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| − | This is unreleased content, it can't have it's own page. {{unsigned|TheScoot}}
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| − | : Please remember to sign your posts with 4 tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> --[[User:Picard|Picard]] {{loc|de}} 14:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Well, it was not KritzKast first. First was [http://www.pcgamer.com/2010/08/19/interview-valve-on-the-future-of-team-fortress-2/ PC Gamer's interview]. [[User:Holek|Holek]] 20:05, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :AHA! I knew I'd heard it somewhere else first.--[[User:Focusknock|Focusknock]] 20:06, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :But they didn't mention it was open. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 20:07, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Yes, they did:
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| − | :::''PC Gamer: Are there any class updates that you’ve done that you feel you need to revisit?''
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| − | :::''Robin Walker:'' (...) ''There are systems in the game that are tuned to specific numbers. The amount of damage the sniper rifle does fully charged, for instance. On a headshot it’s specifically tuned to the health of the other class, so there would be damage numbers we’d need to change. It’s hard for us to run that test and get good data, so, '''we’re probably going to gear up the TF2 public beta again soon and make it publicly available to everyone who owns TF.''' We’ll start running some more wide scale experiments there.''
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| − | ::[[User:Holek|Holek]] 20:11, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::::/me fails D: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] {{adm}} 20:26, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | hey its ep 82 not 88 {{unsigned|Madsser}}
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| − | Any reason the link to KK keeps getting deleted? If it's a case of not being able to qualify our source, well that's something we're not prepared to do. We promised annominity to He/She/It. But we will be proven correct on it [[User:Agro|Agro]] 22:27, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : As far as I heard on the Podcast, it was just "very soon". We can't really put something here that isn't verifiable, so "soon" will have to suffice until any further announcement about a launch date. Not saying you're wrong, and not trying to be difficult, just that if it's not verifiable, it can't really pass as wiki content. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#FF8C00;font-weight:bold">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] 22:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: You can leave the [[KritzKast]] link there, but the episode didn't disclose a launch date. -- [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#FF8C00;font-weight:bold">Nineaxis</span>]] {{mod}} [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] 22:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::That's very kind of you, but yes, there was a mention of time scale towards the back of the episode, time stamp 38:15, "It's going to happen this week, basically, by the sounds of things"[[User:Agro|Agro]] 22:36, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | Soon. Well, I suppose that the Open Beta's release date is farther than October 18, 2010, according to Valve Time. [[User:AbeX300|AbeX300]] 03:54, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Trivia ==
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| − | Wouldn't the fact that Counter-Strike Source has an open beta be good trivia for the section? It shows that the TF2 beta wasn't first, and that Valve has done an open beta before.
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| − | --[[User:Stevoisiak|Stevoisiak]] 20:24, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :Honestly, I don't think we need to note whether it's the first, second, third or fourth open beta. For the same reason we don't document that some hat is the 20th hat added to the game.-[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]] 20:35, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::It's more the fact that alot of people may think the Beta is a new idea that hasn't been done by valve before, even though there is another ongoing beta. --[[User:Stevoisiak|Stevoisiak]] 20:41, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | It's uninteresting. {{n}}[[User:Smashman|<span class="bur">Smashman</span>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> {{bur}} 20:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :It's not relevant to the article. So, no. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] {{bur}} <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 21:42, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Even if they think the TF2 beta was the first, that.. doesn't really affect anything if you get what I mean. Sure, it's nice information but sooner or later, a CS:S fan is going to point it out.
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| − | == WebAPI ==
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| − | There's an unannounced [[WebAPI]] for the beta (replace iTFItems_440 with iTFItems_520). Apparently there are now 3 Natascha variants: "Natascha", "Natascha Variant 1" and "Natascha Variant 2" - quite creative names. Additionally, I wonder if crafting and such is still enabled. [[User:Netshroud|Netshroud]] 01:04, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=4721 {{quotation|What's in the initial release? ''Three Natascha variants:''}} — [[File:User Nineaxis sig duck.png|12px]] [[User:Nineaxis|<span style="color:#70B04A;font-size:13px;font-family:
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| − | 'TF2 Build';text-shadow:#e3e3e3 1px 1px 0px;">Nineaxis</span>]] <span style="font-size:10px">([[User talk:Nineaxis|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nineaxis|contribs]])</span> 01:06, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: I know, I was just pointing out the names. [[User:Netshroud|Netshroud]] 01:19, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::How do you choose which to use?--[[User:Jordan|Jordan]] 01:50, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::: If you're talking about the weapons, look at the attributes or flip a coin. [[User:Netshroud|Netshroud]] 01:54, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::I Meant more like how do you select a different one. Is there three in the backpack?--[[User:Jordan|Jordan]] 02:20, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :::::: Yes, you get 3 different [[Natascha]]s. [[User:Netshroud|Netshroud]] 04:23, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :I tried crafting and crafted a Rocket Jumper, a Backburner and a Huntsman. So you can craft stuff that are not in the initial backpack. [[User:BarnabasHale|BarnabasHale]] 13:44, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Changelog ==
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| − | Any plans to set up a changelog? We have some basic info on the three Natascha variants and on 5CP Gorge so we could start while we are ahead. [[User:Sentry|Sentry]] 01:07, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Totally unnecessary but kinda cool change suggestion ==
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| − | Make the background the same as the Engineer backgrounds with the wrench icon. -[[User:KazooieBanjo|KazooieBanjo]] 01:56, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Page of all items available in the Beta? ==
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| − | Should we have a page of all the items that are available in the Beta? -[[User:KazooieBanjo|KazooieBanjo]] 03:12, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : I think it is a good idea, the page will be huge if we put all the beta weapons here. Even if there is currently only 3 variants, it is something to take in consideration. [[User:Octocat|Octocat]] 09:35, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | : We shall work out out when we come to it. For the moment, the page is an OK size so we don't have to worry about it. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 09:37, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Yeap. For now, no need to fiddle around with styles so long as the current one is effective. [[User:StarYoshi|StarYoshi]] 20:38, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Obvious things? ==
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| − | It says the player gets "all promotional items their account should have". Are the Parasite and the Poker Night items not promotional items or why do they get mentioned seperately?
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| − | Same goes for "the complete Saharan Spy pack (including the Familiar Fez)". Is there a something I miss? For me it sounds like "Get all numbers from 1 to 9 (including 4).
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| − | [[User:Gamer 7601|Gamer 7601]] 08:43, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :That's a good point. I'll clear that up. -- [[User:Pilk|Pilk]] <sub>([[User talk:Pilk|talk]])</sub> 08:44, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Patch Pages ==
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| − | I believe there should be patch pages for the TF2 Beta similar to those seem for the official TF2. I know some people would be interested to check them here for some extra info of what Valve is planning or whatever. --[[User:EpicEric|EpicEric]] 00:33, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | EDIT: By the way, [http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1629850 here's the official log of the updates.] --[[User:EpicEric|EpicEric]] 01:41, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Support}} That's my own idea, why wouldn't I support it? --[[User:EpicEric|EpicEric]] 00:34, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: {{c|Support}} Of course. [[User:Fendermcbender|Fendermcbender]] 01:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Support}} Makes sense. -[[User:KazooieBanjo|KazooieBanjo]] 07:58, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Support}} Agreed. [[User:Netshroud|Netshroud]] 11:12, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Support}} A good idea gets my support [[User:StarYoshi|StarYoshi]] 15:25, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Support}} I'm all for it. [[User:Magic Magician|Magic Magician]] 16:02, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Support}} Yup, we need this. [[User:Octocat|Octocat]] 16:10, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::{{c|Done}} – [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 17:37, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | * I've started [[Patches (Beta)]] for a place for the patches themselves to be listed. Considering how minor beta patches may be (or how few of them there will be, we don't know), I don't think it's a good idea to have each one listed on a separate page like we do for TF2 patches. Having them all on the one page will be far easier. In the event that beta patches become a lot more frequent, we do always have the option to move them off into separate pages again. [[User:Seb26|<font color="#000">'''seb26'''</font>]] [[User talk:Seb26|<span style="font-size:95%; color:#EA6B1C;">[talk]</span>]] 20:08, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Beta Update Log/Change Log ==
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| − | So there's an official beta update history thread on SPUF located here: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1629850
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| − | I was wondering how we're going to incorporate that, if we plan on it? [[User:Fendermcbender|Fendermcbender]] 01:06, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :See section above, will you? --[[User:EpicEric|EpicEric]] 01:41, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :: Oh gosh, sorry. I'm blind. [[User:Fendermcbender|Fendermcbender]] 01:43, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Rename Changes Section ==
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| − | Should the Changes Section be renamed to "Current Changes", or something like that? Because as it's stated right now, it seems like it should be for all changes ever, which would get messy really quick. --[[User:Heytherejake|Heytherejake]]
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| − | == Bugs ==
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| − | Are we going to continue to keep a log of all the bugs? If so, it's out-of-date with the SPUF sticky. [[User:Netshroud|Netshroud]] 11:14, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | ::Idk, let's go with the flow for now, if we need it, we'll make one. --[[User:EvilDeadFan|<font color="blue"><tt><big><u>'''EvilDeadFan'''</u></big></tt></font>]] [[Image:Pyro Blue Big.jpg|15px]] 17:16, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | == Beta patches on {{tl|Latest updates}} ==
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| − | Anyone think this is a good idea? My thoughts were have them a smaller font than blog and main patches, so that those interested can see them easily. – [[User:Smashman|<font color=#507D2A>Smashman</font>]]<sub> ([[User_talk:Smashman|talk]])</sub> 17:49, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|+|Sure}}: I really don't see why not. -[[User:The Neotank|<font color="#507D2A">'''The Neotank'''</font>]] ({{sta}}<small> | [[User talk:The Neotank|Talk]]</small>) [[File:User The Neotank Signeotank.gif]] 18:10, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Support}} Since it's in the beta, it's not as important as regular updates, so a smaller font would make differing between the two easier. [[User:Sonic Nova|Sonic Nova]] 13:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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| − | :{{c|Support}} Good suggestion. I'm in favor of its implementation. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 20:50, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
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