Talk:Engineer

Engineers needs more PDAs

The Engineer has a simple construction PDA, capable of building a sentry, a dispenser, a teleporter entrance, and a teleporter exit. This, although versatile, does become tedious after a while, and other classes (in particular Demoman/Demoknight) have many more functions.

Therefore, I propose this: new PDAs.
I have come up with three ideas:

Offense PDA
1. Sentry
2. Wrangler Controlled Sentry Buster
3. Mine
4. Mine

Doc Holiday PDA
1. Quick-Building Dispenser
2. Long-Range Dispenser
3. Teleporter Entrance
4. Teleporter Exit

Mobility PDA
1. Wrangler Controlled Mobile Sentry
2. Cannon (transports allies and disguised Spies forcefully over walls)
3. Two-way Teleporter "Entrance"
4. Two-way Teleporter "Exit"

I think these additions would improve the importance of the Engineer during games such as Arena and Medieval mode, and add a new dimension to the game.

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Southern Hospitality in chart

In the weapons chart, it notes correctly that the Southern Hospitality does not crit. But in the damage given, it still has crit as 195 damage. Remove that?{{SUBST:User:Cranberry Jerk/Sig}} 11:06, 19 July 2011 (PDT)

It can still be forced to crit, i.e. by the Buff Banner or the Kritzkreig. » Cooper Kid (Blether · Contreebs) 16:12, 19 July 2011 (PDT)

Good point.{{SUBST:User:Cranberry Jerk/Sig}} 15:00, 20 July 2011 (PDT)

Golden Wrench Image

That Golden Wrench image looks... very un-golden. Someone gunna fix it?--Kingplatypus3rd 22:17, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

GOLDEN WRENCH

Found in English:
"TF_HUD_Event_GoldenWrench_C" "%s1 has found Golden Wrench no. %s2!"
"TF_HUD_Event_GoldenWrench_D" "%s1 has destroyed Golden Wrench no. %s2!"

"150"
{
"name" "turn to gold"
"attribute_class" "set_turn_to_gold"
"attribute_name" "turns corpse to gold"
"min_value" "1"
"max_value" "1"
"description_string" "#Attrib_TurnToGold"
"description_format" "value_is_additive"
"hidden" "0"
"effect_type" "positive"
}

"TF_Unique_Golden_Wrench" "Golden Wrench" [$ENGLISH]

Golden Wrench

There's going to be a limited number of these things (going by the first line), so keep an eye out and post here if you find a secret link, don't post on the forums. -Firestorm 01:02, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

I really want one of these love playing as engie .. "The man with the golden wrench" -Pokeymehlljordan 12:38, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

In-game joke

His name is DELL.

Geddit? OllyTheMann 18:13, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Added to List_of_references_(Engineer), but I might have gotten it wrong >.>; — WindPower 18:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

3rd life sustaining system built for the Announcer?

It sort-of makes sense. If you assume that Emily the Maidservant is the announcer, Saxton Hale needs no such life support, and Blutarch and Redmond also have devices, then it would make sense that the Announcer is using life support. Either that, or the Engi built a time machine, and is keeping Zephaniah alive. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Michael (talk) • contribs)

It has since been proven that the third Mann brother, Gray, has the third life extender machine. Nice theory though. TheIgnorantMedic 02:29, 23 December 2012 (PST)

I wouldn't say its been proven. Anyway, please don't respond to thousand-year old speculation that really belongs here. There's no need. Thanks. --SilverHammer 02:34, 23 December 2012 (PST)

Guitar unlock?

Any theories? I doubt it's a melee, have you ever seen a guitar fix anything? Let alone a sentry? -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 09:29, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

most likely a buff Valve have a thing about minicrits--Markd 09:36, 7 July 2010 (UTC)\

Frontier Justice taunt. By now everyone knows this so this section could be removed. Pierow 06:03, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Ability to move buildings?

This was hidden somewhere on the update page. Significant? -- MistahFixIt 03:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Very significant, but still speculation at this point. Do not publish it on any article yet — WindPower 04:30, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Basic Strategy

Fix it. It's full of crap. Only supposed to be the actual tips in-game there. All strategy in the Engineer strategy page. -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 11:28, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

48 dps mini-sentry

48 seems to be the determined dps, rather than 32. Should be changed? Also, why is it 100-125 hp?

What? Fire rate is the same as a level 1, just with halved damage. Why isn't it 32 DPS? </totalconfusion> -The Neotank ( | Talk) 16:04, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Fire rate is NOT the same, it's 50% faster (Valve never told us though). see the video here --Firestorm   16:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Golden Wrench has wrong icon

The Golden Wrench icon is the same as the default wrench. I have no idea how to change it, I'm just pointing it out.

Tyc 00n 21:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

They are different. -- Smashman... _{(t • s)} 21:07, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

"Most unlockable weapons in the game"

er... how exactly is this calculated?

The Engineer has: Lugermorph, Golden Wrench, Frontier Justice, Wrangler, and Gunslinger. Of these, only four are common.

The Demoman has: Scottish Resistance, Chargin' Targe, Eyelander, Pain Train, and Scotman's Skullcutter.

Of all the above, neither the Wrangler or Chargin' Targe are strictly weapons... but even if we're counting them, only the Chargin' Targe directly does damage.

If you're counting the Combat Mini-Sentry separately... why? It's counted as a normal sentry gun by the game's internal stats and logging.

--Powerlord 22:02, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

You forgot the Southern Hospitality~ — Wind 22:03, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Sadly, I didn't remember that until afterwords, but you'd already replied before I got back here to remove that. --Powerlord 22:09, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Actually, all 4 sentries; Mini, and levels 1, 2 and 3; are counted separately by the internal logging. From memory, I beleive they are obj_minisentry, obj_sentry, obj_sentry2 and obj_sentry3. TheIgnorantMedic 02:33, 23 December 2012 (PST)

Curiouser and Curiouser

Fellow wiki-patrollers, lend me your ears. What do you know about an enigmatic weapon lurking in the .gcf files, known only as 'The JAG'? The only thing I can tell you is all the textures and models are accounted for, and that it looks like a 1950's gear-puller, as opposed to a wrench. -- MistahFixIt 16:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

We know this. -RJ 16:59, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Durp. TF2 Wiki's search engine must hate me, cuz I didn't get a single hit looking for it. Also, I doubt its in a Supply Crate, since a) it doesn't show up on the supply crate manifest, and b) it's not on the items_game.txt at all. -- MistahFixIt 17:03, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Wrong Dischord guitar sounds

See Talk:Engineer_taunts. --Superslinger2007 01:54, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Capitalization of "building"

Minor point. Sometimes, especially when linking to the page on buildings, the word is capitalized. Sometimes it is not. Seems to me it should not be capitalized. I was going to start changing them but I thought maybe I should say something about it first.

Melee weapon special abilities - really necessary?

Every single melee weapon of the Engineer has the ability to build, upgrade and repair buildings and remove Sappers. Do we really have to mention that again for every single weapon? I think it should be just mentioned once for all weapons. After all, the point of these tables is to demonstrate the advantages and disadvantages of different weapons, but all the engineer's weapons can do these things equally well, so there's no advantage or disadvante here. It just clutters up the table. Zoon-li 01:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Well, since no one has disagreed with this in over 3 months I guess I'll just go ahead and edit the section. Zoon-li 19:15, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Item Set

I was going to add the fact that the engineer is the only class without an item set after either the Mann-Co. Store and Australian Christmas updates but was unsure as to where in the page to add it. Anyone care to advise? Priorax 00:52, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry but that falls under the x of y style trivia set in the trivia guidelines. —Moussekateer·talk 00:58, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank's for the quick response, greatly appreciated. Priorax 01:03, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

new engie hat?

http://optf2.com/item/384 — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Snotyay (talk) • (contribs) 19:23, 7 April 2011

Bugs

Is the bug section really necessary? it's obvious the gloves are orange, so why is it a bug? Seems to me like an excuse to have bugs section in the article. Mpnov 13:19, 5 February 2012 (PST)

His gloves should be the same colour as his helmet - orange on RED, yellow on BLU. They always appear orange in first-person view. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 16:24, 5 February 2012 (PST)

Pomson electrical?

It says the pomson fires electrical projectiles, but I do not think that is true. The item is a 'particle smasher' and it 'irradiates', according to the item description in-game. It probably fires alpha or bèta rays. (radiation produced by certain radioactive isotopes, consisting of praticles rather than electromagnetic waves) I would have corrected it right away if I knew a better description myself... Any suggestions? I was thinking of particle beams, particle blasts, plasma, laser beams, energy beams, energy rays etc. K-Raider NL 03:51, 27 June 2012 (PDT)

Rewording Gallery Descriptions

I've decided to make a few minor edits to the wordings of a few gallery images. The wording of the description for the TFC Engineer image seemed a bit odd to me so I made it sound a bit simpler. Let me know if it could be improved upon further.

2560x1600at120hz 10:24, 16 December 2012 (PST)2560x1600at120hz

Primary Weapons Table Mistake

In the Primary Weapons Table, it lists the Rescue Ranger as an "Uncrate" when it should be labelled "Craft". I tried fixing it but I can't seem to get it to change.