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== hospital teaser image in backround of medic page ==
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just wanna point out that the hospital in the teaser image is the exact same as the one in the background on the medics new page: http://www.teamfortress.com/classes.php?class=medic <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Ihasnotomato|Ihasnotomato]]''' ([[User talk:Ihasnotomato|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Ihasnotomato|contribs]]) 08:22, 21 June 2011 (PDT)</small>
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== Double Drop (June 3-10) Hidden Medic Gun ==
 
 
 
Should there be a mention of the hidden (Medic?) weapon from the double drop picture? http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/2968/doubledropweek.png
 
 
 
-[[File:BLU Fancy Fedora.png|31px|link=User:Aom]]
 
[[User:Aom776|<span style="color:blue">Aom776</span>]] 17:42, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
 
:It is a Medic Syringe Gun, but... WHEN will it come? [[User:Davo|Davo]] 13:09, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
Well now we know that its the [[Overdose]] so any chance this will make it on the Meet the Medic page? -[[File:BLU Fancy Fedora.png|31px|link=User:Aom776]] [[User:Aom776|<span style="color:blue">Aom776</span>]] 17:07, 1 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== What is the Pyro reading? ==
 
At the end of the movie, can anyone tell what magazine the pyro is reading? I can not get a good look it with my monitor; is it Hat-wearing Man? – [[User:Jmudge|Jmudge]] 20:00, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
 
:Looks like a Saxton Hale comic to me. <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]]''' ([[User talk:SilverHammer|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/SilverHammer|contribs]]) 03:54, 24 June 2011 (PDT)</small>
 
::I think it's the Jarate Master comic. [[User:Davo|Davo]] 12:24, 26 June 2011 (PDT)
 
:It's definitely a Saxton comic, pause it and look closely as the shot pans across the characters. I don't know if it's Jarate Master on the back or not. However, kinda smarts when you spend half an hour pausing, rechecking, referencing links etc. and then [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] wipes all your work in an instant. I'm CERTAIN it's a comic we haven't seen, even if you disagree on it being Saxton. Check the comics page. My edits were fine, worded to not be 100% declarations of truth, and time-consuming. Unhappyface. I like contributing to the Wiki, rarely get a chance though. Not fun when anything you do is cut. [[User:Polendino|Polendino]] 15:09, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
::Honestly, it doesnt look like Saxton Hale on the cover, if nothing more than the character on the cover is wearing a shirt. [[User:Dr. Blutengott|Dr. Blutengott]] 19:35, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::: Wait, what'd I do to that guy? Anyway, it's for sure the Jarate Master comic on the back cover. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 19:36, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::::I'm sure Hale advertises in other magazines, I just dont think that he would let himself be portrayed with a shirt on or not a main part of the cover. Its definitely the Jarate Master ad though. [[User:Dr. Blutengott|Dr. Blutengott]] 20:01, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
GreenMarine says "I think it's actually an issue of Mann2Man magazine." [http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3413825&pagenumber=172&perpage=40#post392945641] -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 20:07, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:Ah, thank you, that makes much more sense. [[User:Dr. Blutengott|Dr. Blutengott]] 20:12, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
:The magazine is Man Man and has an image of a Red Scout batting a Blue Spy on the cover. [[:Image:Manman.jpg]] --[[User:Katz|Katz]] 18:18, 14 September 2011 (PDT)
 
::All I can identify in the text in the box below is
 
:::THE WORLD'S
 
:::XXXXXXXXXX XXX
 
:::FOR YOU IN A CAN
 
::where X is an unknow letter {{n}} [[User:EpicEric|<span style="color:#5885A2;font-size:15px;font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><b>Epic Eric</b></span>]] <small> ([[User talk:EpicEric|T]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/EpicEric|C]])</small> 18:23, 14 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Concerning the Heavy's Ubercharge in the "Meet the Medic" video. ==
 
 
 
Clearly the medic was using the quick-fix, but he was still able to ubercharge the heavy. Should that be mentioned anywhere? [[User:Loser390|Loser390]] 20:52, 23 June 2011 (PDT)
 
:It's explained on the Uber Update page.[[User:Davo|Davo]] 12:25, 26 June 2011 (PDT)
 
::Is it? I dont see any mention of it. [[User:Dr. Blutengott|Dr. Blutengott]] 19:07, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::: [http://www.teamfortress.com/uberupdate/]. "Invuln function shorted out after its first use" --{{User:Firestorm/sig}} 19:35, 25 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Should the Heavy's disappearance be noted? ==
 
 
 
At 2:27, he's seen going towards the truck, however, the camera goes to the Demoman in the wheelchair and as he falls out of his wheelchair from the rockets, the Heavy is no longer seen anywhere near the truck he was heading towards and as the camera shows the Demoman getting up, he's nowhere on the map at all, he then reappears taking cover behind the truck as the Scout passes by the camera [[User:Masterlegodude|Masterlegodude]] 02:35, 26 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
: Perhaps he lagged, connecting from Russia :) --[[User:Katz|Katz]] 23:35, 14 September 2011 (PDT)
 
: [[Media:Sniper_cloakedspyidentify03.wav|The Heavy is a Spy!]] ==[[User:FaxCelestis|Fax Celestis]] <sub>[[User_talk:FaxCelestis|talk]]</sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/FaxCelestis|contrib]]</small><sup>[http://wiki.faxcelestis.net/ home]</sup> 09:28, 15 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Waiting Room Line ==
 
 
 
The ticket dispenser at the end of the video shows 11, so there is an unseen 10th waiter. But to me it would seem that there are two more unseen waiters. In the video, you can see that the Soldier holds a ticket with 3 on it and I think the Spy holds a ticket with 9 on it (the ticket is rather blurry, so I can't see it exactly). Scout is 1. For the moment, let's presume Sniper is 2, Pyro is 4, Engineer is 5 and Demoman is 6. Then who are numbers 7 and 8? I doubt the Heavy and Medic, since Heavy already has had the operation and I find it very doubtful that the Medic takes a waiting line ticket when he is the one doing the operations. Even if he pulled a ticket for himself, then there is still one number unaccounted for. I might be reading too much into this, but to me, the math is just off. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 09:46, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
:I think you're reading too much into it. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]]  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 09:49, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
::I probably am, aye. Maybe I should spend less time on S(P)UF. Thanks anyway. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 09:55, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
:::I think it's worthy to note. Conspiracy theories are part of the game in dissecting Valve content. [[User:Chronomaster|Chronomaster]] 10:04, 27 June 2011 (PDT)
 
For me, it seemed that the waiting line arrangement is pretty remarkable. Look, Scout is 1, Sniper is 2, Soldier is 3. It is very remarkable because the ''Team Fortress Classic'''s class arrangemnt is like this. Could we take note of this?--[[User:Mardamien24|Mardamien24]] 03:01, 14 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::::It is not mentioned anywhere atm that the Soldier holds this "3"-ticket. I mean you can see it or oversee it...someone could add it somewhere please, mine notes edit was undone because you can see it. No comment about most of the notes.... [[User:TheDoctor|TheDoctor(without a small pic)]] 11:05, 28 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Jumper's Jeepcap ==
 
 
 
You can see one of the BLU soldiers wearing it. I'm going to add it, but if it's a problem, I apolgize. [[User:Applesauz|Applesauz]] 10:32, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
There's also a Frontline Field Recorder. Adding that too. [[User:Applesauz|Applesauz]] 10:40, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
: Just thought I outta give you the reason for this stuff not being allowed on the article; it's too obvious. Well, to an extent That's just the best way to put it. If you can plainly see something with your eyes, and it doesn't require any more thought than that, it isn't trivia or noteworthy. Might wanna give [[Help:Style_guide|this]] a read. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 16:31, 12 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Timeline ==
 
 
 
Meet the Medic is one of the few things we can see are definitively in the "past" as it shows the invention of the Ubercharge.  It seems to also occur after Meet the Sandvich as the Sandvich is half eaten.  Meet the Director shows the Sniper, Heavy, Scout, Soldier being filmed in that order around the same time by the Director (Meet the Medic and Spy don't have to be during this time as they aren't interviews.) The Meet the Medic footage already existed at that point, as well.  So, right now, we're looking at: Sandvich, Medic, Sniper, Heavy, Scout, Soldier.  Engineer and Demo can't really be placed at that time.  Just some thoughts on when the videos might occur. [[User:Webrunner|Webrunner]] 12:51, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
:The refrigerator from Meet the Sanvich =/= the refrigerator from Meet the Medic. Yes, both contain half a sandvich and a bottle of beer. So what? Just because your neighbour's refrigerator has the same contents as yours does not mean that it is suddenly your refrigerator. It is pure speculation, nothing more. Not convinced? In Meet the Sandvich, the floor is wood. In Meet the Medic, it's ER flooring. Meet the Sandvich has 3 bottles next to the sandvich. Meet the Medic only one. It is a reference at best, but I doubt it is more then just model reusing.
 
:Log story short, we can't say anything about Meet the Sandvich. I wished I could comment on the rest, but I wouldn't be able to do that without placing the Engineer Update and the WAR! Update before Meet the Medic, chronologically speaking. But Meet the Director does indeed seem to be placing Meet the Sniper, Heavy, Scout and Soldier in that order. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 13:23, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
Another timeline thing that occurred to me: The video shows the first ever Ubercharge, so it definitely takes place before any of the updates, because the standard (no longer prototype) medigun has been in the game since release. However, one of the BLU soldiers can be seen holding the Equalizer, which he did not get until the WAR!. So we have a minor contradiction. Should this be noted in trivia? [[User:Zoon-li|Zoon-li]] 15:48, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
:And that is what I meant with my previous comment. The Frontier Justice also appears, meaning that both the WAR! Update and the Engineer Update would take place before Meet the Medic. Not trivia worthy, if you ask me, as it can be explained by Valve wanting to make the video a bit prettier. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 15:54, 28 June 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Perhaps a reference to an old trailer ==
 
 
 
Was looking around aimlessly today and I came across [[Trailer 2]]. I watched it, curiously, and noticed that the Heavy mows down many people, or rather many soldiers, just after 0:50. From what I've watched, this is the only other video I have seen with the Heavy killing mass amounts of soldiers. Perhaps I'm looking too far into this (in fact I probably am), but maybe Meet the Medic, specifically just after 3:10 in the video, is a reference to this old trailer? [[User:Atonement|Atonement]] 11:47, 12 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:It is--[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]] {{mod}} 11:58, 12 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::Should it be added somewhere into the page then? [[User:Atonement|Atonement]] 12:00, 12 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:::I don't think it's a reference, they wanted the Heavy to mow down a bunch of enemies, and rather than having a tangle of different classes causing confusion they used several of the same one - the Soldier, being the main generic class. '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|Blether]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|Contreebs]])</small> 16:01, 12 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::::That's a possibility, however, if you watch [[Meet the Heavy]], he kills all types of classes. But I could see why they would put several different classes when they are focusing on the heavy, but only one when the heavy isn't the focus. But then again, in Trailer 2, he's the focus and only kills one type of enemy. [[User:Atonement|Atonement]] 16:45, 12 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::::: For now, no. It's only an assumption. If you contact a Valve employee and they say it was on purpose, however, then heck yes. Neat catch either way. [[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 16:50, 12 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:::::: Alright, thanks for the information! [[User:Atonement|Atonement]] 18:31, 12 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Possible trivia about the various items in the cabinets? ==
 
 
 
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/9317/meetthemedic02.jpg
 
 
 
In the cabinets in the background, there are various items in there, one of them is the Medic's Solemn Vow (seen right next to his arm), and there's also a purse hanging on the wall to the right of his head, should either of these be noted? Also, other than the various bottles in there, what are those other objects? [[User:Masterlegodude|Masterlegodude]] 21:02, 14 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
:{{c|Maybe}} Well, while the other objects in/near the cabinet are not noteworthy, these two seem to be.  I'm not sure about this one; perhaps if we get another yes we can add it. [[File:Killicon_splendid_screen.png|60px]][[User:TheTimesAndQueriesOfMyAss|<span style="color:#B8383B;font-size:14px;font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 2px 2px 0px;"><b>TheTimesAndQueriesOfMyAss</b></span>]] 21:09, 14 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
::If anything though, it should be the Solemn Vow since the location of the Heavy's Minigun and the Medic's Overdose was noted, thanks for the response though [[User:Masterlegodude|Masterlegodude]] 05:08, 15 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== The first line ==
 
 
 
Where is the proof that this is "cyclops"? It sounds a lot more like [http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schweinhund Schweinhund] to me, and it'd make more sense considering the Medic's German background. Thoughts? [[User:SpikeX|SpikeX]] 21:09, 15 July 2011 (PDT)
 
: He's saying cyclops. Demoman has one eye. A lot of people call him cyclops. Scout isn't German. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 21:26, 15 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:: /epicfacepalm --[[User:Shawnchi|Shawnchi]] 18:26, 14 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Worth Mentioning? ==
 
 
 
Is it worth mentioning the humor that the Medic puts his surgery gloves on ''after'' the surgery? [[User:Yaridovich23|Yaridovich23]] 09:47, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
 
: It's right up there with mentioning that he isn't wearing his coat during the surgery. In that it isn't. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 09:49, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::No, it's not worth mentioning. [[User:Balladofwindfishes|Balladofwindfishes]] 09:50, 19 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== The Scout's Heart ==
 
At the very end, as the Scout bursts out of the emergency room saying "You would not believe...how much thus hurts!", listen carefully with a good pair of headphones; The sound of a heart beating very rapidly can be heard. You see, the heart of a small animal beats very rapidly even when the animal is in a resting state. So could this mean that the Scout got the Loch Ness Hamster heart, or the smaller unlabeled one? Oh, and as soon as Archimedes the Dove coos inside his chest, the sound of his heart stops. I thought it was neat enough to mention. [[User:Cronie|Cronie]] 02:05, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:What heart the Scout has is speculation. That his heart stops when Archimedes coos is observational. Both aren't trivia according to the Style Guide and thus will be removed when added. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 03:26, 26 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Heart size to Health of each class ==
 
 
 
I think that the size of each class's heart vary to the health of each class. The Heavy's heart is the largest and his health is the largest (300). Should this be noted or not --[[User:Mardamien24|Mardamien24]] 19:46, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:{{c|Oppose}} Speculation. We don't know whose heart is biggeer. The heart used in MtM as a replacement heart was merely a way of showing how powerful the Uber device is. [[File:User Wingless Winged Signature.png|150px|link=User:Wingless]] 20:03, 29 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Engineer Song in Waiting Room ==
 
 
 
At the end of Meet the Medic in the waiting room, the engineer is strumming what sounds to me like an extract of a Little Heart to Heart
 
Could someone take a look and confirm it?
 
Ryokyon
 
:I listened to it and I agree. It sounds like a lower tempo version of part of A Little Heart To Heart. Nice spotting! [[User:TheKieranator|TheKieranator]] 09:08, 4 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Setting Outside ==
 
 
 
It's hard to tell from the first few seconds, but I'm pretty sure in the second half, we're looking at a modified version of Viaduct. [[User:Kazzymodus|Kazzymodus]] 08:44, 2 August 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== 1080p and mistakes ==
 
 
 
This isn't mentioned anywhere, but the version downloaded [steam://run/80923 through Steam] is not in fact 1280x720 (as described by it's own button and as is the maximum on the one uploaded to YouTube), but 1920x1080.
 
Also in it I noticed a second mistake I had not seen in the 720p version. Not only is the Heavy wearing an old decal in the team pose picture, but so is the Demoman.--[[User:Katz|Katz]] 17:48, 14 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Bird-like spot on door ==
 
 
 
Well, just something small I was watching Meet the Medic today [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36lSzUMBJnc] and noticed that, at 2:17, the spot at the left kinda looks like a sitting dove. Probably reading too much into it, but I thought it was cool. --  [[User:Jokerine|Jokerine]] 13:20, 24 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:Yeah... it's just a scratch. I kinda see what you mean though - how do you notice stuff like that? '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 13:13, 24 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:: Hah, I dunno, I'm probably just crazy. --  [[User:Jokerine|Jokerine]] 13:20, 24 September 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
I was watching this, and I noticed at the end that the tune that the engineer is playing on his guitar the soundtrack "MEDIC!"specifically the part from 0:24 to 0:28, was I mishearing it, or can someone confirm it? --[[User:Samuel039|Samuel039]] 04:42, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Homing rockets? ==
 
 
 
At least half of the rockets in the video travel in arcs, similarly to those fired by "the matador" in Mechatheslag's advanced weaponizer. Could this be a hint from Valve, or just cinematic effects? [[User:Steinar777|Steinar777]] 09:57, 22 November 2011 (PST)
 

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