User talk:Denied

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Translation request

Hello, you're an active Polish translator, that's really great to see!

I've got some small work to do (I'm cleaning up Category:Articles needing images), if you would update those pages that would greatly help me:

• Hammer unit/pl - needs to be updated based on the current English version Hammer unit. You can then also remove {{stub}} and {{needimage}}.
• Snack Attack/pl#Galeria - missing gallery pics need to be added. After that, please remove the {{needimage}} template.

Thank you very much in advance! — shots fired by: Nikno {Talk|Contribs} 15:00, 6 April 2016 (PDT)

Updated. Thanks Denied (Talk) 13:33, 13 April 2016 (PDT)

Mój błąd i STS

Zgodzę się co do "założyć", faktycznie słowniki nie notują użyć tego słowa w połączeniu z jakimkolwiek elementem ubioru – mój błąd, bywa, nikt nie jest idealny. A wracając do sprawy z nazwami przedmiotów: te, które zdarza mi się umieszczać – mimo ich braku w grze – są tymi, które zostały już przez nas przetłumaczone na STS i zaakceptowane, więc ich pojawienie się jest tylko kwestią czasu, także ja osobiście nie widzę nic złego w moim postępowaniu, zwłaszcza że niejednokrotnie mija po kilka tygodni, zanim Valve postanowi zaktualizować pliki lokalizacyjne o elementy już przetłumaczone na STS.

PS Zachęcam do dołączenia do nas na STS, jeżeli jeszcze Cię tam nie ma, a ponieważ zbliżają się wakacje, jak zwykle liczba aktywnych tłumaczy zapewne drastycznie zmaleje. Laserman (talk) 10:04, 2 June 2016 (PDT)

Właśnie ogarnąłem, że to tłumaczenie było identyczne z tym ostatnio wydanym. Po prostu kierowałem się tym z aktualizacji. Nie bij ;-; Denied (Talk) 10:47, 2 June 2016 (PDT)

Your report regarding "gift" and "trade parameters on Lugermorph/pl

Hey Dan,

I fixed the text in the above named paramters not being localized for all languages. The only thing you now need to do is add your translation to the string here (the string is the very last one, "if obtained through").

Thanks for the report! — shots fired by: Nikno {Talk | Contribs} 01:06, 15 August 2016 (PDT)

Thanks for that Denied (Talk) 04:58, 15 August 2016 (PDT)

Poznaj Wroga Swego

Nie zauważyłem, że oficjalna nazwa aktualizacji się zmieniła. Jak tylko znajdę chwilę poprawię błędną nazwę w swoich tłumaczeniach. McRela 05:22, 20 August 2016 (PDT)

Sam szukałem oficjalnej wersji na STS, ale nie znalazłem na początku. Znalazłem ją wczoraj i już zmienił wszystko. Jedynie zmieniło się "Mann kontra Maszyny" na "Mann vs Maszyny", ze zwględu na "wychodzenie" tekstu poza ramkę. Tutaj masz moją ostatnią rozmowę z moderatorem STS na temat mojej sugestii użytej na wiki. Wybacz za dodatkową pracę.

RockeT: 1: mało miejsca

RockeT: 2: zgadza się

RockeT: 3: dosłownie tłumaczysz idiom

RockeT: ...do tego właśnie to tłumaczenie "nie ma sensu"

RockeT: jakby nie trzeba było kombinować, to byłaby lepsza nazwa :P

RockeT: bo propozycji mieliśmy kilka

RockeT: nie pamiętam już w sumie żadnej, ale wybraliśmy to co teraz bo raz, że mniej lub bardziej pasowało, a dwa (ważniejsze) mieściło się na ekranie Denied (Talk) 06:14, 20 August 2016 (PDT)

(More or less) lone warrior :)

Wikichievement	Awarded by	Reason
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— shots fired by: Nikno {Talk | Contribs} 04:19, 29 October 2016 (PDT)

Cześć

Witaj i przepraszam za moje notoryczne błędy w tłumaczeniu. Nadal się uczę. Jeżeli masz dla mnie jakieś rady lub uwagi to z chęcią je wysłucham. Mikro KR (talk) 09:57, 21 November 2016 (PST)

Mówisz mi wybaczyć, ale jestem tym typem, który musi wszystko mieć zrobione osobiście. :P A w sprawach tłumaczeń lepiej rozmawia się na prywatnym czacie. Denied (Talk) 11:07, 21 November 2016 (PST)

Minor edits

If you will edit a page with a minor edit, please mark it as "Minor" on the final of the page.
[14:52] <@Spacenet> [RC] - Beastly Bonnet/pl by Danio19978 - https://wiki.tf/d/2241715 (0) (17:52:34) [Via Leetle]
[14:52] <@Spacenet> [RC] - Centurion/pl by Danio19978 - https://wiki.tf/d/2241717 (0) (17:52:37) [Via Leetle]
[14:52] <@Spacenet> [RC] - Cheet Sheet/pl by Danio19978 - https://wiki.tf/d/2241716 (-11) (17:52:35) [Via Leetle]
[14:52] <@Spacenet> [RC] - Tartan Shade/pl by Danio19978 - https://wiki.tf/d/2241718 (-17) (17:52:25) [Via Leetle]
[14:52] <@Spacenet> [RC] - Steel Sixpack/pl by Danio19978 - https://wiki.tf/d/2241719 (0) (17:52:40) [Via Leetle]
[14:52] <@Spacenet> [RC] - Tartantaloons/pl by Danio19978 - https://wiki.tf/d/2241720 (+4) (17:52:39) [Via Leetle]
[14:53] <@Spacenet> [RC] - Hardy Laurel/pl by Danio19978 - https://wiki.tf/d/2241721 (-23) (17:53:48) [Via Leetle]
(all are minor edits)
P3rkzitos (talk) 10:56, 28 April 2017 (PDT)

Yeah sorry about that. I always forget about it. I'll remember now. Denied (Talk) 10:33, 29 April 2017 (PDT)

Removing {{item link}} and {{item name}}

Hey, just wanted to ask why you were replacing these templates with hard coded strings ([1] [2] -- it makes things harder in case names change, or for english-speaking editors like me to make cross-language changes. Darkid « Talk — Contribs » 07:12, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

In Polish, we change some words and the changes you gave me result from the fact that these sentences were poorly translated. I hope you understood because it's difficult to explain it to a person who does not use Polish language. Denied (Talk) 15:40, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm not certain I understand what the issue is -- bad translations obviously should be fixed, but unless the word "Shortstop" ever translates to something other than "Wstrzymywaczem", then there's nothing wrong with using {{item name}}. Darkid « Talk — Contribs » 02:03, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm always using {{item name}} and {{update link}} if it's possible but in the changes I made it's not. Everything about these changes should be here. Denied (Talk) 09:40, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

IP block

Your IP should be unblocked now. Sorry about that. — Wind 19:59, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

About the edit you reverted

Hi! You recently reverted my edit on the Veterans Attire page. The images have all been uploaded, some of them are missing because of the slow cache system, but I guess I'm going to keep the notice there until they all have shown up on the page. VasyaTheWizard 08:11, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah I already noticed that. Every time I refreshed the page new images were appearing or other were disappearing. Strange. Denied (Talk) 12:43, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks :)

Just wanted to say thanks, I accidentally deleted the category on the backpack page and you fixed super fast!!! Also I hope this is how you use a Talk Page I'm pretty new and It feels kinda weird editing a page to talk hopefully I'm not screwing anything up. Digdugpacman (talk) 21:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Looks fine for the first time. Denied (Talk) 18:14, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Mniejsze edity też należy docenić!

Wikichievement	Awarded by	Reason
It's the Little Things... Provide a large amount of edits whose primary goals are to correct grammar, punctuation, etc.	Goodjob	Wikichievement unlocked! Poprawiasz różne błędy, usprawniasz tłumaczenia i do tego jesteś aktywny. Należy to docenić!

Question.

Hey. I noticed on your Sole Saviors edit that you've removed the original Steam Workshop name. I'd like to know if we are doing some sort of project in removing the original names from the pages, or was the removal for another reason? I can help removing original names throughout all the cosmetic pages if you need help. ▪ - 16:09, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Currently I'm updating all cosmetic items for /pl but also visiting /en to see if something must be checked. If you want to remove all go on but that's a lot of work. Like removing trivia about non-official sets. Denied (Talk) 17:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I can help. I just wanted to confirm it first beforehand. Goodbye "Insulated innovator: V wow this keeps happening". After I'm done with /en, I might also do for /pt-br. ▪ - 18:43, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Talk pages

Hi, Danio. Please don't mark (unedited) talk pages of blocked users for deletion, it is not necessary. Thanks~ — Tark lm(pt-br) 16:21, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks for letting me know. Denied (Talk) 18:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Steam ID changes

In theory, the changes you're doing should work, but if you look at the edit history of the Steam ID bot crawl, you'll find that the bot hasn't actually added any new IDs at all since last July. We've only been adding nicknames and stuff since for the last almost a year, that's been the only way to get pages to look correct. ThatHatGuy (talk)

Oh. Will the bot work ever again? Denied (Talk) 18:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

About the change on Weight Room Warmer

Uh, I don't know, but the little quote was so charming on Weight Room Warmer, why replacing with the publicity blurb? If there's something, I highly prefer silly quotes than the workshop blurb. - ▪ - 18:56, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

I was always prioritising publicity blurb as it's a note from the creator(s), but if they never left any I'm always adding some quote. Denied (Talk)

It is kind of a weak point using anything from the Workshop, but we sort of have made exceptions for use in the quote. We have discussed this, but haven't made an explicit position in Help:Style guide/Quotes. Some Workshop blurbs are wonderful, some are terrible grammar, but if it is from the Workshop, it is not released. M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (Help Wanted!) 01:47, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the Triva section of the Widowmaker page

Hello, I'm the person that added the bit of trivia about the missing foregrip on the TF2 Widowmaker, and I noticed you removed it. To my knowledge, it fits with the wiki's trivia style guide, so I was wondering if I could add it back and/or have an explanation to why it was removed? Thanks in advance.

HitlineMiamo (talk) 11:24, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

Judging from the trivia itself, it wasn't very noteworthy. Trivia is supposed to make you say "Wow! I did not know that!", but your trivia was more like "Eh, who cares?"
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:40, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

That's fair. HitlineMiamo (talk) 12:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

As someone who previously worked for consistency on pages...

...I say, good job on your small edits to keep things consistent. That's all. Good luck on your cap nomination. - ▪ - 19:40, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

So good that TidB already mentioned me. Shi- Denied (Talk) 07:35, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Those "marketable"s in infoboxes

Hello Danio,I noticed you added "marketable = yes" to many pages,and I am adding them to Chinese pages as well. But I don't know at which page can I translate "View listings on the Steam Community Market" into Chinese.

Could you help me?

Dereko (talk) 09:33, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

It's right here. Ctrl + F and type "Community Market". Denied (Talk) 10:25, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Many thanks! Dereko (talk) 10:57, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

About the Dancing Doe image

Hello, Denied,

I can understand if you're upset at me replacing the image you had for the Dancing Doe, but you have to understand that I put time and effort into at least making the icon I made for it fit a bit more. After looking at your image closely, I can see it's a screenshot from loadout.tf that you airbrushed. I am just trying to add an image that more accurately fits the style of the images seen on most items on the TF2 wiki. Sorry if you're upset about the image not being well received, but a screenshot from a fansite doesn't really fit. Sorry.

ItsameWario48 (talk) 20:02, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

1. It's not my image (it looks very bad).

2. I already told you to upload a new version instead of changing the file's name. Denied (Talk) 21:48, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

owo what's this

Welcome to the sparkle club. - ▪ - 01:40, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

🎉🎉🎉 Ｓｈｉｎｙ Ｈａｔ ｉｓ ｈｅｒｅ 🎉🎉🎉 VasyaTheWizard ^{(talk) • (contributions)} 10:22, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

a { TidB | t | c } 10:28, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

hhhhhhh
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:00, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, we've run out of caps Gratz on your new sparkly headwear!  Wookipan (talk | contribs) 12:36, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

No more caps left, all you'll get is a Wiki. VasyaTheWizard ^{(talk) • (contributions)} 12:37, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Nice FiatSeicento 17:08, 24 August 2019 (UTC)FiatSeicento

Thank you all. Denied (Talk) 12:31, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

～Ｃ Λ ＰＤＲＯＰ～ — Wind 23:43, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

(Your group invites are set to invite-only, and the wiki cap Steam group is also invite-only, so please accept my friend request so I can send you an invite to the group) — Wind 23:45, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Dan! Dan! Ham!, congrats on shiny stuff 'w' Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 00:09, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Congrats on the newly obtained sparkles ClockworkSpirit2343 04:30, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Congratulations, finally! I apologize for the lazy staff. — shots fired by: Nikno {Talk | Contribs} 08:53, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

What's this?! A social gathering of internet people congratulating a man for a shiny cap woefully underpopulated by bees? My messages full of bees should put a stop to this! B B B B B B B B B B B B B. For real doe, congrats men, well deserved :> Hope you'll stay with us. Faghetti V.2 (talk) 09:18, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

Avail: Promotional Expired Codes?

I see you added a new string to the page for the TF2VRH earlier last month, but it doesn't seem to have a string defined in the availability module, resulting in a giant block of red text. Have you set a string in the module for promotional-expired-codes to call back to? If so, it isn't displaying correctly. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 06:50, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Looks like something is wrong. Can you look at it? Denied (Talk) 09:37, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

So what's going on is, you've added the dictionary string, but because you linked it through the availability template, it's trying to read the string off the Availability module, and it's not in there. You'll need Darkid's help to get it in there; but for the time being, I've directly linked to the string on the page. It will display the same way when it's properly implemented into the module, but it should be implemented into the module at some point, if we're to use it going forward as an availability string. -ThatHatGuy (talk) 09:58, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Done. — Tark lm(pt-br) 13:09, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

About your edit on the "Gun Mettle Update" removal.

So.. I checked your edit, and it makes sense why you've removed it, they were added in a later patch. However, almost all of the Items from the Gun Mettle Update Nav has the "(Gun Mettle Update)" on each item's "released" section, as well for the fact that the Nav itself is showing the cosmetics which, by following your edit, shouldn't be considered to be on the update?
So what exactly we'll do here? Are we going to remove all instances of the "(Gun Mettle Update)" on each item's "Released" section? Or are we keeping those in? In regard, they are part of the Gun Mettle Update, but not on the same date as July 2, 2015 Patch, so I don't know what to do. - ▪ - 18:56, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

I proposed (in the IRC) to make it something like (Gun Mettle Update #1).
GrampaSwood (talk) 19:01, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

I'd to remove Gun Mettle Update from all cosmetics that were not a part of the mayor update itself and leave only Gun Mettle Update Nav as it is now. A note about the cosmetics being added in another patch is already added on the update page. Denied (Talk) 19:16, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Lang redirects

Hi, Danio! I understand that language redirects seem unnecessary, but they are useful for the searching inside the wiki. Please don't mark language redirects for deletion unless another language uses the same translation. Thanks~ — Tark lm(pt-br) 14:14, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

Almost all of items names/abbilities etc. were changed back in 2018, so translated redirects are not correct anymore. Also we aren't using translated names as a redirect anywhere on the Wiki; "Pierdziuszka" will always look like this Pierdziuszka or just Whoopee Cap Denied (Talk) 14:20, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

As I said before, these pages are used to help searching, "unnecessary redirect" is not a valid reason.

If the redirect is using an outdated name, please include this information in the delete reason when using the template. — Tark lm(pt-br) 14:31, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

There's just few hats from 2010/11 and nobody was adding any new since then. I highly doupt that anybody was searching translated names; I think most people came to the article from other site or Wiki redirect in the game or the marktet. (Please don't ask me to add all missing names) Denied (Talk) 15:17, 28 September 2019 (UTC)

I personally highly doubt that many people come to the wiki via the somewhat obscure "view wiki page" buttons in-game (or even the more easily visible buttons in the Steam inventory/market). Even if that's the case, it shouldn't hurt that much to keep redirects to language pages. Unless they really are wrong names and such.

The main reason why it's hard to create new redirects is that some items have the same names in multiple languages (a lot of pt-pt and pt-br names are the same, for example; in worst case scenarios, there's items like Carl where, at least according to the dictionary, most languages kept the same name. And also Czech and Romanian don't translate item names at all, I think). If there was a good solution to this, it wouldn't be too hard to use a bot to create most redirects based on dictionary tokens or even straight out of the game's localization files, thus there would be no need to ask anybody to do it.

However, it is still a lot easier for the common user that doesn't know how the wiki works and uses Steam in say, Danish, to type in "Skræmmebriller" rather than "Spooktacles/da", and certainly even easier for a common Chinese user to type "不哑的铃" rather than "Dumb Bell/zh-hans". The wiki search is terrible for this as it does not parse markup/templates and such in search results, and can't see the translated name in templates using the dictionary; if I type in Skræmmebriller there's no results, but if I type it into Google, the page for Spooktacles/da is in fact the very first result. Though even if the person came to the wiki via Google or somewhere else, it's not really optimal design that they should go somewhere again to find another page they're looking for once they're already in the site. I'd rather have the wiki's search bar be more than an useless decoration for these users.

Either way it's unfortunate that language redirects are in a bit of a tough situation. I'd love it if there were redirects for all items, as I'm sure it would make navigating the wiki a lot easier for non-English speakers, but it's not as simple as adding them. I still don't think there is reason for deleting such existing redirects simply because new items don't get them unless there really is consensus between the wiki and/or staff that they all should get deleted (Perhaps the reason most editors don't seem to care is that they don't think much about it, as they know how the wiki works and can just type in Spooktacles/da).

And if not using redirects in edits was a good reason to delete them, it'd be a good reason to delete most disambiguations as well, as probably no pages would link to something like Banana, they'd link to whatever banana-related page they're referring to. But these pages exist to help users navigate the wiki through the search bar easily.

If the redirect names are wrong due to translation changes as you implied that's a different reason (Though it does not seem to be the case for the aforementioned Whoopee Cap which still stands as Pierdziuszka in the game's localization files). StargazerG (talk) 09:16, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

In fact, at least five Chinese visitors have asked me about the searching question, and in an questionnaire I find 22 of 100 people have trouble searching for information.

Since the wiki search is not a very reliable way for non-english readers, it may be convenient to add tons of lang redirects for people. However，it will result in a huge amount of redirect pages and a lot of work for editors.

Personnally I already had an idea and I am going to try it days later when I am free. That is to build a big sub page on translation progress page, and fill it with a lot of "nav"s , so visitors can just visit this page and type "ctrl+F" to find the information they want. 14:37, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

English, please?

Shush! That's the only translation I get to do! M I K A D O 282 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃 🎃🎃 🎃🎃 (talk) (Help Wanted!) 02:53, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Alright. I trust you. Do what must be done. Denied out. Denied (Talk) 16:59, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Nah, by definition, gibberish is untranslatable, although I sometimes pull it off. M I K A D O 282 🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃🎃 🎃🎃 🎃🎃 (talk) (Help Wanted!) 01:53, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi Denied

could you be more specific to what you meant by any source? Doktorjan 20:28, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

It means, where did you get the information that the item is a reference to what you've added there, that I don't remember now. Denied (Talk) 21:16, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Tłumaczenie Tarczy przeciw pociskom

Zrobiłem część tłumaczenia strony Projectile Shield/pl. Nie umiem tłumaczyć tabel i ostatnio mam mało czasu więc pomyślałem że może dokończysz. Tylko weź powiedz jak się tabele tłumaczy bo jak pisze Typ obrażeń zamiast Damage Type to od razu kasuje mi wiersz na podglądzie.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vq_mFuL7qGLhrvzyRTbmJo_JouOQ0necON00yFS4mDc/edit?usp=drivesdk

NoProGamerPL (talk) 20:28, 6 February 2020 (UTC)NoProGamerPL

Similar-themed items in 'See also'

I don't want to start an edit war, so, this.
First, there's no need to add all and any 'similar themed' items to the 'See also' sections: as I've explained it here, there, and in IRC someday, this can turn into endless list, even if there is only one item at the moment (like, why not put there all other pocket NPCs, or just links to the Bosses themselves?). One link to subcategory disambig page is enough, I guess.
And second, for <br> at the end of pages, as I've already explained in one diff that you prefer to ignore, there IS a problem that persists for situation when there is something except gallery section right before Nav template. I've seen this for various OS (from WinXP to Win10), various browsers (old Firefox, new Fifefox, assortment of Chromium-based browsers, etc.) and various screen resolutions (starting from 1024×768 to FullHD). And I've seen similar edits on many other pages, so I can guess that I'm not the only one with such problem.
Hope that helps. Irvitzer (talk) 19:48, 8 February 2020 (UTC)