Talk:Festive weapons
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Light colors
Some weapons have team multicolored lights. The stickybomb launcher just has plain white lights. - Devozade 11:54, 16 December 2011 (PST)
- I think it has to do with whether the weapon is strange or not. My sticky launcher's weapon icon is multicoloured but the lights are white only (nanosheep_inc) 16:29, 16 December 2011 (PST)
- If we look in the model and it looks like it's supposed to be animated, we can probably conclude that there's some kind of error/mistake/bug. Can someone verify that the Festive Stickybomb Launcher is even allowed to be team-colored? All the others are. – fashnek (talk·c) 15:45, 17 December 2011 (PST)
- The deal with the white lights is probably due to the Sticky Launcher still being one of the original models that doesn't have support for RED/BLU. So if I had to guess Valve just went for the easy and made the light's white. --Org 01:23, 19 December 2011 (PST)
Requested Move
This article should really be simply titled "Festive", shouldn't it? It's basically an item quality, and the Vintage, Strange etc. articles aren't called "Vintage weapons", "Strange Weapons" are they? » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 14:51, 16 December 2011 (PST)
Agree Yep. Balladofwindfishes 14:51, 16 December 2011 (PST)
Note It's not a quality; there are Strange Festive Scatterguns, for example. Plus, this article is currently only about weapons, since they are currently the only possible Festive items. So I 
Disagree – Epic Eric (T | C) 14:55, 16 December 2011 (PST)
- Comment Strange quality applies only to weapons too. As for weapons which are both Festive and Strange - well, if an item could be both Vintage and Genuine, it wouldn't really effect how the Vintage and Genuine pages are set up, would it? » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 15:10, 16 December 2011 (PST)
- Disagree Not a quality, and it's an overloaded term. Festive weapons can have an article, but I don't think "Festive" should have an article unless it's a disambiguation article. I think the best solution is the current one. Festive redirects to Festive weapons, which has a hatnote for Festive crates. If there are future uses, that might warrant a disambig. page at Festive. – fashnek (talk·c) 15:41, 17 December 2011 (PST)
Alright, it appears that the Strange Festive weapons have a new set of ranks, entirely separate from the classical Strange ranks, so my argument no longer has any footing. Case closed. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 04:29, 18 December 2011 (PST)
Strange festive rank table started
I've taken the data from STS and the regular strange ranks table and made this:
| ID | Count | Name |
|---|---|---|
| 0 | 10 | (no rank) |
| 1 | 25 | Template:Dictionary/items/singular |
| 2 | 45 | Template:Dictionary/items/commodius |
| 3 | 70 | Template:Dictionary/items/kind-hearted |
| 4 | 100 | Friendly |
| 5 | 135 | Template:Dictionary/items/notably joyful |
| 6 | 175 | Template:Dictionary/items/cheery |
| 7 | 225 | Template:Dictionary/items/good-natured |
| 8 | 275 | Template:Dictionary/items/plentiful |
| 9 | 350 | Template:Dictionary/items/generous |
| 10 | 500 | Template:Dictionary/items/magnanimous |
| 11 | 750 | Template:Dictionary/items/gregarious |
| 12 | 999 | Template:Dictionary/items/bountiful |
| 13 | 1000 | Template:Dictionary/items/philantrophic |
| 14 | 1500 | Template:Dictionary/items/revered |
| 15 | 2500 | Merry |
| 16 | 5000 | Template:Dictionary/items/totally ungrinchlike |
| 17 | 7500 | Template:Dictionary/items/jolly old |
| 18 | 7616 | Saxton's Own |
Before including in the main article:
- STS only shows 18 ranks, so the counts are probably wrong. Rank 0 has an empty string.
- Rank zero's an empty string... I've put in a message (in English and Italian)
- All the dictionary stuff seems to be missing
--Bp 01:47, 18 December 2011 (PST)
- I seriously doubt that is what the ranks are. I think the ranks are the same... Davo 14:41, 21 December 2011 (PST)
- These are the "Spirit Of Giving" ranks. To confirm if they are related to Festively Strange/Strangely Festive items, we should simply ASK an owner of said item and see if the higher tier ranks match this. Sven 14:51, 21 December 2011 (PST)
- I swear I saw a Strange Festive Scattergun achieve Uncharitable rank on Saturday. I'll look around, see if I can obtain a strange Festive and rank it up... Davo 14:54, 21 December 2011 (PST)
- Well as we can see here, the Spirit of Giving's ranks are actually different... --Bp 17:26, 21 December 2011 (PST)
- These are the "Spirit Of Giving" ranks. To confirm if they are related to Festively Strange/Strangely Festive items, we should simply ASK an owner of said item and see if the higher tier ranks match this. Sven 14:51, 21 December 2011 (PST)
Nope Please see this image. BTW, I subst'd your template here because I've marked it for deletion. – fashnek (talk·c) 22:07, 21 December 2011 (PST)
The Bat
Alright there appears to be some back and forth about the bat. As far as I can tell the bat only shows up as Strange. I can't find any trace of a Unique one, except for some random data on TF2Stats, but since it's such a small number I don't exactly trust it. Is there a verifiable backpack link that shows a Unique Festive Bat? --Org 01:25, 19 December 2011 (PST)
- Drunken_F00l. The same people that have BMOC and Ebenezer are the ones that have non-Strange Festive Bat. – fashnek (talk·c) 10:09, 21 December 2011 (PST)
Confirmation that the Bat must be Strange
Ok, I contacted the support to ask if the fact that there were no Unique Festive Bats was a bug/glitch and got an answer. Here is a link to the answer.
Because I contacted the French support, I will put the translation here :
Me.
Thanks for the quick answer.
I already saw that answer on the Wiki, but no source affirm that the weapon must necessarily be Strange (this remains a suggestion from the members/players). It looks like a glitch, unless it's wanted by the developers.
Do you have any source? This would allow to complete the Wiki with a 100% reliable source. :)
Cordially,
Support.
Hello,
According to my sources, the weapon must be strange.
Feel free to contact us again if you have other questions.
Cordially,
So, according to the support, the Festive Bat MUST be Strange. It's not a glitch, nor a bug, it's a choice from the developers. :) — The preceding unsigned comment was added by DaTa (talk) • (contribs) 18:05, 21 December 2011
- Just keep in mind that just because they said it must be Strange does not mean it was an intentional choice rather than a mistake. – fashnek (talk·c) 10:13, 21 December 2011 (PST)
- Good enough for me to say that it can only be uncrated as Strange. The random unique ones out there due to however they showed up shouldn't keep the page from saying what is the normal case. A note about the unique may be appropriate though at the end of the page. --Org 14:31, 21 December 2011 (PST)
- On the Naughty crate description, the contents of the crate list all but the Bat twice. Probably not a coincidence. — C2Talon (c/t) 01:53, 23 December 2011 (PST)
- It seems the concensus is that this only exists for non Valve employees as a Strange Festive Bat, and that this should probably be noted on the page..but it hasnt been. The ONLY non-strange festive bat i could find was in Robin Walker's backpack At the moment the page says "Festive items are available in both Unique and Strange quality." which simply isnt true for the bat, it is not available in any real sense in Unique quality. So, ok to change what wording needs to be changed and finally make a note about the festive bat perhaps including a link to Robin's backpack? Govcon 13:07, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
- Not really necessary. Valve developers can drop anything they want for themselves, with any quality, level, attributes etc. See how the Origin of the item is a "Steam Purchase"? Since you can't "buy" it, it was probably handed out in an unusual way. That'd be the same thing as listing possible Vintage variants of items due to Steam Support bug in, let's say, Bill's Hat, Max's Head, Lubricus Lid etc. Just say that it can only be obtained in Strange quality and let it be. – Epic Eric (T | C) 13:12, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
- Just add an exception blurb. Simple. SS2R 13:15, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
- Not really necessary. Valve developers can drop anything they want for themselves, with any quality, level, attributes etc. See how the Origin of the item is a "Steam Purchase"? Since you can't "buy" it, it was probably handed out in an unusual way. That'd be the same thing as listing possible Vintage variants of items due to Steam Support bug in, let's say, Bill's Hat, Max's Head, Lubricus Lid etc. Just say that it can only be obtained in Strange quality and let it be. – Epic Eric (T | C) 13:12, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
- It seems the concensus is that this only exists for non Valve employees as a Strange Festive Bat, and that this should probably be noted on the page..but it hasnt been. The ONLY non-strange festive bat i could find was in Robin Walker's backpack At the moment the page says "Festive items are available in both Unique and Strange quality." which simply isnt true for the bat, it is not available in any real sense in Unique quality. So, ok to change what wording needs to be changed and finally make a note about the festive bat perhaps including a link to Robin's backpack? Govcon 13:07, 11 April 2012 (PDT)
- On the Naughty crate description, the contents of the crate list all but the Bat twice. Probably not a coincidence. — C2Talon (c/t) 01:53, 23 December 2011 (PST)
- Good enough for me to say that it can only be uncrated as Strange. The random unique ones out there due to however they showed up shouldn't keep the page from saying what is the normal case. A note about the unique may be appropriate though at the end of the page. --Org 14:31, 21 December 2011 (PST)
Festive Stickybomb Launcher "bug"
When viewed in certain backpack viewers, including Steam's built in viewer, the SLer's icon still uses the old multi-colored light icon. Would this be a bug we should list? Note this happens on Valve's own backpack viewer, so it's not a third party bug. Balladofwindfishes 06:40, 1 January 2012 (PST)
- Nothing to do with TF2; their cache simply hasn't updated. i-ghost 06:48, 1 January 2012 (PST)
- Alright Balladofwindfishes 06:52, 1 January 2012 (PST)
strange festive sandvich can't into counting
The use count for the Sandvich is really buggy. Instead of counting sandviches eaten, it seems to count how many increments your health goes up while eating. Seems to happen more on idle servers where your health is draining, might also count if bleeding, but I can't really test it. http://youtu.be/Q8wC-cj3SsU example here, it jumps up 10 uses after just eating one Redjarman 00:11, 21 December 2012 (PST)
- And then it got patched today, that was quick. Redjarman 11:13, 22 December 2012 (PST)
