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Community Badlands (Control Point) strategy | |
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Basic Information | |
Developer(s): | Unknown |
Map Info | |
Environment: | Desert |
Setting: | Dusk, cloudy |
Map Photos | |
General
- Badlands is a 5 point Control Point map notable for its mix of large open space and tight quarters for ambushes.
- Erecting a defensive block on the opponent’s side of the point can control the central bridge. The open nature of the map means this defense has to be mobile and reactive to avoid being destroyed in a retaliating attack. Turtling is therefore a harder strategy than attacking on this map in all but the final point.
- Demomen and Heavies are extremely effective on this map due to the various twists and turns from one area to another.
- Despite the map's open nature Snipers may find it hard to find a secure vantage point for sniping. Areas like the second control point, however, are excellent places for a Sniper to dig in and stop advancing teams.
- The final control point for either team can be captured very quickly. Defenders should always make sure it is secured by a tough class, or covered by a Sentry Gun. For attackers, the best strategy is to attempt to get to this point as soon as the fourth control point is captured or better yet, already have teammates on the point while the enemy team is trying to prevent the capture.
- There is no source of water in this map; although, a location does exist in the Arena version.
- The windows on opposite sides of the central control point leave enough room for a level 1 Sentry Gun or a Mini-Sentry Gun to fire without being easily seen. A base could also easily be built here by building a Dispenser in the inside of the building, and it can be defended easily by using the Frontier Justice's revenge Crits. The windows can also be used as escape routes for injured Scouts.
- Soldiers, Pyros, and Demomen are very strong classes on capturing the spire as they can stop any enemy from attempting to jump on to it.
- The lamp directly above the final point can be jumped up on by Soldiers and Demomen, serving as an ambush spot to kill enemies attempting to cap the point, or as a spot for sneaky Soldiers or Demomen to get a quick back cap.
Scout
- Scouts can be extremely effective on this map. A team of coordinated Scouts can easily storm Control point 3 before meeting any resistance. Once they hit the tighter corridors and ambush points further on, however, they become less successful.
Attacking Control Point 3
- At first, both teams rush to the 1st capture point and because of your speed, you're able to be there first. Usually you are up at against the Scouts from the other team, until the rest of yours arrives.
- The fastest way to the middle point is to run through the center exit on the ground level, up the stairs, jumping from the vent on the balcony area to the wooden bridge near the resupply, through the house and onto the point, or down through the valley and using the side of the rock to jump up.
- A nice strategy is to jump on and off the point in between hassling your opponents, at the very least you'll be able to block them from capturing.
- Despite this, you will usually want to be watching the underside of the point for enemy Scouts attempting to run through the towers on the corners of the bridge the point is on to get behind your team, and to protect from Scouts doing the same as you. This also allows you to run into the enemy and attack them directly from behind, escaping before they can react.
- As usual, staying with the main bulk of your team is often the best way to go, as they need defense from Scouts attacking from behind,
- You can also try to sneak through the defense and enter the enemy base, in order to pull off a back cap after the middle point is captured by your team.
Defending Control Point 3
- Due to the large number of flanking routes here, you as a Scout should be watching the valley area and the house, ready to call out any aggressors to your team so they can deal with them, and pushing back enemy Scouts who try and move in.
- Again you can also attempt to back cap here, to give your team an opportunity to move in, though bear in mind the enemy team will be defending the spire area at this point.
Attacking Control Point 2/4
- When attacking the Spire area, jumping onto the balcony via the small gap near to the resupply will allow you to get on the point more easily, if the enemy team have not yet fallen back.
- If a Soldier or Demoman attempts to jump you here, get off the point and start taking potshots at them from range, until they're forced away and you can move back on. Either that or jump around the point with your double jump to make it hard for them to hit you while shooting them, much the same way you would deal with a Heavy.
- Other than this, as a Scout your job is much the same as usual, watch for enemies behind your team and pick off stragglers who have been weakened by the rest of your team.
Defending Control Point 2/4
- Often when defending the second point you will be in the upper area of the lobby outside last point.
- When this is the case, you will want to be watching the lower right stairs to make sure enemy Scouts do not come out to attack your team.
- Be ready to run back to the second point from this area to stop any back cappers.
- If you are waiting outside the lobby area, you need to get a height advantage, so either stand on the spire to block people trying to capture it, and drop down on enemies from above, or watch the resupply area to stop people coming out from the vent. Your team can deal with the main door to the lobby.
Attacking Control Point 1/5
- Due to the enclosed nature of this point it's best to wait until your team has moved in and attack from the lower right area, or move in directly behind your team and go straight for any enemy Demomen, Heavies, Medics, etc. The reason for this is that all these classes are a huge threat to your team in an enclosed space.
- This is often a time when enemy Scouts attempt to back cap, so do be prepared to leave for the second point to defend if necessary.
- It is often possible to get onto the final point and capture it while no enemies are looking at it, so be aware of where the enemy is looking as well as just the person you're focused on attacking.
- The vents directly behind the final point can be hidden inside of. A Scout can completely conceal himself in these fans, serving as a spot to wait after the Spire is captured to secure a quick victory.
Defending Control Point 1/5
- Here you will want to watch the lower left area and the lower main corridor, for people attempting to sneak onto the point and cap it before your team can react.
- When the enemy moves in you have two choices, firstly to harass them and their main offensive classes, or secondly to run out behind them and attempt to capture the second point before they can do the same to your final point. Otherwise, simply try and protect important members of your team.
Soldier
- The Soldiers ability to Rocket jump is amazingly helpful for attacking and defending control points, especially on the second point where a single rocket jump can elevate you to the top of the spire to block or start a capture.
Pyro
- Pyros can be devastating on this map. The mixed heights at key areas of the map allow for handy use of the compression blast to keep foes at a disadvantage, while the myriad of alternate paths allows more ambush-oriented Pyros to wreak havoc from multiple fronts.
- They have the myriad of alternate paths at their disposal to be used by more ambush-oriented Pyros to wreak havoc from multiple fronts.
Attacking Control Point 3
- The quickest and straightest way to the middle is to drop down after spawning and take the stairs, and then take the low path through the valley. This will often allow you to get the first strike on the enemy.
- The open nature of the middle point allows for a variety of unpredictable attacks from all sides. Use this to your advantage to keep the opponent guessing.
- On the front of each house is a thin wooden ledge. Use this to hop to the low rock, then to the Sniper deck. You can immediately take out any Snipers, Engineers or Sentry Guns posted at the window and will often disrupt the enemy’s opening play, allowing your team to move forward unfettered.
- Taking the rightmost path through the shack will put you right behind the enemy’s offensive, making it an excellent choice for ambushes.
Defending Control Point 3
- When defending, you can make great use of your compression blast, as you have height advantage over almost every route the enemy can attack from. Use it to knock any offenders off of the point or keep them pinned inside their house.
- If enemies are trying to push through the choke point, make your way through the house and ambush them from behind. Using this pincer movement with your team will obliterate the enemy’s offensive.
Attacking Control Point 2/4
- Take the low path behind the house and enter the enemy’s base, making your way to the battlements and picking off any unsuspecting defenders. From here, you can skip half of the grueling climb of the spire and simply jump to the point.
- If the enemy is trying to hold the choke point after your team captures mid, consider requesting ÜberCharge and razing a fiery path through the enemy team while they’re still bottlenecked together.
Defending Control Point 2/4
- Again, compression blast can play a huge role in point defense here as the height advantage offered by CP2 is phenomenal. Use it to knock back rocket jumping Soldiers and send them hurtling toward the ground. The combined damage from the initial rocket jump and fall damage will oftentimes make their health so low that another rocket jump is unfeasible.
- If your team is trying to hold the choke point, take the low path behind the house and try to get behind the enemy. Their main forces will likely be concentrating on the choke point fight, offering you great opportunity for a devastating ambush.
Attacking Control Point 1/5
- Your offensive options begin to be more limited here in tight-quarters. If your team deploys Über, follow them in and rough up the enemy with some fire or hold them in place with the compression blast.
- Taking the lower right path through the base will allow you to get behind the point and behind the enemy. If you’re quick enough, you can attempt to back cap while keeping the enemy at a distance with either a stream of fire or the compression blast.
Defending Control Point 1/5
- The enemy will often be cramped together inside the upper lobby. Take the staircases in the main corridor and lower lobby to ambush the enemy, as they will have nowhere to run. The medium Health pack in the lower lobby should keep you sufficiently patched up.
- Less mobile classes will have to use the lower doorways to enter the base. Keep the enemy back and prevent them from entering by blasting fire at the door. Or lie in wait in the upper lobby and jump down and ambush them as they attempt to move up the stairs.
Demoman
- The lips of the doorways near the final point can be clipped through and sticky traps can be lain in them without being seen.
- A few Sticky Bomb’s on the top of the second point can instantly end nearly all attempts to recapture the point.
Heavy
- When navigating throughout the map, Heavies should try to stay as high as possible and surprise enemies around tight points like those in the house. This will give you an advantage over any classes, which try to hide from you, and makes it very hard for any retreats once catching them off guard.
Engineer
- On Control point 3, a Sentry Gun can be placed inside of the windows, overlooking the central bridge control point. As a level one, your Sentry Gun has just enough space to fire shots at the control point, without exposing too much of itself to be easily destroyed. Best if used when your team is already making an assault on the control point, often at the beginning of a match.
- With a final control point that can be captured in under 4 seconds by one person, an Engineer's Sentry Gun may be the most valuable thing on your team if recapturing point 2/4 is taking too long.
Medic
- Medics will be essential on this map and will have to be protected better because of the large amount of ambush points and wide-open spaces.
- The large open spaces makes a Demoman a prime choice for your Ubercharge to quickly destroy Sentry Guns and wreak havoc on retreating enemies.
Sniper
- Snipers are essential at defending the second point by preventing enemy attempts to push forward by killing medics and picking off enemies on the point.
Spy
- Going under the bridge in the middle and then through the path is generally a good way to get into the enemy base. However, if you use this path too often then the enemies might catch on to you.
- While capturing the last control point, remember that it is the Spy's job to destroy buildings, such as Sentry Guns and Dispensers. This can make a difference between a successful push and a failed one.
- While your team is on it's last two points, and most people fall back on defense, it may be best to go on the offensive. If there are Engineers building Sentry Guns at their spawn, the last thing they will expect is a Spy, so feel free to attack the Engineer and buy your team extra time.
- While defending your team's final two points, be sure to periodically go to spawn and check if their Engineers have set up any Teleporters. If they have set up Teleporters, be sure to destroy them. This is to ensure that enemies are coming to the front lines slower, allowing you to stab them in the back.
- Remember to back off from the front lines (or behind theirs) to find health if you need to. What good is a Spy that goes down in one shot? This can help with getaways, as well.
- A lot of Engineers build in the buildings by the middle control point. Keep this in mind during the first capture of the game, and fighting over the middle control point.