Talk:Perks

Voting music

The music that plays during voting time is the Upgrade Station music that went unused up until now. I feel like this is worth noting in the article, but I am not sure where (Trivia? Notes?) and how to word it.

It think it should also be noted in the Team Fortress 2 Official Soundtrack article that it is now used in this map. - BrazilianNut (talk) 09:36, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

Image for perks

Is it necessary to add image for every perk icon? someone request me to make those image and I'm not sure if it's needed Profiteer（奸商）the tryhard (talk) 02:05, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes, would be nice. A table can be made for it similar to Mannpower.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 02:17, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Got it
Profiteer（奸商）the tryhard (talk) 02:20, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

Conversion bleed

I tested what happens in normal tf2 under similar circumstances. If someone is mini-crit boosted and hits someone covered in gas, the afterburn is mini-crit boosted as well. If you are mini-crit boosted with the Bushwacka and hit someone coated in gas, the afterburn is not mini-crit or crit boosted, it's just normal afterburn. Additionally, bleed and afterburn normally cannot crit in tf2, so I think it is worth mentioning it can in this map, as that deviates from how tf2 standardly operates. The imgur link works for me, try again or something. https://i.imgur.com/blVcvmR.mp4 Cheezcracker (talk) 08:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

Assuming you mean that the person coated in gas is also coated in Jarate, this seems like a bug with the Gas Passer, as it should give Mini-Crit afterburn. I don't see much of a reason to mention that they can crit here, because we can list a ton of stuff that works in this map in the Notes section if we're going to note this. It's expected that everything that Mini-Crits will turn into Crits, including bleed/afterburn. Please also make sure your Imgur links are public and have completely uploaded before making the edit as it gave a 404 before.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 09:01, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

In Perks, hitting someone with a mini-crit boosted bleed/afterburn weapon with the conversion perk selected causes the afterburn and bleed to be crit boosted, in standard tf2, being crit boosted and doing the same thing results in the afterburn and bleed being unaffected. If you hit someone covered in gas with any weapon while mini-crit boosted (the buff banner), the afterburn will be mini-crit boosted. Doing the same with the bushwacka, a weapon that has what is effectively the conversion perk as a stat on it, does NOT cause critical afterburn, while doing the same thing in perks but with the kukri and conversion perk would cause critical afterburn, when it would logically be the same. The reason to mention it can crit is because bleed and afterburn do not normally have the ability to crit. I did check if the imgur link was public, I upload it anonymously on one browser then check if it works on another browser. Cheezcracker (talk) 14:21, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

This simply means that being crit-boosted doesn't boost DoT effects. The Bushwacka not causing Crit afterburn when using the Gas Passer is not an expected part of the weapon as it doesn't cause afterburn in itself, therefore the afterburn damage is not part of the Bushwacka. Like I said, mentioning it here just means you're saying "This perk works as intended" which is not something we should do.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 16:07, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

"Afterburn damage cannot crit" - Fire. "Although bleeding cannot crit on its own" - Bleeding. In perks, these two things are not true, and I think it should be mentioned. Cheezcracker (talk) 17:38, 8 March 2024 (UTC)