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:Personally, I am in favor of maintaining the English alphabetical order. You can read my entire reasoning [[User_talk:BrazilianNut/2019#Desambiguações|here]] (get your online translator on), but to summarize it: it offers more consistency and is much more practical. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 07:34, 25 February 2024 (UTC) | :Personally, I am in favor of maintaining the English alphabetical order. You can read my entire reasoning [[User_talk:BrazilianNut/2019#Desambiguações|here]] (get your online translator on), but to summarize it: it offers more consistency and is much more practical. - [[User:BrazilianNut|BrazilianNut]] ([[User talk:BrazilianNut|talk]]) 07:34, 25 February 2024 (UTC) | ||
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Contents
- 1 Index update 2019
- 2 An idea for translated main page
- 3 Hyperlink name: why don't we just call it 'archive'?
- 4 Should some form of warning be put in place regarding the leak?
- 5 Something funky happening with the Full Moon status
- 6 Rick May's date of death is incorrect
- 7 Fencing description
- 8 a way to improve the wiki
- 9 Empty Subpages
- 10 TF95 theme
- 11 Add latest news
- 12 long long ago...
- 13 dyk references
- 14 When is the Scream Fortress tag gonna be removed?
- 15 Banner seems to be incorrectly cropped/resized
- 16 Twitter/X
- 17 "Did you know" bugged fact
- 18 Alphabetical ordering on non-English disambiguation pages
Index update 2019
- Shouldn't one of Contracker or Jungle Inferno Campaign take the place of something on the Index Column 1 or 3?
- Shouldn't Comics take the place of something on the Index Column 1 or 3?
Maybe Item Quality and Critical Hits go.
M I K A D O 282 oOOOOo oo oo (talk) (Help Wanted!) 01:30, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
An idea for translated main page
There is a navigation section which showed "Guidelines", "Discussion" etc, which doesn't appear for translated home pages.
And so Dereko tried adding a navigation (which is also shared with other important zh-hans pages) right there to improve the zh-hans page, though without a formal discussion (please forgive me if it's rude).
The navigation section includes useful links for both translators and visitors, from where they can enter translation progress page much easilier than before, or use another page I am working on to search for pages using Chinese names.
You can have a look at here (very clear with a Chinese TF Logo), and Dereko wonders if it's ok to keep it.
Thanks for spending time here :D 14:11, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Hyperlink name: why don't we just call it 'archive'?
Dear people of the TF wiki,
In the Featured article section, there's a 'Previously featured' hyperlink.
but the page which through the hyperlink has current featured article, not only previous featured articles.
why don't we just named that hyperlink as 'archive'? It would be much appropriate name. 123rse (talk) 08:51, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
- The previous featured articles are right below the current featured article. See Template:FeaturedArticle#Previous_featured_articles — Tark lm(pt-br) 17:04, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Should some form of warning be put in place regarding the leak?
Source code for TF2 and CSGO was leaked, allowing for RCE. I think some form of warning advising players not to play until Valve responds would be appropriate. InfernalShroom (Talk) 17:43, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Yes
GrampaSwood (talk) 17:45, 22 April 2020 (UTC)- Either of you can make a template (similar to Rick May's Memorial) and I'll put it on the main page. - ▪ - 17:57, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Already being worked on.
GrampaSwood (talk) 18:01, 22 April 2020 (UTC)- Template:Stayhome is up! VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 18:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Admin add the warning as an every page banner? M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (talk) (Help Wanted!) 18:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- I feel like having it on every page would be a bit overkill if we already have it on the main page, what do the others think? VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 18:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'd put it on every page. Banner blindness and stuff. And not everyone visits the wiki through the main page, and this is vital information. { TidB | t | c } 18:27, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- I agree, putting this warning on every page will ensure that anyone who visits the wiki will see it. InfernalShroom (Talk) 18:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- The situation is extraordinary and requires that we inform this everyone that comes here and at all times - that means putting the banner everywhere. In "best" case scenario the game becomes unplayable thanks to "just" exploits found in the engine, and at worst we have a real disaster in form of RCE, with a possibility of more than just 1 method of doing that. Goodjob (talk)
- Good points, I'll look into if it's possible to have it visible on all pages without editing every single page for it. VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 18:37, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- The situation is extraordinary and requires that we inform this everyone that comes here and at all times - that means putting the banner everywhere. In "best" case scenario the game becomes unplayable thanks to "just" exploits found in the engine, and at worst we have a real disaster in form of RCE, with a possibility of more than just 1 method of doing that. Goodjob (talk)
- I agree, putting this warning on every page will ensure that anyone who visits the wiki will see it. InfernalShroom (Talk) 18:29, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- I'd put it on every page. Banner blindness and stuff. And not everyone visits the wiki through the main page, and this is vital information. { TidB | t | c } 18:27, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- I feel like having it on every page would be a bit overkill if we already have it on the main page, what do the others think? VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 18:25, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Admin add the warning as an every page banner? M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (talk) (Help Wanted!) 18:23, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Template:Stayhome is up! VasyaTheWizard (talk) • (contributions) 18:05, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
- Already being worked on.
- Either of you can make a template (similar to Rick May's Memorial) and I'll put it on the main page. - ▪ - 17:57, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
Something funky happening with the Full Moon status
https://i.imgur.com/0y6e3gT - ▪ - 00:47, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- Apparently there's also a problem with the Featured Article image. - ▪ - 00:48, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- I somehow fixed the full moon one when I corrected a commented-out spelling mistake in the If full moon template. Don't ask me why changing a commented-out letter made it work again. 404UNF (talk) 01:12, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
- "Google Translation"; maybe something else was going on, but resolved. M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (talk) (Help Wanted!) 02:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
Rick May's date of death is incorrect
As mentioned in the Tribute to Rick May and Rick May Wikipedia article, he passed away on April 8,2020. However, the "Latest Updates" section of main page incorrectly lists it as April 13, 2020. InfernalShroom (Talk) 22:17, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
Fencing description
The description of the fencing spy taunt has all knives except Prinny's Machete, although this taunt can be made with her. Fox7314 ( talk) 09:51, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not exactly sure what you're talking about here, there's no mention of the fencing taunt here.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:04, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
a way to improve the wiki
What if we have a page where we discuss weapon, cosmetic, map, action item, game mode, and taunt ideas?Msmeal18 (talk) 23:55, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
- Not what the wiki is for. You may make a page on your own user space but otherwise, use the steam discussion forums.
GrampaSwood (talk) 23:57, 8 January 2021 (UTC)- how do I do datMsmeal18 (talk) 00:00, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- You need to create a page that says "https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Msmeal18/THENAMEYOUWISH" · Ashe (talk) 00:05, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- But I want a place where everyone can share there ideas. Msmeal18 (talk) 22:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- If you add a notice at the top saying anyone can edit it and add their own ideas, but you reserve the right to remove any you see unfit then you basically have your own moderated page. There are several templates you can use to make suggestions just look like real stats. A page such as this on the mainspace is not a good fit for the wiki, nor would it really have any purpose besides being a place for discussion (Which is the job for forums, not wikipedias).
GrampaSwood (talk) 23:01, 9 January 2021 (UTC)- Here’s the link: https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Msmeal18/Ideas Msmeal18 (talk) 00:20, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- If you add a notice at the top saying anyone can edit it and add their own ideas, but you reserve the right to remove any you see unfit then you basically have your own moderated page. There are several templates you can use to make suggestions just look like real stats. A page such as this on the mainspace is not a good fit for the wiki, nor would it really have any purpose besides being a place for discussion (Which is the job for forums, not wikipedias).
- But I want a place where everyone can share there ideas. Msmeal18 (talk) 22:53, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- You need to create a page that says "https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/User:Msmeal18/THENAMEYOUWISH" · Ashe (talk) 00:05, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- how do I do datMsmeal18 (talk) 00:00, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Msmeal18 Reply to the 22:53 post : I want to amplify; a place "where we discuss weapon, cosmetic, map, action item, game mode, and taunt ideas?" would be a forum or a workshop. Those already exist. Tfwiki is chartered as an encyclopedia, "Its goal is to provide Team Fortress 2 players with information that they will find useful to further their understanding of the game", not toe provide for community development of the game.
- Additionally, this Talk:Main Page is exclusively for discussion of the Main Page. As stated in the notice at the top this Talk page, "This page is not for general discussion of TF2 or the wiki." This means that significant changes to the mission of the wiki should be discussed at Team Fortress Wiki:Discussion, not here.
- M I K A D O 282 ❄❄❄❄❄❄ ❄❄ ❄❄ (talk) (Help Wanted!) 00:38, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
Empty Subpages
So I've been trying to clean out the "uncategorized pages" special page, and I think I've done it.
Except for two pages: "Main Page/Page.css" and "Main Page/Page.js". These two pages are weird. For one thing, they're both blank. Main Page/Page.css merely displays the text "// Empty". That is also the full content of its source code. Main Page/Page.js is about four times as elaborate, with source code consisting of "// Empty but protected from edits." For another thing, they're both, well, uncategorized. For a third thing, they're both (as Page.js says) protected from edits.
Are these pages waiting to be edited for some greater purpose? Do they have hidden code that's necessary for the wiki's function? Are the required to sate the hunger of some ravenous spaghetti code monster? Or..?
And what should be done about them? Do we just leave them be and never see the glory of an empty Special:Uncategorizedpages? Kestrelguy (talk) 02:06, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
TF95 theme
Can we make TF95 an optional theme you can activate anytime? I love Windows 95 and I love this style.
ClonaClox9999 (talk) 18:35, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- I must agree, it’s nice looking
- Calcium fiend (talk) 18:39, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Heyo, I'm the one that made the TF95 theme. Glad you guys like it <3. I have thought about making it into a toggleable skin due to the many requests, but no promises. In the meantime, I've put up the code @ pastebin for you to use locally. Simply create the page
User:<yourusername>/common.css
, or go into Preferences > Appearance, click on 'Custom CSS' then paste the code. You may get some warnings from MediaWiki (the software that the wiki uses) about possible errors; just ignore those and save anyway - it's just due to the formatter that I used. Also, please note that it won't have the dialog box or the popup ad, sadly. Wookipan (talk | contribs) 19:23, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- Heyo, I'm the one that made the TF95 theme. Glad you guys like it <3. I have thought about making it into a toggleable skin due to the many requests, but no promises. In the meantime, I've put up the code @ pastebin for you to use locally. Simply create the page
Add latest news
I'd like to suggest adding a new field under "Latest updates" mirroring the News section of the Blog. Example. — Tark lm(pt-br) 12:52, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
- Support
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:01, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
long long ago...
It is at this awkward moment the latest blog post is almost 700 days ago, and I was wondering if it will be better showing it like "x Years x Month x Days ago"? I tried to dig through the templates but I can't find the one handling this number.
--Alex┋T 10:22, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
- Find out if this is desired. Then you could write/plagiarize a template.
- M I K A D O 282 ⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ ⊙⊙ (Talk with Mikado282 (SM)) | contribs) (Help Wanted!) 01:11, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
dyk references
I just noticed that references in dyk sections in main page all got dumped into the bottom of the main page, this does not look nice and maybe there is a better way to handle this? --Alex┋T 17:25, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
- Should be fixed soon, I've removed the references and replaced them with square brackets as they should not have references in the first place.
GrampaSwood (talk) 17:33, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
When is the Scream Fortress tag gonna be removed?
So, admins, it’s November 2nd, and it’s past Halloween. When is the Scream Fortress tag gonna be removed? Soldurian (talk) 14:28, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Scream Fortress ends 7 November.
GrampaSwood (talk) 14:31, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
- Oh.
Banner seems to be incorrectly cropped/resized
Compared to the original image, this doesn't look quite right.
Tiagoquix (talk) 13:16, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
- Should be fixed now. Thanks for the heads-up~ — Wookipan (talk | contribs) 19:03, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Twitter/X
When Twitter is mentioned in references, quotes, or whatever other context, should it still be called Twitter, X or both "Twitter/X", or something else? It's still rebranding but most mostly complete, though Wikipedia is still slow about it. Right now I'm just using Twitter/X for clarity but not to seem outdated.-- Akolyth (talk) 19:18, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
- Generally the site isn't mentioned, as it should be an archived version of it. Simply describing what the link contains is enough (e.g. "Creator confirming reference"). Please also keep discussions not about the Main Page to TFW:Discussion instead of here, as this is about the main page only.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
"Did you know" bugged fact
For me, the "Did you know" fact number four appears as follows:
{{#switch:Main Page|#default=...that you can combine the Atomizer and the Force-A-Nature to perform four jumps in mid-air?|en=...that you can combine the Atomizer and the Force-A-Nature to perform four jumps in mid-air?|ru=...вместе с Расщепителем и Неумолимой силой можно выполнить четвёртый прыжок?|zh-hans=…你可以搭配[[Atomizer}]和Force-A-Nature在半空中完成四段跳?|{{dictionary/items/atomizer}]和force-a-nature在半空中完成四段跳?|null=}}]]
I investigated Template:Did you know, Template:Did you know/main, Template:Did you know/list, and common strings in the dictionary related to DYK, but I couldn't find the problem.
Tiagoquix (talk) 12:37, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
- Should be fixed (soon), it said {{item link|Atomizer}] instead of {{item link|Atomizer}}, this broke the code.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) 12:51, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Alphabetical ordering on non-English disambiguation pages
I've been wondering about this since the Disambiguation update project (unofficial name) started. Should the non-English pages have the links arranged in the same alphabetical order as the English ones, or should they be rearranged based on their translation names in the English alphabet order? Or, should they be arranged according to their respective language's alphabet order? --ShadowMan44 (talk) 01:43, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- I believe this is something the translators of each language should decide.
- Personally, I am in favor of maintaining the English alphabetical order. You can read my entire reasoning here (get your online translator on), but to summarize it: it offers more consistency and is much more practical. - BrazilianNut (talk) 07:34, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
- Please read the notice at the top of the page.
| s | GrampaSwood (talk) (contribs) 10:01, 25 February 2024 (UTC)