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Issue i'm facing

Hello Gramps, I'm currently starting to make edits for AR pages(I'm aware that it's deprecated) but meh why not, ok so my issue is that I can't change some elements and names in edit page, it's visible in the original page but wherever i look in edit mode, I can't change it, looking forward to hear your reply.

Acceonit (talk) 23:34, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

It's likely a template that you're looking for? Anything in curly brackets {{ }} is a template. To find these, simply take the text in the brackets and put it after "wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Template:". For example, {{Painted variants}} would be on wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Template:Painted variants.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 23:43, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

Also note that for Arabian pages, only existing translations should be edited. No new ones or anything.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 00:34, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

I understand Acceonit (talk) 15:12, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

One last question, regard what you said: 'no new ones or anything', will that apply for crucial pages like unique, strange, critical etc.? Acceonit (talk) 15:30, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, no new ones at all.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 15:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

One one last question hehe, sorry, will changing red links with english ones will be okay? Acceonit (talk) 15:50, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ You can ask as many questions as you like. Links should be to Arabic pages, but it may be better to not have a link if the page doesn't exist.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 15:52, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Will do, Thanks Acceonit (talk) 16:32, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

I guess I have to bother you more... sorry, so I noticed few things, most titles and statements are stored in a template, that's great, I can edit that but which one? and how can I know it's the original? for example, `السكاوت`, this how can I edit the original template of the Scout's AR Name?, another matter is translations.. for example Soldier in Arabic is الجندي but I have no clue.. why in someone's mindset to add it as صولجر, it makes no sense in arabic, i guess transliteration? ok but why? for foreign understanding? or just bad translation? can't really ask current ar translators, most of them appear to be 'dead'

Acceonit (talk) 22:01, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Those translations are stored in the {{Dictionary}}. As for the Soldier translation, I don't speak Arabic so I can't tell you.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 00:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

I wonder if this template I just made would be useful

Hello. I made {{UberCharge Cart}} template, and I want to know if it would be useful.

These are couple reasons I made this:

• The information on Payload about being able to/not to push/block the cart while ubercharged by different mediguns is wrong, so I needed to fix it.
• It CAN be described all in texts, but I thought it would take up unnecessarily large amount of space, but this template could save time and space at the same time for me and others.

Since I don't use IRC channel, and because I don't know any other staffs/mods, I want to know what your/others opinions are about the template, if it's unnecessary, and if there can be anything else to improve it.

Nihil ( Talk | Contributions ) 15:56, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Also, describing all the informations in texts would be harder to see it by glance (which means it would need a lot more effort to read all texts) and understand it than describing all of them with the template.

"Intuition" is a key-word, I guess. I really hope to see any feedback from you and others.

Nihil ( Talk | Contributions ) 16:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Seems good, but I'll make some minor changes first. Preferably, these should be made on userspace before being moved to main unless it's a pre-existing table.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 17:00, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Projectile Shield Cleanup

Hey Grampa, I've been working on fixing up the Projectile Shield strategy page to bring it up to Wiki standards and was hoping if you could let me know if it's goin alright as of right now? It's at User:Payn/ProjectileShieldCleanup. Please be brutally honest with your feedback, I want to make it as good as it could possibly be, as it is still a W.I.P. Payn (talk) 06:56, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

I would remove the Medic section in the class-specific strategy, and merge it with the general strategy, or remove the general strategy and merge it with the class-specific section. I also wouldn't put the Medic section at the top of the class-specific list, but rather at the usual placement. As for content-specific stuff, I'll have to go over it 1-by-1 to see if they're useful or not. You'll have to give me permission either here or using {{AllowedEditors}} on the page.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 19:20, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

alright, understood. thanks grampa Payn (talk) 22:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

You have permission to edit now, I'll work on re-ordering everything. Thanks again, Grampa. Payn (talk) 23:09, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

I went over the whole page, should be fine now. Feel free to move it over if you have no more changes.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 13:49, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Mannpower Powerups template

Hi. I'm working on making a template for mannpower's powerups. The link is User:Nihil/Template:Mannpower powerups.
Main purpose is to make it easier to translate/edit powerup table, and to make the list on Mannpower section on List of game modes shorter and easier to read.
I gave you permission to edit just in case if you see anything to fix/improve (I think language transition part might not be right). It would be glad to get any feedback from you.

Also, is it possible to make this table a bit smaller when used on other pages? I think this table itself is enough for Mannpower page, but would be too big for List of game modes page.
Should I make another template to shrink it, or should I make it collapsible? Or maybe there can be other ways to make it fit for the page. I don't know what would be the best, or at least a better way.

I'm greatly thankful for your helps and advices, as always.
Nihil ( Talk | Contributions ) 06:50, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Looks good to me. I would recommend either putting all the available translations in there already, or just not replacing them on pages that don't have support on the template yet. Otherwise, I fixed the translation switching template and commented it out (it adds a category by default).
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 14:49, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

Questions about korean localizations for {{other uses}} template

Hello.

I've been using {{other uses}} template, and I have always wondered if there's any way to change the order of the parameter texts and the non-parameter texts.

It is really hard to explain to foreign people how Korean works even with examples, but here's an example:

If I use {{other uses|this=(text 1)|for=(text 2)|(text 3)}} on korean pages, it currently shows "이 문서는 다음에 관한 것입니다: (text 1), 혹시 이 문서를 찾고 계신다면: (text 2), 이 곳에서 볼 수 있습니다: (text 3)", which is not quite right (believe me).

The order should rather be "이 문서는 (text 1)에 대한 것입니다. 혹시 (text 2) 문서를 찾고 계신다면, (text 3)에서 볼 수 있습니다". You can see the parameter texts should be inside the non-parameter texts. ^{Yes, I know you probably won't even understand why it is not quite right}

tl;dr: I wonder if you, or people you know, know how to change the order of texts and parameters in the template specifically for korean, or if I should make another template for this.

I think making another template is easier than finding out how to change the order, but I wanted to ask you before doing anything.

Nihil ( Talk | Contributions ) 04:51, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

I believe some other languages had this problem too. Simply replace this template with {{Hatnote}} and write them out manually each time. It's unfortunate, but without changing up the whole template we can't do much about this. I'll see if I can do smth about it at some point.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 12:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello!

I would love it if you would join our group! We are currently trying to expand our group, and you're our next choice!

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