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Revision as of 19:30, 1 August 2011

Medieval mode is a game mode added in the Australian Christmas update. Currently, it is only used by default on the map DeGroot Keep. As only certain weapons are allowed, class balance (and therefore class strategies) are drastically altered from normal gameplay.

Contents

Leaderboard class scout.png Scout

The Scout remains the fastest class in this mode. However, without the close range bursts of his Scattergun, different strategies are need to play effectively.

Secondary weapons

Since you aren't allowed to use the Pistol and the Winger, always equip some kind of drink.

Bonk! Atomic Punch

Bonk! Atomic Punch

Because you no longer need Bonk! for most of its conventional purposes, this weapon becomes less necessary. Use it to bypass enemy lines or as a distraction or retreat.

Crit-a-Cola

Crit-a-Cola

Many of the strategies for using Crit-a-Cola in normal gameplay remain effective in Medieval mode. Use it to give yourself a boost before an ambush. Remember that without a ranged weapon, you won't be as powerful of an ambushing force, so take extra precautions to avoid damage.

Mad Milk

Mad Milk

Use Mad Milk in an area with many people so you and your team can maintain healing in a push. Also use it for Spy-checking, as Pyros no longer have a Flamethrower and Snipers no longer have Jarate.

Melee weapons

Bat / Saxxy

Bat Saxxy

You deal the least amount of melee damage on the team, but you can swing rapidly. Use your speed to your advantage and land hits on enemies while outmaneuvering them to avoid damage.

Sandman

Sandman

The Sandman gives the Scout a ranged weapon at the cost of 15 health. Use it to stun classes before moving in for a kill.

Holy Mackerel

Holy Mackerel

The Holy Mackerel still functions identically to the Bat except that it announces each hit in the kill feed. Since a hit that triggers a Spy's feign death will appear as a hit, not a kill, use this to track down Spies using the Dead Ringer.

Candy Cane

Candy Cane

Since there are very few ways to deal explosive damage in Medieval mode, this weapon is almost a direct upgrade. It will drop a health pack in addition to the pack that is always dropped upon kills in Medieval mode. Use this to keep your momentum in a prolonged fight.

Boston Basher / Three-Rune Blade

Boston BasherThree-Rune Blade

Since this weapon requires you to be precise with your attacks, it eliminates the tactic of swinging wildly. Use this weapon only when you're sure it will hit.

Sun-on-a-Stick

Sun-on-a-Stick

With few ways to burn enemies in Medieval mode, this weapon can be difficult to use. Consider using a different weapon unless you have a Pyro using the Sharpened Volcano Fragment or your Snipers shoot fire arrows frequently.

Fan O'War

Fan O'War

The Fan O'War allows teammates to finish off a marked opponent, but leaves you next to defenseless. Use hit-and-run tactics if you want to use this weapon, and stay out of fights otherwise.

Atomizer

Atomizer

The Atomizer's triple jump doesn't allow you to get anywhere you couldn't normally. With less damage and slower swings, you're much less effective in combat. Use the triple jump to move around enemies and stay away from direct fights.

Leaderboard class soldier.png Soldier

The Soldier, without his powerful Rocket Launcher, becomes much more of a support class in Medieval mode. Use your banners to provide assistance for the team in the absence of Übercharges.

Secondary weapons

The Shotgun, Reserve Shooter, and Righteous Bison aren't allowed.

Gunboats

Item icon Gunboats.png

Though the Gunboats are technically allowed, they are useless, since you cannot rocket jump. Use a different weapon.

Mantreads

Item icon Mantreads.png

The Mantreads suffer, as melee weapons cause very little knockback. Also, the ability to cause damage with fall damage is almost useless, since the only real place that fall damage can be caused is falling from the RED Team castle. Consider choosing another weapon instead.

Buff Banner

Item icon Buff Banner.png

Use the Buff Banner to help the team push to the final point. The mini-crits provided can help you overtake the other team. You can also use it to nullify an enemy Soldier's Battallion's Backup.

Battalion's Backup

Item icon Battalion's Backup.png

With few sources of healing in Medieval mode, it will be almost impossible to get a fully charge Battallion's Backup. However, if you do, use it to defend againt a push, especially against the final point. As with the Buff Banner, the Battallion's Backup can be used to negate an enemy's Buff Banner.

Concheror

Item icon Concheror.png

Since the only way to deal damage is to melee, this weapon is not as good as in normal gameplay. However, it can still be helpful in a push.

Melee weapons

Shovel / Frying Pan / Saxxy

Item icon Shovel.png Item icon Frying Pan.png Item icon Saxxy.png

The Shovel is a strong melee weapon that deals consistant damage. However, since Medieval mode makes many of the Soldier's weapons direct upgrades, you may want to use another weapon instead.

Equalizer

Item icon Equalizer.png

The Equalizer starts out weaker than the basic Shovel, but becomes more powerful and increases your movement speed as you take damage. Use this to your advantage in fights.

Pain Train

Item icon Pain Train.png

Since there are no bullets in Medieval mode, the Pain Train is generally a direct upgrade to the Shovel. Use it to help capture the points on offense, and switch to another weapon when on defense as it provides no defensive benefit. The shield bashes from a Demoman's Chargin' Targe or Splendid Screen count as bullet damage, so take care to avoid them.

Half-Zatoichi

Half-Zatoichi

Since you are generally bound to your melee weapon anyway, the Half-Zatoichi can also be seen as a direct upgrade to the Shovel. The healing it provides can allow you to continue fighting for long periods of time, which can be useful in building up the Battalion's Backup. Remember, however, that enemy Soldiers or Demomen also wielding the Half-Zatoichi can kill you in one hit and vice versa.

Disciplinary Action

Disciplinary Action

The Disciplinary Action allows you to speed up slower classes like Heavies, Demomen, and other Soldiers, but makes you weaker, making the Soldier even more support based. Avoid the frontlines of combat if you intend to use this weapon.

Market Gardener

Market Gardener

Since there is no way to rocket jump in Medieval mode, this weapon is a direct downgrade from the Shovel. Disregard this weapon entirely.

Leaderboard class pyro.png Pyro

Since the Pyro loses its Flamethrower, is given no secondary weapons, and has many situational melee weapons, the Pyro is a very difficult class to use in Medieval mode.

Melee weapons

Fire Axe / Saxxy

Item icon Fire Axe.png Item icon Saxxy.png

Without the close range Flamethrower, the Fire Axe gains more utility. Use it if you lack the Back Scratcher or Sharpened Volcano Fragment.

Axtinguisher / Postal Pummeler

Item icon Axtinguisher.png Item icon Postal Pummeler.png

Since you have no way to start fires, the Axtinguisher is a very difficult weapon to use. Unless you pair up with a Pyro using the Sharpened Volcano Fragement, you'll be very ineffective.

Homewrecker / Maul

Item icon Homewrecker.png Item icon Maul.png

Since Engineers cannot build buildings and Spies do not have Sappers in Medieval mode, the Homewrecker becomes a straight downgrade to the Fire Axe. Disregard this weapon entirely.

Powerjack

Item icon Powerjack.png

Kills with the Powerjack will give you a boost in health, which can be useful in prolonged fights. However, since you take 20% more damage from melee weapons, you'll find yourself dying much more quickly. If you use this weapon, attack enemies who are unaware of your presence, and if they discover you before you kill them, retreat.

Back Scratcher

Item icon Back Scratcher.png

As everyone drops a health pack on death in Medieval mode, this can be a very effective weapon. Even the small health packs can heal you a great deal, plus the weapon deals more damage. Medic based healing is severly lessened, so use the health packs more than your Medics.

Sharpened Volcano Fragment

Item icon Sharpened Volcano Fragment.png

With the exception of lit Huntsman arrows from Snipers, this is the only way to set enemies on fire. The afterburn will make up for the lack of initial damage. Pair up with Scouts equipped with the Sun-on-a-Stick to make a deadly combination. This also gives you a method of Spy-checking.

Leaderboard class demoman.png Demoman

As the Demoman has many weapons suited for melee-only combat, he is a force to be reckoned with in Medieval mode.

Primary weapons

The Grenade Launcher and the Loch-n-Load are not allowed.

Ali Baba's Wee Booties

Ali Baba's Wee Booties

This is the Demoman's only primary weapon available, so equip it if you have it. This will give you some, though small, turning control with your charges, and puts your health on par with the Soldier (or balances it out to normal if you use the Eyelander).

Secondary weapons

The Stickybomb Launcher, Scottish Resistance, and Sticky Jumper are not allowed.

Chargin' Targe

Chargin' Targe

This weapon loses its advantages when compared to the Splendid Screen because it provides more fire and explosive damage resistance, which is highly situational in Medieval mode. It is useful only against other Demomen using the Ullapool Caber, Pyros using the Sharpened Volcano Fragment, and Snipers using the Huntsman. However, it still has the ability to charge to obtain critical damage and to bash enemies, so equip it if you don't have a Splendid Screen.

Splendid Screen

Splendid Screen

Since there are few ways to deal fire or explosive damage in Medieval Mode, the halved resistances aren't that big of a deal. The Screen can deal charge impact damage at any range, dealing 70% more damage than the Targe, and also will allow critical hits at any charge distance. Use this in most situtations instead of a Chargin' Targe.

Melee weapons

Bottle / Frying Pan / Saxxy

BottleFrying PanSaxxy

Each weapon is capable of killing most classes in three hits, unmodified. With a successful charge, this can be reduced to a bash and an immediate hit, for critical damage. However, since some of the Demoman's weapons become direct upgrades in Medieval Mode, you're better off using one of those instead.

Eyelander / Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker / Nessie's Nine Iron

EyelanderHorseless Headless Horsemann's HeadtakerNessie's Nine Iron

The Eyelander and its equivalents have a longer melee range and the ability to gain speed and health with each kill, with the downsides of spawning with 25 less health and being unable to score random critical hits. After you get four kills with one of these weapons in one life, you will have 210 health at max (235 with the Ali Baba's Wee Booties). This extra health is useful when fighting several enemies. Additionally, you will gain 15 health with every kill if you are not at maximum health. These weapons should be used with one of the shields to be able to score critical hits.

Pain Train

Pain Train

Since there is no bullet damage except for charges in Medieval Mode, The Pain Train becomes a direct upgrade from the Bottle. Use your doubled capture rate with one of the shields to beat even Scouts to the point.

Scotsman's Skullcutter

Scotsman's Skullcutter

The Scotsman's Skullcutter has a longer melee range and deals 20% more damage, at the expense of 15% slower movement speed. It is especially useful with the Targe or the Screen as the speed of the charge will make up for the base speed drop and a critical will one-hit any class except a Heavy, which will require two hits.

Claidheamh Mòr

Claidheamh Mòr

The Claidheamh Mòr has a longer melee range and increases charge duration by one half second. The downsides include no random critical hits and 160 health on spawn (or 185 with the Ali Baba's Wee Booties). This weapon is obviously best used with a shield, as you will be able to charge further. The shields will also allow you to get critical hits. Without a sheild, this weapon becomes a direct downgrade, so use it only with a shield.

Ullapool Caber

Ullapool Caber

On hitting an enemy or a solid part of a map (wall, rock, ground, etc), the Ullapool will explode, doing damage to the enemies in the surrounding area. This weapon is best used when charging into a large crowd. It can one-hit kill all classes if it crits. This weapon is especially good for clearing the final point on DeGroot Keep. The Ullapool does pitiful damage once it has exploded, so return to a supply locker if you have the chance to replenish it.

Half-Zatoichi

Half-Zatoichi

Since you are generally bound to your melee weapon anyway, the Half-Zatoichi can be seen as a direct upgrade to the Bottle. Coupling it with a shield can allow you to pull off quick kills to restore your health and continue fighting for a long time. However, remember that enemy Soldiers or Demomen also wielding the Half-Zatoichi can still kill you in one hit and vice versa.

Persian Persuader

Persian Persuader

The Persian Persuader cuts the recharge time for either shield in half and allows you to pick up dropped weapons for health instead of refilled ammo. However, since you don't need ammo in Medieval Mode, this is irrevelant. The downside is no random critical hits. Using it with a shield can help combat this, since your more frequent charges allow you to use the crits that the shields offer more often.

Leaderboard class heavy.png Heavy

Due to the loss of the Minigun and slow movement speed, it can be difficult to use Heavy effectively in Medieval mode. However, his large health pool, especially when combined with the use of his food sources, means that he can be involved in prolonged fights.

Secondary Weapons

The Shotgun and the Family Business aren't allowed.

Sandvich

Sandvich

The Sandvich is useful for patching yourself up in between fights. However, you are helpless during its long consumption time. While a Sandvich thrown on the ground might heal for only half as much, it can often be a more efficient way to heal. Additionally, a thrown Sandvich can help keep teammates healthy.

Dalokohs Bar / Fishcake

Dalokohs Bar Fishcake

The Dalokohs Bar cannot heal you as quickly as the Sandvich and cannot be dropped for allies. However, because it has no cooldown, you can eat it at any time to heal minor wounds and continuously keep your increased maximum health. The Dalokohs Bar can be beneficial if your team lacks a Medic but does have a constant source of healing from dropped medkits.

Buffalo Steak Sandvich

Buffalo Steak Sandvich

The Buffalo Steak Sandvich can be useful in Medieval mode since it increases the Heavy's speed and deals out Mini-Crits. However, try to feint and dodge enemy attacks as their attacks will deal Mini-Crits to you. It can still be thrown onto the ground to heal yourself or injured teammates.

Melee Weapons

Fists / Saxxy

FistsSaxxy

Although Fists are a good melee weapon to use, Medieval mode causes other of Heavy's melee weapons to be upgrades. Switching to those may give you a stronger edge in combat.

Killing Gloves of Boxing

Killing Gloves of Boxing

Take out the Killing Gloves of Boxing when you have the enemy in a corner and can easily land your punches. Once you've obtained the critical hit boost, make the best use of it by finding a chain of people to attack. Crits deal out 195 damage so you can one hit kill most other classes.

Gloves of Running Urgently

Gloves of Running Urgently

Though the increased speed is helpful, the decreased damage makes you less effective, plus the draining health puts a timeclock on your life. It's best to disregard this weapon entirely.

Fists of Steel

Fists of Steel

The Fists of Steel is also not a good weapon due to the fact that most fights in Medieval mode are melee-based and the increased melee vulnerability will kill you quickly in most fights. Use Fists if the Fists of Steel is your only other melee weapon.

Warrior's Spirit

Warrior's Spirit

The slight damage increase does aid in killing enemies faster. Since there are frequent sources of healing from the dropped medkits, the health penalty is negligible.

Eviction Notice

Eviction Notice

The increased attack speed of the Eviction Notice does not make up for the reduced damage. Unless you are fairly inaccurate in melee combat and could benefit from firing twice as many punches, you're better off using a different melee weapon.

Leaderboard class engineer.png Engineer

The Engineer loses his main ability in Medieval mode - the ability to make buildings, thus he becomes a difficult class to use in Medieval mode.

Melee Weapons

Wrench / Golden Wrench / Saxxy

WrenchGolden WrenchSaxxy

The Wrench can deal out a strong and consistent amount of damage, making it a good weapon to use in Medieval mode.

Gunslinger

Gunslinger

The additional health the Gunslinger grants makes you a viable attacking force and the crit boost you receive after hitting an enemy 3 times can be very useful in prolonged fights, and even give you more crits than you would get normally.

Southern Hospitality

Southern Hospitality

The bleed effect of the Southern Hospitality can be useful in a one-on-one fight and help to track down Cloaked Spies. Try to avoid Pyro's wielding the Sharpened Volcano Fragment and flaming Huntsman arrows, as this weapon has a 20% fire damage vulnerability. However, since there are no other ways for fire damage to be dealt, the fire vulnerability is negligable.

Jag

Jag

The Jag is most suited to buildings, and thus is a direct downgrade to the Wrench in Medieval mode. Disregard this weapon entirely.

Leaderboard class medic.png Medic

The Medic, despite his lack of a Medi Gun, can still be an effective combatant and healer in Medieval mode.

Primary Weapons

Crusader's Crossbow

Crusader's Crossbow

The Crossbow is one of the Medic's only two options in terms of healing, and is also the only primary available. Use it if you have it. It can inflict up to 75 damage with a normal hit and can heal friendly players for up to 150 health. Using this weapon with the Amputator increases your health regeneration per second, which can allow you to stay in fights longer.

Melee Weapons

Bonesaw/Saxxy

BonesawSaxxy

Each weapon is able to kill most classes in three or four hits. If you are using one of these weapons with the Crossbow, use the Crossbow instead, as it can both heal teammates and hurt enemies. Use the melee if you are forced into a close-combat situation, however, as it will do more damage than the Crossbow can at short range.

Übersaw

Übersaw

The Übersaw is a direct downgrade from the Bonesaw in Medieval mode, because you are unable to use your Übercharge and the weapon swings slower. Disregard this weapon entirely.

Vita-Saw

Vita-Saw

The Vita-Saw is a direct downgrade from the Bonesaw in Medieval mode, because you are unable to build up an Übercharge and you spawn with 10 less health. Again, disregard this weapon as well.

Amputator

Amputator

The Amputator is an direct upgrade from the Bonesaw. It deals identical damage, but when you taunt it will heal all nearby teammates, at the cost of leaving you vulnerable for just over four seconds. Use this, instead of the Crusader's Crossbow to heal many teammates at once. Using this with the Crossbow will give you one extra health regenerated per second.

Solemn Vow

Solemn Vow

Like the Amputator, the Solemn Vow is a direct upgrade to the Bonesaw. It allows you to enter combat more intelligently, as you can gauge how much health enemy players have. Using this with the Crossbow enables you to select targets which have less health to go for, for a more likely kill.

Leaderboard class sniper.png Sniper

Since the Sniper retains one of his Primary Weapons, he can still be a good class to play in Medieval Mode.

Primary Weapons

The Sniper Rifle, Sydney Sleeper, and the Bazaar Bargain are not allowed.

Huntsman

Huntsman

As the only primary weapon the Sniper has, equip it if you have it. It is capable of dealing lethal force with a single shot, if aimed accurately. Additionally, use the various torches located throughout the map to light your arrows on fire to ignite enemies on hit.

Secondary Weapons

The SMG and the Jarate are not allowed.

Razorback

Razorback

The Razorback is technically a direct upgrade, but is only useful if the enemy team has a lot of Spies. Use the Razorback if the enemy team has Spies running around or if you don't have Darwin's Danger Shield.

Darwin's Danger Shield

Darwin's Danger Shield

Darwin's Danger Shield provides 25 extra health, which is very useful in close quarters combat. Use this if Spies are not a problem.

Melee Weapons

Kukri / Saxxy

KukriSaxxy

The Kukri is a decent weapon that deals good damage.

Tribalman's Shiv

Tribalman's Shiv

The Tribalman's Shiv initially does 50% less damage, however causes enemies to bleed for 6 seconds. After the bleed effect, the weapon finishes at around 80 damage. However, this leaves the target time to heal himself. Use this where there are few medkits nearby. The Shiv can be used for Spy-checking, as Cloaked Spies are noticeable if they are bleeding.

Bushwacka

Bushwacka

Due to this weapon dealing crits when it would normally mini-crit, it is more useful than the Kukri in several situations, such as when an opposing Heavy has consumed a Buffalo Steak Sandvich. However, without a way to creat mini-crits yourself, it's not as useful as it would be with Jarate. Watch for other Huntsman Snipers (using torches to light their arrows) or Sharpened Volcano Fragment-wielding Pyros.

Shahanshah

Shahanshah

The Shahanshah increases your damage by 25% when you are lower than 50% of your max health, but decreases it by 25% when you have more than 50% of your health. If you are planning on melee fighting only, do not use this weapon. The damage increase for low health isn't usually worth less damage at high health.

Leaderboard class spy.png Spy

While a main job of the Spy - sapping and destroying buildings, is not available in Medieval mode, the Spy still retains his ability to backstab and disguise. However, loss of the Revolver means that damage output can be very low if you are finding that your backstabs aren't landing.

Melee Weapons

Knife/Saxxy

Item icon Knife.png Item icon Saxxy.png

The Knife deals pitiful damage in one-to-one combat. It is highly advised that you stay away from fighting unless necessary and stick to backstabbing enemies only.

Your Eternal Reward

Item icon Your Eternal Reward.png

Since you now have lost one of your only tools in Medieval mode, you'll have to rely more on Cloak to hide. Once you have a disguise, feel free to move around freely, but still be careful not to blow your disguise with a stray attack. Remember to Cloak if you need to move around faster or escape.

Conniver's Kunai

Item icon Conniver's Kunai.png

The Conniver's Kunai's health reduction makes you very weak. Unless you are under the effects of its overheal, one melee swing from most classes can kill you. Play aggressively and try to land continuous backstabs to maintain your health and eliminate any negative status effects such as afterburn or bleeding. Using the Dead Ringer in conjunction with the Conniver's Kunai will allow you to quickly navigate behind enemy lines without dying quickly.

Big Earner

Item icon Big Earner.png

The Big Earner's health reduction does not make you as weak as the Conniver's Kunai, but the 25 health penalty can be a breaker in one-to-one combat. Play aggressively and get multiple kills to rapidly charge your Cloak for an escape.

PDA 1

Disguise Kit

Item icon Disguise Kit.png

Many of the basic strategies for the Disguise Kit hold true in Medieval Mode. Try to act like what that class would be doing. However, pay attention to what weapon your disguise is holding. If your disguise is holding a weapon that cannot be used in Medieval Mode, that gives the enemy team an obvious sign that you are a Spy. Press your "Use Last Disguise" key to change your weapon to melee.

PDA 2

Invisibility Watch / Enthusiast's Timepiece

Item icon Invisibility Watch.png Item icon Enthusiast's Timepiece.png

As Medieval Mode maps are generally small, you won't need to cover a very large distance, which is where the Invisiblity Watch excels. Also, with few places to refill your Cloak, you'll find it hard to recharge yourself. Equip another watch to give yourself more versatility.

Cloak and Dagger

Item icon Cloak and Dagger.png

Since Medieval maps have no places to refill ammo (except for fallen weapons), this is a good weapon to use for Medieval mode. Sneak behind groups of people and then land backstabbing sprees.

Dead Ringer

Item icon Dead Ringer.png

Since there are few places to refill your Cloak, it will be difficult to get anywhere far with the Dead Ringer. Use it with the weapons that reduce your health to survive in places of intense fighting.

See also