User talk:Tark

Error creating thumbnail

Hey, I've recently been remaking some paint galleries for some potato medals and I've run into a problem, maybe. I uploaded the first of the galleries today and saw that many of the images I had uploaded show up in the gallery and file itself with the text saying "Error creating thumbnail: Unable to save thumbnail to destination." (Example File:Painted Madness vs Machines Burnished Beryl 2019 UNPAINTED.png) I was just curious if this was just a cache issue or if I should be doing something different before uploading more images. I would appreciate any help! H20verdrive (talk) 02:45, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Hey, that's only a cache issue that should not affect images and should fix itself in a few days. This is the most recent image stored, which is what you uploaded · Ashe (talk) 03:10, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Delete my account.

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Please do the above and delete as much data and public info as possible. I do not want anything with this alias on the website. I would like my account to be renamed to DeletedUserXXXX and all of my edits and revision history to be hidden.

Done. — Tark 14:16, 2 February 2022 (UTC)

Gloves of Running Urgently uses wrong defindex.

Hi. The GRU is using the wrong defindex. The weapon had a new defindex when the Jungle Inferno update came in. The current defindex "1184" on the Template:Dictionary/defindex page is now used exclusively to the robots on MVM. The new index should be "239". Due to this, clicking to purchase the weapon on the page does not work, as it's redirecting to the old defindex.

Was going to update but saw that the page is automatically replaced by this bot, so.

Oh, and I posted this on User talk:PhoneWave beforehand. I thought no one used the "About this board" section, lol. - ▪ - 03:04, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

Please edit User:PhoneWave/forceDefindex. — Tark 14:30, 5 February 2022 (UTC)

April Fools Day

Hi Tark. You expressed displeasure with the content I created for April Fools Day 2020, instead delaying it to 2021 which arguably created other problems. Since April Fools Day 2022 is coming up, I was wondering if you had any comments or thoughts or simply wanted to use whatever is made? Naleksuh (talk) 22:02, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

I haven't been following the wiki lately, but I recall some users are throwing ideas around for an April Fools event. I'm not sure how far they are (or if they gave up already), but I'd suggest contacting them instead (see April Fools talk page).

Once you guys have a project ready to go, please contact an active staff member so they can review and setup everything. — Tark 00:38, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Operation Peculiar Pandemonium on Main Page Current Events?

Will we include Operation Peculiar Pandemonium, the usual Pineapple.TF custom MVM memes tour, on the main page's current events section once it gets a blog post soon? It's a short event, April Fools tours usually only last a week or so; it shouldn't preempt anything potentially more notable in say, a week's timespan, the way Binary Blackout lasted four months. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 14:29, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Are you involved in this project in any way? I always see you making pages before events like this one are even announced. — Tark 18:15, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Not directly involved, no. I just grab the info that's available from tf_english.txt and items_game.txt and make sandbox pages for the eventual tour. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 22:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

Good.

As I said before, you're free to include any events that have a blog post. Events must have a start and end date and must be labeled as such on Steam: Bowmann Brawl Tournament is eligible, Operation Binary Blackout is not.

Also please remember to make use of the {{item description}} template. — Tark 15:05, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

That's the first I've heard of a new description template. I've added the medal descriptions, but what do I do in terms of the {{backpack item}} displays I'm using? I understand that putting the item's name in the item-name field makes it read the string from the dictionary, and the name gets filled in. But the item-description field just displays plain text, like it always has. Do I put nothing in there, do I put the item name in there? I imagine it would still just display the item name as text. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 01:50, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

|item-description = {{item description|medal name}} — Tark 02:03, 31 March 2022 (UTC)

Account Deletion

Users that no longer wish to have their account publicly present on the Team Fortress Wiki may request a deletion of any self-made content created and/or uploaded within their user space, including the user page. Users may also request their edits to be hidden in the History tab and/or have their account renamed to DeletedUserXXXX.

Could you do the following to my account?

Done. — Tark 17:29, 18 June 2022 (UTC)

Operation Anniversary Annihilation hotlink

I noticed you hotlinked the Operation Anniversary Annihilation text in the patch notes yesterday - I've been working on another sandbox page for the medals, since they're all the information we know about the tour conclusively at the moment. Would you rather I move that to a mainspace Operation Anniversary Annihilation page already? I thought the protocol was typically to wait for an official announcement, or something of that nature. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 00:35, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, in theory. The community event assessments project kinda died out, so there are no rules to enforce.

Given your involvement in these communities, could you ask them what they think about the proposed guidelines? Please leave all feedback here.

Thanks. — Tark 17:14, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

I've asked my contact at Potato's Servers about it, but I can't promise any feedback from them. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 04:53, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Player Medals in Promotional Item Tables

Last October, Swood and I discussed that he thought medals earned through actually playing TF2 in community events shouldn't be put in the promotional item tables, because they don't promote anything external, the way that say, the Random Acts medals do, and of course, charity donor medals do. I argue that they're still promoting an event, whether or not that event is in-game or not - and I feel that's different from a tournament medal, because it's something a wider range of the community is intended to take an interest in.

It was at that point that we had come to a compromise: that I would remove medals earned by playing the game from the promotional item tables, in exchange for him producing a disambiguation page for Community Medals that showed all available community medals, in the same style as the Genuine quality item table. It's now the following July, and nothing has come of that -- so I thought I'd ask you what your thoughts on the matter were.

Do player-earned community medals belong on the promotional item tables, and if so, should I just put them back, at least until such time as the disambiguation page is created? -ThatHatGuy (talk) 05:01, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

For your perusal, I've also created a sandbox page to show what the Expired Promotional Items table's Community section would look like, if player-earned medals were reinstated. If you don't have a problem with it, I can just merge it in; it is up to date with recent donor medals, as well. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 13:59, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Community medals (and, by extension, the Wiki Cap, Lo-Fi Longwave, and other community items) are technically promotional items. And so are tournament medals.

A good compromise, in my opinion, would be to remove everything that isn't a genuine promotion with other games in favor of creating a separate page for them. ([[Community promotions]]?)

And if this does not sound like a good idea, then please put them back/merge. — Tark 14:14, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for allowing medals back in, first of all.

I believe that tournament medals don't really follow the Active/Expired formula that the promo items page uses, as tournaments don't necessarily "expire", in the same way that an event will close forever once it is over. So what I plan to do now, having been given your blessing, is to bring back the community medals to the promotional items page, (as the ability to acquire them expires when each event ends,) and change the footnote that is currently there in the Community section to say that Tournament Medals will be showcased on the Tournament Medal disambiguation page -- which I will endeavour to rework, to showcase each design that tournament medals have.

Now, that can be done as a table similar to the promo table, with item icons and everything, or it can be a collection of backpack item displays, showcasing backpack icons and descriptions and such. It would take a while for me to get together, but I should be up to the task, however you choose for me to proceed with it. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 14:36, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

I'll leave it up to you. Please don't overwork yourself! — Tark 14:56, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Tournament Medal Rework Tech Help

I'm very excited about this one, this is it! This is the simplest, cleanest way to show these medals off. I've made a sandbox page with a test medal.

As you can see, this way, I'll only have to show a picture of the medal's design once, while still getting across all its future reuses. It's clean, it's nice, and it's what I've stuck with doing.

But I need help cleaning it up, on the tech side. Obviously the (also used as) could be turned into a common string, but how do I do the linked names beneath it? I can't just hotlink it, the way they are now, because when this gets translated, it needs to auto-link to that wiki's language. I need some sort of way to link through an auto-translated dictionary string. Can I generate a bold typefaced, automatically linked dictionary string somehow? -ThatHatGuy (talk) 04:54, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I like this format, great idea!

Some medals are available here (item link/name). If you intend to use their in-game names (as they are, without *any* modifications), I can generate the localized names automatically later.

I've added an example to your sandbox and dictionary. — Tark 10:35, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

I've already had to slightly modify a few of the table icon names, because some medals share names with each other. The item icon for "Ready Steady Pan Helper" is, for example, already taken up by the icon for Season 1's Participant medal, as those were also apparently given out to helpers during that season, under that name. So for the medal called "Ready Steady Pan Helper" in Season 3, I've had to change the item icon link to "Ready Steady Pan Helper Season 3", and force a name change to "Ready Steady Pan Helper" beneath it, as you can see. If that sort of thing isn't a hindrance to it, I would love for you to take up localization duties on this later. I do plan to use the names that exist in the dictionary already where I can. Makes it easier.

I appreciate your help in making the strings as well. This sort of thing will allow for the streamlined translation I was hoping for, to make this sort of thing easier on the backend; it's best to think ahead with these sorts of things, after all. With the plan I had, I didn't think I would need to list more than one season in the Released section of the tables, because I was trying to have that highlight the initial season those medal designs were introduced for; but I appreciate the capability to include several seasons in an easily translatable string.

Perhaps I'll change that so the patch date is the date designs were introduced, and the Season string below it would showcase all seasons where a medal was actually used. That might actually carry more weight to it. Can we also have a string that is basically "Season X onward," for medals that are currently in use out of several sets? Anything else you can think of like that might be useful, as well -- keeping in mind that some leagues only have one set of medals. I don't know if simply listing "Season 1" would help with that. Maybe just leave that without a season indicator?

Overall, I'm a fan of the tweaks you've made to it on the backend. I'd like to see what you have in mind for small touches on this going forward. I'm glad you like the idea as well! I'm proud of it, almost as much as I was back when I did the format redesign for how medal pages operate on the wiki in general with Faghetti. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 11:18, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

'ello Tarku, would it be possible to change the functionality of the "compmedallist season and|1|3" string so it can take N amount of variables (if it is not possible to have an arbitrary amount of variables just do like 4 or 5 for now) depending on how many different season intervals you want? So, for example, "compmedallist season and|1|3|5" could print out "Season 1, 3 & 5" (so the last number should always be separated by an & and the rest by a comma). Also, would it be possible for the variables to take on both ranges and single numbers? So "compmedallist season and|1|3-7|13" would print "Season 1, 3-7 & 13" for example. Just basically as much as an all-purpose string as possible. This would greatly increase the simplicity of use for now and the future. Faghetti V.2 (talk) 13:44, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi Faghetti!

It *is* possible, but I believe it is easier to use the regular {{lang}} template instead.

Automatic translation works best with text that is predictable. Would a long string like "Season 1, 3-7 & 13" be considered valid and grammatically correct in other languages? — Tark 16:49, 14 July 2022 (UTC)

My solution to that would just be to use several ranges of the strings we already have now. It might require a tad bit more tweaking, and look a little bit less clean, but I think that something like this would be fine. Obviously, these are just placement medals for the test, but you can see how we'd lay it out for whole sets of medals. We'd group each set from first introduced to latest set at the bottom of the table, and we'd say "this set was used for all these seasons" with line breaks each time a different set was used. That way, we can preserve translation integrity, if it's an issue of how the variables might translate. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 00:16, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Also, what are our thoughts about not including charity donor medals in the tournament medal page, even if they're hosted by a league, and pointing to their respective promotional items section instead in a note below the tournament medals, since community medals already reside at the promo pages at the moment? I've trialled such a note with the Australian Hightower Highjinx tournament for now -- but if we feel like we should, I can put the donor medals in their respective league tables too. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 10:19, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

A request

Can you please add our Polish editnotice for MediaWiki:Editnotice-0? Denied (Talk) 13:04, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done. — Tark 18:15, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Denied (Talk) 10:49, 17 July 2022 (UTC)

Help me to apply translations for protected pages!

Hey Tark, i need your help as moderator or admin to apply my translation for things. Reply if you can help BerryAVGN (talk) 13:30, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi sure. How may I help ya? — Tark 13:52, 23 July 2022 (UTC)

Well i got some update for main wiki page in russian https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Main_Page/ru

I need you to paste this on next line after " | box3-updates-text-latestblog = Посл. сообщение в блоге:"

" | box3-updates-text-latestcommunity = Избр. событие сообщества"

It's located almost at the end of page so i hope you will see it.

And next one you need to just replace with better one "| box-updatefeed-title = Ход обновления «Mann vs. Machine»" to

"| box-updatefeed-title = Ход обновл. режима «Манн против машин»"

It's located almost at the start of page.

Plus here translation of not created protected pages

You need to create the same page but with /ru at the end.

Here's page name and translation for it (don't copy ")

MediaWiki:Steamnewshub - "Новостной центр"

MediaWiki:Main_Page/ru (it's already created but there's no text for some reason) - "Главная страница"

MediaWiki:FAQ - "ЧаВО (англ.)"

MediaWiki:Languages - "Языки"

Thank you. BerryAVGN (talk) 10:32, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

 Done. — Tark 10:59, 24 July 2022 (UTC)