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== Archives ==
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{{Main Page archives}}
* [[/Archive 1|Archive 1]]: July-August 2010
 
* [[/Archive 2|Archive 2]]: September-October 2010
 
  
==Videos for hats==
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== Index update 2019 ==
Completely unnecessary or what? <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:Ereht olleH|Ereht olleH]] ([[User talk:Ereht olleH|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Ereht olleH|contribs]]) 03:22, 15 November 2010</small>
 
: Completely unnecessary. Also please remember to sign your comments with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 03:26, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
== Can We Change the Random Page Link on the Navigation Bar on the Left? ==
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# Shouldn't one of [[Contracker]]  or [[Jungle Inferno Campaign]] take the place of something on the Index Column 1 or 3?  
Whenever I click the "Random Page" link on the left it usually brings up a random page in a language that isn't English. This frustrates me as an English user and I'm sure it also frustrates people who speak a different language like French to click the random page link and receive a link in Japanese. Is there any way we can have language-specific random page links? [[User:Misterslin|<font color="Purple">'''MR SLIN'''</font>]] 13:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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# Shouldn't [[Comics]] take the place of something on the Index Column 1 or 3? 
:We would if we could: [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion#Random Page gives mostly non-English pages]] :( --[[User:CruelCow|CruelCow]] {{sta}} <sup>([[User_talk:CruelCow|talk]])</sup> 13:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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Maybe [[Item Quality]] and [[Critical Hits]] go.
  
== Why isn't there a wiki "rules" section in the navigation bar on the left? ==
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[[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="70B04A">'''M I K A D O 282'''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="70B04A">''' oOOOOo oo oo  '''</font></span>]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|'''''talk''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) 01:30, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
This place is missing a guide that lists things that you shouldn't do on this wiki, like deleting posts and whatnot. I find it odd that it isn't immediately searchable or findable in one FAQ page or similar. [[User:Nanosheep|(nanosheep_inc)]] 03:36, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:We have [[Help:Contents|Help]] in the navigation for that information.  Personally, I think ''Rules'' implies users will be punished if they do not abide by our guidelines, however us staff and the guidelines are here to help new users get into the practises and procedures we abide by here - not punish those who make mistakes. However as you never made the connection that [[Help:Contents|Help]] would list our guidelines, I wouldn't be surprised if other contributors haven't made that connection either; so I think we would have to do something to make that clearer. -[[User:RJackson|<span class="burbg" style="margin-right:1px;text-shadow: #538237 1px 1px 0px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 17:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::Yeah I think "Rules" is harsher than "Help" so it should stay the way it is. [[User:Misterslin|<font color="Purple">'''MR SLIN'''</font>]] 08:45, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
== Sandman Wall Glitch ==
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== An idea for translated main page ==
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There is a navigation section which showed "Guidelines", "Discussion" etc, which doesn't appear for translated home pages.
  
I don't know if this has been posted before but i found this glitch ingame. While using the Sandman's baseball, run back and forth toward a wall while hitting the ball. Make sure to go straight and to keep the ball going in a straight line towards the wall. It might take awhile but it should eventually "disappear". To see what actual happens go to a glass wall and do it. What you'll see is that it goes straight through the wall and still hurts an enemy. --[[User:Delterz|Delterz]] 04:08, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
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And so Dereko tried adding a navigation (which is also shared with other important zh-hans pages) right there to improve the zh-hans page, though without a formal discussion (please forgive me if it's rude).<br />The navigation section includes useful links for both translators and visitors, from where they can enter translation progress page much easilier than before, or use another page I am working on to search for pages using Chinese names.
:It's a known exploit, and documented [[Exploits#Terrain_exploits|here]]. ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 05:55, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:Yeah, I've actually done it before myself. Maybe Valve will patch it, maybe they won't. [[User:PeacekeeperRen|~PeacekeeperRen]] 00:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:It's not really a significant issue so don't expect it to be fixed anytime soon. [[User:Misterslin|Misterslin]] 15:21, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
==Unofficial Community Content==
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You can have a look at [[Main_Page/zh-hans|here]] (very clear with a Chinese TF Logo), and Dereko wonders if it's ok to keep it.
I've noticed that nearly all of the unofficial community content (Mods, maps, etc.) are stubs, marked for cleanup, ect.
 
Do we really need these? There is FPSbanana. That would clean up a LOT of the wiki. --[[User:Kurathedog|Kurathedog]] 21:53, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:I think the general consensus is that we add pages for custom content if it is ''notable''. That is, for example, if a map has been adopted in comp play, is featured on a bunch of servers, etc. ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 21:54, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:: Instead of asking to delete them, why not contribute to them instead? That would be most helpful.--<span style="color:purple">'''''Focusknock'''''</span>  [[Help:Group rights|<span class="burbg">s</span>]] 21:57, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::: I agree with lhavelund. Only notable content should be added to, anything irrelevant or not noteworthy should be marked for deletion. [[User:Cidem|Cidem]] 06:46, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::::I too agree with IHavelund, there are so many maps that are not played or will ever have anything noteworthy to write about [[User:Z Overlord|Z Overlord]] 02:41, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::::I also agree. I think we should only include Stock maps or maps that are so frequently played that they are worth noting. An example that comes to mind was cp_freight before they made it an official map. Something of that level.[[User:Misterslin|Misterslin]] 15:22, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
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Thanks for spending time here :D
== Polycount Pin List? ==
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[[File:User Dereko Name.png|75px|link=User:Dereko]] 14:11, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
  
Since we already have lists for community weapons and self-made items, I think we should make a Polycount Pin list, and possibly include the links to the Polycount threads for each submission. [[User:Wowza|Wowza]] 23:57, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:Good idea (for what it's worth, Wowza has been helping me with some tables of content). We can also do [[Golden Wrench]] listings. ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> {{mod}} <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 23:58, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:I agree, I like this idea myself. I think it would be interesting to see who has those items.[[User:PeacekeeperRen|~PeacekeeperRen]] 00:08, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:This is already available at [http://www.tf2items.com/lists/polycount/ Tf2 Backpack Examiner]. [[User:Lime Blue|~Lime Blue]] 2029, November 14th 2010.
 
:And? That's not the wiki. If any information is available anywhere beyond the wiki, does that mean it shouldn't be added to the wiki? [[User:FlotsamX|FlotsamX]] 01:32, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 
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sounds good I'd would forward the idea!--[[User:Round-the-clock|hj]] 23:45, 16 November 2010 (UTC)  • ([[Special:Contributions/Round-the-clock|contribs]]) </small>
 
:Important: please remember to sign all your posts, using 4 tildes: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> This adds your name and the time and date to the end of your post. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]]  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 21:45, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:: Don't forget the Mapper's Medallion list too, when they are sent. [[User:Swordz|Swordz]] 21:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:I've already started compiling a list that can be found [[User:Moussekateer/listpolycount|here]]. It's very rough at the moment. It's also a mountain of work, trying to cross reference the list of owners from the tf2items list and the Polycount forums entries. Some I've matched using the display pic, some I've had to google their portfolios, some I've had to contact, and some I still do not know what they were given one for. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 01:34, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::I could definitely help with compiling the info. [[User:Wowza|Wowza]] 21:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::: The list now exists for all your viewing pleasure :D [[Polycount_pin_list]] [[User:Scatmanjohn|Scatmanjohn]] 23:47, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::: As does the [[List of Golden Wrench owners]] now. [[User:Moussekateer|Moussekateer]] 06:23, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
 
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== New facts. Seriously. ==
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== Hyperlink name: why don't we just call it 'archive'? ==
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Dear people of the TF wiki,
  
I've been staring at the same facts for quite a while. Let's get some new facts, and a new featured article. ~ <code>[[User:Lhavelund|<font color=red><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">'''lhavelund'''</span></font>]]</code> {{mod}} <sup>([[User_talk:lhavelund|talk]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/lhavelund|contrib]])</sup> 14:31, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
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In the Featured article section,
:I'm sort of new here, so I don't know this. Does this wiki have a monthly or weekly update for the facts or featured articles, or does it stay until changed by someone of higher power?[[User:PeacekeeperRen|~PeacekeeperRen]] 00:12, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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there's a 'Previously featured' hyperlink.
::I think he may be referring to the "Featured Article" and the "Did you know?" sections on the main page. I agree someone should go in and change them on a regular basis. [[User:Misterslin|Misterslin]] 15:29, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:I always thought that the admins were the ones who regularly rotated the facts in and out. Usually I just add a fact to the page (after checking that it hasn't been repeated) and let others take care of changing the front page ones out. --[[User:LordKelvin|LordKelvin]] 17:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:{{c|done}} Rotated the facts.  I'm not sure if we have a proper rotation system in-place, i.e. every month or so.  I'll start a discussion about it and I invite you guys to join in [[Template_talk:Did_you_know_main|here]]. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 17:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
== Dunno where else to put this ==
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but the page which through the hyperlink has current featured article, not only previous featured articles.
  
On the left hand side, under the search tool, there are some links for Team Fortress Classic. Wouldn't it make more sense to link to [[Main Page (Classic)]] instead of team fortress classic wikia? [[User:Psychopath|Psychopath]] 23:04, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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why don't we just named that hyperlink as 'archive'?
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It would be much appropriate name. [[User:123rse|123rse]] ([[User talk:123rse|talk]]) 08:51, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
  
:Agreed. I was thinking this very same thing last night while reviewing some TFC material. We should try to keep links to "in-house" material when the information is available -  [[User:K-Mac|K-Mac]] 16:26, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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: The previous featured articles are right below the current featured article. See [[Template:FeaturedArticle#Previous_featured_articles]] — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] [[Help:Group rights#Moderators|<span class="locbg">lm</span>]][[Help:Language_translation|<span class="locbg">(pt-br)</span>]] 17:04, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
::Good point. -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]] <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 16:27, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
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== Should some form of warning be put in place regarding the leak? ==
== Do we need an Arabic section of the wiki? ==
 
  
"Languages supported officially by the game are supported here. There are a few exceptions, however: Czech and Portuguese (Brazil) are supported by the Steam Translation Server, however, do not yet have TF2 localization files. Arabic has neither, however, will remain supported."
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Source code for TF2 and CSGO was leaked, allowing for RCE. I think some form of warning advising players not to play until Valve responds would be appropriate. [[File:Item icon Salty Dog.png|link=Salty Dog{{if lang}}|40px|Salty Dog]][[User:InfernalShroom|<span><font color="850101"><b><big>InfernalShroom</big></b> </font></span>]][[User_talk:InfernalShroom|<span><font color="850101"><big><b>(Talk)</b></big></font></span>]] 17:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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:Yes<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 17:45, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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::Either of you can make a template (similar to Rick May's Memorial) and I'll put it on the main page. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 17:57, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::Already being worked on.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 18:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::[[Template:Stayhome]] is up! [[File:Killicon flaming huntsman.png|75px|link=]] [[User:VasyaTheWizard|<font color="DB9C1F">'''VasyaTheWizard'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:VasyaTheWizard|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/VasyaTheWizard|<font color="DB9C1F">contributions</font>]])</sup>  18:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::: Admin add the warning as an every page banner? [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|'''''talk''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) 18:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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:::::: I feel like having it on every page would be a bit overkill if we already have it on the main page, what do the others think? [[File:Killicon flaming huntsman.png|75px|link=]] [[User:VasyaTheWizard|<font color="DB9C1F">'''VasyaTheWizard'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:VasyaTheWizard|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/VasyaTheWizard|<font color="DB9C1F">contributions</font>]])</sup>  18:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::: I'd put it on every page. Banner blindness and stuff. And not everyone visits the wiki through the main page, and this is vital information. '''{ [[User:TidB|TidB]]''' | [[User_talk:TidB|t]] | [[Special:Contributions/TidB|c]]''' }''' 18:27, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::::I agree, putting this warning on every page will ensure that anyone who visits the wiki will see it. [[File:Item icon Salty Dog.png|link=Salty Dog{{if lang}}|40px|Salty Dog]][[User:InfernalShroom|<span><font color="850101"><b><big>InfernalShroom</big></b> </font></span>]][[User_talk:InfernalShroom|<span><font color="850101"><big><b>(Talk)</b></big></font></span>]] 18:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::::: The situation is extraordinary and requires that we inform this everyone that comes here and at all times - that means putting the banner everywhere. In "best" case scenario the game becomes unplayable thanks to "just" exploits found in the engine, and at worst we have a real disaster in form of RCE, with a possibility of more than just 1 method of doing that. [[User:Goodjob|Goodjob]] ([[User talk:Goodjob|talk]])
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:::::::::: Good points, I'll look into if it's possible to have it visible on all pages without editing every single page for it. [[File:Killicon flaming huntsman.png|75px|link=]] [[User:VasyaTheWizard|<font color="DB9C1F">'''VasyaTheWizard'''</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:VasyaTheWizard|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/VasyaTheWizard|<font color="DB9C1F">contributions</font>]])</sup>  18:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::::::: The global notice doesn't seem to be working on every page. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 18:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
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::::::::::::Once again, it's just the server cache. Give it a few hours (or days) to become fully stable. [[File:User Wookipan Golden Strawberry.png|10px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User:Wookipan|<span style="color:#db9c1f">'''Wookipan'''</span>]] <small>([[User_talk:Wookipan|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Wookipan|contribs]])</small> 19:47, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
  
If Arabic has neither Steam Translation Server support, or sound/text support in TF2, this means that:
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== Something funky happening with the Full Moon status ==
  
*The amount of Arabic TF2 players who solely speak Arabic is very low, as Team Fortress 2 is geared towards the officially-supported languages.
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[https://i.imgur.com/0y6e3gT.png https://i.imgur.com/0y6e3gT] [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 00:47, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
*The amount of people who are able to translate the English wiki into Arabic are not easily found.
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:Apparently there's also a problem with the Featured Article image. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 00:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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::I somehow fixed the full moon one when I corrected a commented-out spelling mistake in the [[Template:If full moon|If full moon template]]. Don't ask me why changing a commented-out letter made it work again. '''[[User:404UNF|404UNF]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:404UNF|(talk)]]</sup> 01:12, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
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:::Well looks like it fixed the problem with the Featured Article image too. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 01:19, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
  
And as a result, the Arabic wiki is one of the wikis most desperately in need of content. It is missing basic '''essential''' articles, such as class pages and weapons.
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:::: "Google Translation"; maybe something else was going on, but resolved. [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|'''''talk''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) 02:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
  
In any other situation I would suggest finding more contributors, but in Arabic's case I wonder if it's worth it. Who would the Arabic wiki be made for, the one (yes, only one contributor) person who is actively translating it?
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== Rick May's date of death is incorrect ==
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As mentioned in the [[Tribute to Rick May]] and [[w:Rick May|Rick May Wikipedia article]], he passed away on April 8,2020. However, the "Latest Updates" section of main page incorrectly lists it as April 13, 2020. [[File:Item icon Salty Dog.png|link=Salty Dog{{if lang}}|40px|Salty Dog]][[User:InfernalShroom|<span><font color="850101"><b><big>InfernalShroom</big></b> </font></span>]][[User_talk:InfernalShroom|<span><font color="850101"><big><b>(Talk)</b></big></font></span>]] 22:17, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
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:Fixed. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 22:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
  
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== Fencing description ==
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The description of the fencing spy taunt has all knives except Prinny's Machete, although this taunt can be made with her.
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[[User: Fox7314 | Fox7314]] ([[User talk: Fox7314 | talk]]) 09:51, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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:I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about here, there's no mention of the fencing taunt here.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:04, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
  
Your insight would be appreciated.
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==a way to improve the wiki==
[[User:FlotsamX|FlotsamX]] 23:57, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
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What if we have a page where we discuss weapon, cosmetic, map, action item, game mode, and taunt ideas?[[User:Msmeal18|Msmeal18]] ([[User talk:Msmeal18|talk]]) 23:55, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
: I really don't think it is worth keeping up an Arabic section of this website. However, if that person is willing to put the time into doing so then let him do it. Then again, he's probably just doing it to rack up edits and since nobody else here speaks Arabic there is nobody to verify whether or not he is writing legitimate things...[[User:Misterslin|Misterslin]] 15:28, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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:Not what the wiki is for. You may make a page on your own user space but otherwise, use the steam discussion forums.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 23:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
::{{c|Delete}} I don't want to sound like a jerk, but the facts are that we might not need it, we don't have the resources to put it together properly, and we have no way of ensuring quality info. Whether this lone user is making stuff up or legitimately contributing, all translators should have a working understanding of English. That means that even if we shut down the Arabic pages, he should still be able to contribute in a meaningful way. '''::'''[[User:Scurve|<font color="#D462FF">'''''Scurve'''''</font>]] [[File:User_scurve_monkey_sm.gif]]'''::''' 23:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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::how do I do dat[[User:Msmeal18|Msmeal18]] ([[User talk:Msmeal18|talk]]) 00:00, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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::: You need to create a page that says "<nowiki>https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Msmeal18/THENAMEYOUWISH</nowiki>" · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 00:05, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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:::: But I want a place where everyone can share there ideas. [[User:Msmeal18|Msmeal18]] ([[User talk:Msmeal18|talk]]) 22:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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::::: If you add a notice at the top saying anyone can edit it and add their own ideas, but you reserve the right to remove any you see unfit then you basically have your own moderated page. There are several templates you can use to make suggestions just look like real stats. A page such as this on the mainspace is not a good fit for the wiki, nor would it really have any purpose besides being a place for discussion (Which is the job for forums, not wikipedias).<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 23:01, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
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:::::: Here’s the link: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Msmeal18/Ideas [[User:Msmeal18|Msmeal18]] ([[User talk:Msmeal18|talk]]) 00:20, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
  
:I also dont think we need an Arabic wiki. <small>--''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' [[User:Thespy|Thespy]] ([[User talk:Thespy|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Thespy|contribs]]) 19:59, 11 November 2010</small>
 
::Please sign your comments with a series of four tildes. '''::'''[[User:Scurve|<font color="#D462FF">'''''Scurve'''''</font>]] [[File:User_scurve_monkey_sm.gif]]'''::''' 23:08, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::{{c|Keep}} Hello guys, I'm Alsoodani, the translator for the Arabic section. Traditionally, most game companies do not have official game translation for Arabic.  The market for Arabic speaking countries is diverse. Many do not have access to offer official products from outside. Many of you are asking '''What is the point of having an Arabic section if no one uses it?''' On the contrary, there are many Arabic users on the internet who play Valve games including Team Fortress 2! I have visited my home country Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Morocco, the UAE, Syria, and Lebanon. They all have sparse, but growing gaming communities! As for what got me to do this: I am currently living in a dorm with Arabic exchange students helping them out and generally translating for them (I double major in Arabic and Nueroscience) who don't speak a lick of good English. What got me started on this project was that they happen to play Steam games as well (mainly Counter-Strike, but they do play TF2) and the amount of information available online for Arabic-speaking gamers is very, very limited (if you don't count broken Google Translations). As a wiki contributer and as a student working on his Arabic Major I feel it is my duty to help out. I repeat, '''This effort is not being wasted.'''
 
  
::For a general (very general) sample on the number of forums discussing Team Fortress 2 Check out this Google Search filtering only Arabic pages shown discussing Team Fortress 2: [http://www.google.com/search?q=team+fortress+2&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=2nM&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&prmdo=1&num=10&lr=lang_ar&ft=i&cr=&safe=off Google Link] Once the front page and the major articles are established, instead of our Arabic-speaking Team Fortress 2 brethren cluelessly playing the game, they will have information at the '''Official''' Team Fortress 2 wiki! For those debating about my credentials or the accuracy of the actual Arabic, I am currently partially majoring in Arabic and am a senior in college. For those wondering if there will be more contributes, I have only started this project for a month. There will be more translators. For those, who think I am doing this for petty reasons such as "wracking up edits", I say to you: I translate whole pages one by one and there is currently approx. 1000 pages of English. That would mean if I translated everything, it would only be a mere apporx. 1000 edits. That is not a substantial amount to "wrack up" anything. It would be foolish to do so.
 
  
:: I feel that it is strange that I must defend a top spoken language in the world that is even spoken more than most of the supported languages over on the Team Fortress 2 wiki! I ask those that voted for removal to reconsider. I can understand a needed removal if it was some obscure language and that there are no users from that language, but this is not true. Simply put, Arabic translations are needed and their will be more translators past the infancy of this project. I feel it is my duty to inform those who are voting to remove the Arabic section on how this will affect the Arabic gaming community. [[User:Alsoodani|Alsoodani]] 00:09, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
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::::: @[[User:Msmeal18|Msmeal18]] Reply to the 22:53 post : I want to amplify; a place "where we discuss weapon, cosmetic, map, action item, game mode, and taunt ideas?" would be a forum or a workshop. Those already exist. Tfwiki is chartered as an encyclopedia, "Its goal is to provide ''Team Fortress 2'' players with information that they will find useful to further their understanding of the game", not toe provide for community development of the game.
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::::: Additionally, this [[Talk:Main Page]] is exclusively for discussion of the [[Main Page]]. As stated in the notice at the top this Talk page, "This page is not for general discussion of TF2 or the wiki." This means that significant changes to the mission of the wiki should be discussed at [[Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion]], not here.
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::::: [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>❄</small>❄❄❄❄<small>❄ ❄❄  ❄❄</small></font></span>]] ([[User_talk:Mikado282|'''''talk''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) 00:38, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
  
::: {{c|agree}} I must agree with [[User:Alsoodani|Alsoodani]]. His effort seem genuine and I'd say there's a big overlap in Arabic people who play TF2 and doesn't understand very well English. —  [[File:Item_icon_Bonk!_Atomic_Punch.png|link=http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Neo_Player|25px]] [[User:Neo_Player|<span style="color: #FF6600; font-style: italic; font-weight: bold; text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 2px;">Neo_Player</span>]] <sup>([[User_talk:Neo_Player|<span style="background: #FFFF00; color: #FF0000; padding: 0 1px;">t</span>]] ▪ [[Special:Contributions/Neo_Player|<span style="background: #FF0000; color: #FFFF00; padding: 0 1px;">c</span>]])</sup> 00:18, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
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== Empty Subpages ==
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{{c|info}}This discussion has moved to [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Discussion#Do_we_need_an_Arabic_section_of_the_wiki.3F]]. -[[User:RJackson|<span style="background-color:#FF0000;color:white;font-size:0.7em;padding: 0 2px;">RJ</span>]]{{Sta}} 01:48, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 
{{Discussion header|bottom}}
 
  
== Secret audio responses ==
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So I've been trying to clean out the "uncategorized pages" special page, and I think I've done it. <br />
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Except for two pages: "Main Page/Page.css" and "Main Page/Page.js". These two pages are weird. For one thing, they're both blank. Main Page/Page.css merely displays the text "// Empty". That is also the full content of its source code. Main Page/Page.js is about four times as elaborate, with source code consisting of "// Empty but protected from edits." For another thing, they're both, well, uncategorized. For a third thing, they're both (as Page.js says) protected from edits.<br />
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Are these pages waiting to be edited for some greater purpose? Do they have hidden code that's necessary for the wiki's function? Are the required to sate the hunger of some ravenous spaghetti code monster? Or..?<br />
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And what should be done about them? Do we just leave them be and never see the glory of an empty [[Special:Uncategorizedpages]]? [[User:Kestrelguy|Kestrelguy]] ([[User talk:Kestrelguy|talk]]) 02:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
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: I think they are hidden and protected · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 02:14, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
  
Today I got some kills underwater (also 1 domination i think) and I heard the Engineer saying something that I can't find on the audio responses page. It was something like:
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== [[TFW:April Fools' Day/2021/Main Page|TF95 theme]] ==
"6 feet under", or "Do I have to to say 6 feet down under".
 
  
Is this real with every class?<small>-- [[User:Jem|Jem]] ([[User talk:Jem|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Jem|contribs]]) 20:28, 13 November 2010</small>
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Can we make TF95 an optional theme you can activate anytime? I love Windows 95 and I love this style.
: What you describe is the Engineer's Domination line for the Sniper. [[Engineer responses#Dominating a Sniper|see here]]. It is not a secret or hidden audio response. --<span style="color:purple">'''''Focusknock'''''</span>  [[Help:Group rights|<span class="burbg">s</span>]] 19:31, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
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[[User:ClonaClox9999|ClonaClox9999]] ([[User talk:ClonaClox9999|talk]]) 18:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
  
:: Ah, I couldn't find it because i was underwater, and it said 6 feet under. I thought it had something to with the water. Thanks.
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:I must agree, it’s nice looking
[[User:Jem|Jem]] 20:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
== Haven't had any item drops for a week! ==
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:[[User:Calcium fiend|Calcium fiend]] ([[User talk:Calcium fiend|talk]]) 18:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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::Heyo, I'm the one that made the TF95 theme. Glad you guys like it <3. I have thought about making it into a toggleable skin due to the many requests, but no promises. In the meantime, I've put up the code @ [https://pastebin.com/ANXBVJTr pastebin] for you to use locally. Simply create the page {{code|User:<yourusername>/common.css}}, or go into Preferences > Appearance, click on 'Custom CSS' then paste the code. You may get some warnings from MediaWiki (the software that the wiki uses) about possible errors; just ignore those and save anyway - it's just due to the formatter that I used. Also, please note that it won't have the dialog box or the popup ad, sadly. [[File:User Wookipan Golden Strawberry.png|10px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User:Wookipan|<span style="color:#db9c1f">'''Wookipan'''</span>]] <small>([[User_talk:Wookipan|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Wookipan|contribs]])</small> 19:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
  
Now, I've already posted this same question on the Steam Forums and Steam Support and neither one has been any help so here goes.
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== Add latest news ==
  
Last week I went on an achievement server in team fortress 2 that I've never been on ("Achievement_Dr Cola" or something like that). Now, when Wednesday came and the item drops started to restart for everyone, I got two item drops on the morning of Thursday, and then I went on that achievement server again (because I thought it was pretty neat and I hadn't thought that that might be the cause of the item drop issues). Now it is Saturday and I haven't gotten a single item drop since Thursday!
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I'd like to suggest adding a new field under "Latest updates" mirroring the [https://www.teamfortress.com/?tab=news News section] of the Blog. [https://i.imgur.com/TyKnZ61.png Example]. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] [[Help:Group rights#Moderators|<span class="locbg">lm</span>]][[Help:Language_translation|<span class="locbg">(pt-br)</span>]] 12:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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:{{c|Support}}<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 13:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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::{{c|Support}} [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 16:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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:::{{c|Support}} [[User:Mgpt|Mgpt]] ([[User talk:Mgpt|talk]]) 16:42, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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::::{{c|Support}} Idk why it didn't exist before · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 21:02, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
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:::::{{c|Support}} [[File:User Denied signature.jpg|50px|link=User:Denied]] [[User:Denied|Denied]] [[User talk:Denied|(Talk)]] 18:07, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
  
Now Steam Support is telling me that I should wait it out but no items for weeks is pretty bad. So, I would like to know if any of you guys know of any alternative solution besides "wait it out."[[User:Hazmatt|Hazmatt]] 23:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
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:::::: {{c|done}}. [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] [[Help:Group rights#Moderators|<span class="locbg">lm</span>]][[Help:Language_translation|<span class="locbg">(pt-br)</span>]] 11:23, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
: You just got exceptionally unlucky. Those two drops reached your drop cap. The fact that you were on an idle server does not mean you lose any items. --[[File:User Firestorm Flame.png]] [[User:Firestorm|<span style="text-shadow:orange 0px 0px 3px;"><font color="#FF6600"><tt><big><u>'''Firestorm'''</u></big></tt></font>]] {{mod}}</span> 03:31, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::Agreed. This has happened to me several times (only about 5 drops a week). Best bet is to wait it out and if it does not improve in a few weeks try playing on "more popular" servers. If the idle server loses connection to steam master servers(and you don't notice), you may not be receiving your drops due to that, but that is kind of a stretch. Hope that helps [[User:K-Mac|K-Mac]] 06:15, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 
:::Why is this Main Page discussion material? -- [[User:En_Ex|En Ex]]  <sub>([[User_talk:En_Ex|talk]])</sub> 06:28, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
 
::::Happens to me more often than not. I've only found one item this week. Some weeks are better than others I guess, but I normally just wait it out. [[User:Mr.JimmyBojangles|Mr.JimmyBojangles]] 02:32, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
 
  
==Danish Wiki==
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== long long ago... ==
  
I'm in the process of expanding the danish part of this wiki, but I can't seem to find edit for Wiki main page eng to put a link to the danish main.
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It is at this awkward moment the latest blog post is almost 700 days ago, and I was wondering if it will be better showing it like "x Years x Month x Days ago"? I tried to dig through the templates but I can't find the one handling this number.
Orb
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--[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 10:22, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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: Find out if this is desired. Then you could write/plagiarize a template.
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: [[User:Mikado282|<span style="font-family: Impact"><font color="db9c1f">''' M I K A D O 282 '''</font></span><span style="font-family: Arial "><font color="00ff00"> <small>⊙</small>⊙⊙⊙⊙<small>⊙ ⊙⊙  ⊙⊙</small></font></span>]] <!-- --
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--> <small> ([[User:Mikado282/Contact Mikado282|Talk with Mikado282 (SM)]]) | [[Special:Contributions/Mikado282|'''''contribs''''']]) ([[User:Mikado282/Help Wanted!|'''''Help Wanted!''''']]) </small> 01:11, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
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== dyk references ==
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I just noticed that references in dyk sections in main page all got dumped into the bottom of the main page, this does not look nice and maybe there is a better way to handle this? --[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 17:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
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:Should be fixed soon, I've removed the references and replaced them with square brackets as they should not have references in the first place.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:33, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
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== When is the Scream Fortress tag gonna be removed?  ==
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So, admins, it’s November 2nd, and it’s past Halloween. When is the Scream Fortress tag gonna be removed?
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[[User:Soldurian|Soldurian]] ([[User talk:Soldurian|talk]]) 14:28, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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:Scream Fortress ends 7 November.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 14:31, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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::Oh.
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::[[User:Soldurian|Soldurian]] ([[User talk:Soldurian|talk]]) 14:55, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
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== Banner seems to be incorrectly cropped/resized ==
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Compared to the [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/images/3/3a/Main_Page_event_Summer_2023_Pack.png original image], [https://i.imgur.com/5rS6G93.png this] doesn't look quite right.<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 13:16, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
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:Should be fixed now. Thanks for the heads-up~ — [[User:Wookipan|<span style="color:#db9c1f">'''Wookipan'''</span>]] <small>([[User_talk:Wookipan|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Wookipan|contribs]])</small> 19:03, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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::It's correct now. Thank you very much for your attention!<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 19:59, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
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== Twitter/X ==
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When Twitter is mentioned in references, quotes, or whatever other context, should it still be called Twitter, X or both "Twitter/X", or something else? It's still rebranding but most mostly complete, though Wikipedia is still slow about it. Right now I'm just using Twitter/X for clarity but not to seem outdated.--[[File:Leaderboard class allclass.png|15px|link=]] [[User:Akolyth|<span style="font-size: 14px; font-family: Trebuchet MS">'''Akolyth'''</span>]] ([[User_talk:Akolyth|talk]]) 19:18, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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:Generally the site isn't mentioned, as it should be an archived version of it. Simply describing what the link contains is enough (e.g. "Creator confirming reference"). Please also keep discussions not about the Main Page to [[TFW:Discussion]] instead of here, as this is about the main page only.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 19:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
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== "Did you know" bugged fact ==
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For me, the "Did you know" fact number four appears as follows:
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<code><nowiki>{{#switch:Main Page|#default=...that you can combine the Atomizer and the Force-A-Nature to perform four jumps in mid-air?|en=...that you can combine the Atomizer and the Force-A-Nature to perform four jumps in mid-air?|ru=...вместе с Расщепителем и Неумолимой силой можно выполнить четвёртый прыжок?|zh-hans=…你可以搭配[[Atomizer}]和Force-A-Nature在半空中完成四段跳?|{{dictionary/items/atomizer}]和force-a-nature在半空中完成四段跳?|null=}}]]</nowiki></code>
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I investigated [[Template:Did you know]], [[Template:Did you know/main]], [[Template:Did you know/list]], and [https://wiki.teamfortress.com/w/index.php?title=Template:Dictionary/common_strings&action=edit&section=59 common strings in the dictionary related to DYK], but I couldn't find the problem.<br/>[[User:Tiagoquix|<font color="#1e90ff">Tiagoquix</font>]] ([[User talk:Tiagoquix|<font color="#19c819">talk</font>]]) 12:37, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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:Should be fixed (soon), it said <nowiki>{{item link|Atomizer}] instead of {{item link|Atomizer}}</nowiki>, this broke the code.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 12:51, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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== The Bot Crisis ==
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Is it a good idea to maybe make a page dedicated about the bot crisis and/or the #SaveTF2 - #FixTF2 Campaign? [[User:QwertyPcGaming|QwertyPcGaming]] ([[User talk:QwertyPcGaming|talk]]) 17:19, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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: Doing that would violate the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Policies#Community_engagement|Community engagement policy]]. The wiki itself simply can't do something like that, it's against the rules. Individual editors could promote it but the wiki itself can't endorse the campaign because it's not officially endorsed by Valve. Putting #FixTF2 on the main page is going to be a no. Thank you for understanding. [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 17:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
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::Additionally, it is in breach of the [[Team Fortress Wiki:Policies#Community websites|community websites policy]].<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 17:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 14:39, 25 September 2024



Index update 2019

  1. Shouldn't one of Contracker or Jungle Inferno Campaign take the place of something on the Index Column 1 or 3?
  2. Shouldn't Comics take the place of something on the Index Column 1 or 3?

Maybe Item Quality and Critical Hits go.

M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (Help Wanted!) 01:30, 6 April 2019 (UTC)

An idea for translated main page

There is a navigation section which showed "Guidelines", "Discussion" etc, which doesn't appear for translated home pages.

And so Dereko tried adding a navigation (which is also shared with other important zh-hans pages) right there to improve the zh-hans page, though without a formal discussion (please forgive me if it's rude).
The navigation section includes useful links for both translators and visitors, from where they can enter translation progress page much easilier than before, or use another page I am working on to search for pages using Chinese names.

You can have a look at here (very clear with a Chinese TF Logo), and Dereko wonders if it's ok to keep it.

Thanks for spending time here :D User Dereko Name.png 14:11, 17 November 2019 (UTC)


Hyperlink name: why don't we just call it 'archive'?

Dear people of the TF wiki,

In the Featured article section, there's a 'Previously featured' hyperlink.

but the page which through the hyperlink has current featured article, not only previous featured articles.

why don't we just named that hyperlink as 'archive'? It would be much appropriate name. 123rse (talk) 08:51, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

The previous featured articles are right below the current featured article. See Template:FeaturedArticle#Previous_featured_articlesTark lm(pt-br) 17:04, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Should some form of warning be put in place regarding the leak?

Source code for TF2 and CSGO was leaked, allowing for RCE. I think some form of warning advising players not to play until Valve responds would be appropriate. Salty DogInfernalShroom (Talk) 17:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Yes
GrampaSwood (talk) 17:45, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Either of you can make a template (similar to Rick May's Memorial) and I'll put it on the main page. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 17:57, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Already being worked on.
GrampaSwood (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Template:Stayhome is up! Killicon flaming huntsman.png VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 18:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Admin add the warning as an every page banner? M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (talk) (Help Wanted!) 18:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
I feel like having it on every page would be a bit overkill if we already have it on the main page, what do the others think? Killicon flaming huntsman.png VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 18:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
I'd put it on every page. Banner blindness and stuff. And not everyone visits the wiki through the main page, and this is vital information. { TidB | t | c } 18:27, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
I agree, putting this warning on every page will ensure that anyone who visits the wiki will see it. Salty DogInfernalShroom (Talk) 18:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
The situation is extraordinary and requires that we inform this everyone that comes here and at all times - that means putting the banner everywhere. In "best" case scenario the game becomes unplayable thanks to "just" exploits found in the engine, and at worst we have a real disaster in form of RCE, with a possibility of more than just 1 method of doing that. Goodjob (talk)
Good points, I'll look into if it's possible to have it visible on all pages without editing every single page for it. Killicon flaming huntsman.png VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 18:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
The global notice doesn't seem to be working on every page. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 18:51, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Once again, it's just the server cache. Give it a few hours (or days) to become fully stable. User Wookipan Golden Strawberry.png Wookipan (talk | contribs) 19:47, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

Something funky happening with the Full Moon status

https://i.imgur.com/0y6e3gT User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 00:47, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Apparently there's also a problem with the Featured Article image. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 00:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
I somehow fixed the full moon one when I corrected a commented-out spelling mistake in the If full moon template. Don't ask me why changing a commented-out letter made it work again. 404UNF (talk) 01:12, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Well looks like it fixed the problem with the Featured Article image too. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 01:19, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
"Google Translation"; maybe something else was going on, but resolved. M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (talk) (Help Wanted!) 02:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Rick May's date of death is incorrect

As mentioned in the Tribute to Rick May and Rick May Wikipedia article, he passed away on April 8,2020. However, the "Latest Updates" section of main page incorrectly lists it as April 13, 2020. Salty DogInfernalShroom (Talk) 22:17, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 22:27, 6 May 2020 (UTC)

Fencing description

The description of the fencing spy taunt has all knives except Prinny's Machete, although this taunt can be made with her. Fox7314 ( talk) 09:51, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about here, there's no mention of the fencing taunt here.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:04, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

a way to improve the wiki

What if we have a page where we discuss weapon, cosmetic, map, action item, game mode, and taunt ideas?Msmeal18 (talk) 23:55, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Not what the wiki is for. You may make a page on your own user space but otherwise, use the steam discussion forums.
GrampaSwood (talk) 23:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
how do I do datMsmeal18 (talk) 00:00, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
You need to create a page that says "https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Msmeal18/THENAMEYOUWISH" · Ashe (talk) 00:05, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
But I want a place where everyone can share there ideas. Msmeal18 (talk) 22:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
If you add a notice at the top saying anyone can edit it and add their own ideas, but you reserve the right to remove any you see unfit then you basically have your own moderated page. There are several templates you can use to make suggestions just look like real stats. A page such as this on the mainspace is not a good fit for the wiki, nor would it really have any purpose besides being a place for discussion (Which is the job for forums, not wikipedias).
GrampaSwood (talk) 23:01, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Here’s the link: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Msmeal18/Ideas Msmeal18 (talk) 00:20, 10 January 2021 (UTC)


@Msmeal18 Reply to the 22:53 post : I want to amplify; a place "where we discuss weapon, cosmetic, map, action item, game mode, and taunt ideas?" would be a forum or a workshop. Those already exist. Tfwiki is chartered as an encyclopedia, "Its goal is to provide Team Fortress 2 players with information that they will find useful to further their understanding of the game", not toe provide for community development of the game.
Additionally, this Talk:Main Page is exclusively for discussion of the Main Page. As stated in the notice at the top this Talk page, "This page is not for general discussion of TF2 or the wiki." This means that significant changes to the mission of the wiki should be discussed at Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion, not here.
M I K A D O 282 ❄❄❄❄❄ ❄❄ ❄❄ (talk) (Help Wanted!) 00:38, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Empty Subpages

So I've been trying to clean out the "uncategorized pages" special page, and I think I've done it.
Except for two pages: "Main Page/Page.css" and "Main Page/Page.js". These two pages are weird. For one thing, they're both blank. Main Page/Page.css merely displays the text "// Empty". That is also the full content of its source code. Main Page/Page.js is about four times as elaborate, with source code consisting of "// Empty but protected from edits." For another thing, they're both, well, uncategorized. For a third thing, they're both (as Page.js says) protected from edits.
Are these pages waiting to be edited for some greater purpose? Do they have hidden code that's necessary for the wiki's function? Are the required to sate the hunger of some ravenous spaghetti code monster? Or..?
And what should be done about them? Do we just leave them be and never see the glory of an empty Special:Uncategorizedpages? Kestrelguy (talk) 02:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

I think they are hidden and protected · Ashe (talk) 02:14, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

TF95 theme

Can we make TF95 an optional theme you can activate anytime? I love Windows 95 and I love this style.

ClonaClox9999 (talk) 18:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

I must agree, it’s nice looking
Calcium fiend (talk) 18:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
Heyo, I'm the one that made the TF95 theme. Glad you guys like it <3. I have thought about making it into a toggleable skin due to the many requests, but no promises. In the meantime, I've put up the code @ pastebin for you to use locally. Simply create the page User:<yourusername>/common.css, or go into Preferences > Appearance, click on 'Custom CSS' then paste the code. You may get some warnings from MediaWiki (the software that the wiki uses) about possible errors; just ignore those and save anyway - it's just due to the formatter that I used. Also, please note that it won't have the dialog box or the popup ad, sadly. User Wookipan Golden Strawberry.png Wookipan (talk | contribs) 19:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Add latest news

I'd like to suggest adding a new field under "Latest updates" mirroring the News section of the Blog. Example. — Tark lm(pt-br) 12:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Pictogram plus.png Support
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png Support User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 16:25, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png Support Mgpt (talk) 16:42, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png Support Idk why it didn't exist before · Ashe (talk) 21:02, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png Support User Denied signature.jpg Denied (Talk) 18:07, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Pictogram tick.png Done. — Tark lm(pt-br) 11:23, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

long long ago...

It is at this awkward moment the latest blog post is almost 700 days ago, and I was wondering if it will be better showing it like "x Years x Month x Days ago"? I tried to dig through the templates but I can't find the one handling this number.

--AlexT 10:22, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Find out if this is desired. Then you could write/plagiarize a template.
M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 01:11, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

dyk references

I just noticed that references in dyk sections in main page all got dumped into the bottom of the main page, this does not look nice and maybe there is a better way to handle this? --AlexT 17:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Should be fixed soon, I've removed the references and replaced them with square brackets as they should not have references in the first place.
GrampaSwood (talk) 17:33, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

When is the Scream Fortress tag gonna be removed?

So, admins, it’s November 2nd, and it’s past Halloween. When is the Scream Fortress tag gonna be removed? Soldurian (talk) 14:28, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Scream Fortress ends 7 November.
GrampaSwood (talk) 14:31, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
Oh.
Soldurian (talk) 14:55, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Compared to the original image, this doesn't look quite right.
Tiagoquix (talk) 13:16, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

Should be fixed now. Thanks for the heads-up~ — Wookipan (talk | contribs) 19:03, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
It's correct now. Thank you very much for your attention!
Tiagoquix (talk) 19:59, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Twitter/X

When Twitter is mentioned in references, quotes, or whatever other context, should it still be called Twitter, X or both "Twitter/X", or something else? It's still rebranding but most mostly complete, though Wikipedia is still slow about it. Right now I'm just using Twitter/X for clarity but not to seem outdated.--Leaderboard class allclass.png Akolyth (talk) 19:18, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Generally the site isn't mentioned, as it should be an archived version of it. Simply describing what the link contains is enough (e.g. "Creator confirming reference"). Please also keep discussions not about the Main Page to TFW:Discussion instead of here, as this is about the main page only.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

"Did you know" bugged fact

For me, the "Did you know" fact number four appears as follows:

{{#switch:Main Page|#default=...that you can combine the Atomizer and the Force-A-Nature to perform four jumps in mid-air?|en=...that you can combine the Atomizer and the Force-A-Nature to perform four jumps in mid-air?|ru=...вместе с Расщепителем и Неумолимой силой можно выполнить четвёртый прыжок?|zh-hans=…你可以搭配[[Atomizer}]和Force-A-Nature在半空中完成四段跳?|{{dictionary/items/atomizer}]和force-a-nature在半空中完成四段跳?|null=}}]]

I investigated Template:Did you know, Template:Did you know/main, Template:Did you know/list, and common strings in the dictionary related to DYK, but I couldn't find the problem.
Tiagoquix (talk) 12:37, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Should be fixed (soon), it said {{item link|Atomizer}] instead of {{item link|Atomizer}}, this broke the code.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 12:51, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

The Bot Crisis

Is it a good idea to maybe make a page dedicated about the bot crisis and/or the #SaveTF2 - #FixTF2 Campaign? QwertyPcGaming (talk) 17:19, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Doing that would violate the Community engagement policy. The wiki itself simply can't do something like that, it's against the rules. Individual editors could promote it but the wiki itself can't endorse the campaign because it's not officially endorsed by Valve. Putting #FixTF2 on the main page is going to be a no. Thank you for understanding. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 17:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
Additionally, it is in breach of the community websites policy.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 17:57, 6 June 2024 (UTC)