethrower. The BB does 15% more than the ''current'' damage of flamethrower, not the pre-update damage; if it did that, it would be doing closer to 25% more than the current FT damage, which it isn't according to the numbers here. So compared to the old Backburner, it's actually doing only about 3.5% more (115% of 90%), not 15%.
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| − | Secondly, is there a way we can express this on the page? Right now it's kind of misleading by not mentioning the nerf, implying that the Backburner actually got a straight 15% damage buff. [[User:Jimbo Jambo|Jimbo Jambo]] 06:37, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Yes? No? Should HIDDEN stats be added to the weapon info boxes? --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 18:20, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :I'd say yes, especially when they're not obvious like this — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 18:30, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: I'd say no, because the box should mirror what is shown in game, however, it should be noted somewhere. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#FF8C00;font-weight:bold">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] 18:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::Well that's fair, but it's still a weapon attribute, so maybe it should be written below the box? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 18:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::: Perhaps a deep-red font to distinguish it --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 18:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::Isn't there the hidden-attributes property for that? Makes it appear as black. Definitely very discreet. -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 18:42, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::: Holy Jesus on a moped, there is. Now i've just gotta edit the template so it's at the bottom instead of in the middle --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 18:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::: Also, should I add the "HIDDEN:" in front of it again? --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 18:46, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::lol, that's embarrassing. And no, you shouldn't add it; if it were to be added, it should be added to the template, not the backburner page. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 18:50, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::: There, look good? I don't know why it's in the middle as opposed to the bottom though, it would look better there. --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 18:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::Fix'd — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 18:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::Probably because the hidden attribute could be either positive or negative, so it sits between them rather than being under the negatives. -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 18:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::::::::I'm adding the hidden attribute again to the backburner; as far as I (and my items_game.txt) know, it <b>still</b> doesn't randomly crit - [[User:Mistah Phoenix|Mistah Phoenix]] 00:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
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| − | :::::::::::Each one of the articles about weapons which don't roll for critical hits, but only crit when certain conditions are met ([[Frontier Justice]], [[Ambassador]], [[Diamondback]], [[Market Gardener]]) all state, on the lead, that the weapon in question does not randomly crit. This seems to be the case for the Backburner, and so I agree it should be included. [[User:Adreadline|Adreadline]] 08:39, 26 September 2011 (PDT)
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| − | Didn't they add a firing sound for it slightly after the release of the Pyro Update? I do remember that when it was released, the Backburner used the same sound as the Flame-thrower. -- [[User:Vi3trice|<font color=#771d6d>'''Vi3trice'''</font>]] {{adm}} <sub>([[User_talk:Vi3trice|talk]])</sub> 19:06, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : That's mentioned in "Related Patches" --[[User:Firestorm|<font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}} 19:09, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
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| − | I think the backburner looks really cool, but I also think it's a crappy weapon,anybody know how I would go about making the standard FT or the Degreaser look like the backburner?? --[[User:Chaplin|Chaplin]] 00:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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