User talk:Darkid/Archive 1

Welcome to the Wiki!

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See you around :) 17:25, 1 October 2011 (PDT)

RE: Patch/dictionary edits

Please leave the patch notes exactly as they would appear on the patch source, likewise leave the achievement descriptions how they would appear in tf_english.txt. Thanks. i-ghost 11:15, 17 January 2012 (PST)

Ah, sorry, thought capitalization was within the bounds of change. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 11:17, 17 January 2012 (PST)

I used to be...

I used to be a wiki editor like you, but then i took an arrow to the knee. I love your tiny tiny edits keep up your good work. Hopefully you could use my user template on your userpage: {{User big point}} TheDoctor 15:26, 28 January 2012 (PST)

I don't own Skyrim, but I'd take an arrow to the knee for it. Thanks for the encouragement! Darkid (Talk | contribs) 15:30, 28 January 2012 (PST)

RE: redirects

Not that I wish to discourage you from editing in general, please read Template:W. Your edits are defeating at least one of many of the purposes of redirects, one of which is to make editing easier. Thanks. i-ghost 11:29, 30 January 2012 (PST)

I'll take that with a grain of salt--one of the listed "benefits" of non-piped behavior is the ease of use of what links here. However, if everything redirects properly, it is easier to use this function without looking at Resupply lockers, Resupply, Resupply locker, Supply cabinet, etc. I do see your point, though. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 11:33, 30 January 2012 (PST)

Quick-fix

Regarding your removal of the Strange Variant section of the Quick-fix, I would like to say that all of the other Medi-gun pages explain it as well. This is likely due to the fact that it differs from the exact concept of a strange. As it stands, the Quick-fix page is inconsistent with the others. Upgrade 15:37, 9 March 2012 (PST)

I would tend to say that the rest need this removed, as they stand. The information is repetitive; albeit not excessively so, but beyond necessity. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 15:47, 9 March 2012 (PST)

Add'l Note-- The wrenches have the same "issue", so I'll defer to what is the majority--feel free to replace that edit.

Thank you for explaining. Upgrade 15:52, 9 March 2012 (PST)

Note to self

When I get back home: http://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Medic&diff=next&oldid=927338. Make a character box. Touch up strange kill counts. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 12:13, 18 March 2012 (PDT)

Wikichievement Unlocked!

Wikichievement	Awarded by	Reason
Taskmonkey Contribute to the Wiki by doing a lot of "manual edits" (such as migration of data to templates).	Dispenser (GianAwesome)	Wikichievement unlocked! For actually having patience to replace patch links with Patch name, congratulations! =D

And good luck with the rest ^^ GianAwesome 17:26, 1 April 2012 (PDT)

Thanks, if only it makes the pain more worthwhile :3 Darkid (Talk | contribs) 17:27, 1 April 2012 (PDT)

Patch template edits

Hey there. Instead of converting the patch links on thousands of articles you can get this fellow to do it by sticking Category:Patches on their Requests page. —Moussekateer·talk 17:31, 1 April 2012 (PDT)

It's on the blacklist--I'd love to talk to wind (tomorrow, when he's online, or in IRC) about this. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 17:35, 1 April 2012 (PDT)

I've already spoken to him on IRC, and he's not sure why the category is blacklisted but thinks it will be fine. You can force the bot to look over the pages on User:WindBOT/PageRequestsForce instead. —Moussekateer·talk 17:37, 1 April 2012 (PDT)

Ninja'd, but yes. Done! Sleeping early tonight :D Darkid (Talk | contribs) 17:46, 1 April 2012 (PDT)

It should be pointed out that this incidentally FAILED for three pages (achievements, degreaser, powerjack). I question whether or not it worked at all. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 09:52, 7 April 2012 (PDT)

Set redirects

Hello Darkid. I appreciate your redirecting pages such as Demoman set; however, since most classes have more than one item set, I'm going to ask you to redirect those pages to Item sets instead. Thanks in advance. rZ 05:02, 17 April 2012 (PDT)

Template experimenting

Can you try to use the preview button when you're working on your template? It's spamming the IRC. Thanks! rebmcr 10:59, 29 April 2012 (PDT)

I frequently need to save and purge to test the template. Otherwise, yes I'd use preview. Darkid (Talk | contribs)

TF Bundle redirects - they are used.

Hi there. Please do not mark redirects as unused, redirects exist for users using the search box on the wiki or for programmatic links to the Wiki to end up on the relevant article. They are not intended to be linked to via other articles in the Wiki. The bundle redirects, for example, are linked to via optf2 - this links to TF_Bundle_DOTA2GamescomChampionship. -RJ 11:21, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

However, there is no mention of them anywhere on the wiki, so I have no idea (nor does optf2) what they refer to. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 11:46, 7 May 2012 (PDT)

They are the names for the bundles as shown in TF2's item schema. Any website that links to the Wiki using the schema's "item_name" attribute for items uses those redirects to get to the relevant article. -RJ 12:28, 8 May 2012 (PDT)

Wait...WHAT?

This Granary/de edit of yours makes absolutely no sense there is no "Granary Koth" and even the german version of this template is weird...i wonder if you could consider some help to make this template useful. If not ignore my post and undo yours, thanks. TheDoctor 14:09, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

Hrm, I seem to have messed up that template somehow. It is using a base translation (I hope that text is right) to provide standardized alternate map types. I seem to have made a logical glitch: there is no granary (KOTH) only Granary (Arena). Fixing this now...

OK, Granary is now updated. It now looks like: "Es gibt von Granary mehrere Versionen, inklusive Arena." However, there is a boldface glitch which I'm going to try to iron out now, which should fix that issue. Do you have any problems with the grammatical structure? Darkid (Talk | contribs) 15:24, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

Found the issue, fixed it. Boldface isn't an issue anymore. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 15:28, 9 May 2012 (PDT)

Still there Granary_(Arena)/de < instead of "Control Point" it should be "Kontrollpunkt(e)". Your template must be adjusted once more, sorry. TheDoctor 11:16, 10 May 2012 (PDT)

It's no trouble-- couple of questions for you, though. First, is the grammar alright? Is that phrasing OK? Second, what's the (e) for? Is it a pluralization, or is it required by some law of German?

Have now added translation switching for the phrases: "Arena" "King of the Hill" "Control Point" and "Capture the Flag", using dictionary implementation. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 11:43, 10 May 2012 (PDT)

I dont know but "...,inklusive einer (Kontrollpunkt Variation)" is maybe nice. But you can let it stay that way, but just "Kontrollpunkt" not "Kontrollpunkte" the rest is gud. TheDoctor 12:42, 10 May 2012 (PDT)

To fix the first, edit {{Map Variant}}, it should be reasonably simple to see where that is. To edit the control point definition, you need to edit the dictionary entry. Template:Dictionary/common_strings is the link, feel free to edit any german translation issues there. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 17:40, 23 May 2012 (PDT)

Pointlezz edit iz pointlezz

What exactly was achieved by this edit? The Wiki doesn't favour any particular variation of English; as long as all occurences on a particular page are consistent they can be left alone. » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 16:08, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

It's not a "particular variation", it's standardized. Sorry for being slightly insistant on spelling, but I tend to be wary of that. I'll refrain from making global page-based changes for a single issue in the future. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 16:20, 25 May 2012 (PDT)

Phlogistinator edits

Look at the bottom of each edit: Cite error: <ref> tags exist, but no <references/> tag was found

[16:42] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/pl by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041682 (+39) (Fixed damage value.) (13:23:10) [Via Teenee]
[16:42] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/cs by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041683 (+40) (Fixing damage value.) (13:23:25) [Via Heisenberg]
[16:43] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/de by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041684 (+40) (Fixing damage value.) (13:23:41) [Via Heisenberg]
[16:43] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/es by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041685 (+40) (Fixed damage value.) (13:23:53) [Via Heisenberg]
[16:43] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/fr by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041686 (+40) (Fixed damage value.) (13:24:20) [Via Heisenberg]
[16:44] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/it by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041687 (+40) (Fixed damage value.) (13:24:36) [Via Heisenberg]
[16:44] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/ko by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041688 (+40) (Fixed damage value.) (13:25:10) [Via Heisenberg]
[16:45] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/nl by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041689 (+40) (Fixed damage value.) (13:25:26) [Via Heisenberg]
[16:45] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/pt-br by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041690 (0) (Fixed damage value.) (13:25:36) [Via Heisenberg]
[16:45] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/sv by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041691 (+40) (Fixed damage value.) (13:25:52) [Via Heisenberg] [16:45] <@Spacenet> [RC] m Phlogistinator/zh-hant by Darkid - http://wiki.tf/d/1041692 (+40) (Fixed damage value.) (13:26:12) [Via Heisenberg]
Good luck fixing that, i dont speak all these languages and i'm not sure if i could add languaged references for that. Just a quick note that you missed to add references. As it is now, you cant click the links. TheDoctor 07:45, 4 June 2012 (PDT)

Ah crap, fixing now ...

== {{SUBST:common string|references}} == <references/>
Darkid (Talk | contribs) 08:27, 4 June 2012 (PDT)

Due to captcha glitches, IT, NL, PT-BR, SV, ZH-HANS, PL are still not fixed. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 09:11, 4 June 2012 (PDT)

Edit: Done. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 06:48, 5 June 2012 (PDT)

Reverted Edit

{{Show achievement|Pyro|Makin' Bacon}}

Kill 50 Heavies with your flamethrower.

That doesnt mean the achievement can only be done with the stock flamethrower, but it can be done with any flamethrower.

Don't go around undoing edits if you're unsure. At least post to my talk page. - MLGM 21:11, 16 June 2012 (PDT)

AFAIK == As Far As I Know. I am quite certain. See Phlogistinator, and it's history.
It is stock only. It's a misleading wording, but true. Thank you for the follow-up, though. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 21:15, 16 June 2012 (PDT)

Phlogistinator uses

{{Show achievement|Pyro|Hot on Your Heels}}

It's an achievement that needs a "flamethrower" to complete. I'm telling you, when an achievement refers to "flamethrower" for the pyro, they're talking about any flamethrower; any primary weapon. ~ The same way, for example, the medic can use the Amputator to complete an achievement that asks you to use the Bonesaw.. it's all the same.

Here's another example to prove my point.

{{Show achievement|Medic|Peer Review}}

This achievement can be done with any medic melee weapon. It's not limited to the stock bonesaw, the same way the pyro can use any flamethrower. Have I proved myself? Can I revert the edit now? - MLGM

It's specific to this achievement. I'm gonna hop onto my alt and try to find a flamethrower to prove it to you. I'm almost positive. I suggest you ask on IRC as well. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 16:25, 17 June 2012 (PDT)

Here is a thread about people failing to get this without stock. I'm trying to get pyro milestones to get these items. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 16:58, 17 June 2012 (PDT)

I've obtained a backburner, now testing. Once I get all 3 (Phlog, Degreas, BackB) I'll make a video. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 08:56, 18 June 2012 (PDT)

Templates

Might I ask you what do you want to use them for? Seems like it's something big. :p  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 13:49, 18 June 2012 (PDT)

I tried, (and may have failed) but hopefully succeeded in bringing over an edit warning template. Wikipedia is aggravatingly convoluted. If it fails (I hope it won't), I shall not bring over any more wikipedia templates. Darkid (Talk | contribs) 13:51, 18 June 2012 (PDT)

Alas, it failed. Horridly. Damn you wikipedia! Darkid (Talk | contribs) 13:56, 18 June 2012 (PDT)

I still don't see what was your goal but... I'll just go ahead and delete those templates, I guess. :P  –  Epic Eric (T | C) 13:59, 18 June 2012 (PDT)

A customized warning (akin to a protected page) to warn a user that they were touching something they shouldn't. Some wikipedians have this, many don't, but it is quite useful for complex template work (which shouldn't be protected, but should have a warning). Darkid (Talk | contribs) 14:06, 18 June 2012 (PDT)

Blueprint templates

Are you out of your mind? Most of the langauges that you've added are not translated into. '''Don't do that.''' rZ 07:37, 21 June 2012 (PDT)

No, thanks for the insult (again). All languages are translated--look at the translations for Refined Metal, etc. Darkid 07:39 21 June 2012 (PDT)

Ah, so some of the tooltips are missing. I'll hold of on those languages, then. Darkid 07:40 21 June 2012 (PDT)

Pay attention next time you do something like that and use the '''Show preview''' button. rZ 07:42, 21 June 2012 (PDT)

Please don't use bold on my talk page, thank you. Darkid 07:44 21 June 2012 (PDT)

Eh...what?

Hello, Darkid. I have noticed your edits, however I don't understand why you undo the new template changes in Milkman/zh-hant or other pages. I was just saying "oh yeah someone is helping me changing these", I did not know what was your meaning in edits that "Template not pushed to this language". Is there anything I overlooked and should be undone? 08:01, 21 June 2012 (PDT)

{{Blueprint/core}} is missing translations strings for that language. That's the only barrier to language support right now. Darkid 08:06 21 June 2012 (PDT)

Edit: I'm an idiot. R4wz0rz0r undid it, correctly. Darkid 8:09 21 June 2012 (PDT)

OK I see it. Still thank you and R4wz0rz0r for changing these template. 08:13, 21 June 2012 (PDT)

Fixed

I fixed Map Variant by adding Map Variant/Substring/fi for it, it should be grammatically correct in every case now. -Asplode 06:15, 28 June 2012 (PDT)

Fixed v2, I marked Map Variant/Substring/fi for deletion, because it's not needed anymore. Template:Map Variant now is basically correct in grammar every time. -Asplode 05:46, 1 July 2012 (PDT)

About the Spanish translation request.

When a page that is not in English needs updating we use {{update trans}}. There is no need to change/add/translate {{update}}. If I have misunderstood your request feel free to respond back in my talk page.

Regards,

BiBi 14:06, 15 July 2012 (PDT)

It's all down to you now...

Hey there! Good to see your new signature seems to be working well! Listen, I'm heading to New Zealand on holiday for just over a month, so I'll be incapable of updating the image generators every week as usual. Would it be too much to ask if you could do it? Don't worry about it if you've not got time; just figured I'd ask as you already understand how the thing works, and anything is better than letting them gather dust for a month.

Thanks, and have a good summer :) » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 16:27, 17 July 2012 (PDT)

You simply (mondays) add any new hats/etc, and copy whatever results on to the hat o ze week and misc o ze week pages, right? Darkid (|) 16:59, 17 July 2012 (PDT)

Zis iz correct - just make sure that the week digit (in red) matches the current week. It helps if you keep the log updated too. And remember to change the mod digit in the template if new items are added. Thanks alot, I really appreciate this :) » Cooper Kid (blether) • (contreebs) 17:32, 17 July 2012 (PDT)

Crate reordering

We list all crates the way they appear ingame. You changed that, not knowing this. So please undo your changes, or open a discussion why a different listing from ingame should be done, thank you. δ³Σx² 15:59, 8 September 2012 (PDT)

I was unaware of said in-game ordering. That would, indeed, take precedence. Reverting time... Darkid (|) 16:02, 8 September 2012 (PDT)

A question

Hello. Im about this edit. Why have you added second sentence while it was fixed in August 10, 2012 Patch? --askarmuk, C? 02:32, 21 September 2012 (PDT)

I didn't see that it had been changed previously, thank you. Darkid (|) 04:40, 21 September 2012 (PDT)

Yoooo /de addition

U no german. C point? Here is: Awesomenauts Badge ; C gallery(galerie) ; item infobox (not the language switched part) ; Have a nice day ; δ³Σx² > Add + or - skills for me 10:21, 17 October 2012 (PDT)

It was a mass-edit, on a variety of pages to make sure that items were switched in. I couldn't find a nice way (e.g. {{class link}}) to put the names on the page. My edit did not change much that was problematic. Darkid (|) 10:28, 17 October 2012 (PDT)

Weak. C: [[Spy{{if lang}}{{Dictionary/classes/spy}}]] . δ³Σx² > Add + or - skills for me 11:50, 17 October 2012 (PDT)

That is more complex, and more confusing to someone trying to fix it. The other one is a documented template which I'm using verbatim; and someone could quickly fix it with the actual text. Darkid (|) 15:51, 17 October 2012 (PDT)

You dont need to fix something which works. Your part doesnt make sense, if it doesnt even work. Secondly could u simplify your user talk you cant click edit on topics to add informations, that really sucks... And lastly your change is visible but not that visible. It just shows the names for the class which are mostly the same in many languages, but not that they need links for it. I said in the past to another guy which updates the gallery that he should translate the description or at least note it with a retranslate info of some kind. Some information about adding into another language which is not a 100% good, because the translation felt through. I dont support that editing, it is helpful yes, but it also makes work on a surprising end. I only support a 100% correct translations, blame me. δ³Σx² > Add + or - skills for me 06:02, 19 October 2012 (PDT)

I will use {{class link}} which provides links in the future. The english (and other language) galleries simply put a class name below the pictures. I was unable to figure this out at the time; but will use it from now on. My user talk is an outstanding issue that I'm trying to fix, but for now please just use the edit link at the top of the page. In the future, I will put an {{update trans}} at the top of pages which don't have translated text. Darkid (|) 06:14, 19 October 2012 (PDT)

Thanks. δ³Σx² > Add + or - skills for me 09:08, 19 October 2012 (PDT)

tabs

Hi, Can you give me a explain to me how to do that tabbing window that will scroll through pages? Thanks RexMan85 21:53, 22 October 2012 (PDT)

{{Tabs}} or {{ClassTabs}} if you don't want to mess with all that formatting. Alternatively, take a peek at User:Darkid/Header and see how I did mine. Darkid (|) 04:39, 23 October 2012 (PDT)

I made this page, But I have 2 problems. 1 first category name is messed up. 2. NavBox is a little glitchy, How can I fix it? RexMan85 06:36, 23 October 2012 (PDT)

What's wrong with the category name? And yes, your header breaks are not working--I ran into this too. The header breaks can be fixed by adding a tag pair at the start of the page... I don't know why. It does some kind of re-formatting thing. Darkid (|) 07:22, 23 October 2012 (PDT)

Works, Thanks RexMan85 08:14, 23 October 2012 (PDT)

But the point is...

The achievement about the Soldier killing the Spy. Their weapons do not matter here.

It could be a Soldier with any weapon (primary, secondary, melee) killing a Spy with any knife (default, wanga prick, your eternal reward, black rose, etc.).

Yes, the Spy can use the Saxxy to backstab his team mate, but that does not count towards the achievement. It is extraneous information.

Hopefully you understand my views on this subject. :p

LuchaHoovy 15:29, 29 October 2012 (PDT)

By that logic, no achievement should be listed anywhere that isn't extraordinarily specific, e.g. Trench Warfare shouldn't be listed on the Equalizer page. Darkid (|) 15:32, 29 October 2012 (PDT)

Trench Warfare is earned by meleeing a nemesis to death. It specifically states that it must be done via a shovel variant. The Spybunal achievement does not mention that it is strictly granted by a Soldier with a melee weapon killing a Spy. It covers EVERY weapon for the Soldier. LuchaHoovy 15:39, 29 October 2012 (PDT)

However, War Crime Spybunal requires specifically a spy melee weapon. That is what this was added for. Look on Knife or Wanga Prick. Darkid (|) 15:42, 29 October 2012 (PDT)

I know what you are trying to say here, but, as stated before, the knife used to murder the team mate does not matter for this particular achievement to be granted to the Soldier. LuchaHoovy 15:51, 29 October 2012 (PDT)

Likewise, the shovel used does not matter for trench warfare. Darkid (|) 15:52, 29 October 2012 (PDT)

I will let you win this argument, although my opinion still varies. :) LuchaHoovy 15:54, 29 October 2012 (PDT)

Show Preview

Okay man stop spamming me http://steamcommunity.com/id/ohhnoo 16:16, 31 October 2012 (PDT)

I only "spammed" you because you're spamming the Recent Changes log. Darkid (|) 16:17, 31 October 2012 (PDT)

lol? (Pile of Curses/de)

This Pile of Curses edit. Where is this visible this {{update trans|...}} ? Wondered if it appears somewhere for someone to see? I also only said that no translation because in the sts atm no moderator accepted the halloween string for this item. Still this would be always in almost every new article, but only when you cant be sure about the article( The(eng) = Der, Die, Das, Des(ger) ) . So i dont think we should add that in the future, also it is no german string in this which doesnt tell you in a hearty german way what to do. But please enlighten me about this. δ³Σx² > Add + or - skills for me 16:47, 5 November 2012 (PST)

"It looks like there's something in there... IF YOU DARE!" -> Infobox on the right. I suspect that should be translated. It should be in the first template on the page. AFAIK most pages have this translated. For example, here. Darkid (|) 16:51, 5 November 2012 (PST)

You know that the item description is done in the sts? Exactly what you point out if also relevant to the "Pile of Curses" name. There cant be anything done about it UNTIL the STS names are approved. I just wanted to know where this "information template" makes an entry or a note? Because it would be more helpful if you have a page like "missing pages/de" for it. But if it is only in this article it looks bad and doesnt help because there is no translation work to be done, because there is no translation. I hope you understand what i want to express. If not please let me know. Also have a good n8 and sleep well. I will with my plushy bear called Steve!!!! δ³Σx² > Add + or - skills for me 17:05, 5 November 2012 (PST)

Ahh STS. Ok, I'll remove it. Sorry, I was just trying to document it. Darkid (|) 17:14, 5 November 2012 (PST)

Template:Dictionary/common_strings

Why you deleted random strings?

ANGEL_UNDEAD 19:40, 13 November 2012 (PST)

As I said in the edit summary, english strings for other language should not be there; a blank should be there instead. If I've removed any correct translations, feel free to replace them. Darkid (|) 19:41, 13 November 2012 (PST)

So, the english strings will be used by default now? If so, then it's ok. ANGEL_UNDEAD 08:06, 14 November 2012 (PST)

If there isn't a translated string, then it will use english. Darkid (|) 09:31, 14 November 2012 (PST)

Thanks for the info with the w template

But "but it's not going to do the trick" is not that helpful. My motivation is: Do something, help someone, change the world, become president. So let's hope for change and other good things in the future. δ³Σx² > Add + or - skills for me 12:19, 24 November 2012 (PST)

For future reference, continue the discussion on your talk page... don't split it up. I'm going to poke wind to put in a bot filter... so we'll see how that goes. Darkid (|) 12:59, 24 November 2012 (PST)

{{w}}

Just leave them the way they are, they aren't hurting anybody. No benefit is being gained from changing them to inter-wiki links. It's never going to be implemented as a bot filter either. Invest your time in something more productive. i-ghost 06:58, 25 November 2012 (PST)

Your edit

Please explain to me this edit. --BisB 10:59, 7 December 2012 (PST)

By adding the | , it puts the page Patches (Beta)/cs at the top of the Category:Patches/cs category. This is the same as in the English version. Darkid (|) 11:01, 7 December 2012 (PST)