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| − | Didn't Heavy walk off with the note in hand, or was that a different piece of paper?
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| − | 05:36, 5 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | == Shop ==
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| − | In epilogue there is a sign: "Магазин Джугджур" — "Dzhugdzhur Shop". If you don't understand Russian. [[User:Archeops|Archeops]] ([[User talk:Archeops|talk]]) 08:00, 5 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | ==The teeth==
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| − | This could be a reference to Meet the Soldier, the BLU Spy has his teeth smashed out. It seems team does not matter since the Smissmas story was also with the BLU team.
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| − | after the MvM update the two teams got merged in a single RED one(this is prominent in "the shadow boxer" comic) and previous team differences has been insubstantial since then [[User:SerPomiz|SerPomiz]] ([[User talk:SerPomiz|talk]]) 16:29, 6 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | == 24 - House M.D. ==
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| − | [[User:MarkEngineer|Marco]] theorised, that 24th page and GHOST D.A. may be a reference to [[w:Doctor House|Doctor House]].
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| − | ::''[21:41:56] <MarcoDoctorwho> On the comic, the lawyer is played by the Medic''<br>
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| − | ::''[21:42:10] <MarcoDoctorwho> House M.D. is a medical drama (AKA medics, nurses etc...)''
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| − | <br> [[User:Talstas|<font style="text-shadow:violet 2px 2px 13px;"><b><font FACE="TF2 Secondary" color="#5A009D">TALSTAS</font>]]</b> <font FACE="Times New Roman" color="#B8383B">[[User_talk:Talstas|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Talstas|cont]]</font></font> 09:47, 6 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | :::IRC is not exactly something that could be cited, also: TF2 has a medic. House MD has medics. Thus TF2 = House MD! Or am I missing the part with the lawyer? [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[Image:Item icon Sir Shootsalot.png|21px|link=User_talk:Darkid|Talk]]|[[Image:Item icon Cold War Luchador.png|21px|link=Special:Contributions/Darkid|Contribs]]) 10:43, 6 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | ::::Actuyally I theorized a connection about medic and the HOUSE M.D. show. Even is is a legal drama, GHOST D.A. is still a parody of HOUSE M.D. in my opinion-- [[User:MarkEngineer|<font style="text-shadow:blue 2px 2px 13px;"><b><font FACE="ContaxPro75BoldSmCap" color="#003b6f">MarcoDoctorwho</font>]]</b> <font FACE="Pricedown BL" color="#003b6f">[[User_talk:MarkEngineer|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/MarkEngineer|contributi]]</font></font> 10:44, 6 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | :::::One is a show about a District Attorney who is a ghost, the other is about a Medical Doctor who is a jerk. There's no connection. --'''[[User:Piemanmoo|Piemanmoo]]''' 13:59, 6 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | == Objection! ==
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| − | In [http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/3/3f/Unhappyreturns39.jpg?t=20131205030631 Page 39], Soldier objects to the Scout in a strange way.
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| − | For one, the large font and red outline around the speech indicates very loud shouting. And also, the pose the Soldier objects in bears a striking resemblance to [http://gamingtrend.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/PW-Lead-In2-620x348.jpg Phoenix Wright's Objection Pose.] Now, this may be an utter coincidence, but it is a possibility that the two are related... Right..? [[User:ProfessorHeavy|ProfessorHeavy]] ([[User talk:ProfessorHeavy|talk]]) 13:17, 6 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | :I think you are right. It's a c however these as- kind people are keep deleting it so I give it up to insert it. Until someone convience them, it's need to be putted there [[User:Kori1997|Kori1997]] ([[User talk:Kori1997|talk]]) 10:32, 20 May 2014 (PDT)
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| − | ::I wouldn't consider a common pose and a common phrase as a reference to Phoenix Wright. Well, they're both pointing at something and shouting "Objection", but that's not a good proof for the reference, since it's very vague. Add the trivia when the author/writer marks them as a reference.
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| − | ::'''~{ [[User:TidB|TidB]]''' | [[User_talk:TidB|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/TidB|c]]''' }~''' 10:49, 20 May 2014 (PDT)
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| − | :::Let me put it another way. The objection position is a trope, a cliche, established long before there was ever a Phoenix Wright. There is nothing strange about Soldier's pose -- it is cliche. If anything, Phoenix Wright capitalizes on that cliche, and that being the case, of course Phoenix Wright will resemble any other character striking a pose following that same cliche. I see too many points of difference between Soldier's pose and Phoenix Wright's to see any connection other than the common cliche. [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 11:55, 20 May 2014 (PDT)
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| − | == Joey Murders and the Tooth Prick ==
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| − | Seriously how is it not relevant that what he uses is very similar to this [http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=81072177 workshop item?] It could be a possible hint of what's in an upcoming update.--[[User:OrangeRob|Mann Co. Orange is awesome]] ([[User talk:OrangeRob|talk]]) 04:06, 17 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | : It is more likely just a coincidence that they are similar, a shiv made out of a tooth brush isn't exactly an original idea. Plus, Valve did say that these comics aren't to do with any updates. --[[User:Omolong|Omolong]] ([[User talk:Omolong|talk]]) 05:07, 17 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | == Little trivia ==
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| − | I added a little trivia, feel free to remove it if you think that its useless [[User:Macedolago|Macedolago]] ([[User talk:Macedolago|talk]]) 18:38, 20 December 2013 (PST)
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| − | == Thoughts about trivia piece ==
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| − | ''"Although the RED Scout refers to the events of A Smissmas Story, that comic featured the BLU mercenaries instead. Likewise, the RED Spy is stated in Meet the Spy to be in a relationship with the BLU Scout's mother, but it is implied in this issue that he is in a relationship with the RED Scout's mother; this may be from the A Fate Worse Than Chess comic, where the teams merged into a single one."''
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| − | Actually, I think it works differently in the comics than in the games.
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| − | In the comics, we only ever see one of each character at a time.
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| − | I think in the comic universe, there is one of each character, and they switch teams based on who's paying them more, so rather than there being a bunch of people who look and talk alike, they just switch teams often (the Spy might be an exception in the WAR update comic).
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| − | There is no evidence that there is more than one of each team member (plus they have individual names) and the only time we see other engineers (Blood Brothers) they look different than the game Engineer. --[[User:PyroGothNerd|PyroGothNerd]] ([[User talk:PyroGothNerd|talk]]) 19:39, 8 April 2014 (PDT)
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| − | == Incorrect trivia? ==
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| − | "On pages 12 and 13, young Saxton Hale pronounces "Zoo" as though he thinks it's spelled "Zhou." This is a reference to Meet the Soldier, where the Soldier gives a wildly misinformed lecture on the history of warfare. According to the Soldier, Sun Tzu put two of every animal on a boat "and then he beat the crap out of every single one! And from that day forward, any time a bunch of animals are together in one place it's called a 'Zhou'! Unless it's a farm!""
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| − | According to the [[Meet_the_Soldier]] script, the last part is "it's called a 'zoo'!", not a 'Zhou'. ⇒[[File:Leaderboard class spy.png|16px|link=]] [[User:Anyar|<span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: TF2 Build">Anyar</span>]] ([[User_talk:Anyar|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Anyar|contributions]]/[[User:Anyar/No|giveaway]]) 19:45, 8 April 2017 (PDT)
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| − | : Fair catch, maybe. Yes, the "Zhou" spelling is not explicitly stated anywhere else(?) in the media.
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| − | : * Sun Tzu is pronounced /ˌsuːnˈdzuː/; but, Zhou is pronounced like the English name "Joe".
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| − | : * There is a [[W:Zhuang Zhou|Zhuang Zhou]]; no relation.
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| − | : * There is the [[W:Zhou dynasty|Zhou dynasty]]; again, no relation.
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| − | : But it could have been a reference, I am not psychic. Why else would it be so marked? Speculation: They could have been relying on American Vulgate pronunciation. It could be deleted on grounds of speculation or on grounds or observation if you make either case. [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 13:59, 9 April 2017 (PDT)
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| − | ::Yeah, someone may have thought Zhou was pronouncned "Zhoo" instead of "Zhoe". I doubt it's a reference. I'll edit it now. ⇒[[File:Leaderboard class spy.png|16px|link=]] [[User:Anyar|<span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: TF2 Build">Anyar</span>]] ([[User_talk:Anyar|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Anyar|contributions]]/[[User:Anyar/No|giveaway]]) 09:09, 10 April 2017 (PDT)
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| − | ::: But, if it is not a reference, then there's no trivia, just observation. Your edit still leaves the excessive recapitulation of Soldier's dialog, as well as the unnecessary speculation. Suppose, it is changed to
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| − | :::: "On page 12, young Saxton Hale's dialog reads "Zhou" where "Zoo" is expected. This refers to Soldier's lecture on Sun Tzu in [[Meet the Soldier]], with an erroneous assumption that ''Tzu'' and ''Zhou'' both sound like ''Zoo''. In standard Chinese, ''Zhou'' is pronounced like the English name ''Joe''."
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| − | ::: I avoided wiggle words, but it is still speculation, and just enough observation that I would not be against deletion. [[User:Mikado282|Mikado282]] ([[User talk:Mikado282|talk]]) 16:29, 11 April 2017 (PDT)
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| − | ::::That's a great idea. I wrote "tentative edit" for my summary because I didn't think it was perfect yet but didn't know how to improve without deleting it all. Alright, I'll make the edit and tweak it a bit. ⇒[[File:Leaderboard class spy.png|16px|link=]] [[User:Anyar|<span style="font-size: 16px; font-family: TF2 Build">Anyar</span>]] ([[User_talk:Anyar|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Anyar|contributions]]/[[User:Anyar/No|giveaway]]) 16:40, 11 April 2017 (PDT)
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| − | == Page 43 - Geneology ==
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| − | Rereading Unhappy Returns I noticed that on Page 43 Miss Pauling mentions the word 'geneology' although this seems to be misspelled on the page. (I checked, the correct spelling is genealogy, although geneology is a common mistake). Is this worth adding in the notes section?
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| − | [[User:Poplinn|Poplinn]] ([[User talk:Poplinn|talk]]) 21:51, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
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