Talk:Upgrade Station

Unused upgrade station music

Not 100% sure about it but it seems there's some unused music for the upgrade station in tf/sound/items/tf_music_upgrade_machine.wav Might want to add it to the page if it was intended for it. ErroR 03:40, 20 August 2012 (PDT)

Unfortunately, we don't know exactly where the sound will be used, if ever. Pity really, it's quite catchy.

Also, please add new topics to the bottom of talk pages. 03:49, 20 August 2012 (PDT)

Dang, sorry about that. Again. ErroR 08:08, 20 August 2012 (PDT)

suggestion: different organization

just a suggestion but here is how I might do the whole page it if I knew proper wiki syntax

CLASS-LESS UPGRADES

Stat	Levels	Cost/level
Health regen	2/4/6/8/10% of max hp	200
Crit resistance	25/50/75%	150

...

(exclude the metal regen one)

BASIC WEAPON UPGRADES

(divided into sections for each upgradable statistic, includes stats like damage or reload speed only)

DAMAGE

description of what upgrading this stat does, if it isn't obvious.

Levels	Cost/level
20/40/60/80%	500

INSERT BELOW a table like this, edited to include weapons this upgrade is available for

List of bullet-based hitscan weapons
Scout	Primary
		Scattergun	Force-A-Nature	Shortstop	Soda Popper	Baby Face's Blaster	Back Scatter
	Secondary
		Pistol	Lugermorph	Winger	Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol	C.A.P.P.E.R
Soldier	Secondary
		Shotgun	Reserve Shooter	Panic Attack
Pyro	Secondary
		Shotgun	Reserve Shooter	Panic Attack
Heavy	Primary
		Minigun	Natascha	Iron Curtain	Brass Beast	Tomislav	Huo-Long Heater
	Secondary
		Shotgun	Family Business	Panic Attack
Engineer	Primary
		Shotgun	Frontier Justice	Widowmaker	Panic Attack
	Secondary
		Pistol	Lugermorph	C.A.P.P.E.R
	Building
		Sentry Gun	Combat Mini-Sentry Gun
Sniper	Primary
		Sniper Rifle	Sydney Sleeper	Bazaar Bargain	Machina	Hitman's Heatmaker	AWPer Hand	Classic	Shooting Star
	Secondary
		SMG	Cleaner's Carbine
Spy	Secondary
		Revolver	Ambassador	Big Kill	L'Etranger	Enforcer	Diamondback

In this case there are two separate damage upgrades for explosives and for scout/sniper/pyro, so there could be a second set of tables for that.

...

CLIP SIZE

description

Levels	Cost/level
+ 2/4/6/8	400

(table of explosive weapons)

Levels	Cost/level
+ 50/100/150/200%	400

(table of clip weapons)

...

CLASS/WEAPON SPECIFIC UPGRADES

Here use a similar format but for upgrades like bullet penetration, destroy projectiles, medic & engineer upgrades, etc.

sorry if this is hard to read, did my best. not sure if it's the best solution, it may be better just to say "soldier primary" or "jarate" but I felt like it would be great to know which weapons you could use which upgrades on

Stripedy 02:44, 16 August 2012 (PDT)

Melee damage upgrade on demoknights

Demoknights can upgrade melee damage as long as you have a targe equipped. Proof: http://imgur.com/UtF1h Rocketscience 00:17, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

Requested move

It seems like it would be the more logical choice a user might search for when looking for MVM upgrades.

Likewise, the guidebook specifically mentions Upgrade Stations and there is yet to be a page detailing it.

03:26, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

• MOVE I don't see anything wrong with the idea, as long as the gameplay page is changed accordingly. WhosAsking 10:30, 17 August 2012 (PDT)
•  Yes Definitely! Upgrade Station flows much more naturally, too. Darkid (|) 14:12, 18 August 2012 (PDT)

Upgrade info on each weapon page

While its nice to have this one page to find info about upgrades, perhaps in addition to this it would be nice, and more convenient, to have upgrade info for each weapon on its specific page. I know that it doesn't 100% have to do with this page, but I figure I should ask before doing something so drastic. --Andodel 06:36, 17 August 2012 (PDT)

There's some discussion over here regarding design and implementation. 13:36, 21 August 2012 (PDT)

Heavy Primary penetration levels

If I'm not mistaken, for the miniguns, there are three levels of target penetration available, not one. --Itsacon 05:07, 20 August 2012 (PDT)

Banner Buff

Does it actually have an upgrade to cover the entire team, or just duration? In all my play-time, its only been in a short area, not in an area wide enough to do as the strategy page encourages and spread out, none the less an area wide enough to count as "everyone". Sinez 16:51, 21 August 2012 (PDT)

Yeah, I remember hearing something about an upgrade for the buff banner letting it apply to everyone, and I have yet to find such a thing. ==Fax Celestis _talkcontrib^home 17:38, 25 August 2012 (PDT)

Certain bugs I've posted and undos to them

Can someone please confirm these? I've written this up and posted it on the wiki, making sure to test them thoroughly before doing so, yet it has gotten undo'd without a real reason. I am completely confident these are real bugs, but I don't want to get into some undo war over this, so I'm putting it here to get more support.

Here is what I wrote: ______

• Upgrades can be bought and sold after leaving the station only during the first wave. Every other wave afterward will prevent you from selling upgrades had you left the station after making the purchase.
• By changing a weapon via load out before walking up to the upgrade station, then buying a single upgrade will prevent you from buying or selling any upgrades, including the one just bought.
  • In the case of the Chargin' Targe and Splendid Screen, using this glitch will remove all upgrades for them.
• The +25% Blast Resistance upgrade reduces self damage taken from rocket jumps and sticky jumps.

______

For the last one, the blast resistance is surely a bug, as the Chargin' Targe's blast damage resistance doesn't save you from some the Grenade Launcher's self damage. I hope this can be sorted out. Hummus 17:22, 25 August 2012 (PDT)

Doesn't it conflict? Please, repair it!

http://screenshooter.net/0536447/ctcctkq look, phlog can't make airblasts, can he, then why can we apply this bonus to him?