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Hello. I was thinking of adding Images right next to the search results like Wikipedia does.  It makes sure that people know what page to go to, and it will overall improve the wiki. ----[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 16:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 
Hello. I was thinking of adding Images right next to the search results like Wikipedia does.  It makes sure that people know what page to go to, and it will overall improve the wiki. ----[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 16:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
 
: I think many don't even get to the actual Search page but maybe the proposed extension on the main page has this option? I'm not sure [[User:Mgpt|Mgpt]] ([[User talk:Mgpt|talk]]) 16:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
 
: I think many don't even get to the actual Search page but maybe the proposed extension on the main page has this option? I'm not sure [[User:Mgpt|Mgpt]] ([[User talk:Mgpt|talk]]) 16:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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== Remove captcha requirement for autoconfirmed users ==
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Hello there.<br>
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Google Captcha is a terrible service and I would like to kindly request the user right <code>skipcaptcha</code> for users in the group <code>Autoconfirmed users</code>.<br>
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I believe this wouldn't cause any considerable trouble as only users that are/were active would be able to skip the captcha. (The wiki URL filter (such as social media URL filtering) would still apply. This is only about the captcha.)<br>
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For more information, see [[:Special:ListGroupRights]].<br>
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Many thanks for your attention.<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 00:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)

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Special:RandomPage

Is there any way that we can make Special:RandomPage not redirect to subpages? Obviously the primary language of the wiki is English, and there's really no point presenting the majority of people with a Russian page who then might click again to get a German page. -- Pilk (talk) 09:45, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

WindPower has created an extension for use. It's quite brilliant! He's made it so that if you're on an English page, then random page returns only English pages, if you on a localized page then it will only return pages of the same language. Pretty fancy! -- Smashman... (ts) 10:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Source to WindPower's extenstion.  – Smashman (talk) 20:24, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
The extension requires the SpecialRandomGetRandomTitle hook that was added in 1.16.0. I have successfully installed it on the Alien Swarm Wiki, which also runs on 1.15.4, by simply overwriting 1.15.4's SpecialRandompage.php with the version from 1.16.0, and it seems to work fine. So either an upgrade to 1.16.0 or simply overwriting this file would work. Thanks~ — Wind 20:27, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram comment.png Comment Given the age of this request I think WindPower should make the decision here; I tested the extension, but it only stuck to English pages because I couldn't enable the /wiki/$1 url-shortening on my test wiki; if it can be tweaked to apply on index.php?title=$1 as well as /wiki/$1 then I'm okay with it. -RJ 20:58, 13 May 2013 (PDT)

Semantic MediaWiki

The SMW framework would be extremely useful for this wiki. There is a lot of data on the wiki that can be collated or filtered as lists, making a lot of manual categorization unnecessary. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 04:34, 12 May 2013 (PDT)

Pictogram plus.png Support though SMW confuses my head. -RJ 20:58, 13 May 2013 (PDT)

Anti-spam stuff

I think one easy change would be installing AbuseFilter; You can write regex filters to block based on a user's age, number of links in an edit, etc.

A second extension that might be useful is SpamBlacklist. WMF has a huge list of sites globally blocked on their sites, and it tends to be pretty useful.

Nuke lets admins mass-delete pages, making cleanup a bit easier.

SimpleAntiSpam just adds a form in the signup page that users don't see, but blocks registration if a bot were to add text to it. [4]

One change that doesn't require an extension is to add something like this bit of code in LocalSettings.php: [snip] $wgAutoConfirmAge = 86400*5; //Set autoconfirmed age to 5 days... $wgAutoConfirmCount = 5; //...and 5 edits $wgGroupPermissions['user']['createpage'] = false; //Don't allow new users to create pages $wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['createpage'] = true; //Allow autoconfirmed users create pages $wgGroupPermissions['user']['upload'] = false; //Don't allow new users to upload $wgGroupPermissions['autoconfirmed']['upload'] = true; //Allow autoconfirmed users upload files [/snip]

I'm not a MediaWiki expert... But I've run quite a few wikis that have been spammed a lot worse than this, and mitigated it to the point where we got almost no spam anymore. Pilif12p 15:49, 13 May 2013 (PDT)

Only way this will happen is if Valve actually does it. But knowing valve. They will take forever. So Good luck with this. Ashes 16:47, 13 May 2013 (PDT)
We have server access now Ashes; right now we're figuring out our workflow before we implement anything, but things should clean up soon. -RJ 16:54, 13 May 2013 (PDT)
Splitting each proposition in to its own discussion section: -RJ 20:58, 13 May 2013 (PDT)

AbuseFilters

Pictogram minus.png Oppose We have AbuseFilters on the Dota 2 Wiki, but it's a lot of effort to set up, and (with the Dota 2 WIki set up) there are often false positives which can easily go unnoticed unless the Abuse logs are constantly being reviewed; I'm opposed to abuse filters right now, but if other efforts to counter spam aren't successful I'd reconsider this opinion. -RJ 20:58, 13 May 2013 (PDT)
Wikipedia has a lot of their filters public, and in production. You can just copy the regex from there and set the same options, then you shouldn't have too many false positives. This is a pretty good example. It's not like you have to enable any filters if you do install it, though. Pilif12p 14:54, 14 May 2013 (PDT)

SpamBlacklist

Pictogram plus.png Support -RJ 20:58, 13 May 2013 (PDT)

Nuke

Pictogram plus.png Support Worth having in case of any mass-edit attack / vandalism, though spambots we face right now just do a single edit and disappear, so it's not necessary for spam handling. -RJ 20:58, 13 May 2013 (PDT)

SimpleAntiSpam

Pictogram plus.png Support Sounds simple, I think it's worth trying. -RJ 20:58, 13 May 2013 (PDT)

Permissions changes

Pictogram comment.png Comment Worth discussing. It seems we did have AutoConfirmAge and AutoConfirmCount set to what you proposed, but they were later reduced to lower values for some reason. I think these permissions may be too aggressive right now, and the spambots we're facing are waiting to be autoconfirmed before they hit anyway - so these changes might not have any impact. -RJ 20:58, 13 May 2013 (PDT)
Turns out I'm wrong with the above statement, spambots are editing with only "user" permissions, so it's certainly worth discussing if we should limit users aggressively until they're autoconfirmed. -RJ 10:57, 14 May 2013 (PDT)

Edit filter

Pictogram comment.png Comment Recommended by Bsadowski1, it seems pretty powerful with what we can do with it. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 18:34, 31 May 2013 (PDT)
That would be abuse filter. Wikipedia just calls it "Edit Filter", same thing though. Pilif12p (talk) 09:47, 2 June 2013 (PDT)

Flood flag

Instead of having people fill up RC with the same repetitive changes, why not have them use alternate "flooder" accounts with the flood flag? They won't show up in RC, nor flood IRC... I don't remember the exact right you have to add to LocalSettings, but I'm sure somebody else does. Pilif12p (talk) 07:52, 4 June 2013 (PDT)

RevQuery

See here. Written by seb26 for our image caching issues. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 11:26, 6 June 2013 (PDT)

thank

I like the feature in other wikis in the history view to thank editors for specific edits, and I would appreciate having that feature here, if possible. Mikado282 (talk) 19:47, 29 April 2014 (PDT)

Spell Check?

Could any possible misspelled word be underlined with a red line? I find it difficult to use auto correct on my iPad, as it could auto change words spelled rihgt (and it has) and the arrangment pf the keyboard make me hit the wrong keys frequently. Please add? ScottishDrunkard (talk) 12:04, 27 December 2014 (PST)

Beep boop

I am a robot. -RJ 07:41, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Formatting Extension for Mobile Devices

Currently, viewing information on the wiki via a mobile device is rather clunky. Implementing some form of solution to this, such as the MobileFrontend extension used by Wikipedia would be very helpful in making information more accessible to users. I'm not sure how this would impact wiki formatting, but if it could properly implemented it would definitely be of huge benefit to the wiki Salty DogInfernalShroom (Talk) 20:54, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Pictogram tick.png Support I literally made the same request on the wiki talk page, not realizing it'd go better here. so uhh yeah, what he said. Kestrelguy (talk) 02:05, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Auto add "update trans" template

I find few translators have the habit of updating their works. And I have told Chinese regulars to use Watchlist well for updating, however, it seems most of them won't listen.

Let me stress the importance of updating translation here: English pages, or should I say, orginal pages may be updated by anyone at anytime, and the translation sub pages won't update themselves. For those translators who work here frequently, maintaining the timeliness of translated pages is as important as creating new ones.

I have been thinking about this for 2 days, although it's possible to track the newest versions by using Watchlist (while many translators have yet to do so), searching for other pages which need updating could be very time consuming. We already have "update trans" template for this, but it's a fact that many outdated pages haven't been marked for it.

So, my request is whether if we can have a bot to add "update trans" template automatically based on difference between the last editing dates of the original pages and the translation pages, which would make it eaiser to find outdated translation pages? The difference could be set to half a year or other value.

I know that this change will spam our Wiki, but as long as it can attract translators' attention to updating, it will be worthy.

Dereko, a TF Wiki translator 07:24, 3 May 2020 (UTC)

Starg and I worked on a project that had a similar idea. It's not maintained anymore, but it shouldn't be hard to get it working again.
Here's the pages: Weapons, Taunts. — Tark lm(pt-br) 11:22, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Fix the "spy sapping my wiki" easter egg

I'm having a problem with TF2 Wiki on Android, Chrome browser v. 84.0. The 'spy sappin muh wiki' easter egg shows up too often and is too easy to trigger unintentionally, which causes severe confusion and unwanted sound effects.

I believe the problem is within the JS code which triggers the effect. It seems to detect the swipes and taps combination not only when it is produced in continuous succession, but generally when I do all the actions in the right order, possibly alternating them with other gestures.

Moreover, after the easter egg is triggered once, every single tap on the page will trigger it again, until I reload the page.

Ashpool (talk) 14:24, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Pictogram tick.png Should be fixed. [1]Tark lm(pt-br) 11:17, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Taking requests for converting talk pages back to regular 'ol wikitext

Hi folks, I've switched off the flow talk page thing for new talk pages. Digging in, it doesn't appear there's an easy way to automatically convert existing talk pages that are using Flow back to regular wiki text. There is a maintenance script to give me the wikitext for a particular page, but it's a manual job to then delete the existing talk page and create a new one with that wiki text. That could be automated but as it involves deletions it'd end up being pretty risky, and hell to clean up if anything goes wrong. I'll spend some time thinking about whether that's worth exploring.

In the mean time, if there are any pages you'd like converting please drop them below. I'll check back regularly (Valve time) and work through them.

Ta, -RJ 15:20, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

I would say to backup the saved data from the current talk system, and restore it back to the regular text. Keep the saved info from the current system somewhere, so we don't lose something important. The current talk system has replaced a ton of talk pages and talk user pages with nothing. We thought it would be a good idea implement it, but it's full of bugs and made things even worse. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 16:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
god please save my talk page -- Boba 17:35, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
Hope you are still around, please fix my talk page, thanks! --AlexT 03:31, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
Howdy! Could you please do something about mine? I wouldn't even mind it using the flow, just want for messages to display there (lol). User Foxbite avatar.jpgfoxbite (talk) ⨯ (contribs) 12:11, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
Mine too! Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 01:33, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Pages such as the following should be changed: Talk:Cheater's Lament, Talk:Anti-Demoman strategy, Talk:Anti-Pyro strategy, Talk:Anti-Soldier strategy, Talk:Anti-Heavy strategy, Talk:Anti-Medic strategy, Talk:Anti-Engineer strategy, Talk:Anti-Sniper strategy, Talk:Anti-Spy strategy, Talk:Frenchman's Beret, Talk:ÜberCharge. I might list more later but here's a non-comprehensive list of some of the pages that should be changed into traditional talk page format. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 00:28, 11 March 2023 (UTC)
Hey — here's another page! Talk:Customize items
Tiagoquix (talk) 17:35, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
Request: Talk:Soldier_voice_commands/zh-hans (Further requests will be added here).
Thanks.--Tf medic setup charge.pngBEUFK - Contributions-Talk 12:00, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
Talk:Power Up Canteen also needs it Jh34ghu43gu (talk) 11:50, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
I concur with this, when it comes to wiki stuff as a veteran editor on the main Wikipedia, classic generally better.--Leaderboard class allclass.png Akolyth (talk) 02:49, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
Another one! Talk:Description Tag. Thanks in advance.
Tiagoquix (talk) 18:01, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
Take that! Talk:Voting.
Tiagoquix (talk) 16:04, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
I have a list of potential pages, if that helps . Although there are other requests on the main page that deserve more attention Mgpt (talk) 17:33, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Configuring Extension:ParserFunctions

Extension:ParserFunctions is an already super useful extension. It can be made even more useful by configuring it to set $wgPFEnableStringFunctions to true. This would allow the extension to also utilize many of the features of Extension:StringFunctions with a quick configuration change. ~ Boba 20:39, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

+1 User Wookipan Golden Strawberry.png Wookipan (talk | contribs) 00:23, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
+1 — Tark 18:03, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

"Random page" button sends you to pages with different languages

So I've recently discovered that the button that says "Random page" will take you to not just a random page on this wiki, but a random page written in a different language as well. If this isn't intentional, can someone please fix it so that it will take you to a random page in the same language as the page you're currently on? GoodMudkip (talk) 17:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)GoodMudkip

Unfortunately, it's not possible to fix this issue. — Tark lm(pt-br) 17:13, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
I mean, this issue shouldn't really be too hard to circumnavigate. If a page you randomly go to isn't English, then you can clink on a small link just below the page's title, which will bring you to the original, English version of that page.
Lolimsogreat21 (talk) 17:26, 13 September 2021 (UTC)Lolimsogreat21

Tooltip template on mobile devices

We uses a lot of {{tooltip}} in this Wiki, but you can't see the text on phones and tablets without a mouse. I see there's this thing that could maybe solve this? Or is there other ways to let you tap on the text and show the tooltip? --AlexT 15:03, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Make this wiki's theme dark by default

I'm tired of being blinded by flashbangs using this wiki.
The Dark Reader extension does not work properly (ugly colors and breaks some elements), and the suggestion of the MediaWiki's Dark Mode extension for this wiki has been rejected.
I think the best thing then would be to make the TF Wiki dark by default, just like Discord and Steam are. White could be an option, but not the default option. Tiagoquix (talk) 23:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

I think a compromise maybe fitting with the TF aesthetic would a sepia/beige-yellow-orangeish theme?--Leaderboard class allclass.png Akolyth (talk) 02:56, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Twinkle

See Team_Fortress_Wiki:Discussion#Twinkle_in_TF2wiki.3F. — Tark 00:48, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

Page for Blender?

The de facto standard for all but the most pro community creators making hat and item models. And really in the past decade, Blender is becoming the universal 3D modeler with Maya etc. just retaining prestige. Should there be a short page for it directing to the other wiki or whatever? Indirectly encouraging more community creations.--Leaderboard class allclass.png Akolyth (talk) 02:58, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Hm, these pages are created only when we link directly to them, which is not the case here. I wouldn't mind having an in-depth tutorial on how to create cosmetic items or a simple list of popular tools on Steam Workshop though. — Tark 04:25, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
I'd be in favour of linking to other guides (IIRC NeoDement had a link to that on their profile for ages but I can't find it anymore) and popular tools on Steam Workshop over us making a page for a tutorial. Seeing as most active people don't know how to cosmetic items, it would essentially just be a copy of an existing outside guide or one person's method of doing things.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 12:15, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Mandatory Show Preview Requirement.

Chinese Wikipedia has implemented a feature that forces non-autoconfirmed users to use "Show Preview" before they saving the changes. Should we get one?
By the way, I've seen someone else has proposed the removal of CAPTCHA for autoconfirmed users, but when will it work?--Tf medic setup charge.pngBEUFK - Contributions-Talk 14:50, 6 August 2023 (UTC)

Not sure about the CAPTCHA thing, but the forced SP will not really do much imo, except for make people think the edit saved.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 15:18, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
We currently don't have the means to do anything about the CAPTCHA, unfortunately. — Wookipan (talk | contribs) 21:02, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
It works like this and I'm fully sure that no one will misunderstand it. --祝编安/Best Regards ||| BEUFK the nonsense - contrib. - have a talk 15:31, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Concerning CAPTCHA, it admittedly has been one of my greatest pet peeves for Wikis and internet in general for years, at least with Google's version, which I swear doesn't register correct inputs at least half the time. The slow "fade in" images are the worst and can be quite discouraging. For now I try the audio option when that isn't incomprehensible. I think a simple text or short audio fill-in (or solve a simple arithmetic equation or something) should stop bots regardless and I want Google to lessen its monopoly anyway. I understand though.--Leaderboard class allclass.png Akolyth (talk) 02:37, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
Speak of the devil, I just got this problem worse than ever for using an external link in an edit (did many times before). And Google so set the captcha in an apparent endless loop. This is madness, I can't take it, something has to make this easier please!--Leaderboard class allclass.png Akolyth (talk) 03:45, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
Pictogram tick.png SupportTark 16:17, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Pictogram tick.png Support. I was experimenting a little with something of that nature a while back. Should be relatively easy to develop, and I might also have a better way for it to grab users' attention. — Wookipan (talk | contribs) 21:02, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
Pictogram tick.png Support I misunderstood what it meant, I thought it meant that when hitting "save" it forced a show preview first.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 10:49, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
Pictogram cross.png Against the main idea, but no captcha requirement for autoconfirmed users is fine IMO.
Tiagoquix (talk) 18:06, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Adding images to searches

Hello. I was thinking of adding Images right next to the search results like Wikipedia does. It makes sure that people know what page to go to, and it will overall improve the wiki. ----User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 16:33, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

I think many don't even get to the actual Search page but maybe the proposed extension on the main page has this option? I'm not sure Mgpt (talk) 16:22, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Remove captcha requirement for autoconfirmed users

Hello there.
Google Captcha is a terrible service and I would like to kindly request the user right skipcaptcha for users in the group Autoconfirmed users.
I believe this wouldn't cause any considerable trouble as only users that are/were active would be able to skip the captcha. (The wiki URL filter (such as social media URL filtering) would still apply. This is only about the captcha.)
For more information, see Special:ListGroupRights.
Many thanks for your attention.
Tiagoquix (talk) 00:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)