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== Why'd he do that? ==
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== [[Mediawiki:Sitenotice]] ==
  
I was actually wondering why that guy removed so much from the [[Hottie's Hoodie]] page. Right as I was about to re-add it, you fixed it. Just figured I'd letcha know that that didn't go unnoticed. :) [[User:ShadowGlove|ShadowGlove]] 12:29, 6 July 2011 (PDT)
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Could you change the link that reads <nowiki>[http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications MediaWiki Echo notification system] to [[w:mw:Help:Notifications|MediaWiki Echo notification system]]</nowiki>? It would remove the external link icon. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[Image:Item icon K-9 Mane.png|21px|link=User_talk:Darkid|Talk]]|[[Image:Item icon Dr. Grordbort's Copper Crest.png|21px|link=Special:Contributions/Darkid|Contribs]]) 23:19, 17 December 2013 (PST)
:Good to know :) '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 12:30, 6 July 2011 (PDT)
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:Done. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 05:11, 18 December 2013 (PST)
  
== RE: What we spoke about in IRC awhile ago. ==
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== Dictionary ==
  
You asked me to let a moderator know if this nonsense happened again, and it happened again. [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Team_Fortress_2_Alpha&oldid=611663 This] and [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Team_Fortress_2_Alpha&oldid=611664 this] done by [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=User:Sven2&action=edit&redlink=1 Sven2]. I had hopped onto the Wiki earlier today and checked out my watchlist to find those 2 bits of vandalism. I also noticed the message "AGNMI 4 LYFE!!!", so I googled "AGNMI" and found [http://steamcommunity.com/groups/AirExchange this group]. Guess who's an admin in the group? [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=User:Sven You guessed it.]. I also found the AGNMI forums and noticed a section of the forum dedicated to [http://agnmi.roflforum.net/f5-half-life-2-leak discussing the HL2 leak], which is what Sven mentioned a few times in his rants on [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Team_Fortress_2_Alpha the TF2 Alpha article's talk page].
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Sorry for my mistake, I thought that the dictionary need to edit directly. I have not yet fully understood with redirections. [[User:Max 324|Max 324]] ([[User talk:Max 324|talk]]) 21:54, 18 December 2013 (PST)
  
Pilk's taken care of Sven2, and I did message him in the IRC earlier today and pointed out the above bit of information, and mentioned to him that you and I had spoken awhile ago about any more of these issues happening. [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 18:42, 6 July 2011 (PDT)
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== Featured Cosmetic ==
:Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I will deal with the matter. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 19:07, 6 July 2011 (PDT)
 
::Believe me, so will I. As a footnote, I'd like to add that I don't appreciate being insulted and having my words reduced to that of a rant.[[User:Sven|Sven]] 23:25, 6 July 2011 (PDT)
 
  
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All done - [[Template:Featured cosmetic]] '''» [[User:Cooper Kid|<span style="color:red">Coo</span><span style ="color:gray">per</span><span style ="color:blue"> Kid</span>]]''' <small>([[User_talk:Cooper Kid|blether]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Cooper Kid|contreebs]])</small> 10:15, 2 January 2014 (PST)
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:Good stuff. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 16:18, 2 January 2014 (PST)
  
== You insult my Ass, sir? ==
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== Using automate.py ==
Do you even know the things that my Ass has done?  I must declare that he is the most noble Ass in all of Europe!  It has helped write laws, it has put out fires, it has saved puppies and small children from trees, and many more acts of Gentlemannly nature!  And yet, you insult my Ass' stories by saying it is "amusing".  You are lucky that my Ass is a Gentlemann, because if it was MY choice, I would throw you in the brig for life for insulting my Ass!  Good day, sir! [[File:Killicon_splendid_screen.png]][[User:TheTimesAndQueriesOfMyAss|<span style="color:#B8383B;font-size:16px;font-family: 'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 2px 2px 0px;"><b>TheTimesAndQueriesOfMyAss</b></span>]] 18:20, 7 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:Sir, I did not intend to tarnish the good name of your ass. Merely I was pointing out an observation. Good day. (Also please use show preview) '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 18:26, 7 July 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== We got some counter-productive page labellin' goin' on here! ==
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When I run automate.py, a few questionable things happen:
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* It asks me to overwrite regardless of the inputted name
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* It closes HLMV at the beginning of execution
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* It throws an error: "No such file or directory: targetimages\\openhlmv.png"
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[[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 07:30, 24 January 2014 (PST)
  
All them TFC Deathmatch map pages have been sittin' around, doin' just fine. Then, just like what happened with my article for Team Fortress 2 Alpha, we got people makin' a fuss over the map articles! [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/SiPlus Take a look here, boss!]. [[User:K-Mac|K-Mac]] has already reverted his labelling once, and I've just reverted it again. It's purely counter-productive, and SiPlus' reasons for labelling them for deletion are:
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:It only asks you to overwrite if the destination directory for the images already exists. It closes HLMV at the beginning because it needs to set the rotation for the first screenshot, this is normal. And now I've just realized you should be using automatebeta.py which doesn't use target images anymore. I need to get round to cleaning up the files for this. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 08:38, 24 January 2014 (PST)
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::Should I hold off until you fix up automatebeta? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 08:39, 24 January 2014 (PST)
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:::No, you can use it now. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 08:40, 24 January 2014 (PST)
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::::I get a WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified:<br>
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<code>Traceback (most recent call last):
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  File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\3D-Models-automaton-master\automatebeta.py", line 471, in <module>
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    wikiPassword = 'Nope.avi'
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  File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\3D-Models-automaton-master\automatebeta.py", line 275, in automateDis
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    openHLMV(pathToHlmv)
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  File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\3D-Models-automaton-master\automatebeta.py", line 29, in openHLMV
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    subprocess.Popen([pathToHlmv + os.sep + 'hlmv.exe'], stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.PIPE)
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  File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\Python26clean - Copy\lib\subprocess.py", line 633, in __init__
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    errread, errwrite)
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  File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\Python26clean - Copy\lib\subprocess.py", line 842, in _execute_child
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    startupinfo)
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WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified</code>
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Ideas? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 14:21, 24 January 2014 (PST)
  
*''"The maps were in pre-Steam version because TFC was a mod, and they could be loaded from console, but not from create server menu."''
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It can't find hlmv.exe. Are you sure you've got the right path to it? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:46, 24 January 2014 (PST)
**Ok, so that means they were in TFC.
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:r'F:\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin' [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 14:49, 24 January 2014 (PST)
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::That's the path to my Steam folder but likely not yours. Change that to your own. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:58, 24 January 2014 (PST)
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:::Well I'm not a windows native, but I know HLMV is in Team Fortress 2/bin/HLMV.exe [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 15:00, 24 January 2014 (PST)
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::::Yes, but is your Steam folder in the root of the F drive? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 08:32, 25 January 2014 (PST)
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:::::Err maybe? Probably not. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 08:33, 25 January 2014 (PST)
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::::::It's most likely not :p Find your path. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 08:58, 25 January 2014 (PST)
  
*''"These maps are not custom maps, they are stupid hacks."''
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== Buggy 3d images ==
**And now he's just lost all credibility with this comment.
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[[:File:User_Darkid_Test_3D.jpg]]. I'm not quite sure what's going wrong. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 11:49, 15 February 2014 (PST)
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:All fixed. Is gud. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 16:43, 15 February 2014 (PST)
  
Please feel free to give SiPlus a small "vacation", or whatever you feel to be necessary in this situation. [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 06:51, 13 July 2011 (PDT)
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== 3D images with VMTs ==
  
== Hi ==
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I'm having trouble with the blue festive ambassador. Although I've defined the BlueVMT parameter, the code doesn't use it, and also doesn't crop the "blue" output. Ideas? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 12:51, 17 February 2014 (PST)
HAY<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Qambrose|Qambrose]]''' ([[User talk:Qambrose|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Qambrose|contribs]]) </small>
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:So you have <code>teamColours = True</code> and <code>BLUVMTFile = 'path\to\blue\vmt'</code>? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 12:59, 17 February 2014 (PST)
:Hi. How can I help? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 20:12, 21 July 2011 (PDT)
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::Yes. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 17:45, 17 February 2014 (PST)
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:::Can you try copying the contents of the blu vmt file into the red file and seeing what happens when you refresh in hlmv? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 17:49, 17 February 2014 (PST)
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::::Sure, but I should note that I can change skins just fine within HLMV.
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::::Also, aside from coloration, are there any issues with the file itself?
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::::It has no effect--since I'm not editing the actual .vmt files. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 20:47, 17 February 2014 (PST)
  
== u so ghey ==
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== 3D images with custom models ==
  
u so ghey you derp <small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Qambrose|Qambrose]]''' ([[User talk:Qambrose|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Qambrose|contribs]]) 20:13, 21 July 2011 (PDT)</small>
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I'm still having trouble zooming out--any ideas? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 18:09, 20 February 2014 (PST)
  
:Your rude. [[User:Violencejr123|<span style="font-size:13px;line-height:16px;font-family:TF2 Build;sans-serif;" class="qua_unusual">Violencejr123</span>]]<small>([[User_talk:Violencejr123|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Violencejr123|contribs]])</small> 20:13, 21 July 2011 (PDT)
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== 3D images ==
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Could you help me? I'm trying to make a 3D image to the wiki, but do not know how. I made the image in all positions and now i want to add to the wiki. How to combine them to create 3D? [[User:Max 324|Max 324]] ([[User talk:Max 324|talk]]) 21:59, 22 February 2014 (PST)
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:You need to be using the appropriate python script, which stiches at the end. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 22:00, 22 February 2014 (PST)
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:: Hm... What should I do with this script? [[User:Max 324|Max 324]] ([[User talk:Max 324|talk]]) 00:24, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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:::Run it with python. See the 'documentation' [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:3D_Models#Workflow|here]]. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 12:06, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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:::: Thanks for help, but I think I use another method. I will try to ask on the page about 3d models. [[User:Max 324|Max 324]] ([[User talk:Max 324|talk]]) 19:51, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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::::: What is the method you used? Because the 3D models are set up in a very specific way, that would be near impossible to do without the script. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 19:59, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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:::::: In TFMV I set the specific starting position and each time changed the position of the camera (it changes every 15 degrees). Example [http://www.mediafire.com/download/ha9rdw813snr1iw/Golden_pan_3D.zip here] [[User:Max 324|Max 324]] ([[User talk:Max 324|talk]]) 19:42, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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::::::: You must have a lot of patience then. But it would be a lot better for you to use the scripts. Your images don't have transparency, which makes batch cropping and stitching very difficult. If you look at an [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/c/cf/Ambassador_3D.jpg example finished image] you can see what the final 3d image looks like when done properly. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 20:06, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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:::::::: No transparency because it was not finished yet. And my workpiece can be united as your example? [[User:Max 324|Max 324]] ([[User talk:Max 324|talk]]) 20:13, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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:::::::::Yes you can, but the script works by using two copies of every image, one with a black background and one with a white background. But again, the whole process is much much much easier if you use the script to generate the images. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 20:30, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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:::::::::: And the last question:how to adjust the display position 3d image on the wiki? I saw that the parameter Maps different in different images [[User:Max 324|Max 324]] ([[User talk:Max 324|talk]]) 19:29, 25 February 2014 (PST)
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::::::::::: The script outputs the map into a text file once the stitching is done. [[File:User Zabidenu sig.png|link=User:Zabidenu]] <small>([[Special:Contribs/Zabidenu|contribs]] ▪ [[User talk:Zabidenu|talk]])</small> 19:31, 25 February 2014 (PST)
  
== Detonator ==
 
  
Hello, I'm sorry to bother you, but I need an Admin's attention. The user [[MEDUNN]] has repeatedly added a trivia fact to the [[Detonator]] page.  The trivia fact is about it's similiarity to the name given to the Demoman class in the bootleg game [[Gang Garrison 2]], which is not proven to be related, and as I understand it, that means it is not trivia. Yet they continue to put it in, udoing my undo to remove it. I do not feel they are related by anything more than coincidence, and as such, is not trivia, as I have seen nothing to prove that the weapon was named after the class in Gang Garrison 2. If there is, I will back off and let it be added, but again, I haven't seen it, and as such don't feel it is trivia.
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== Need help with 3D images ==
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Hey, I'm trying to learn how to take images for 3D image. But I'm having trouble with setting up automatebeta.py. Can you give me an example of this? Thanks. [[User:Lf400212|Lf400212]] ([[User talk:Lf400212|talk]]) 06:35, 25 March 2014 (PDT)
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:The process is rather long so it'd be easier if you told me which step you were stuck on. The default file contains some example settings that should guide you. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 15:23, 26 March 2014 (PDT)
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::On a related note, the majority of the 3d images left need recompiling. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 15:27, 26 March 2014 (PDT)
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:::I've downloaded strongly recommended one from requirements section. and now I'm trying to find out where "automatebeta.py" is, but it isn't going well.. should i open up Notepad and make a new one? plus, i don't know how to do it :/ [[User:Lf400212|Lf400212]] ([[User talk:Lf400212|talk]]) 06:29, 27 March 2014 (PDT)
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::::It's in 3D_Models-automation-master. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User_talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 06:45, 27 March 2014 (PDT)
  
I hope I that I'm not being to hasty about this, but I rather go this route than make more enemies than I have to. 
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== Love and War update ==
  
Thank you for your time.
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You created skeleton pages for a lot of the new items in the Love and War update. Thanks for doing this, although you seem to have set the patch date on those pages to June 19. The update was released on June 18. Since there was a patch today too, it's important those dates are changed on all the new item pages so people don't get confused between the two patches. --'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 18:03, 19 June 2014 (PDT)
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:Yep, sorry about that. Issue with my script datetime that I will have resolved for next time. I've been trying to fix them by running through the pages with AWB, which should be simple in theory, but I all my edits are timing out due to the wiki load issues. I'll fix any stragglers when I can. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 18:11, 19 June 2014 (PDT)
  
[[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 18:54, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
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== Error uploading audio files ==
:I'll speak to him about it but in the future you should take these sort of disagreements to the article talk page instead of undoing one anothers edits. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 19:18, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
 
  
::I just left MEDUNN a message, stating that articles such as [[Bazaar Bargain]] don't have trivia about how "the model was used in Advanced Weaponiser for The Walkabout". The main reason, I believe, why we don't have trivia like this is because all that trivia already exists on the [[Advanced Weaponiser]] page, and it doesn't really belong on the actual weapons' article. '''Speaking of SourceMod plugins, Mousse, would you care to voice your opinion on [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Discussion#Notability_Guidelines_and_SourceMod_Plugin_Articles|this discussion I started last night]]? [[User:404 User Not Found|404 User Not Found]] 19:23, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
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For some reason, I'm still unable to upload certain files.
  
:::Thank you both, I hope I didn't cause to much trouble, but I thought this was over my head.  [[User:DJNerd|DJNerd]] 19:44, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
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If you recall [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User_talk:Moussekateer/archive5#Upload_warnings:_size_too_large my last post] from Halloween, I was unable to upload
  
== RAMPAGE ==
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Sf13_mannbros_argue21.wav because it was too large (2.18MB) and Sf13_blutarch_win06.wav because of the MIME error.
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:09, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
 
:HELL YEA I AINT MESSIN WIT NO CHUMP BITS, IMMA MEGABYTE YOU. (But also [[July 22, 2011 Patch|in vain]] :( ) '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 19:12, 22 July 2011 (PDT)
 
 
 
== How am I doing? ==
 
 
 
I figured I'd ask you, since you're an admin or something. How does it look like I'm doing with editing the Wiki and stuff? Am I being useful? [[User:ShadowGlove|ShadowGlove]] 19:08, 1 August 2011 (PDT)
 
:Yessum, keep up the good work sir :) It's much appreciated. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 19:20, 1 August 2011 (PDT)
 
::Cool. Thanks. :)
 
 
 
== Unique Original ==
 
 
 
Just wanted to let you know that I was mistaken. I found a player equipped with a Unique Original and checked their backpack, where no Original was to be found. Turns out it was a server mod. Sorry about the mix-up.
 
[[User:Link901|Link901]] 18:04, 5 August 2011 (PDT)
 
:No problem, that's what I thought happened. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 18:05, 5 August 2011 (PDT)
 
  
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This time around, I'm getting the same problem for Scout_taunt_nun_81.wav and Spy_taunt_dosi_end_11.wav due to
  
== Article Revision Archives ==
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<code>Cannot upload due to Files of the MIME type "application/x-php" are not allowed to be uploaded.</code>
  
Hey, how far back does The Official Team Fortress Wiki archive past article revisions? Like the past edits on my user page?
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I still encounter the error even after a fresh re-extraction of the files through GCFScape. They play fine on my end.
  
[[User:2560x1600at120hz|2560x1600at120hz]] 12:54, 25 August 2011 (PDT)2560x1600at120hz
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There's also a strange audio file called mtt_medic_punchnslaps.wav which is 2.19MB and the uploader still won't accept it because it is larger than 2.00MB.
:We don't delete any revisions of pages so every revision since the page creation will always be there. (deleting revisions would be tricky and messy even if we wanted to) '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 12:57, 25 August 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Item drop reset ==
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[[File:User_Upgrade_Signature.png|link=User:Upgrade]] 21:15, 20 June 2014 (PDT)
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:Unfortunately we don't have the ability to change the max file upload size ourselves. As for your other issue, I'm not sure why the server would be detecting the filetype incorrectly. It may be that the file was generated incorrectly and MW's guess at what filetype it is is tripping up for some reason. I'll have a try myself. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 05:22, 21 June 2014 (PDT)
  
Since not even the edit is getting me a proper reply, [[Talk:Item_drop_system#Reset_time|I am going to take it here]]. Time and time again, I notice that the item drop resets at 4/5 pm, not near midnight. I am GMT +1/2. I have seen reports before that the item drop reset is not the same for everyone. I would love to actually link some threads, but the search function on SUF is being a complete and total ''<unhelpful function>''. I admit, it was pretty stupid from me for removing the entire line instead of the just the midnight thing, but I would still like to see it gone, because it is erroneous. Or would you prefer I e-mail Robin first and hope that I get a reply on this? -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 13:58, 25 August 2011 (PDT)
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::It seems like every Halloween there's trouble uploading audio files. On time of getting error messages regarding the MIME type not being accepted, now I'm getting "413 Request Entity Too Large". It seems like I can't upload anything larger than 1MB whereas last year it was 2MB.
:Well this is an interesting one, because from what I have observed is that the drop cap resets for everyone at the same time. This made sense to me because I don't think Valve has separate item servers seeing as latency doesn't matter for backpack related stuff. But back to the point, I have confirmed it with American users and far east users and it seems to be the same time for us all. I have heard of a few players saying they start receiving drops at a later time but I put this down to bad connections or a flakey item server. I myself sometimes don't receive items for several hours on my idle accounts when the cap has reset. A reply from Robin would be brilliant to clear this up. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:08, 25 August 2011 (PDT)
 
::I shall send him an e-mail then, let us hope that he replies. I too would have thought none of it if I had suffered of this only once, but it has been consistent for me for months already, including the (relatively) recent double drop week, so that's why I am questioning it. Ah well, let us waste no more words on this. To the e-mail machine, ol' chap! ... Sorry, I won't do that again. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 14:15, 25 August 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Listing price of hats on their respective pages ==
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::I'm not sure what to do and a quarter of the lines on [[Halloween Boss voice responses]] page are in red. [[File:User_Upgrade_Signature.png|link=User:Upgrade]] 11:28, 2 November 2014 (PST)
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:::I'll look into it, but we haven't lowered the size limits at all so I'm not sure what's going on. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 18:15, 2 November 2014 (PST)
  
Hello, I am a new joiner to this wiki and I wanted to suggest adding a feature to the pages of all the hats. A pricing feature. Online, there are many pages that can be found where a collection of market prices on hats and miscellaneous items can be found. This could be a valuable feature to those playing on trade servers in Team Fortress 2. I would have implemented this myself, but I wanted to ask an administrator before a change like this is put into place. I hope you will consider my proposal. My name is Celestial Tactician. [[User:Celestial Tactician|Celestial Tactician]] 13:58, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
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== TF2 Character with a transparent background ? ==
:Hey there. Welcome to the wiki :) your idea has suggested a few times before but the reason we don't implement this is because hat values are subjective and the wiki is here to document facts. Not to mention that if we were to include this information it would be easily abusable, as we could effectively set the value of hats and 'game' the trading market. Hope that helps. Also in future please make use of the show preview button as I get an email for every edit you do to my talk page :-( '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>'''
 
:: Hello again, I don't mean to offensive in any way at all, but the fact that anyone can edit your pages means that the "facts" cannot be 100% validated anyway. Is it possible to arrange strict monitoring of these prices to ensure that no one changes the prices for their own purposes? After all, the prices of tf2 items, similarly to stocks, is based off of mass opinions and rumors such as how many people have sentimental value to the item or like the look of it. Not on hard facts. [[User:Celestial Tactician|Celestial Tactician]] 14:16, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:::While in the short term the wiki may have incorrect information, over the long term the fallacies will be removed by the community. Incorrect information is usually removed pretty quickly. I understand that items have perceived value in the trading community, that's all they are, perceived values. One mans trash is another's treasure. The wiki is not here to document trading values, other sites cover that pretty well. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:52, 3 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Paint Theme Ressurection ==
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'''Greetings''', mate.<br />
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I saw what you did about drawing, etc.<br />
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I'm wondering if you could help me.<br />
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I have a screenshot of my Soldier [http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/580152700543074610/419B9E1FE43DAC531228A8D90DA8EB3622114168/ here].<br />
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I would like to have him with a transparent background.<br />
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Like your Engineer on your User page, you see ?<br />
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I don't know what should I use to do that.<br />
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Can you help me, please ? <span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#1E90FF"><big>Scher2o</big></span> [[File:Killicon rocket launcher.png|50px|link=User:Scher2o]] 05:47, 3 July 2014 (PDT)
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:You're going to need to follow the guide at [[Team Fortress Wiki:3D Models]] to create a 3D model. A screenshot won't do unfortunately, you'll need a bit of experience with HLMV and running scripts. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 16:47, 4 July 2014 (PDT)
  
Well, I was thinking about my very first wiki idea. I do really want to make a page for every single paint. This is useful and comfortable. I meet people everyday, who find\uncrate paints and want to color something.
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== some recompiling resources ==
  
But they can't just open a page for paint to see all hats available. They should open Class, find a hat they have, and a color. And then move to the next class. This is really uncomfortable + great downloading traffic. I won't ask any help and do everything by myself. Just accept my idea, and I will begin.
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Hey there Mousse.
  
(My old, unfinished page: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Dark_Salmon_Injustice&action=historysubmit&diff=362725&oldid=249546)
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I have a page [[User:Lexar/3d Model Viewer Tools|here]] which has some small but useful information for the 3D model viewer recompile process.
  
[[User:GordonFrohman|GordonFrohman]] 09:35, 5 September 2011 (PDT)
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Just want to run it by you and check if this information could be helpful in any way.
:How about pages like [[List_of_paintable_items_(Scout)|these]]. I don't really see the use in a page of all one hundred or so hats in one colour on one page. I don't think that it is that useful, people paint their favourite hats not the ones that look best in a certain colour. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 09:42, 5 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
::That's what I said - there are so many hats and so many paints, that people paint ALL hats. I've already described a situation. If I have at least 1 hat per class I should watch through 900 color and hats combinations, searching for items that I already have! I am more experienced now and can make hidden boxes. User will just open a paint and a class. Find a hat in color that I have VS watching through gigantic list. This is my point. On the Scout page I have to look through 578 hats (34 paint variants x 17 hats with styles) to look at 1 colored hat. This tablet is useful, when I have tons of paints and 1 hat, but this situation is rare. [[User:GordonFrohman|GordonFrohman]] 09:54, 5 September 2011 (PDT)
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some examples of this in work are:
:::I would still disagree about the usefulness of such pages, another 27 pages relating to paint are overkill. But my opinion is not the last word, feel free to start a discussion about it [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion|here]]. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 11:22, 5 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Poot ==
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[https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32668357/wiki_stuff/3d_models/equalizer/equalizer_centering.vpk Equalizer]
  
[[User:WindPower/PrettierDiff.py|Pootis]] (poke meh before usage, gotta moov some JS gear before big moov) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:45, 6 September 2011 (PDT)
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[https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32668357/wiki_stuff/3d_models/minigun/minigun_centering.vpk Minigun]
:You can lookadem in action [[portal:Template:PatchDiff/August 30, 2011 Patch|over here, sawbones]] (Ctrl+F5 etc). This has broken all /diff pages, now diffs are in template-space. This is both so that they're not indexed by Google (on pwiki at least), people don't attempt to translate them (which was the case for mainspace /diff pages, requiring that note at the top sayin not to translate them), and it just makes sense considering that all the actual file-specific diffs are in templatespace as well.
 
:You can play with script now but only on pwiki. Be careful because the script directly edits the wiki, no questions asked, so don't inpoot garbage. If you just run the script it'll ask you to fill in stuff interactively, otherwise you can use it in your scripts as an import and call PrettierDiff.poot() and it should do all the rest~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:48, 6 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== [[Trading]] image ==
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Thanks
  
Wat? It's not a trading image. It's gifting, it's clearly gifting in the store. Just because it's more interesting overrules the fact that it has nothing to do with the article? That, and it's formatted terribly. I'm gonna put the article back up for cleanup, since it has a lot of grammar and structure issues, but I won't change the image. You should, though. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:29, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
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'''<span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:italic;">[[File:RED Überneedle.png|42px|link=User:Lexar]] - <span style="text-decoration:underline">[[User:Lexar|Lexar]]</span> - <span style="text-decoration:underline">[[User talk:Lexar|talk]]</span></span>''' 06:42, 21 July 2014 (PDT)
:I don't think it has to represent gifting, it could be construed as a trade in progress. And it still is a better image than the wrapped parcel. But yes, the article does need some clean up. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 13:38, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:: But the wrapped parcel is the actual trade icon from the menu. You can't trade items you purchase, the Spy isn't giving anything, it's clearly a gifting. --[[User:SilverHammer|SilverHammer]] 13:48, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
 
::: It's 'Steam trading.png' because that's the original filename from wherever it came from. And this image doesn't exclusively look like gifting either, and in place of the parcel it's a better choice since the parcel is just boring. [[user:seb26|<small style="background:#f9f9f9;border:1px solid #0070FF;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;-webkit-box-shadow:2px 1px 1px #8BBEFF;">'''seb26'''</small>]] 13:54, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Your Signature ==
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:Looks good to me. It should be very helpful doing those pesky and tedious recompiles. Thanks for making this, stick it on the page pls. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 19:44, 21 July 2014 (PDT)
  
...is broken. The Talk link doesn't go anywhere (and in fact is not even a link!). ==[[User:FaxCelestis|Fax Celestis]] <sub>[[User_talk:FaxCelestis|talk]]</sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/FaxCelestis|contrib]]</small><sup>[http://wiki.faxcelestis.net/ home]</sup> 15:33, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
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== New version of wikitools ==
:It looks fine to me? Can you click the talk link [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Talk:Idling&diff=prev&oldid=716032 here]? Just in case, you know it won't click here because this is the page it's linking to right? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 15:42, 7 September 2011 (PDT)
 
::Facepalms abound! Never mind, I am a fail. PS, thanks for the [[Engineer Update (teaser)]] help. I realized like two seconds after I hit "save" that I could've checked the language tag to figure out what language that translation was in. Looks like you got to the delete on the unnecessary page before I could report it. Thanks. ==[[User:FaxCelestis|Fax Celestis]] <sub>[[User_talk:FaxCelestis|talk]]</sub><small>[[Special:Contributions/FaxCelestis|contrib]]</small><sup>[http://wiki.faxcelestis.net/ home]</sup> 13:17, 8 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Just a minor question ==
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[https://github.com/alexz-enwp/wikitools/tree/master/wikitools].<br>
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Also, how's the display template coming along? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 20:46, 22 July 2014 (PDT)
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:Did this version of wikitools sort out your upload issues? As for the template, I will push it out soon after I make a few changes. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 08:25, 24 July 2014 (PDT)
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::It doesn't directly have a wikiUpload.py, so I wasn't sure how to integrate it with your code (I don't understand python imports). [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 15:41, 30 July 2014 (PDT)
  
I was translating the [[Rogue's Col Roule]] into Dutch earlier today, and like so often, I ran into this bit in the update history, concerning the item schema: "Accessed July 12, 2011." I have encountered them before and I usually keep them out of translations, but I have gotten rather curious as to the exact function of these little tidbits. Are they merely there for administrative purposes, or do they bring an actual value to the reader? Because if this is of actual value to the reader (a value that I do not see at the moment), it means I'll have to go back and add these to the other translated articles, but if they are merely for administrative purposes for the Wiki editors, I see no real reason to add them to translations if they are on the English page anyway. Any clarification on this matter is much appreciated.<br>
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== New languages translations. ==
On an unrelated note, I never got a reply from Robin on that item drop reset thing we discussed a while back, so I can't give anything new related to that. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 06:40, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:It's just something you add when citing an external source to say that this was the content when accessed, in case it changes at a later time. Although I don't think this is needed for the schema tracker as the schema changes can't change retroactively. Leave them out if you wish. Heh, never hold your breath for a reply from the wise one. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 07:44, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
 
::Alright, thanks for clearing that up. Quite a relief, I was almost afraid I had to go back and search through 100+ pages to see which pages were lacking that tidbit. -- <span style="font-family:TF2 Build;font-size:90%;">[[File:Killicon train.png|40px|link=User:Hefaistus]] [[User:Hefaistus|<font color="#FF9933">Hefaistus</font>]]</span> - [[User talk:Hefaistus|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]] 07:56, 11 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Archimedes? ==
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Hi,I'm Greek Spy.I'm a user in the wiki and I have also helped with some stud articles but I would like to ask a question....Is the tf2 wiki gonna have any new languages added to it.I have seen that many languages are been supported right now by the wiki and I wonder if I could help in the translation of the articles in Greek.Many gamers here in greece play tf2 but don't use the wiki due ti being in a different language they dont really know.So this also the opportunity for other Greek Tf2 wiki users to help in expanding the wiki.I hope you take that in mind and give me an answer.
  
''"-Proffesionals Have Standards"'' -Sniper, i have to thank ya fer tha vote :D [[File:Stunned.png|45px]] [[User:Ravecrib9t4|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#990099 ">The Noble Scout</span>]] <sub><sub>([[User talk:Ravecrib9t4|T]]/[[Special:Contributions/Ravecrib9t4|C]])</sub></sub>  00:47, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
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Thank you,Greek Spy. [[User:GreekSpy|GreekSpy]] ([[User talk:GreekSpy|talk]]) 13:31, 9 August 2014 (PDT)
:Enjoy ze sparkles :) '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 08:15, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
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: <small>talk page stalker</small> Heyo, WindPower already gave an answer to a question similar to this before. The wiki only adds languages if it is supported by Valve for TF2. So if you can gather enough greek players and convince valve to add greek language support to TF2, then we can add it here. But until then, we can't really add new languages :( [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 13:43, 9 August 2014 (PDT)
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::<small>(talk page stalker)</small> Addendum: We support arabic and danish despite them having no official support. If you can get 10+ editors who are all willing to make consistent translations, then the wiki can support the language. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 14:01, 9 August 2014 (PDT)
  
== Can i add an edit to the "Director's Vision" taunt page? ==
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== wikifi license ==
  
It just doesn't seem right in 1 area... MarbalTm4 13:02, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
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Hai :o
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Your [https://github.com/Moussekateer/Wiki-Fi wikifi] does not contain any license.md file, neither the files any similar header - under what license do you published the code? so i know, how/if i could fork/edit it slighly for my use :3<br /><small style="background:#f6f6f6;border:1px solid #006666;padding:0em 0.5em;color:#000;-webkit-box-shadow:2px 1px 1px #006666;">[[User:Monte|<font color="green">Monte</font>]] <strong>/</strong> [[User talk:Monte|<font color="maroon">talk</font>]]</small> 06:15, 15 August 2014 (PDT)
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:Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I've licensed it under the GPLv3 license now, so go nuts. Hope that helps. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 07:20, 15 August 2014 (PDT)
  
Oh, and sorry if this messes up anything on your talk page. I just wanted to ask you a question if i could add an edit.
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== {{tl|Mw-langlink}} ==
  
:You don't need to ask anyone's permission to make an edit, go ahead. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 13:05, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
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I've got a better version [[User:Darkid/Sandbox|here]] which should simplify matters. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 13:49, 27 September 2014 (PDT)
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Edit: [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Special:ComparePages?page1=Template%3AMw-langlink&rev1=&page2=User%3ADarkid%2FSandbox&rev2=&action=&diffonly=&unhide= dis].
  
== How do you get an item checklist? ==
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== Receivable from crafting in infobox ==
  
I recently saw yours, and i really wanna know how to get my own. [[User:MarbalTm4|MarbalTm4]] 13:43, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
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Hey Moussekateer, I've got a question. Would it be possible for you/a bot to add whether or not an item is craftable to the infobox (similar to the equip region script you've got)? As far as I'm aware, the craft_class line in the schema (which is in the no_craft prefab for a lot of items that have it, if you get your info from that part of the schema) determines whether or not an item can be received from crafting or not. If it just has "" or doesn't have the line at all, then it can't be crafted. On the other hand, if it has "hat", then it can potentially be received from any recipes that would give you a cosmetic.
  
Oh, and sorry about that change of your signature, on the last page, it is just that the wiki on my browser always appears with the page source for a split second, and then it dissapears.
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The only other things I can see in there are supply_crate, tool, weapon, craft_bar, and craft_token. Tools and crates can't be crafted, so there are no issues with those. craft_bar and craft_token are used for the metals and for the tokens, so they (mostly) wouldn't be an issue as most of them only come from their respective recipes. The problem item with it would be the Haunted Scrap Metal, as that's marked as being a craft_bar, even though it can only be received from an achievement. The odd one is weapon, seeing as it includes all of the stock weapons (and assumedly their Botkiller/Festive/Australium reskins), along with the Ap-Sap, which can't be crafted due to not having a matching token I believe. There'd have to be exceptions for those obviously, but hopefully that wouldn't be too hard.
:Please be careful when editing pages. I'm not sure what your browser is doing but I would look into it. For your own checklist read the instructions at [[User:WindBOT/Item checklists]]. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:16, 12 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== TF2 Notifications ==
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The only issue with this is what the infobox currently says for the craftable parameter. Either there would need to be a new parameter added to cover this, or the existing "craftable" parameter would need to be changed so that it says the item can be received from crafting, rather than being usable in crafting. I think the second option could be better for this, seeing as the existing parameter is pretty rarely used in the first place.
  
as Notifo is going down soon http://blog.notifo.com/ what would be the best way to keep receiving notifications? Now i'm using Growl - [[User:HINDUs|HINDUs]] 07:03, 14 September 2011 (PDT)
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This sort of thing would hopefully stop issues of people removing craft numbers in the infobox for items that aren't craftable, seeing as Valve seem to have craft numbers be a default setting for almost all cosmetics, apart from tournament medals and a few other ones I think. It could also make it easier to keep [[Crafting#Craftability|these]] templates up to date, especially if the parameter was changed to put items that can't be received from crafting into a category. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 19:30, 29 September 2014 (PDT)
:If you have an iOS device I will be soon implementing [http://boxcar.io/ Boxcar]'s service, which supports Growl. I'll let everyone know when it's ready. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 12:41, 14 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Internal Links vs. External Links ==
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== Translating [[MediaWiki:Toc]] ==
  
Hey Moussekateer,
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Windpower isn't here, I have to bug you now <3<br>
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This page contains the "Contents" string in the table of contents. In theory, this should be translated into other languages. What would be a good way of doing getting these strings? For example, we could ask editors, look up this string on wikipedia, add translations per request, etc. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 23:47, 20 October 2014 (PDT)
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:I think an entry in the dictionary perhaps? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 09:05, 21 October 2014 (PDT)
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::{{tl|dictionary/items/contents}} [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 16:41, 21 October 2014 (PDT)
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:::Maybe not under /items, there should be a more relevant subsection. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 16:48, 21 October 2014 (PDT)
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::::Where, then? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 17:45, 21 October 2014 (PDT)
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:::::Dictionary/common strings? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 17:59, 21 October 2014 (PDT)
  
I was just wondering what the difference was between an internal vs. external link (if they point to the same place). This is just for my own knowledge. Thanks! [[User:HellJumper|HellJumper]] 20:56, 19 September 2011 (PDT)
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== {{tl|Itemcount}} ==
:There's a few reasons to use internal links when possible, but mainly because it's much neater and cooler. There are other factors such as MediaWiki knowing which pages link to which (which comes in useful), and red links etc when you use internal style links. Basically you should always use an internal link if you link to anywhere in the wiki and an external link for external sites. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 21:04, 19 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:: Sounds good, thanks! [[User:HellJumper|HellJumper]] 21:51, 19 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Gunboats: THREE-DEE EDITION ==
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I'd like to change this template into a lua module. This should help it keep up-to-date better, since nobody likes updating it. The simplest way seems to be to extract key information from relevant pages, but I'm not quite sure how to do that. Could help me by creating a skeleton module or something similar that I could work off of? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 05:50, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
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:You could use the <code>mw.site.stats.pagesInCategory</code> function in lua but A) You'll have to subtract a certain number to get the true count and B) It's an expensive function. Not sure if you could do the same thing with the other counts. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 13:02, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
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::Which count are you thinking of? Also, I was under the impression lua could pull template parameters, is this not right? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 15:47, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
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:::Like the number of stranges/number of unusuals/etc. I'm not sure what it is you want to do exactly. I thought you wanted this to automatically count the number of items? If so how would you work out how many items there are? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 16:18, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
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::::I was confused by your "not sure if you could do the same thing with the other counts" since you didn't specify a count to take the 'others' of. The majority are not in categories, but are in things like Wqc/Cqc, or floating in multiple tables (stranges). Paint variants are detectable, styles are mostly detectable. Some of the info can be pulled from the schema, but that's not quite what I was going for. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 16:21, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
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:::::If you can't count them simply via category count or something similar then it's going to be very difficult to write code that can generate that info. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 16:23, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
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::::::Let's see...
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::::::Cosmetics -- [[:Category:Cosmetic items]]
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::::::Qualities (Vintage, Genuine, Strange, Unusual) -- Could write an extension to the {{tl|Quality list}} in the infobox to place in quality categories.
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::::::Styles -- No idea. This information is on the [[Styles]] page.
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::::::Paintable -- No idea. This information is technically in {{tl|Unpaintable items list}}, but I doubt it's very up-to-date.
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::::::Painted variants -- I can get this information manually from the [[Paint Can]] page, but I'd rather not hard-code things.
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::::::Where might I get the missing few numbers/can I process pages directly? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 16:29, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
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:::::::Not sure about styles. Paintable you can use [[:Category:Paintable items]], and painted variants I suppose you'll just have to math. It may be a lot of work (and an expensive module) to write just to keep the list up to date automatically but you can science. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 18:14, 2 November 2014 (PST)
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:::::::: Just a small thing here, there is [[:Category:Items with styles]] for styles. It has to be manually put onto item pages, but I'm pretty sure that it should contain all items that have styles. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 18:32, 2 November 2014 (PST)
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::::::::: Categories include all languages -.- so I need a way to process all elements in a category. I'm poking around for useful Lua modules, but I don't really know where to look. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 21:10, 2 November 2014 (PST)
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::::::::::They shouldn't afaik? They contain lang subcategories indeed but there may be a way to get back the category members without subcategories. [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual This page] should help you. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 21:19, 2 November 2014 (PST)
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{{outdent|10}}Of course. Whoops. Anyways, if we're just using templates, why not just use <nowiki>{{PAGESINCATEGORY:}}</nowiki>? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 21:25, 2 November 2014 (PST)
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:Yes, you could use that too. If getting the counts is straightforward then you could just go down the template route, but anything slightly more complicated and it'd be better as a module. I can't think of the top of my head now what a roadblock could be but there probably will be one :3 '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 21:33, 2 November 2014 (PST)
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::Well if there's no benefit to using the module beyond simple math, then I don't see a need to use it. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 21:34, 2 November 2014 (PST)
  
Hey Mousse, after doing the Mantreads yesterday it wasn't too much hassle to edit part of the soldier's vtf & vmt to make everything other than the boots invisible and take a new set of images for the Gunboats, but after doing so I realised that technically the gunboats model is really just the two metal bits attached to the default boots. You can see the result [[:File:User Mr Magoolachub Gunboats 3D test.jpg|here]], but before I added the values and requested a move etc I thought I should check first if having the boots in the 3D image was okay? I had a look through the list briefly and couldn't really find a precedent for this sort of thing, visually the gunboats are bolted in and attached to the boots so I thought it would make sense to include them in the picture as the boots really seem visually like part of the gunboats model. So yeah, just wanted your opinion on this first, it'll be no problem to retake them with nothing but the metal bits if that's what's wanted, just let me know. -[[User:Mr. Magoolachub|Mr. Magoolachub]] 00:56, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
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== I seeketh guidence. ==
:Nope, what you've done is perfect. They would look a bit weird with just two floating bits of metal heh. They look great as they are. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 02:20, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
 
::Ah, danke, will put values. -[[User:Mr. Magoolachub|Mr. Magoolachub]] 02:33, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Quick draw ==
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Ill tell you the quidence im after if you reply. Try replying with nonesense words. [[User:ScottishDrunkard|ScottishDrunkard]] ([[User talk:ScottishDrunkard|talk]]) 02:14, 2 January 2015 (PST)
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:what. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 04:20, 2 January 2015 (PST)
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:: Okay, good you responded. You see, many cosmetic pages have incorrect grammar. Someone tried changing it on one page an another user (who I leave unnamed for reasons) because it dosent match with the other page... A good idea would be to fix the grammar on all the page. I want to fix them but I fear of them getting undone. What should I do? (P.S. I would like to be banned from getting the Wiki Cap on my own accord. Can you do that?) [[User:ScottishDrunkard|ScottishDrunkard]] ([[User talk:ScottishDrunkard|talk]]) 04:36, 2 January 2015 (PST)
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:: Okay, me again. Ignore everything I said as it was a mistake of grammar. Ignore everything. (Exept my request for getting banned from ever acheiving a Wiki Cap. I have reasons) [[User:ScottishDrunkard|ScottishDrunkard]] ([[User talk:ScottishDrunkard|talk]]) 10:32, 2 January 2015 (PST)
  
{{Award Wikichievement
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== Request for advice on new project ==
| wikichievement = Quick draw
 
| from          = Lexar
 
| reason        = For the "small" thing.
 
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that was fast mate. '''<span style="font-family:aharoni; font-size:110%; font-style:italic;">[[File:RED Überneedle.png|42px|link=User:Lexar]] - <span style="text-decoration:underline">[[User:Lexar|Lexar]]</span> - <span style="text-decoration:underline">[[User talk:Lexar|talk]]</span></span>''' 07:04, 25 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== DEM WIKICHIEVES ==
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Hi there. I'm making a new Wiki project that has to do with defining game difficulty using a set of metrics. It's hosted at http://game-difficulty.wikia.com/wiki/, where I hope it will be manageable for many users. I've already gotten some advice, but not from people with a ton of experience with Wikia. Of course you've been on the TF2 Wiki for a long-ass time, so I do want some advice from you.
  
{{Award Wikichievement
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The Wiki is still in a very early state of development, where almost all of the metrics have yet to be formulated into pages. It's not a scientific wiki, but it's one that I'm trying to make interesting. It's something that nobody has ever done before with much ambition, so I hope that I can crate something interesting.
| wikichievement = 3d wizard
 
| from          = EpicEric
 
| reason        = Y U NO HAZ DIS WIKICHIEVE YET
 
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I know you made this Wikichieve so someone would give it to you, but anyways... {{n}} [[User:EpicEric|<span style="color:#5885A2;font-size:15px;font-family:'Trebuchet MS';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;"><b>Epic Eric</b></span>]] <small> ([[User talk:EpicEric|T]] <nowiki>|</nowiki> [[Special:Contributions/EpicEric|C]])</small> 10:51, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
 
:lol, I made it to give to everyone who helped ._. But thanks, I helped too! '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 10:57, 27 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== A Moment In IRC History ==
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If you have the time and the energy to do so, I would like to chat. I don't expect you to hop on board and start smacking pages around, but I do want a perspective on how the whole Wiki thing comes together. I have Skype and Steam (http://steamcommunity.com/id/internet-wastelander/) as my main comms - my history with e-mail is tragic.
  
http://pastie.org/2610016
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Thanks for reading this,
  
+1M.  Well done.  [[User:SS2R|SS2R]] 01:50, 29 September 2011 (PDT)
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[[User:Enthers|Samuel]] [[User:Enthers|Enthers]] 19:03, 7 January 2015 (PST)
:I was there when it happened, and survived it! [[User:Cthulhu1992|Cthulhu1992]] 02:04, 29 September 2011 (PDT)
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:Looks interesting. I'd love to contribute (as I do) in the form of technical backend, though the project looks coneceptually solid as well. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 20:04, 7 January 2015 (PST)
::Derp. That was bad of me, I looked at the folder and it only showed a couple of changes so I left it running overnight. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 13:15, 29 September 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== I did this. ==
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== Facial Flex and sequence frame on 3D Image program? ==
  
[[Team_Fortress_Wiki:3D_Models/Hats]]
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Hi Moussekateer, I was wondering where can I configure the facial flex and the frames on the 3D image program. The [[Team Fortress Wiki:3D Models/Classes|classes]] page shows the frame and facial flex in some of the classes, but I have no idea where to put. Thanks. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 10:23, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
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:Unfortunately you have to set <code>screenshotPause</code> to <code>true</code> in the script and set up the model between every screenshot manually for those. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 18:37, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
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::After setting the facial flex I want, what button do I press to continue? I suppose Num Lock? [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:14, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
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:::Yep. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 20:17, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
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::::Alright, thanks for the help. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:20, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
  
I hope this is okay. -[[User:Mr. Magoolachub|Mr. Magoolachub]] 01:58, 3 October 2011 (PDT)
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== "Moon status" (Template:If full moon) not properly indicating ==
  
== Спасибо ==
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Per our IRC, "Moon status" (Template:If full moon) is not properly indicating the present Full Moon in the Main Page, neither in the [[Full moon]] page.  I only noticed since this is the first complete Full Moon since I made use of (Template:If full moon) on my home page and on three User boxes I made last full moon.  I did try the purge on all of those pages and tried Chrome, Firefox, and IE. [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 19:49, 2 May 2015 (PDT)
  
Thanks. =) --[[User:Loginov|<span style="color:#3399FF;font-size:15px;font-family:'TF2 Build';">Gero* (Loginov)</span>]] <font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#808080"><span style="font-size:13px">[[User talk:Loginov|talk]]</span></font> 04:18, 3 October 2011 (PDT)
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: I may have [[Template:Fmp|fixed it]]. There was not enough precision in the calculation.  No wonder TF2 Wiki Full Moon has seemed to start sooner that the real full moon, in and out of game. The template is giving the correct number, but hasn't worked its way through the wiki yet. [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 05:40, 1 June 2015 (PDT)
  
== The Weapon Demonstration Project ==
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:: Not quite fixed. Showing correct phase now on [[Full Moon]], but wrong days (two days early), problem may be in the magic numbers in Template:Fmc. See also [[Template talk:Fmp]] [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 07:16, 1 June 2015 (PDT)
  
Mind if I take full responisbility for the remaining Weapons that don't have any demostrations? I deleted my Youtube account today and I can't remember why. I'll make another later on if I need to.
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== CSS question ==
  
[[User:2560x1600at120hz|2560x1600at120hz]] 15:11, 9 October 2011 (PDT)2560x1600at120hz
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Hello Moussekateer!<br />
:Hey there. I'm afraid I'm not the person in charge of that project, that would be [[User:WindPower|WindPower]]. However I believe the reason those weapons haven't been done yet is because they're the most difficult to demonstrate. I recommend you read the discussion on the [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Weapon Demonstration|project talk page]] if you want to get involved. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 15:34, 9 October 2011 (PDT)
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I want to use a [[User:Hagbard Celine/Page.css|CSS file]] for my [[User:Hagbard Celine|user page]] but it doesn't work. Lexar said only Admins can activate that option. Please tell me if you can help me with this and if there's anything I have to do first :) [[File:Killstreak_Icon.png|16px|link=User:Hagbard Celine]] [[User:Hagbard Celine|<span style="color:#ff6600;font-size:14px;font-family:'Tahoma';"><b>Hagbard Celine</b></span>]] <small>([[User talk:Hagbard Celine|T]]{{md}}[[Special:Contributions/Hagbard Celine|C]])</small> 04:45, 10 July 2015 (PDT)
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:I have enabled it now for your user page. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 10:59, 10 July 2015 (PDT)
  
== I did see I'd made it smaller ==
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== Broken external links ==
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I found the [[User:FreemBOT/Pages|broken external links]] Wiki Report by [[User:FreeXMan|FreeXMan's]] [[User:FreemBOT|FreemBOT]] a while ago but since he and his bot are no longer here I decided to implement this feature to my [[User:BOTzement|BOTzement]] (list can be found [[Team Fortress Wiki:Reports/BrokenLinks|here]]). Just now I saw that on the [[Team Fortress Wiki:Reports]] page there is [[User:Moussekateer/externallinks|another link]] to broken external links; yours. This has not been updated in a while either, but since you are obviously still here (as opposed to FreeXMan) I wanted to ask what the status on your page/bot is. It's not necessary to have two bot doing the same stuff so if this is still one of your tasks I will disable this task for my bot. Otherwise I will update the link on the wiki report page. [[File:User_SackZement_signature.gif|link=User:SackZement]][[User:SackZement|<span style="font-size:14px;font-family: Tf2 Build"><font color="orange">SackZement]]</font></span> [[User_talk:SackZement|&lt;Talk&gt;]] 04:23, 17 July 2015 (PDT)
  
and I just thought it may have been important, which I guessed wrong at. as usual. [[User:Davo|Davo]] 14:29, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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== [[Module:3D viewer advanced]] ==
:Ah but you made it so teeny you couldn't see the image anymore :( '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:33, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::eh, usually 10% of my changes end up being reverted. I might try and make myself useful some other way. [[User:Davo|Davo]] 13:33, 17 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== TNT Emblem ==
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Run me by the logic of not using this on every page. "Unrelatedly", it breaks when the only specified image is a colored_pair. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color:blue">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color:grey">Contribs</span>]]) 23:17, 21 September 2015 (PDT)
  
I'd appreciate it if you'd go back and revert your edits. As I said to Tturbo when he asked me about the emblem:
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== We want you! ==
  
''First off, I just noticed that Moussekateer went and reverted all my edits along with removing the RED version. Secondly, the RED version has always been on the articles. I just went and fixed it up a little bit and re-uploaded it under a new name. Thirdly, I have no clue if they are legit or not. [http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Talk:Demoman#SYMBOL_IS_WRONG I did find this post on the old TF2 Wiki], which leads me to believe that it is a formerly-used emblem.'' '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 17:42, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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... for April Fools 2016! After a two year hiatus, we've decided it's time to bring back the annual Team Fortress Wiki April Fools, and we'd love it if you could help out. If interested, join the discussions in [[Team Fortress Wiki:IRC|IRC]] and in our improptu [[User:Tark/April|organization page.]] --[[File:User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png|50px|link=User talk:Dr. Scaphandre]] [[User:Dr. Scaphandre|<font color="FFDF00"><big>''Dr. Scaphandre''</big></font>]] 10:22, 5 January 2016 (PST)
  
:Also, it'd be nice if I could be unbanned from the IRC. Last I remember, I was banned (permanently, apparently) for off-topic discussions or something. '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 17:43, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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== More modules! ==
  
::Actually, hold off on re-adding the Dynamite emblems to the page(s). I've noticed on the old TF2 Wiki's article for the Demoman, in the Trivia section; ''"The Demoman's class emblem is different from the emblem that appears on his sleeve, depicting a lit bomb rather than a stick of dynamite. However, he uses neither type of explosive"''. I'm currently Googling around to see if I can find any images of the Demoman with the Dynamite emblem. I'll report back if I find anything. '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 17:50, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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I'm creating [[Module:Availability]] to replace {{tl|avail}} for two reasons:
:::I removed the images, including the one there previously, because we have no idea if they're official or not. The talk page on tf2wiki suggests it was used at one point though. As for your IRC ban I'll get back to you when I find out the reason for it. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 17:53, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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# First and foremost, there's nbsp tags in there which cause problems with the 'buy now' link on some pages: [http://imgur.com/a/NeHB0]
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# Second, [[Template:Dictionary/templatecore]] is not a very good name and is slowly growing in an unsettling manner. Besides, much of it could be simplified greatly.
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[[User:Darkid|<span style="a.new">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="a.link">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="a.visited">Contribs</span>]]) 12:17, 3 March 2016 (PST)
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:Hmm, so I can't expand wiki templates, which means that this is probably not easily possible, since the translation strings should stay in the dictionary. [[User:Darkid|<span style="a.new">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="a.link">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="a.visited">Contribs</span>]]) 14:39, 3 March 2016 (PST)
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::[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto/Lua_reference_manual#frame:expandTemplate frame:expandTemplate] might help? '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 14:42, 3 March 2016 (PST)
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:::Quite a bit, actually! Looks very possible, now. One further concern: I'd like this template to be protected (much like availability is), but strings in it need modifying. That was solved before by using Dictionary/templatecore, but this basically defeated the purpose of making the template protected. At any rate, I'm not too worried about that here, because with scripting, there shouldn't be a large need to change the strings around. The big exception to this is crates, which need to be moved from active to retired. I think the best way of doing this would be to create individual redirects for each crate, which can be edited by users. Thoughts? [[User:Darkid|<span style="a.new">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="a.link">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="a.visited">Contribs</span>]]) 14:01, 4 March 2016 (PST)
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::::All set! Please take a look at [[Module:Availability/doc]] and verify that it matches [[Template:Availability/doc]]. Please protect the module page, and ideally apply low-level protection to [[Module:Availability/crate]], so that users can edit it without moderator/admin assistance. Please also protect [[Template:Avail]]. [[User:Darkid|<span style="a.new">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="a.link">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="a.visited">Contribs</span>]]) 19:02, 8 March 2016 (PST)
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:::::Done, thanks. [[User:Darkid|<span style="a.new">Darkid</span>]] ([[User talk:Darkid|<span style="a.link">Talk</span>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="a.visited">Contribs</span>]]) 06:24, 29 March 2016 (PDT)
  
: First you could have answered on your talk, I was watching it, no need to created new sections and divide the answers. Second I'm not talking about the IRC ban I know nothing of it, but if it's done there's probably a good reason. For the emblem it doesn't look legit at all, the old wiki isn't really a trustworthy source. This symbol isn't in the trailers videos, only place the dynamite is mentioned / seen (the circle is empty), and the previous symbol was a bomb, not a dynamite. So we reverted your edits because it wasn't relevant. If you find a trustworthy proof it existed, we'll add them back in the galleries. For now the files aren't deleted we can still add them back. Normally we had official stuff on this wiki, it can be unreleased but officially in the game files. Unofficially stuff, like rumors can go on another site dedicated to them, namely SUF (or SPUF I don't know how that fuss ended).  [[User:Tturbo|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#70B04A ">Tturbo</span>]] [[File:Killicon_ambassadorhs_unused.png|50px|link=User:Tturbo]] <sub><sub>([[File:Speech voice.png|20px|link=User talk:Tturbo]] / [[File:Intel neutral pickedup.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Tturbo]])</sub></sub> 17:57, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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== Flow and RelatedArticles ==
  
::Well well well. Guess what I found while watching [[Illustrative Rendering in Team Fortress 2]]? During the very first few seconds when they move past all the classes, you can see the Dynamite emblem on the Demoman's shoulder. Later on in the video however ''(if you pause at 0:54)'', the Demoman appears without an emblem, just the orange circle.
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Hello, could you add the extensions [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Flow Flow] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RelatedArticles RelatedArticles] ? Thanks [[User:CreativeC|CreativeC]] ([[User talk:CreativeC|talk]]) 12:03, 23 April 2016 (PDT)
::It is very hard to make out, even when you set the video to HD, but from what I can make out, it's not the bomb emblem. It's not round like the Bomb emblem, and the fuse appears to look just like it does in the emblem images of the Dynamite emblem. Take a look ''(and feel free to edit out the image once you've all seen it, as it's a bit big)'': '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 18:01, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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:Those are pretty nice looking extensions, especially Flow. We can't install them at the moment due to some load issues with the wiki, but we will evaluate them in the future for sure. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 15:26, 23 April 2016 (PDT)
  
:: [http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4466/dynamiteemblem.png Proof #1]
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== Username change. ==
  
:::Hahaha, and guess what else I found on '''this very Wiki'''? On [[Meet the Demoman]], in the "Notes" section: During the video, the Demoman can be seen with blank badges on either shoulder. The ending shot of all nine classes shows the Demoman with his '''original dynamite badge''', later changed to a generic bomb and finally to the current Stickybomb shoulder badge. '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 18:04, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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Hello, could you change my username or ask someone with that ability to do so? Gnój in Polish means "animal poo with straws from barns, which is used to fertilize ground" or you can call a person "Gnój" for being unfair, annoying ect. It is kidna embarrasing as Im now a grown man. I would like to have it changed to Josphirat. Thanks. [[User:๖ۣۜGnüj - steam (76561198005016886)|Josphirat]] ([[User talk:๖ۣۜGnüj - steam (76561198005016886)|talk]]) 14:28, 1 May 2016 (PDT)
::: [http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8684/dynamiteemblem2.png Proof #2]
 
::::Ok cool, good work tracking them down. I'll add the RED patch back, but not the BLU one you made seeing as it's your own personal work rather than official. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 18:08, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::::Awww, but the BLU one was a simply set of color overlays using official BLU emblem colors, done in Photoshop :( Sucks that it can't be added. '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 18:40, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:Just thought i should mention that valve has used the TNT emblem in a [http://www.teamfortress.com/companioncubepin/ semi-recent update]. [[File:User_M-NINJA_Signature.png|link=User:M-NINJA]] 19:02, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Just letting you know ahead of time ==
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== Who's that import? ==
  
I stumbled upon a PSD file containing all the RED/BLU class badges ''(though it does have the old "Bomb" emblem for the Demo, and the chunkier Sniper emblem)''. Apparently, the file was sent to someone by Robin Walker, and it only contained the RED emblems, so the person who received the file created the BLU versions himself using the BLU palette.
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<pre>
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import imgpie
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black = imgpie.wrap(self.blackImages[colour])
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white = imgpie.wrap(self.whiteImages[colour])
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</pre>
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Is this part of cython? NumPy? What does imgpie.wrap() actually do? [[User:Darkid|'''<span style="color: #db9c1f">Darkid</span>''']] « [[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color: #75735F">Talk</span>]] — [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color: #BA0000">Contribs</span>]] » 12:42, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
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:Only WindPower knows, apparently. Time to go ask! [[User:Darkid|'''<span style="color: #db9c1f">Darkid</span>''']] « [[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color: #75735F">Talk</span>]] — [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color: #BA0000">Contribs</span>]] » 13:29, 5 May 2016 (PDT)
  
However, while examining them all, I had them all visible and noticed that they were all off-centered by a couple of pixels. I've just now centered them all, and also found that when Valve made the RED badges, they used a "drop shadow" effect and a faint gradient overlay.
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== Updated the 3d models script ==
  
I have just saved the drop shadow/gradient overlay setup as a style and have applied it to the BLU team emblems. I figured I should let you know ahead of time that I will be saving new versions of every class badge and uploading them as new versions of the existing files. As well, because this pack that I found lacks the Demoman's Stickybomb/Dynamite emblems, and the current Sniper emblem, I'm going to have to pop the ones that we have on the Wiki currently into Photoshop and give it the proper filters and centering.
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It's a lot of changes, but I'll give you the rundown:
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* A lot of refactoring and removing extra files. For the most part, things aren't gone, just integrated inline because they had few uses.
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* Threadpool is now replaced with native threads. It's simply more complex than needed.
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* I got rid of imgpie, and all its associated files. As far as I can tell, it was for speedups, which was only needed if we were dealing with 3D colored hats. Painted variants alone don't need this, since 36 < 72.
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* Transparency was bugged in the old code, since it was doing 255 - 255*(whitePixel - blackPixel). This assumed the pixels were normalized; they were not. Thus, this value was often negative, yielding no transparency. With the fix, it works fine for items like Jarate, etc. I've redone most, if not all, of those 3D models.
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* As far as further improvements go, the best bets I see are:
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** Use ram modification to rotate the images. It's a pain, but it'd be a lot faster.
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** Find some way to support (via more trig) an incorrect '''vertical''' center of rotation. Ideally, you should be able to move the center of rotation arbitrarily on the model.
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** Removing NumPy won't speed up the code, but it will reduce the number of dependencies. At the moment, it's only used to crop images, which is happening in the background anyways.
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I've also taken the liberty of updating the tutorial somewhat, and creating a python 2.7 package. If you'd like these cleaned up in any way, or if you want to merge in the new code, go ahead.
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[[User:Darkid|'''<span style="color: #db9c1f">Darkid</span>''']] « [[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color: #75735F">Talk</span>]] — [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color: #BA0000">Contribs</span>]] » 00:04, 11 May 2016 (PDT)
  
But yeah, I found it odd how you didn't re-add the BLU Dynamite emblem because it was made by me, but yet the BLU team class badges we have on the Wiki weren't made by Valve, but by another person. [http://www.facepunch.com/threads/940851?p=22122801&viewfull=1#post22122801 Here's where I found the pack. It was on Facepunch, and the post in question is from early 2010]. '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 19:41, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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== Emergency wiki cap nomination meeting 1.0 ==
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A user hit 1 year in nomination queue due to lack of staff votes. We held an emergency meeting in IRC on Tuesday, May 17, and the result was [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Wiki_Cap/Nominations#Emergency meeting 1.0|this]]. Moussekateer, please provide some feedback! [[User:Darkid|'''<span style="color: #db9c1f">Darkid</span>''']] « [[User talk:Darkid|<span style="color: #75735F">Talk</span>]] — [[Special:Contributions/Darkid|<span style="color: #BA0000">Contribs</span>]] » 22:13, 17 May 2016 (PDT)
  
:Done. Oh, and I re-added the BLU "Dynamite" emblems back to the Demoman pages. In my defense, as I found out in that Facepunch thread, our BLU emblems were not created by Valve ''(Don't believe me? Look at [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/archive/4/45/20111013031317%21Pyro_badge_BLU.png this]. Notice the red pixels at the tips of the flames?)''. Therefore, seeing as we already use images that weren't made by Valve, but by a Facepunch user, logic dictates that my created emblems shall stay on the pages. '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 20:38, 12 October 2011 (PDT)
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== Change Email special page is gone! ==
  
== High Five taunt page ==
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Hey there. I tried to change my email but I found the special page is completely gone! I let some people know in IRC but no one seemed awake. I didn't know what else to do so I decided to leave a message on your talk page since you'll get a notification about it. Thanks! [[File:User_Blueberriess_Muffin.jpg|User:Blueberriess]] [[User:Blueberriess|Blueberriess]]  01:08, 13 July 2016 (PDT)
  
I know that the taunts were in TF2 long before Portal 2, I was saying Portal 2's co-op may have been the inspiration for the two man taunt. [[User:Danm36|Danm36]] 11:35, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
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== Update the tf_<language>.txt files pls ==
:When I said taunts I actually meant two man taunts. The animations were in the game a long long time ago, just not implemented. It was possible to see them using server mods though. So if anything the TF2 taunts were the inspiration for the Portal 2 taunts. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 11:38, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::I understand, I'll do more research next time [[User:Danm36|Danm36]] 12:43, 14 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== Well hello to you! ==
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Like said in the title could you push an update for the tf_<languages>.txt files? (f.e.https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File:Tf_german.txt ) I normally use them from here cause to find them myself is a mess (a bit). [[User:Magicalpony|Magicalpony]] ([[User talk:Magicalpony|talk]]) 05:08, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
  
Hi there, back at yea! ~ [[User:AustinAsDeidara|AustinAsDeidara]]
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== Spam ==
  
== Tavish Degroot Experience ==
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So I was trying to write me description but then it suddenly classifies as spam?
  
There is, in fact, a resemblance in the hats. I have uploaded a file to place on the page in order to prove it. Please refrain from removing my edits.--<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Marceline|Marceline]]''' ([[User talk:Marceline|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Marceline|contribs]]) </small>
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So here’s what I’m trying to write:
  
== gift spawns ==
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“Hello!
  
Hi, can you please add a link to the gift sprite you are using on [[:File:Halloween_Gift_spawn_locations.png]] to make it easier for other people to add spawns. As  a temporary measure here is a messy update of a few missing spawns. [[:File:Halloween_Gift_spawn_locations2.png]]. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 08:36, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
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“It’s very nice to meet you all!”
:The gift box sprite is just the gift box image found on the article scaled down to 8% of its original size. But I can add your points later when I get on my computer later. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 08:41, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
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“So first my steam link is https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198982670436/ (Feel free to add me!)
::I think one of the double grouping I added to the left of cap c might be a repeat of the present nw from there. I'm going to type out descriptions on [[Talk:Haunted Halloween Gift]] of where I've seen spawns. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 10:07, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::Done the list. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 10:19, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::Alrighty, I'll have a look at the list when I get the chance. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 10:22, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::::I don't really see the need to document all the areas where the gift spawns, because the spawn point is chosen at random. Last year, there was a gift that had gotten spawned behind one of those kind-of-open doors that you can see the frog through. No-one could get it, so I had to noclip through the door and grab the gift, then raffle it off. And in another instance, the gift got spawned outside the map limits. Same thing, had to noclip out and grab it. I don't know if Valve has fixed the spawn system to refine the co-ordinates, but you may as well just paste one giant Gift icon over the entire map :P '''[[User:404 User Not Found|404: User Not Found]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404_User_Not_Found|(talk)]]</sup> 12:57, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::::It's chosen at random from a set of predefined points. The gifts did initially spawn in out of bound areas but that was fixed pretty quickly. '''<span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:83%;">—[[File:User Moussekateer signature sprite.png|31px|link=User:Moussekateer]][[User:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black">Moussekateer</span>]]·[[User talk:Moussekateer|<span style="color:black;font-size:82%;">talk</span>]]</span>''' 13:28, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:::::I've collected 80+ masks last year and this, still got 40 and a saxton in my inventory I've not been able to sell. the spawns are definitely fixed points. The out of bounds one I guess were just some errant entities that didn't get cleaned up in hammer on the first pass. The list I posted on the talk page is pretty close to complete. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 16:41, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
I've uploaded a new [[:File:Halloween_Gift_spawn_locations2.png]], the badly drawn crossed out red dot is the approximate location of one of the removed out of bounds presents. The presents in the red circle might be the same present, its difficult to place the point C ones because of the view. The one on the right I added as the one in the side corridor between the main door and the piano room. The one on the left might be the same present in the correct position you originally picked, I can't tell with the perspective. The present in the blue circle is the one in the piano room, I could have placed a bit better but with it being on the floor below i'm not sure exactly where it should go, perhaps a chevron pointing down underneath it something just to indicate its below the present next to it. Or maybe the map should be numbered and matched up to the text descriptions. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 16:53, 23 October 2011 (PDT)
 
:Found new spawns, have updated the talk and temp image. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 09:26, 24 October 2011 (PDT)
 
::They are a lot more densely packed that I realised, I have a bunch of new spawns today filling in a lot of voids on the map. I have been screenshotting as many as I can now and uploading to my steam, links are next to the appropriate presents on the talk page list, maybe that will help verifying locations, only got 8 out 37 so far, you can see people taking advantage of my camera work to grab the present in some of them :D. Temp image also updated. [[User:Discordance|Discordance]] 15:09, 25 October 2011 (PDT)
 
  
== GAAAH! ==
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“Introduction”
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“I’m a Chinese male currently living in Australia
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Since I came to Australia when I was 2 I don’t know that much Chinese”
  
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BLOODY BRILLIANT! [[File:Painted_Vintage_Merryweather_803020.png|24px|link=User talk:Fyahweather]][[User:Flamborsia|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Fyahweather'''</u></big></tt></font></span>]] 16:33, 9 November 2011 (PST)
 
  
hi, can I (with my friends) translate wiki to Ukranian language?
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Hope you can solve this problem cause I’ve just made a edit and I really want people to really know me. (Or it’s because I want the Wiki Cap)
[[User:KamaZz|KamaZz]] 13:09, 24 November 2011 (PST)
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Thanks and have a nice day!

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Could you change the link that reads [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications MediaWiki Echo notification system] to [[w:mw:Help:Notifications|MediaWiki Echo notification system]]? It would remove the external link icon. Darkid (Talk|Contribs) 23:19, 17 December 2013 (PST)

Done. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 05:11, 18 December 2013 (PST)

Dictionary

Sorry for my mistake, I thought that the dictionary need to edit directly. I have not yet fully understood with redirections. Max 324 (talk) 21:54, 18 December 2013 (PST)

Featured Cosmetic

All done - Template:Featured cosmetic » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 10:15, 2 January 2014 (PST)

Good stuff. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 16:18, 2 January 2014 (PST)

Using automate.py

When I run automate.py, a few questionable things happen:

  • It asks me to overwrite regardless of the inputted name
  • It closes HLMV at the beginning of execution
  • It throws an error: "No such file or directory: targetimages\\openhlmv.png"

Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 07:30, 24 January 2014 (PST)

It only asks you to overwrite if the destination directory for the images already exists. It closes HLMV at the beginning because it needs to set the rotation for the first screenshot, this is normal. And now I've just realized you should be using automatebeta.py which doesn't use target images anymore. I need to get round to cleaning up the files for this. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 08:38, 24 January 2014 (PST)
Should I hold off until you fix up automatebeta? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 08:39, 24 January 2014 (PST)
No, you can use it now. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 08:40, 24 January 2014 (PST)
I get a WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified:

Traceback (most recent call last):

 File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\3D-Models-automaton-master\automatebeta.py", line 471, in <module>
   wikiPassword = 'Nope.avi'
 File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\3D-Models-automaton-master\automatebeta.py", line 275, in automateDis
   openHLMV(pathToHlmv)
 File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\3D-Models-automaton-master\automatebeta.py", line 29, in openHLMV
   subprocess.Popen([pathToHlmv + os.sep + 'hlmv.exe'], stdout=subprocess.PIPE, stderr=subprocess.PIPE)
 File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\Python26clean - Copy\lib\subprocess.py", line 633, in __init__
   errread, errwrite)
 File "C:\Users\Joseph Blackman\Downloads\Python26clean - Copy\lib\subprocess.py", line 842, in _execute_child
   startupinfo)

WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified Ideas? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 14:21, 24 January 2014 (PST)

It can't find hlmv.exe. Are you sure you've got the right path to it? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 14:46, 24 January 2014 (PST)

r'F:\Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\bin' Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 14:49, 24 January 2014 (PST)
That's the path to my Steam folder but likely not yours. Change that to your own. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 14:58, 24 January 2014 (PST)
Well I'm not a windows native, but I know HLMV is in Team Fortress 2/bin/HLMV.exe Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 15:00, 24 January 2014 (PST)
Yes, but is your Steam folder in the root of the F drive? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 08:32, 25 January 2014 (PST)
Err maybe? Probably not. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 08:33, 25 January 2014 (PST)
It's most likely not :p Find your path. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 08:58, 25 January 2014 (PST)

Buggy 3d images

File:User_Darkid_Test_3D.jpg. I'm not quite sure what's going wrong. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 11:49, 15 February 2014 (PST)

All fixed. Is gud. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 16:43, 15 February 2014 (PST)

3D images with VMTs

I'm having trouble with the blue festive ambassador. Although I've defined the BlueVMT parameter, the code doesn't use it, and also doesn't crop the "blue" output. Ideas? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 12:51, 17 February 2014 (PST)

So you have teamColours = True and BLUVMTFile = 'path\to\blue\vmt'? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 12:59, 17 February 2014 (PST)
Yes. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 17:45, 17 February 2014 (PST)
Can you try copying the contents of the blu vmt file into the red file and seeing what happens when you refresh in hlmv? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 17:49, 17 February 2014 (PST)
Sure, but I should note that I can change skins just fine within HLMV.
Also, aside from coloration, are there any issues with the file itself?
It has no effect--since I'm not editing the actual .vmt files. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 20:47, 17 February 2014 (PST)

3D images with custom models

I'm still having trouble zooming out--any ideas? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 18:09, 20 February 2014 (PST)

3D images

Could you help me? I'm trying to make a 3D image to the wiki, but do not know how. I made the image in all positions and now i want to add to the wiki. How to combine them to create 3D? Max 324 (talk) 21:59, 22 February 2014 (PST)

You need to be using the appropriate python script, which stiches at the end. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 22:00, 22 February 2014 (PST)
Hm... What should I do with this script? Max 324 (talk) 00:24, 23 February 2014 (PST)
Run it with python. See the 'documentation' here. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 12:06, 23 February 2014 (PST)
Thanks for help, but I think I use another method. I will try to ask on the page about 3d models. Max 324 (talk) 19:51, 23 February 2014 (PST)
What is the method you used? Because the 3D models are set up in a very specific way, that would be near impossible to do without the script. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 19:59, 23 February 2014 (PST)
In TFMV I set the specific starting position and each time changed the position of the camera (it changes every 15 degrees). Example here Max 324 (talk) 19:42, 24 February 2014 (PST)
You must have a lot of patience then. But it would be a lot better for you to use the scripts. Your images don't have transparency, which makes batch cropping and stitching very difficult. If you look at an example finished image you can see what the final 3d image looks like when done properly. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 20:06, 24 February 2014 (PST)
No transparency because it was not finished yet. And my workpiece can be united as your example? Max 324 (talk) 20:13, 24 February 2014 (PST)
Yes you can, but the script works by using two copies of every image, one with a black background and one with a white background. But again, the whole process is much much much easier if you use the script to generate the images. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 20:30, 24 February 2014 (PST)
And the last question:how to adjust the display position 3d image on the wiki? I saw that the parameter Maps different in different images Max 324 (talk) 19:29, 25 February 2014 (PST)
The script outputs the map into a text file once the stitching is done. User Zabidenu sig.png (contribstalk) 19:31, 25 February 2014 (PST)


Need help with 3D images

Hey, I'm trying to learn how to take images for 3D image. But I'm having trouble with setting up automatebeta.py. Can you give me an example of this? Thanks. Lf400212 (talk) 06:35, 25 March 2014 (PDT)

The process is rather long so it'd be easier if you told me which step you were stuck on. The default file contains some example settings that should guide you. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 15:23, 26 March 2014 (PDT)
On a related note, the majority of the 3d images left need recompiling. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 15:27, 26 March 2014 (PDT)
I've downloaded strongly recommended one from requirements section. and now I'm trying to find out where "automatebeta.py" is, but it isn't going well.. should i open up Notepad and make a new one? plus, i don't know how to do it :/ Lf400212 (talk) 06:29, 27 March 2014 (PDT)
It's in 3D_Models-automation-master. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 06:45, 27 March 2014 (PDT)

Love and War update

You created skeleton pages for a lot of the new items in the Love and War update. Thanks for doing this, although you seem to have set the patch date on those pages to June 19. The update was released on June 18. Since there was a patch today too, it's important those dates are changed on all the new item pages so people don't get confused between the two patches. --Piemanmoo 18:03, 19 June 2014 (PDT)

Yep, sorry about that. Issue with my script datetime that I will have resolved for next time. I've been trying to fix them by running through the pages with AWB, which should be simple in theory, but I all my edits are timing out due to the wiki load issues. I'll fix any stragglers when I can. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 18:11, 19 June 2014 (PDT)

Error uploading audio files

For some reason, I'm still unable to upload certain files.

If you recall my last post from Halloween, I was unable to upload

Sf13_mannbros_argue21.wav because it was too large (2.18MB) and Sf13_blutarch_win06.wav because of the MIME error.

This time around, I'm getting the same problem for Scout_taunt_nun_81.wav and Spy_taunt_dosi_end_11.wav due to

Cannot upload due to Files of the MIME type "application/x-php" are not allowed to be uploaded.

I still encounter the error even after a fresh re-extraction of the files through GCFScape. They play fine on my end.

There's also a strange audio file called mtt_medic_punchnslaps.wav which is 2.19MB and the uploader still won't accept it because it is larger than 2.00MB.

User Upgrade Signature.png 21:15, 20 June 2014 (PDT)

Unfortunately we don't have the ability to change the max file upload size ourselves. As for your other issue, I'm not sure why the server would be detecting the filetype incorrectly. It may be that the file was generated incorrectly and MW's guess at what filetype it is is tripping up for some reason. I'll have a try myself. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 05:22, 21 June 2014 (PDT)
It seems like every Halloween there's trouble uploading audio files. On time of getting error messages regarding the MIME type not being accepted, now I'm getting "413 Request Entity Too Large". It seems like I can't upload anything larger than 1MB whereas last year it was 2MB.
I'm not sure what to do and a quarter of the lines on Halloween Boss voice responses page are in red. User Upgrade Signature.png 11:28, 2 November 2014 (PST)
I'll look into it, but we haven't lowered the size limits at all so I'm not sure what's going on. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 18:15, 2 November 2014 (PST)

TF2 Character with a transparent background ?

Greetings, mate.
I saw what you did about drawing, etc.
I'm wondering if you could help me.
I have a screenshot of my Soldier here.
I would like to have him with a transparent background.
Like your Engineer on your User page, you see ?
I don't know what should I use to do that.
Can you help me, please ? Scher2o Killicon rocket launcher.png 05:47, 3 July 2014 (PDT)

You're going to need to follow the guide at Team Fortress Wiki:3D Models to create a 3D model. A screenshot won't do unfortunately, you'll need a bit of experience with HLMV and running scripts. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 16:47, 4 July 2014 (PDT)

some recompiling resources

Hey there Mousse.

I have a page here which has some small but useful information for the 3D model viewer recompile process.

Just want to run it by you and check if this information could be helpful in any way.

some examples of this in work are:

Equalizer

Minigun

Thanks

RED Überneedle.png - Lexar - talk 06:42, 21 July 2014 (PDT)

Looks good to me. It should be very helpful doing those pesky and tedious recompiles. Thanks for making this, stick it on the page pls. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 19:44, 21 July 2014 (PDT)

New version of wikitools

[1].
Also, how's the display template coming along? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 20:46, 22 July 2014 (PDT)

Did this version of wikitools sort out your upload issues? As for the template, I will push it out soon after I make a few changes. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 08:25, 24 July 2014 (PDT)
It doesn't directly have a wikiUpload.py, so I wasn't sure how to integrate it with your code (I don't understand python imports). Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 15:41, 30 July 2014 (PDT)

New languages translations.

Hi,I'm Greek Spy.I'm a user in the wiki and I have also helped with some stud articles but I would like to ask a question....Is the tf2 wiki gonna have any new languages added to it.I have seen that many languages are been supported right now by the wiki and I wonder if I could help in the translation of the articles in Greek.Many gamers here in greece play tf2 but don't use the wiki due ti being in a different language they dont really know.So this also the opportunity for other Greek Tf2 wiki users to help in expanding the wiki.I hope you take that in mind and give me an answer.

Thank you,Greek Spy. GreekSpy (talk) 13:31, 9 August 2014 (PDT)

talk page stalker Heyo, WindPower already gave an answer to a question similar to this before. The wiki only adds languages if it is supported by Valve for TF2. So if you can gather enough greek players and convince valve to add greek language support to TF2, then we can add it here. But until then, we can't really add new languages :( Ashes (talk) 13:43, 9 August 2014 (PDT)
(talk page stalker) Addendum: We support arabic and danish despite them having no official support. If you can get 10+ editors who are all willing to make consistent translations, then the wiki can support the language. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 14:01, 9 August 2014 (PDT)

wikifi license

Hai :o Your wikifi does not contain any license.md file, neither the files any similar header - under what license do you published the code? so i know, how/if i could fork/edit it slighly for my use :3
Monte / talk 06:15, 15 August 2014 (PDT)

Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I've licensed it under the GPLv3 license now, so go nuts. Hope that helps. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 07:20, 15 August 2014 (PDT)

{{Mw-langlink}}

I've got a better version here which should simplify matters. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 13:49, 27 September 2014 (PDT) Edit: dis.

Receivable from crafting in infobox

Hey Moussekateer, I've got a question. Would it be possible for you/a bot to add whether or not an item is craftable to the infobox (similar to the equip region script you've got)? As far as I'm aware, the craft_class line in the schema (which is in the no_craft prefab for a lot of items that have it, if you get your info from that part of the schema) determines whether or not an item can be received from crafting or not. If it just has "" or doesn't have the line at all, then it can't be crafted. On the other hand, if it has "hat", then it can potentially be received from any recipes that would give you a cosmetic.

The only other things I can see in there are supply_crate, tool, weapon, craft_bar, and craft_token. Tools and crates can't be crafted, so there are no issues with those. craft_bar and craft_token are used for the metals and for the tokens, so they (mostly) wouldn't be an issue as most of them only come from their respective recipes. The problem item with it would be the Haunted Scrap Metal, as that's marked as being a craft_bar, even though it can only be received from an achievement. The odd one is weapon, seeing as it includes all of the stock weapons (and assumedly their Botkiller/Festive/Australium reskins), along with the Ap-Sap, which can't be crafted due to not having a matching token I believe. There'd have to be exceptions for those obviously, but hopefully that wouldn't be too hard.

The only issue with this is what the infobox currently says for the craftable parameter. Either there would need to be a new parameter added to cover this, or the existing "craftable" parameter would need to be changed so that it says the item can be received from crafting, rather than being usable in crafting. I think the second option could be better for this, seeing as the existing parameter is pretty rarely used in the first place.

This sort of thing would hopefully stop issues of people removing craft numbers in the infobox for items that aren't craftable, seeing as Valve seem to have craft numbers be a default setting for almost all cosmetics, apart from tournament medals and a few other ones I think. It could also make it easier to keep these templates up to date, especially if the parameter was changed to put items that can't be received from crafting into a category. --Omolong (talk) 19:30, 29 September 2014 (PDT)

Translating MediaWiki:Toc

Windpower isn't here, I have to bug you now <3
This page contains the "Contents" string in the table of contents. In theory, this should be translated into other languages. What would be a good way of doing getting these strings? For example, we could ask editors, look up this string on wikipedia, add translations per request, etc. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 23:47, 20 October 2014 (PDT)

I think an entry in the dictionary perhaps? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 09:05, 21 October 2014 (PDT)
{{dictionary/items/contents}} Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 16:41, 21 October 2014 (PDT)
Maybe not under /items, there should be a more relevant subsection. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 16:48, 21 October 2014 (PDT)
Where, then? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 17:45, 21 October 2014 (PDT)
Dictionary/common strings? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 17:59, 21 October 2014 (PDT)

{{Itemcount}}

I'd like to change this template into a lua module. This should help it keep up-to-date better, since nobody likes updating it. The simplest way seems to be to extract key information from relevant pages, but I'm not quite sure how to do that. Could help me by creating a skeleton module or something similar that I could work off of? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 05:50, 31 October 2014 (PDT)

You could use the mw.site.stats.pagesInCategory function in lua but A) You'll have to subtract a certain number to get the true count and B) It's an expensive function. Not sure if you could do the same thing with the other counts. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 13:02, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
Which count are you thinking of? Also, I was under the impression lua could pull template parameters, is this not right? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 15:47, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
Like the number of stranges/number of unusuals/etc. I'm not sure what it is you want to do exactly. I thought you wanted this to automatically count the number of items? If so how would you work out how many items there are? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 16:18, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
I was confused by your "not sure if you could do the same thing with the other counts" since you didn't specify a count to take the 'others' of. The majority are not in categories, but are in things like Wqc/Cqc, or floating in multiple tables (stranges). Paint variants are detectable, styles are mostly detectable. Some of the info can be pulled from the schema, but that's not quite what I was going for. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 16:21, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
If you can't count them simply via category count or something similar then it's going to be very difficult to write code that can generate that info. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 16:23, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
Let's see...
Cosmetics -- Category:Cosmetic items
Qualities (Vintage, Genuine, Strange, Unusual) -- Could write an extension to the {{Quality list}} in the infobox to place in quality categories.
Styles -- No idea. This information is on the Styles page.
Paintable -- No idea. This information is technically in {{Unpaintable items list}}, but I doubt it's very up-to-date.
Painted variants -- I can get this information manually from the Paint Can page, but I'd rather not hard-code things.
Where might I get the missing few numbers/can I process pages directly? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 16:29, 31 October 2014 (PDT)
Not sure about styles. Paintable you can use Category:Paintable items, and painted variants I suppose you'll just have to math. It may be a lot of work (and an expensive module) to write just to keep the list up to date automatically but you can science. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 18:14, 2 November 2014 (PST)
Just a small thing here, there is Category:Items with styles for styles. It has to be manually put onto item pages, but I'm pretty sure that it should contain all items that have styles. --Omolong (talk) 18:32, 2 November 2014 (PST)
Categories include all languages -.- so I need a way to process all elements in a category. I'm poking around for useful Lua modules, but I don't really know where to look. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 21:10, 2 November 2014 (PST)
They shouldn't afaik? They contain lang subcategories indeed but there may be a way to get back the category members without subcategories. This page should help you. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 21:19, 2 November 2014 (PST)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Of course. Whoops. Anyways, if we're just using templates, why not just use {{PAGESINCATEGORY:}}? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 21:25, 2 November 2014 (PST)

Yes, you could use that too. If getting the counts is straightforward then you could just go down the template route, but anything slightly more complicated and it'd be better as a module. I can't think of the top of my head now what a roadblock could be but there probably will be one :3 User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 21:33, 2 November 2014 (PST)
Well if there's no benefit to using the module beyond simple math, then I don't see a need to use it. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 21:34, 2 November 2014 (PST)

I seeketh guidence.

Ill tell you the quidence im after if you reply. Try replying with nonesense words. ScottishDrunkard (talk) 02:14, 2 January 2015 (PST)

what. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 04:20, 2 January 2015 (PST)
Okay, good you responded. You see, many cosmetic pages have incorrect grammar. Someone tried changing it on one page an another user (who I leave unnamed for reasons) because it dosent match with the other page... A good idea would be to fix the grammar on all the page. I want to fix them but I fear of them getting undone. What should I do? (P.S. I would like to be banned from getting the Wiki Cap on my own accord. Can you do that?) ScottishDrunkard (talk) 04:36, 2 January 2015 (PST)
Okay, me again. Ignore everything I said as it was a mistake of grammar. Ignore everything. (Exept my request for getting banned from ever acheiving a Wiki Cap. I have reasons) ScottishDrunkard (talk) 10:32, 2 January 2015 (PST)

Request for advice on new project

Hi there. I'm making a new Wiki project that has to do with defining game difficulty using a set of metrics. It's hosted at http://game-difficulty.wikia.com/wiki/, where I hope it will be manageable for many users. I've already gotten some advice, but not from people with a ton of experience with Wikia. Of course you've been on the TF2 Wiki for a long-ass time, so I do want some advice from you.

The Wiki is still in a very early state of development, where almost all of the metrics have yet to be formulated into pages. It's not a scientific wiki, but it's one that I'm trying to make interesting. It's something that nobody has ever done before with much ambition, so I hope that I can crate something interesting.

If you have the time and the energy to do so, I would like to chat. I don't expect you to hop on board and start smacking pages around, but I do want a perspective on how the whole Wiki thing comes together. I have Skype and Steam (http://steamcommunity.com/id/internet-wastelander/) as my main comms - my history with e-mail is tragic.

Thanks for reading this,

Samuel Enthers 19:03, 7 January 2015 (PST)

Looks interesting. I'd love to contribute (as I do) in the form of technical backend, though the project looks coneceptually solid as well. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 20:04, 7 January 2015 (PST)

Facial Flex and sequence frame on 3D Image program?

Hi Moussekateer, I was wondering where can I configure the facial flex and the frames on the 3D image program. The classes page shows the frame and facial flex in some of the classes, but I have no idea where to put. Thanks. User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 10:23, 22 April 2015 (PDT)

Unfortunately you have to set screenshotPause to true in the script and set up the model between every screenshot manually for those. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 18:37, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
After setting the facial flex I want, what button do I press to continue? I suppose Num Lock? User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:14, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
Yep. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 20:17, 22 April 2015 (PDT)
Alright, thanks for the help. User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:20, 22 April 2015 (PDT)

"Moon status" (Template:If full moon) not properly indicating

Per our IRC, "Moon status" (Template:If full moon) is not properly indicating the present Full Moon in the Main Page, neither in the Full moon page. I only noticed since this is the first complete Full Moon since I made use of (Template:If full moon) on my home page and on three User boxes I made last full moon. I did try the purge on all of those pages and tried Chrome, Firefox, and IE. Mikado282 (talk) 19:49, 2 May 2015 (PDT)

I may have fixed it. There was not enough precision in the calculation. No wonder TF2 Wiki Full Moon has seemed to start sooner that the real full moon, in and out of game. The template is giving the correct number, but hasn't worked its way through the wiki yet. Mikado282 (talk) 05:40, 1 June 2015 (PDT)
Not quite fixed. Showing correct phase now on Full Moon, but wrong days (two days early), problem may be in the magic numbers in Template:Fmc. See also Template talk:Fmp Mikado282 (talk) 07:16, 1 June 2015 (PDT)

CSS question

Hello Moussekateer!
I want to use a CSS file for my user page but it doesn't work. Lexar said only Admins can activate that option. Please tell me if you can help me with this and if there's anything I have to do first :) Killstreak Icon.png Hagbard Celine (T · C) 04:45, 10 July 2015 (PDT)

I have enabled it now for your user page. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 10:59, 10 July 2015 (PDT)

Broken external links

I found the broken external links Wiki Report by FreeXMan's FreemBOT a while ago but since he and his bot are no longer here I decided to implement this feature to my BOTzement (list can be found here). Just now I saw that on the Team Fortress Wiki:Reports page there is another link to broken external links; yours. This has not been updated in a while either, but since you are obviously still here (as opposed to FreeXMan) I wanted to ask what the status on your page/bot is. It's not necessary to have two bot doing the same stuff so if this is still one of your tasks I will disable this task for my bot. Otherwise I will update the link on the wiki report page. User SackZement signature.gifSackZement <Talk> 04:23, 17 July 2015 (PDT)

Module:3D viewer advanced

Run me by the logic of not using this on every page. "Unrelatedly", it breaks when the only specified image is a colored_pair. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 23:17, 21 September 2015 (PDT)

We want you!

... for April Fools 2016! After a two year hiatus, we've decided it's time to bring back the annual Team Fortress Wiki April Fools, and we'd love it if you could help out. If interested, join the discussions in IRC and in our improptu organization page. --User Dr. Scaphandre Golden Ghastly Gibus.png Dr. Scaphandre 10:22, 5 January 2016 (PST)

More modules!

I'm creating Module:Availability to replace {{avail}} for two reasons:

  1. First and foremost, there's nbsp tags in there which cause problems with the 'buy now' link on some pages: [2]
  2. Second, Template:Dictionary/templatecore is not a very good name and is slowly growing in an unsettling manner. Besides, much of it could be simplified greatly.

Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 12:17, 3 March 2016 (PST)

Hmm, so I can't expand wiki templates, which means that this is probably not easily possible, since the translation strings should stay in the dictionary. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 14:39, 3 March 2016 (PST)
frame:expandTemplate might help? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 14:42, 3 March 2016 (PST)
Quite a bit, actually! Looks very possible, now. One further concern: I'd like this template to be protected (much like availability is), but strings in it need modifying. That was solved before by using Dictionary/templatecore, but this basically defeated the purpose of making the template protected. At any rate, I'm not too worried about that here, because with scripting, there shouldn't be a large need to change the strings around. The big exception to this is crates, which need to be moved from active to retired. I think the best way of doing this would be to create individual redirects for each crate, which can be edited by users. Thoughts? Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 14:01, 4 March 2016 (PST)
All set! Please take a look at Module:Availability/doc and verify that it matches Template:Availability/doc. Please protect the module page, and ideally apply low-level protection to Module:Availability/crate, so that users can edit it without moderator/admin assistance. Please also protect Template:Avail. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 19:02, 8 March 2016 (PST)
Done, thanks. Darkid (Talk | Contribs) 06:24, 29 March 2016 (PDT)

Flow and RelatedArticles

Hello, could you add the extensions Flow and RelatedArticles ? Thanks CreativeC (talk) 12:03, 23 April 2016 (PDT)

Those are pretty nice looking extensions, especially Flow. We can't install them at the moment due to some load issues with the wiki, but we will evaluate them in the future for sure. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 15:26, 23 April 2016 (PDT)

Username change.

Hello, could you change my username or ask someone with that ability to do so? Gnój in Polish means "animal poo with straws from barns, which is used to fertilize ground" or you can call a person "Gnój" for being unfair, annoying ect. It is kidna embarrasing as Im now a grown man. I would like to have it changed to Josphirat. Thanks. Josphirat (talk) 14:28, 1 May 2016 (PDT)

Who's that import?

import imgpie
black = imgpie.wrap(self.blackImages[colour])
white = imgpie.wrap(self.whiteImages[colour])

Is this part of cython? NumPy? What does imgpie.wrap() actually do? Darkid « TalkContribs » 12:42, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

Only WindPower knows, apparently. Time to go ask! Darkid « TalkContribs » 13:29, 5 May 2016 (PDT)

Updated the 3d models script

It's a lot of changes, but I'll give you the rundown:

  • A lot of refactoring and removing extra files. For the most part, things aren't gone, just integrated inline because they had few uses.
  • Threadpool is now replaced with native threads. It's simply more complex than needed.
  • I got rid of imgpie, and all its associated files. As far as I can tell, it was for speedups, which was only needed if we were dealing with 3D colored hats. Painted variants alone don't need this, since 36 < 72.
  • Transparency was bugged in the old code, since it was doing 255 - 255*(whitePixel - blackPixel). This assumed the pixels were normalized; they were not. Thus, this value was often negative, yielding no transparency. With the fix, it works fine for items like Jarate, etc. I've redone most, if not all, of those 3D models.
  • As far as further improvements go, the best bets I see are:
    • Use ram modification to rotate the images. It's a pain, but it'd be a lot faster.
    • Find some way to support (via more trig) an incorrect vertical center of rotation. Ideally, you should be able to move the center of rotation arbitrarily on the model.
    • Removing NumPy won't speed up the code, but it will reduce the number of dependencies. At the moment, it's only used to crop images, which is happening in the background anyways.

I've also taken the liberty of updating the tutorial somewhat, and creating a python 2.7 package. If you'd like these cleaned up in any way, or if you want to merge in the new code, go ahead. Darkid « TalkContribs » 00:04, 11 May 2016 (PDT)

Emergency wiki cap nomination meeting 1.0

A user hit 1 year in nomination queue due to lack of staff votes. We held an emergency meeting in IRC on Tuesday, May 17, and the result was this. Moussekateer, please provide some feedback! Darkid « TalkContribs » 22:13, 17 May 2016 (PDT)

Change Email special page is gone!

Hey there. I tried to change my email but I found the special page is completely gone! I let some people know in IRC but no one seemed awake. I didn't know what else to do so I decided to leave a message on your talk page since you'll get a notification about it. Thanks! User:Blueberriess Blueberriess 01:08, 13 July 2016 (PDT)

Update the tf_<language>.txt files pls

Like said in the title could you push an update for the tf_<languages>.txt files? (f.e.https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/File:Tf_german.txt ) I normally use them from here cause to find them myself is a mess (a bit). Magicalpony (talk) 05:08, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Spam

So I was trying to write me description but then it suddenly classifies as spam?

So here’s what I’m trying to write:

“Hello!

“It’s very nice to meet you all!” “So first my steam link is https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198982670436/ (Feel free to add me!)”

“Introduction” “I’m a Chinese male currently living in Australia Since I came to Australia when I was 2 I don’t know that much Chinese”

“TF2 is a timeless masterpiece”

Hope you can solve this problem cause I’ve just made a edit and I really want people to really know me. (Or it’s because I want the Wiki Cap) Thanks and have a nice day!