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! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Revolver|Revolver]] <br>[[Image:Revolver IMG.png|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#Revolver|70x39px]]
 
! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Revolver|Revolver]] <br>[[Image:Revolver IMG.png|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#Revolver|70x39px]]
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Point-Blank: 60 <br>512u: 40 <br>1024u+: 21
 
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Point-Blank: 51 <br>512u: 34 <br>1024u+: 18
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Point-Blank: 51 <br>512u: 34 <br>1024u+: 18
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Critical: 102 <br>Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 69 <br>512u+ Mini-Crit: 46
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Critical: 102 <br>Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 69 <br>512u+ Mini-Crit: 46
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Attack: 0.696 <br>Reload: 1.16 <br>Accuracy Cooldown: 0.95s
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Attack: 0.696 <br>Reload: 1.16 <br>Cooldown: 0.95s
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Accuracy based on time since last shot. <br>Criticals on headshot when accuracy is perfect.
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Accuracy based on time since last shot. <br>Criticals on headshot when accuracy is perfect.
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! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#L'Etranger|L'Etranger]] <br>[[Image:L'Étranger.png|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#L'Etranger|70x39px]]
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Point-Blank: 48 <br>512u: 32 <br>1024u+: 17
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Critical: 96 <br>Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 65 <br>512u+ Mini-Crit: 43
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Attack: 0.58s <br>Reload: 1.16s
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | '''Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.''' <br>If unfired in the past 1.25 seconds, shot has perfect accuracy. <br>Fills [[Cloak]] meter 15% on hit.
 
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| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | DPS on [[Buildings (competitive)|Buildings]]: 25
 
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | DPS on [[Buildings (competitive)|Buildings]]: 25
 
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | N/A
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Lv1 [[Buildings (competitive)|Building]] Destroy: 6.00s <br>Lv2 Building Destroy: 7.20s <br>Lv3 Building Destroy: 8.64s
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| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Lv1 [[Buildings (competitive)|Building]]: 6.00s <br>Lv2 Building: 7.20s <br>Lv3 Building: 8.64s
| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Removed by two [[Engineer weapons (competitive)#Wrench|Wrench]] hits or one hit by the [[Homewrecker]]. <br>Reduces Spy's [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Damage Reduction|weapon damage to building]].
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| style="background-color:#fffae7;" | Removed by two [[Engineer weapons (competitive)#Wrench|Wrench]] hits or one hit by the [[Pyro weapons (competitive)#Homewrecker|Homewrecker]]. <br>Reduces Spy's [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Damage Reduction|weapon damage to building]].
 
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! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Knife|Knife]] <br>[[Image:Knife Weapon.png|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#Knife|70x39px]]
 
! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Knife|Knife]] <br>[[Image:Knife Weapon.png|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#Knife|70x39px]]
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Melee, Frontal: 40 <br>[[Backstab]]: 200% target HP
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Critical: 120 <br>Mini-Crit: 54
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Attack: 0.8s
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Facestabs and failstabs cause some unpredictability. <br>Without backstab, has lowest DPS of all non-unlock melee. <br>A [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Dead Ringer|Dead Ringer]]-activated Spy cannot die to backstab.
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! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Your Eternal Reward|Eternal Reward]] <br>[[Image:RED Eternal Reward.png|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#Knife|70x39px]]
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Melee, Frontal: 40 <br>Backstab: 200% target HP
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Melee, Frontal: 40 <br>Backstab: 200% target HP
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Critical: 120 <br>Mini-Crit: 54
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Critical: 120 <br>Mini-Crit: 54
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Attack: 0.8s
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Attack: 0.8s
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Facestabs and failstabs cause some unpredictability. <br>Without [[backstab]], has lowest DPS of all non-unlock melee. <br>A [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Dead Ringer|Dead Ringer]]-activated Spy cannot die to backstab.
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | '''Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.''' <br>Disables [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Disguise|Disguise Kit]]. <br>Backstabs are silent and grant user instant disguise of killed foe. <br>Otherwise identical to [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Knife|Knife]].
 
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! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Invisibility watch|Invis. watch]] <br>[[Image:Invisibilitywatch.PNG|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#Invisibility watch|70x39px]]
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! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Invisibility Watch|Invis. Watch]] <br>[[Image:Invisibilitywatch.PNG|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#Invisibility Watch|70x39px]]
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
 
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cloak Duration, Running: 6.8s <br>Cloak Duration, Crawling: 66.5s <br>Recharge Wait: 18.2s <br>Cloak Initialize: 1.2s <br>Decloak Time: 2.2s
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Duration, Running: 6.8s <br>Duration, Crawling: 66.5s <br>Recharge Wait: 18.2s <br>Cloak Initialize: 1.2s <br>Decloak Time: 2.2s
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cannot be refilled with ammo or metal. <br>Recharges based on lack of movement. <br>Loses charge when moving while cloaked. <br>Cloak flickers when moving while out of charge. <br>Otherwise identical to [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Invisibility Watch|IW]] and its Cloak.
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cannot be refilled with ammo or metal. <br>Recharges based on lack of movement. <br>Loses charge when moving while cloaked. <br>Cloak flickers when moving while out of charge. <br>Otherwise identical to [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Invisibility Watch|Invisibility Watch]] and its Cloak.
 
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! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Dead Ringer|Dead Ringer]] <br>[[Image:Dead Ringer.png|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#Dead Ringer|70x39px]]
 
! style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | [[Spy weapons (competitive)#Dead Ringer|Dead Ringer]] <br>[[Image:Dead Ringer.png|link=Spy weapons (competitive)#Dead Ringer|70x39px]]
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
 
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | N/A
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Supercloak Duration: 6.5s <br>Decloak Time: 2.2s <br>Recharge Wait from 0%: 16s <br>Recharge Wait from 40%: 9.6s <br>Recharge Wait from 75%: 4s
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Supercloak Duration: 6.5s <br>Decloak Time: 2.2s <br>Recharge from 0%: 16s <br>Recharge from 40%: 9.6s <br>Recharge from 75%: 4s
| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cloak triggers from any damage, which is subject to supercloak effects. <br>Trigger fakes death (corpses drop enemy disguises), ending on decloak. <br>Provides supercloak in normal duration and regular Cloak during extensions. <br>Supercloak provides 90% damage reduction. <br>Cloaking extinguishes fire but does not prevent additional fire. <br>Decloaking reduces charge to 40% if higher. <br>Pickups cannot refill more than 35% charge. <br>Otherwise identical to IW and its Cloak.
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| style="background-color:#FFF4CC;" | Cloak triggers from any damage, which is subject to supercloak effects. <br>Trigger fakes death (corpses drop enemy disguises), ending on decloak. <br>Provides supercloak in normal duration and regular Cloak during extensions. <br>Supercloak provides 90% damage reduction. <br>Cloaking extinguishes fire but does not prevent additional fire. <br>Decloaking reduces charge to 40% if higher. <br>Pickups cannot refill more than 35% charge. <br>Otherwise identical to Invisibility Watch and its Cloak.
 
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:''"u" stands for "units of distance." "+" stands for "or more." "s" stands for "seconds." "Reload Start" refers to how long it takes for 1 ammo to be reloaded after beginning to reload, and "Reload More" refers to how long it takes for each additional ammo to reload after the first. Damages and times are approximate and determined by community testing.
 
:''"u" stands for "units of distance." "+" stands for "or more." "s" stands for "seconds." "Reload Start" refers to how long it takes for 1 ammo to be reloaded after beginning to reload, and "Reload More" refers to how long it takes for each additional ammo to reload after the first. Damages and times are approximate and determined by community testing.
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=== Attack-Defend Strategies ===
 
=== Attack-Defend Strategies ===
A defending team on an Attack/Defend map such as [[Gravelpit (competitive)|Gravel Pit]] will almost never switch out one of their Utility players for a Spy. This is due to the fact that a Spy cannot contribute to spam and help defend an area like other utilities can, and their role is reduced to [[backstab]]bing key targets, something that is already very difficult in a setting where players constantly turn around and check their backs. Spies on defending teams are thus generally not the best use of player slots. The attacking team may use a Spy instead of a Scout if a strong defense that may be assisted by a well-placed [[Sentry Gun]] needs to be disrupted, without the use of an [[ÜberCharge (competitive)|ÜberCharge]]. The Spy will attempt to eliminate the Sentry Gun or a key player, and distract the enemy team to allow his own team to break the enemy's defense without spending the time to build up an [[ÜberCharge (competitive)|ÜberCharge]].
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A defending team on an Attack/Defend map such as [[Gravelpit (competitive)|Gravel Pit]] will almost never switch out one of their Utility players for a Spy. This is due to the fact that a Spy cannot contribute to spam and help defend an area like other utilities can, and their role is reduced to [[backstab]]bing key targets, something that is already very difficult in a setting where players constantly turn around and check their backs. Spies on defending teams are thus generally not the best use of player slots. The attacking team may use a Spy instead of a Scout if a strong defense that may be assisted by a well-placed [[Sentry Gun]] needs to be disrupted, without the use of an [[ÜberCharge (competitive)|Über]]. The Spy will attempt to eliminate the Sentry Gun or a key player, and distract the enemy team to allow his own team to break the enemy's defense without spending the time to build up an [[ÜberCharge (competitive)|ÜberCharge]].
  
 
=== Capture-the-Flag Strategies ===
 
=== Capture-the-Flag Strategies ===

Revision as of 03:44, 9 October 2010

This article is for competitive play, based on the standard community competitive format.
The community competitive scene changes frequently. Some or all info may be outdated.
Spy.png

Spy is a situational utility class sometimes used in the standard competitive lineup, valued for his stalemate-breaking and picking capabilities.

Information

Health

Max Health Overheal Max Pill Bottle First Aid Tin
125 hit points
185 hit points
+26 hit points
+63 hit points

Speed

Running Backpedaling Swimming Crouching
100% (300 u/s) 90% (270 u/s) 80% (240 u/s) 33.33% (100 u/s)

Speeds written in "u/s" refer to in-game units per second. When running in a certain direction causes slowness, rapidly switching between diagonals usually improves speed.

Weapons

Main article: Spy weapons (competitive)
See also: Disguise (competitive)
# Weapon Damage Critical Damage Function Times Special
1 Revolver
Revolver IMG.png
Point-Blank: 60
512u: 40
1024u+: 21
Critical: 120
Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 81
512u+ Mini-Crit: 54
Attack: 0.58s
Reload: 1.16s
If unfired in the past 1.25 seconds, shot has perfect accuracy.
Ambassador
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Point-Blank: 51
512u: 34
1024u+: 18
Critical: 102
Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 69
512u+ Mini-Crit: 46
Attack: 0.696
Reload: 1.16
Cooldown: 0.95s
Accuracy based on time since last shot.
Criticals on headshot when accuracy is perfect.
L'Etranger
L'Étranger.png
Point-Blank: 48
512u: 32
1024u+: 17
Critical: 96
Point-Blank Mini-Crit: 65
512u+ Mini-Crit: 43
Attack: 0.58s
Reload: 1.16s
Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.
If unfired in the past 1.25 seconds, shot has perfect accuracy.
Fills Cloak meter 15% on hit.
2 Electro Sapper
Sapper IMG.png
DPS on Buildings: 25 N/A Lv1 Building: 6.00s
Lv2 Building: 7.20s
Lv3 Building: 8.64s
Removed by two Wrench hits or one hit by the Homewrecker.
Reduces Spy's weapon damage to building.
3 Knife
Knife Weapon.png
Melee, Frontal: 40
Backstab: 200% target HP
Critical: 120
Mini-Crit: 54
Attack: 0.8s Facestabs and failstabs cause some unpredictability.
Without backstab, has lowest DPS of all non-unlock melee.
A Dead Ringer-activated Spy cannot die to backstab.
Eternal Reward
RED Eternal Reward.png
Melee, Frontal: 40
Backstab: 200% target HP
Critical: 120
Mini-Crit: 54
Attack: 0.8s Banned in most leagues for acquisition time.
Disables Disguise Kit.
Backstabs are silent and grant user instant disguise of killed foe.
Otherwise identical to Knife.
4 Disguise
PDA disguise.png
N/A N/A Disguise Time: 2s
Smoke Duration: 3s
Friendly Spy disguise drops any disguise instantly.
Grants knockback immunity, even with friendly disguise.
Reduces move speed to match disguise, but can't increase it.
- Invis. Watch
Invisibilitywatch.PNG
N/A N/A Cloak Duration: 10s
Recharge Wait: 33.5s
Cloak Initialize: 1.2s
Decloak Time: 2.2s
Cloak flickers when damaged or touched by enemy.
Can be refilled with ammo and metal.
Cloak prevents new disguise smoke; doesn't hide old smoke.
Revealed by fire and Jarate.
Cloak & Dagger
Cloak and Dagger.PNG
N/A N/A Duration, Running: 6.8s
Duration, Crawling: 66.5s
Recharge Wait: 18.2s
Cloak Initialize: 1.2s
Decloak Time: 2.2s
Cannot be refilled with ammo or metal.
Recharges based on lack of movement.
Loses charge when moving while cloaked.
Cloak flickers when moving while out of charge.
Otherwise identical to Invisibility Watch and its Cloak.
Dead Ringer
Dead Ringer.png
N/A N/A Supercloak Duration: 6.5s
Decloak Time: 2.2s
Recharge from 0%: 16s
Recharge from 40%: 9.6s
Recharge from 75%: 4s
Cloak triggers from any damage, which is subject to supercloak effects.
Trigger fakes death (corpses drop enemy disguises), ending on decloak.
Provides supercloak in normal duration and regular Cloak during extensions.
Supercloak provides 90% damage reduction.
Cloaking extinguishes fire but does not prevent additional fire.
Decloaking reduces charge to 40% if higher.
Pickups cannot refill more than 35% charge.
Otherwise identical to Invisibility Watch and its Cloak.
"u" stands for "units of distance." "+" stands for "or more." "s" stands for "seconds." "Reload Start" refers to how long it takes for 1 ammo to be reloaded after beginning to reload, and "Reload More" refers to how long it takes for each additional ammo to reload after the first. Damages and times are approximate and determined by community testing.

Usage

The Spy generally depends on an uncoordinated team's mistakes to turn a game around. However, a highly efficient competitive team will make very few mistakes, and effective communication will reduce the chances of the Spy being useful in any way whatsoever. This makes the Spy one of the least played utilities in competitive games.

Common Tactics

The Spy has two main roles in competitive Team Fortress 2: Pick key members of the opposing team, such as their Demoman or Medic, and distract the enemy team to allow the Spy's own team to successfully push in. Both of these roles are performed more effectively by Spies than by Scouts during stalemates, where a highly alert team attacks at any opposition it sees. Spies playing in competitive games should try to avoid being seen, even when disguised, as a competitive team will keep track of its members and see right through any disguise. In addition, Spies should use the fact that they can see an the health of enemy players when disguised. Calling out enemies who are low on health and gunning down severely injured players with the Revolver can be very useful in breaking stalemates and helping the Spy's team make a successful push.

5-CP Push Strategies

If a team has the advantage but encounters a strong defense that stagnates the game, the team may choose that time to replace a Scout with a Spy. For the defending team that is turning the game into a stalemate, it may be best to keep both Utilities as classes that can actively contribute to the defense; Spies are far less capable of accomplishing this. A Spy's number one goal is to kill the enemy team's Medic. A successful pick will remove the enemy's source of health and can force a retreat if the Spy's team pushes. If the Medic is too well guarded, Spies are free to go for the team's Demoman, as he is also a very important contributor to the enemy's defense. Either of these picks will help the Spy's team push in and break the stalemate. Using s Spy at the beginning of a 5-CP map is highly impractical due to the Spy's inability to get to the mid point quickly and weakness to spam. If a team does choose to use a Spy at the mid fight, then the Spy will have to focus on eliminating the enemy Medic and Demoman while carefully avoiding the enemy Scouts and Soldiers at all costs. If a team encounters a stalemate in which both teams have a strong defense and neither team is able to push, a team may use a Spy to prevent the possibility of the enemy team using their ÜberCharge and breaking the stalemate first. By eliminating a key defender, a Spy can allow his own team to successfully push in and break the stalemate.

Attack-Defend Strategies

A defending team on an Attack/Defend map such as Gravel Pit will almost never switch out one of their Utility players for a Spy. This is due to the fact that a Spy cannot contribute to spam and help defend an area like other utilities can, and their role is reduced to backstabbing key targets, something that is already very difficult in a setting where players constantly turn around and check their backs. Spies on defending teams are thus generally not the best use of player slots. The attacking team may use a Spy instead of a Scout if a strong defense that may be assisted by a well-placed Sentry Gun needs to be disrupted, without the use of an Über. The Spy will attempt to eliminate the Sentry Gun or a key player, and distract the enemy team to allow his own team to break the enemy's defense without spending the time to build up an ÜberCharge.

Capture-the-Flag Strategies

Many teams will run an Engineer at the beginning of a round of Capture-the-flag. The Engineer and his Sentry Gun help stall the enemy team and prevent Scouts from taking and escaping with the Intelligence. For this reason, a team may want to use a Spy to sap and lock down the Sentry Gun while teammates rush in and destroy it, saving their Medic's ÜberCharge for a later conflict and allowing a team member to run off with the enemy intelligence and capture it. Aside from helping a team attack an enemy team's Engineer, Spies can also try to score picks on other key players and weaken the enemy defense that way, but their ineffectiveness in direct combat makes Spies poor defenders of the friendly intelligence.

See also