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=== Revolver ===
 
=== Revolver ===
  
The Revolver should never be used to fight the enemy directly. If the Spy manages to get a pick and has been discovered he should always immediately switch to his Revolver to deal with enemies, given the situations that Spies are used he will most likely not escape by cloaking away. The Big Kill is simply a re-skin of the Revolver, thus retains the same exact stats.
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The Revolver should never be used to fight the enemy directly. If the Spy manages to get a pick and has been discovered he should always immediately switch to his Revolver to deal with enemies, given the situations that Spies are used he will most likely not escape by cloaking away.  
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The [[Big Kill]] is simply a re-skin of the Revolver, thus retains the same exact stats.
  
 
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Attack: 0.58s <br>Reload: 1.16s
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Attack: 0.58s <br>Reload: 1.16s
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | If unfired in the past 1.25 seconds, shot has perfect accuracy.
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | If unfired in the past 1.25 seconds, shot has perfect accuracy.
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! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Big Kill]] <br>[[Image:Weapon thebigkill.png|link=Big Kill|70x39px]]
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Point-Blank: 60 <br>512u: 40 <br>1024u+: 21
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Critical: 120 <br>Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 81 <br>512u+ Mini-Crit: 54
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Attack: 0.58s <br>Reload: 1.16s
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Identical to the [[Spy_weapons_(competitive)#Revolver|Revolver]]
 
 
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''Note: The Big Kill is simply a re-skin, it has the same exact stats as the Revolver.''
 
  
 
=== The Ambassador ===
 
=== The Ambassador ===
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Accuracy based on time since last shot. <br>Criticals on headshot when accuracy is perfect.
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Accuracy based on time since last shot. <br>Criticals on headshot when accuracy is perfect.
 
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=== L'Etranger ===
 
=== L'Etranger ===
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | '''Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.''' <br>If unfired in the past 1.25 seconds, shot has perfect accuracy. <br>Fills [[Cloak]] meter 15% on hit.
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | '''Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.''' <br>If unfired in the past 1.25 seconds, shot has perfect accuracy. <br>Fills [[Cloak]] meter 15% on hit.
 
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===Primary Weapon Usage===
 
===Primary Weapon Usage===
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! style="background-color:#fffae7;" | [[Electro Sapper]] <br>[[Image:Sapper IMG.png|link=Electro Sapper|70x39px]]
 
! style="background-color:#fffae7;" | [[Electro Sapper]] <br>[[Image:Sapper IMG.png|link=Electro Sapper|70x39px]]
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | DPS on [[Buildings (competitive)|Buildings]]: 25
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| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | DPS on [[Buildings]]: 25
 
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | N/A
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Lv1 [[Buildings (competitive)|Building]]: 6.00s <br>Lv2 Building: 7.20s <br>Lv3 Building: 8.64s
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| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Lv1 [[Buildings]]: 6.00s <br>Lv2 Building: 7.20s <br>Lv3 Building: 8.64s
 
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Removed by two [[Engineer weapons (competitive)#Wrench|Wrench]] hits or one hit by the [[Pyro weapons (competitive)#Homewrecker|Homewrecker]]. <br>Reduces Spy's [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Damage Reduction|weapon damage to building]].
 
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Removed by two [[Engineer weapons (competitive)#Wrench|Wrench]] hits or one hit by the [[Pyro weapons (competitive)#Homewrecker|Homewrecker]]. <br>Reduces Spy's [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Damage Reduction|weapon damage to building]].
 
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== Melee Weapons ==
 
== Melee Weapons ==
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Facestabs and failstabs cause some unpredictability. <br>Without backstab, has lowest DPS of all stock melee. <br>A [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Dead Ringer|Dead Ringer]]-activated Spy cannot die to backstab.
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Facestabs and failstabs cause some unpredictability. <br>Without backstab, has lowest DPS of all stock melee. <br>A [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Dead Ringer|Dead Ringer]]-activated Spy cannot die to backstab.
 
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=== Your Eternal Reward ===
 
=== Your Eternal Reward ===
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | '''Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.''' <br>Disables [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Disguise|Disguise Kit]]. <br>Backstabs are silent and grant user instant disguise of killed foe. <br>Otherwise identical to [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Knife|Knife]].
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | '''Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.''' <br>Disables [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Disguise|Disguise Kit]]. <br>Backstabs are silent and grant user instant disguise of killed foe. <br>Otherwise identical to [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Knife|Knife]].
 
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=== Conniver's Kunai ===
 
=== Conniver's Kunai ===
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | '''Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.''' <br>On backstab: absorbs the health from your victim. <br>-65 max health on wearer
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | '''Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.''' <br>On backstab: absorbs the health from your victim. <br>-65 max health on wearer
 
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===Melee Weapon Usage===
 
===Melee Weapon Usage===
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| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Friendly Spy disguise drops any disguise instantly. <br>Grants [[knockback]] immunity, even with friendly disguise. <br>Reduces move speed to match disguise, but can't increase it.
 
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Friendly Spy disguise drops any disguise instantly. <br>Grants [[knockback]] immunity, even with friendly disguise. <br>Reduces move speed to match disguise, but can't increase it.
 
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=== Invisibility Watch ===
 
=== Invisibility Watch ===
  
 
The Spy's ability to turn invisible is his core mechanic. The Invisibility Watch is his standard cloak, allowing him to wander around invisible; It is regenerated through metal or slowly over time. If a pick is being attempted with the Invisibility Watch it must be made once the cloak has run out due to its very slow regeneration.
 
The Spy's ability to turn invisible is his core mechanic. The Invisibility Watch is his standard cloak, allowing him to wander around invisible; It is regenerated through metal or slowly over time. If a pick is being attempted with the Invisibility Watch it must be made once the cloak has run out due to its very slow regeneration.
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The [[Enthusiast's Timepiece]] is a reskin of the Invis Watch, and therefore has the same stats as the Invis Watch.
  
 
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cloak Duration: 10s <br>Recharge Wait: 33.5s <br>Cloak Initialize: 1.2s <br>Decloak Time: 2.2s
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cloak Duration: 10s <br>Recharge Wait: 33.5s <br>Cloak Initialize: 1.2s <br>Decloak Time: 2.2s
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Cloak]] flickers when damaged or touched by enemy. <br>Can be refilled with ammo and metal. <br>Cloak prevents new disguise smoke; doesn't hide old smoke. <br>Revealed by [[fire]], deep water, [[Sniper weapons (competitive)#Jarate|Jarate]], and [[Scout weapons (competitive)#Mad Milk|Mad Milk]].
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Cloak]] flickers when damaged or touched by enemy. <br>Can be refilled with ammo and metal. <br>Cloak prevents new disguise smoke; doesn't hide old smoke. <br>Revealed by [[fire]], deep water, [[Sniper weapons (competitive)#Jarate|Jarate]], and [[Scout weapons (competitive)#Mad Milk|Mad Milk]].
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! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Enthusiast's Timepiece|Enthusiast's<br/>Timepiece]] <br>[[Image:Backpack Enthusiast's Timepiece.png|link=Enthusiast's Timepiece|70x39px]]
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cloak Duration: 10s <br>Recharge Wait: 33.5s <br>Cloak Initialize: 1.2s <br>Decloak Time: 2.2s
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Identical stats to the [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Invisibility Watch|Invis. Watch]].
 
 
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''Note: The Enthusiast's Timepiece is simply a re-skin, it has the same exact stats as the Invisibility Watch.''
 
 
 
  
 
=== Cloak and Dagger ===
 
=== Cloak and Dagger ===
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cannot be refilled with ammo or metal. <br>Recharges based on lack of movement. <br>Loses charge when moving while cloaked. <br>Cloak flickers when moving while out of charge. <br>Otherwise identical to [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Invisibility Watch|Invisibility Watch]] and its Cloak.
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cannot be refilled with ammo or metal. <br>Recharges based on lack of movement. <br>Loses charge when moving while cloaked. <br>Cloak flickers when moving while out of charge. <br>Otherwise identical to [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Invisibility Watch|Invisibility Watch]] and its Cloak.
 
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=== Dead Ringer ===
 
=== Dead Ringer ===
  
The Dead Ringer can be a useful tool into tricking the enemy that they have killed you or have gotten an important pick. A pick can be attempted with the enemy fooled that they have killed you, making the second attempt very easy. The Dead Ringer's loud ring can sometimes be muffled down by voice communication, but can still be easily heard by anyone completely aware that a Spy is still around. A common tactic to use with the Dead Ringer is to disguise as an important pick target of your own team, such as a [[Demoman (competitive)|Demoman]], or Medic, while playing [[Gravel Pit(competitive)|Gravel Pit]] offense and run out the spawn gates with it activated to fool an enemy Demoman camping the gates at the start of the round to blow his stickies.
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The Dead Ringer can be a useful tool into tricking the enemy that they have killed you or have gotten an important pick. A pick can be attempted with the enemy fooled that they have killed you, making the second attempt very easy. The Dead Ringer's loud ring can sometimes be muffled down by voice communication, but can still be easily heard by anyone completely aware that a Spy is still around. A common tactic to use with the Dead Ringer is to disguise as an important pick target of your own team, such as a [[Demoman (competitive)|Demoman]], or Medic, while playing Gravel Pit offense and run out the spawn gates with it activated to fool an enemy Demoman camping the gates at the start of the round to blow his stickies.
  
 
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normal duration and regular Cloak during extensions. <br>Supercloak provides 90% damage reduction. <br>Cloaking extinguishes fire but does not prevent additional fire. <br>Decloaking reduces charge to 40% if higher. <br>Pickups cannot refill more than 35% charge. <br>Otherwise identical to Invisibility Watch and its Cloak.
 
normal duration and regular Cloak during extensions. <br>Supercloak provides 90% damage reduction. <br>Cloaking extinguishes fire but does not prevent additional fire. <br>Decloaking reduces charge to 40% if higher. <br>Pickups cannot refill more than 35% charge. <br>Otherwise identical to Invisibility Watch and its Cloak.
 
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== See also ==
 
== See also ==

Revision as of 08:52, 13 November 2011

This article is for competitive play, based on the standard community competitive format.
The community competitive scene changes frequently. Some or all info may be outdated.

The Spy is a class highly dependent on his stealth abilities to infiltrate past enemy defenses and get important Picks on key classes such as the Medic, or the Demoman.

Primary Weapons

If the Spy ever finds himself in a fire fight the Revolver can serve as a very powerful tool in dealing with an enemy. The Ambassador is also a good choice, given the player can reliably land a Headshot.

Revolver

The Revolver should never be used to fight the enemy directly. If the Spy manages to get a pick and has been discovered he should always immediately switch to his Revolver to deal with enemies, given the situations that Spies are used he will most likely not escape by cloaking away.

The Big Kill is simply a re-skin of the Revolver, thus retains the same exact stats.

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Revolver
Revolver IMG.png
Point-Blank: 60
512u: 40
1024u+: 21
Critical: 120
Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 81
512u+ Mini-Crit: 54
Attack: 0.58s
Reload: 1.16s
If unfired in the past 1.25 seconds, shot has perfect accuracy.


The Ambassador

Most of the Ambassador's power lies with its ability to crit on a successful headshot. Its first shot will always be point blank accurate, but its following shots will have a huge spread area. Due to its lower damage ouput and accuracy, the Revolver is preferred over the Ambassador.

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Ambassador
Ambassador.png
Point-Blank: 51
512u: 34
1024u+: 18
Critical: 102
Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 69
512u+ Mini-Crit: 46
Attack: 0.696
Reload: 1.16
Cooldown: 0.95s
Accuracy based on time since last shot.
Criticals on headshot when accuracy is perfect.


L'Etranger

Note: The L'Etranger is banned or restricted in some leagues.

The L'Etranger's functionality lies within its ability to restore clock on a successful hit, but does 20% less damage. In a competitive format going Spy is a suicide mission, as after a pick is gotten the chance of escape is very low. This renders the L'Etranger's cloak restoring abilities near useless because one it is used the other team will be aware that there is a Spy and attempting picks will be much harder.

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
L'Etranger
L'Étranger.png
Point-Blank: 48
512u: 32
1024u+: 17
Critical: 96
Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 65
512u+ Mini-Crit: 43
Attack: 0.58s
Reload: 1.16s
Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.
If unfired in the past 1.25 seconds, shot has perfect accuracy.
Fills Cloak meter 15% on hit.


Primary Weapon Usage

Most leagues have banned the L'Etranger because it was released mid season. As for choosing between the Revolver and the Ambassador, it's mainly personal preference; the Revolver is generally preferred due to the extra damage that it does compared to the Ambassador, however, if you can consistently headshot people then the Ambassador is the gun for you.

Secondary Weapons

Electro Sapper

The Spy's only secondary weapon is his Electro Sapper. This will be rarely used in a competitive environment, as Engineers are also rarely used.

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Electro Sapper
Sapper IMG.png
DPS on Buildings: 25 N/A Lv1 Buildings: 6.00s
Lv2 Building: 7.20s
Lv3 Building: 8.64s
Removed by two Wrench hits or one hit by the Homewrecker.
Reduces Spy's weapon damage to building.


Melee Weapons

The Spy's Picking power lies primarily in his melee weapons. The Knife and Eternal Reward can kill any class instantly through a Backstab, making the Spy an ideal picking class.

Knife

The Knife is the Spy's standard melee weapon. In direct combat it does minimal damage and should only ever be used for a quick backstab.

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Knife
Knife Weapon.png
Melee, Frontal: 40
Backstab: 600% target HP
Critical: 120
Mini-Crit: 54
Attack: 0.8s Facestabs and failstabs cause some unpredictability.
Without backstab, has lowest DPS of all stock melee.
A Dead Ringer-activated Spy cannot die to backstab.


Your Eternal Reward

Note: Your Eternal Reward is banned or restricted in some leagues.

Your Eternal Reward has the same stats and damage output that the regular Knife does but does not allow Spies to disguise. This puts the Spy at a disadvantage as they can be immediately found and dealt with. Upon a successful stab the Spy will take the victims identity and the kill will be silent. This is useless in a competitive environment as all teams use vocal communication, thus making the Spy very easily found.

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Your Eternal
Reward

RED Eternal Reward.png
Melee, Frontal: 40
Backstab: 600% target HP
Critical: 120
Mini-Crit: 54
Attack: 0.8s Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.
Disables Disguise Kit.
Backstabs are silent and grant user instant disguise of killed foe.
Otherwise identical to Knife.


Conniver's Kunai

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Conniver's Kunai
Conniver's Kunai.png
Melee, Frontal: 40
Backstab: 600% target HP
Critical: 120
Mini-Crit: 54
Attack: 0.8s Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.
On backstab: absorbs the health from your victim.
-65 max health on wearer


Melee Weapon Usage

There isn't a lot of choice of melee weapons, all of the leagues have banned all of the unlocks.

PDA Items

Disguise Kit

The Disguise Kit is a marginally important tool in fooling the enemy. In a competitive environment players will be more aware of their teammates, but a disguise will still raise questionable suspicion rather than immediate. During fire fights players can sometimes be more easily tricked as Spies are not used often in competitive play, thus letting the Spy easily weave through his enemies without a cloak.

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Disguise Kit
PDA disguise.png
N/A N/A Disguise Time: 2s
Smoke Duration: 3s
Friendly Spy disguise drops any disguise instantly.
Grants knockback immunity, even with friendly disguise.
Reduces move speed to match disguise, but can't increase it.


Invisibility Watch

The Spy's ability to turn invisible is his core mechanic. The Invisibility Watch is his standard cloak, allowing him to wander around invisible; It is regenerated through metal or slowly over time. If a pick is being attempted with the Invisibility Watch it must be made once the cloak has run out due to its very slow regeneration.

The Enthusiast's Timepiece is a reskin of the Invis Watch, and therefore has the same stats as the Invis Watch.

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Invisibility
Watch

Invisibilitywatch.PNG
N/A N/A Cloak Duration: 10s
Recharge Wait: 33.5s
Cloak Initialize: 1.2s
Decloak Time: 2.2s
Cloak flickers when damaged or touched by enemy.
Can be refilled with ammo and metal.
Cloak prevents new disguise smoke; doesn't hide old smoke.
Revealed by fire, deep water, Jarate, and Mad Milk.


Cloak and Dagger

The Cloak and Dagger is an ideal cloak for attempting target specific picks. Because it is motion sensitive, a Spy can wait for the opportune time to attack his target. This is best done when the enemy is pressured by spam or retreating to the Medic for health.


Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Cloak and Dagger
Cloak and Dagger.PNG
N/A N/A Duration, Running: 6.8s
Duration, Crawling: 66.5s
Recharge Wait: 18.2s
Cloak Initialize: 1.2s
Decloak Time: 2.2s
Cannot be refilled with ammo or metal.
Recharges based on lack of movement.
Loses charge when moving while cloaked.
Cloak flickers when moving while out of charge.
Otherwise identical to Invisibility Watch and its Cloak.


Dead Ringer

The Dead Ringer can be a useful tool into tricking the enemy that they have killed you or have gotten an important pick. A pick can be attempted with the enemy fooled that they have killed you, making the second attempt very easy. The Dead Ringer's loud ring can sometimes be muffled down by voice communication, but can still be easily heard by anyone completely aware that a Spy is still around. A common tactic to use with the Dead Ringer is to disguise as an important pick target of your own team, such as a Demoman, or Medic, while playing Gravel Pit offense and run out the spawn gates with it activated to fool an enemy Demoman camping the gates at the start of the round to blow his stickies.

Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
Dead Ringer
Dead Ringer.png
N/A N/A Supercloak Duration: 6.5s
Decloak Time: 2.2s
Recharge from 0%: 16s
Recharge from 40%: 9.6s
Recharge from 75%: 4s
Cloak triggers from any damage, which is subject to supercloak effects.
Trigger fakes death (corpses drop enemy disguises), ending on decloak.
Provides supercloak in

normal duration and regular Cloak during extensions.
Supercloak provides 90% damage reduction.
Cloaking extinguishes fire but does not prevent additional fire.
Decloaking reduces charge to 40% if higher.
Pickups cannot refill more than 35% charge.
Otherwise identical to Invisibility Watch and its Cloak.


See also

Spy (competitive)
Utility