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− | The '''[[Engineer]]''' is a defensive support class who primarily helps his team by constructing various buildings. The bulk of his firepower comes from his [[Sentry Gun]], which is capable of fighting almost any enemy head-on when fully upgraded. For utility, his [[Dispenser]] keeps his team supplied, while a [[Teleporter]] system saves travel time from spawn to the front lines. Generally, an Engineer will build a "base", consisting of a Sentry Gun, Dispenser, and Teleporter Exit, that acts as a rallying point for his team. His buildings are extremely useful for either helping his team advance or holding a strategic position. | + | The '''[[Engineer]]''' is a defensive support class who primarily helps his team by constructing various buildings. The bulk of his firepower comes from his [[Sentry Gun]], which is capable of fighting almost any enemy head-on when fully upgraded. For utility, his [[Dispenser]] keeps his team supplied, while a [[Teleporter]] system saves travel time from spawn to the front lines. Generally, an Engineer will build a "base", consisting of a Sentry Gun, Dispenser, and Teleporter Exit, that acts as a rallying point for his team. His buildings are extremely useful for either helping his team advance or holding a strategic position. If the Engineer is caught alone or without his Sentry Gun, he has below-average direct combat and mediocre health, although there are a few loadout options that drastically enhance his solo combat, such as the [[Gunslinger]] and [[Southern Hospitality]]. |
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* A competent Engineer will construct his buildings so that your team needs to destroy them to advance. However, it takes some time for him to fully build or move his structures; catch him before he can set up. | * A competent Engineer will construct his buildings so that your team needs to destroy them to advance. However, it takes some time for him to fully build or move his structures; catch him before he can set up. | ||
− | * You can kill the Engineer first to prevent him from repairing his buildings. | + | * You can kill the Engineer first to prevent him from repairing his buildings, but generally he will be hiding behind them for safety. Try using splash damage to deal with him. |
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! align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" |[[File:Leaderboard_class_medic.png|40px]] [[Health]] | ! align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" |[[File:Leaderboard_class_medic.png|40px]] [[Health]] | ||
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− | * The Engineer has | + | * The Engineer has the lowest base health along with the [[Scout]], [[Sniper]] and [[Spy]]. When away from his Sentry Gun, he's easy to defeat. |
** The [[Gunslinger]] will give the Engineer an extra 25 health and access to the [[Combat Mini-Sentry Gun]], making him significantly tougher when fighting on his own. | ** The [[Gunslinger]] will give the Engineer an extra 25 health and access to the [[Combat Mini-Sentry Gun]], making him significantly tougher when fighting on his own. | ||
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! align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" |[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|40px]] [[Weapons|Power]] | ! align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" |[[File:Leaderboard_class_soldier.png|40px]] [[Weapons|Power]] | ||
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− | * The Engineer's firepower comes primarily from his Sentry Gun. It has several limitations, such as detection range and turning speed, that can be taken advantage of. | + | * The Engineer's firepower comes primarily from his Sentry Gun. It has several limitations, such as detection range and turning speed, that can be taken advantage of. Destroying the Sentry Gun frees up significant breathing room. |
− | * The Engineer must | + | * The Engineer typically must stand near his Sentry Gun to repair it, which exposes him to danger. If he uses the [[Rescue Ranger]], he can repair buildings from long ranges. |
− | * If the Engineer equips the [[Gunslinger]] and uses the [[Combat Mini-Sentry Gun]], he has enough direct | + | * If the Engineer equips the [[Gunslinger]] and uses the [[Combat Mini-Sentry Gun]], he has enough firepower in a direct fight to decisively defeat the frailer classes. |
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Shotgun}} + '''reskins''' | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Shotgun}} + '''reskins''' | ||
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− | * The Shotgun, while powerful at close range, is not as powerful as the primary weapons of other classes. For comparison, the Shotgun is merely the secondary weapon for the [[Soldier]], [[Pyro]], and [[Heavy]]. | + | * An Engineer typically uses the Shotgun to go on the offensive, or for self-defense when he or his buildings are threatened. As a frail combatant with only moderate speed, he generally focuses on one enemy at a time from a safe distance. |
+ | * The Shotgun, while powerful at close range, is not as powerful as the primary weapons of other classes. For comparison, the Shotgun is merely the secondary weapon for the [[Soldier]], [[Pyro]], and [[Heavy]]. | ||
* The Shotgun is only effective at close to medium range. Move erratically to reduce its accuracy. | * The Shotgun is only effective at close to medium range. Move erratically to reduce its accuracy. | ||
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Frontier Justice}} + '''reskins''' | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Frontier Justice}} + '''reskins''' | ||
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− | * The Frontier Justice gains guaranteed | + | * The Frontier Justice gains guaranteed Critical hits after the Engineer's Sentry Gun is destroyed, depending on accumulated kills and assists. Not dying to his Sentry Gun denies him this bonus. |
* After destroying an Engineer's Sentry Gun, he may seek vengeance with the Frontier Justice. He is still a frail combatant and can be defeated before he shoots you. | * After destroying an Engineer's Sentry Gun, he may seek vengeance with the Frontier Justice. He is still a frail combatant and can be defeated before he shoots you. | ||
− | * Consider killing the Engineer before his Sentry Gun; the Frontier Justice cannot store revenge | + | * Consider killing the Engineer before his Sentry Gun; the Frontier Justice cannot store revenge Crits while he is dead. |
* In combat, treat the Frontier Justice like the Shotgun. It has a low clip size of three, harshly punishing the Engineer for missing. | * In combat, treat the Frontier Justice like the Shotgun. It has a low clip size of three, harshly punishing the Engineer for missing. | ||
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Widowmaker}} | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Widowmaker}} | ||
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− | * The Widowmaker drains the Engineer's metal supply for each shot, but replenishes it when he deals damage. | + | * The Widowmaker drains the Engineer's metal supply for each shot, but replenishes it when he deals damage. Close range shots net positive metal, so move away and dodge his shots to force him to switch weapons. |
* Collect all nearby ammo pickups and destroy the Engineer's Dispenser to deny his metal supply. | * Collect all nearby ammo pickups and destroy the Engineer's Dispenser to deny his metal supply. | ||
* The Widowmaker gains a 10% damage bonus if you are his Sentry Gun's target. Avoid taking on him and his Sentry Gun at once. | * The Widowmaker gains a 10% damage bonus if you are his Sentry Gun's target. Avoid taking on him and his Sentry Gun at once. | ||
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* Harass the Engineer to force him to take cover, preventing long range repairs or haulings. | * Harass the Engineer to force him to take cover, preventing long range repairs or haulings. | ||
* You can potentially outdamage the Rescue Ranger's repair rate, especially once the Engineer needs to reload. | * You can potentially outdamage the Rescue Ranger's repair rate, especially once the Engineer needs to reload. | ||
+ | * The Engineer cannot save or repair a Sapped building with the Rescue Ranger, forcing him to either remove the Sapper in your view or let it be destroyed. | ||
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Panic Attack|}} | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Panic Attack|}} | ||
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* Attack the Engineer to force him to switch weapons, deactivating the Sentry Gun for a few seconds and leaving it susceptible to attack. | * Attack the Engineer to force him to switch weapons, deactivating the Sentry Gun for a few seconds and leaving it susceptible to attack. | ||
* Although uncommon, take care for Sentry nests in unexpected places; an Engineer can propel himself skyward using a Level 3 Sentry Gun's rockets. | * Although uncommon, take care for Sentry nests in unexpected places; an Engineer can propel himself skyward using a Level 3 Sentry Gun's rockets. | ||
+ | * Sapping the Sentry Gun renders the Wrangler useless and forces the Engineer to fight with his primary weapon instead. | ||
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Short Circuit}} | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Short Circuit}} | ||
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− | * The Engineer will typically use the Short Circuit to destroy [[projectiles]] (usually rockets, grenades, and Stickybombs) that threaten his buildings. Consider targeting the Engineer with hitscan or | + | * The Engineer will typically use the Short Circuit to destroy [[projectiles]] (usually rockets, grenades, and Stickybombs) that threaten his buildings. Consider targeting the Engineer with hitscan or melee weapons (if his Sentry Gun is out of the way). |
− | * The Short Circuit's energy ball costs 65 metal of an Engineer's 200. If he is without the support of | + | * The Short Circuit's energy ball costs 65 metal of an Engineer's 200. If he is without the support of a continuous source of metal (such as a [[Dispenser]] or [[Payload#Cart|Payload cart]]) or teammates, you can keep firing to eventually wear out his supply. |
− | * The Engineer has to | + | ** If you can, destroy the Dispenser to force him to run away for a source of metal. |
+ | * The Engineer has to have a line of sight to your projectiles to properly aim his energy balls. Attack from the sides and the back, outside of the Engineer's vision. | ||
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Gunslinger}} | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Gunslinger}} | ||
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− | * Equipping the Gunslinger gives the Engineer an additional 25 base health in exchange for weaker but quicker deploying Combat Mini-Sentry Guns. Expect a Gunslinger Engineer to | + | * Equipping the Gunslinger gives the Engineer an additional 25 base health in exchange for weaker but quicker deploying Combat Mini-Sentry Guns. Expect a Gunslinger Engineer to approach the front lines. |
− | * | + | * A Gunslinger Engineer on the offensive is more likely to leave his Dispenser and Teleporter undefended. |
− | * Combat Mini-Sentry Guns are much weaker at area-denial, but | + | * Combat Mini-Sentry Guns are much weaker at area-denial, but the Engineer can deploy them quickly at close range. When combined with the Shotgun, the Engineer becomes a respectable duelist. |
− | * When fighting a Gunslinger Engineer, you are forced to choose between two targets. Take out the Mini-Sentry | + | * When fighting a Gunslinger Engineer, you are forced to choose between two targets. Take out the Engineer first, if you take out the Mini-Sentry and die, the Engineer will make another. Killing the Engineer ensures your team can easily take out the Mini-Sentry, and not worry about more popping up for a while. |
− | * | + | * Using only Combat Mini-Sentry Guns means the Engineer has a much harder time defending an area from multiple enemies at once. |
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Southern Hospitality}} | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | {{Table icon|Southern Hospitality}} | ||
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* The Jag allows an Engineer to construct his buildings faster. If he sticks around his buildings as they are deployed, consider that he can build and upgrade them quickly. | * The Jag allows an Engineer to construct his buildings faster. If he sticks around his buildings as they are deployed, consider that he can build and upgrade them quickly. | ||
+ | ** If the Engineer manages to escape, he can quickly reconstruct his buildings to continue providing support for his team. | ||
* The Engineer must keep hitting his buildings to speed up their construction. This leaves him vulnerable, especially if his Sentry Gun is not yet constructed. | * The Engineer must keep hitting his buildings to speed up their construction. This leaves him vulnerable, especially if his Sentry Gun is not yet constructed. | ||
* The Jag has a significantly reduced repair rate and requires 3 hits to remove a Sapper. Constant pressure will eventually destroy his base. | * The Jag has a significantly reduced repair rate and requires 3 hits to remove a Sapper. Constant pressure will eventually destroy his base. | ||
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* An Engineer with the Eureka Effect can freely teleport to his spawn and Teleporter Exit, allowing him to quickly restock his metal supply. Taking out his Teleporter Exit denies him the ability to teleport back to the front lines, delaying the time it takes for him to get back to his buildings. | * An Engineer with the Eureka Effect can freely teleport to his spawn and Teleporter Exit, allowing him to quickly restock his metal supply. Taking out his Teleporter Exit denies him the ability to teleport back to the front lines, delaying the time it takes for him to get back to his buildings. | ||
* The Eureka Effect is less effective at speeding up building construction. It will be much easier to take out buildings before they are finished deploying. | * The Eureka Effect is less effective at speeding up building construction. It will be much easier to take out buildings before they are finished deploying. | ||
− | * The Eureka Effect gives the Engineer 20% less metal from Dispensers and ammo pickups. Steal nearby pickups to force the Engineer to teleport away to restock his metal supply, then destroy his buildings. | + | * The Eureka Effect gives the Engineer 20% less metal from Dispensers and ammo pickups. Steal nearby pickups to force the Engineer to teleport away to restock his metal supply, then destroy his buildings. |
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== Buildings == | == Buildings == | ||
− | [[Buildings]] are unaffected by | + | * [[Buildings]] are unaffected by Critical hits, including those from sources like the Soldier's [[Buff Banner]] and Medic's [[Kritzkrieg]]. |
+ | * The Spy’s Sapper causes buildings to cease functioning, but can be removed by the Engineer's Wrench. Coordinate with a friendly Spy to take out troublesome buildings. | ||
+ | * A fully charged shot from the [[Cow Mangler 5000]] can temporarily disable a building for 4 seconds. Use this as an alternate strategy if rushing with a Soldier. | ||
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! class="header" colspan="1" width="200"| Building | ! class="header" colspan="1" width="200"| Building | ||
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | [[File:Lvl1sentry.png|100px|Sentry Guns]]<br />'''[[Sentry Gun]]''' | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | [[File:Lvl1sentry.png|100px|Sentry Guns]]<br />'''[[Sentry Gun]]''' | ||
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− | * The Sentry Gun is | + | * The Sentry Gun is likely the first building you must attack thanks to its high firepower. |
− | * An Engineer can hide behind his Sentry Gun while repairing it with his Wrench. Target him first by either using splash damage or repositioning yourself. For example, Soldiers can fire rockets to the side of the Sentry Gun, while Snipers can pick a different vantage point | + | * An Engineer can hide behind his Sentry Gun while repairing it with his Wrench. Target him first by either using splash damage or repositioning yourself. For example, Soldiers can fire rockets to the side of the Sentry Gun, while Snipers can pick a different vantage point. |
− | * Sentry Guns turn slowly and can | + | * Sentry Guns turn slowly and takes time to lock on to an enemy. You can peek from around a corner to take free shots at it. |
+ | ** Due to their slow turn rate, it is possible to jump on top of a Sentry Gun and completely avoid fire by crouch walking in a circular motion. | ||
* Don't assume you know where a Sentry Gun is, even if you've already fought it. The Engineer can [[Buildings#Hauling|haul]] buildings between key points. | * Don't assume you know where a Sentry Gun is, even if you've already fought it. The Engineer can [[Buildings#Hauling|haul]] buildings between key points. | ||
− | * Listen for the Sentry Gun's signature 'beep' sound | + | * Listen for the Sentry Gun's signature 'beep' sound. The number of 'beeps' played corresponds to the Sentry Gun's level, which helps you decide whether you can defeat it. |
* A level 3 Sentry Gun at full health that is actively being repaired can be overcome using the Medic's invincibility [[ÜberCharge]], Spy's [[Sapper]], or a cluster of the Demoman's [[Stickybomb]]s. Coordinate with your teammates to damage the Sentry Gun faster than it can be repaired. | * A level 3 Sentry Gun at full health that is actively being repaired can be overcome using the Medic's invincibility [[ÜberCharge]], Spy's [[Sapper]], or a cluster of the Demoman's [[Stickybomb]]s. Coordinate with your teammates to damage the Sentry Gun faster than it can be repaired. | ||
+ | * Dealing with a nest that has multiple Sentry Guns usually requires a team effort. | ||
+ | ** The Medic can use his invincibility-granting [[ÜberCharge]] on a Heavy or Demoman to break a stalemate. | ||
+ | ** If an allied Spy saps the Sentry Gun to disable it, the rest of your team can push in. | ||
+ | *** If there are too many Engineers, the Red-Tape Recorder can quickly downgrade the Sentry Guns, giving you an easier job at destroying them. | ||
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | [[File:Lvl1dispenser.png|100px|Dispensers]]<br />'''[[Dispenser]]''' | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | [[File:Lvl1dispenser.png|100px|Dispensers]]<br />'''[[Dispenser]]''' | ||
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− | * The Dispenser | + | * The Dispenser can be an easier building to destroy, as an Engineer will usually prioritize repairing his Sentry Gun. |
− | * If destroying a Sentry Gun isn't possible, | + | * If destroying a Sentry Gun isn't possible, target the Dispenser to cut off the Engineer's supply of metal. |
* Destroying a Dispenser will reduce the entire enemy team’s health regeneration, especially if there is no enemy Medic. | * Destroying a Dispenser will reduce the entire enemy team’s health regeneration, especially if there is no enemy Medic. | ||
* You can use an enemy Dispenser as cover from an enemy Sentry Gun; Sentry Guns cannot attack you through Dispensers. | * You can use an enemy Dispenser as cover from an enemy Sentry Gun; Sentry Guns cannot attack you through Dispensers. | ||
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* Teleporters that regain health are being repaired from the other side. It's easy to outdamage the repair rate by using strong weapons or the Spy's [[Sapper]]. | * Teleporters that regain health are being repaired from the other side. It's easy to outdamage the repair rate by using strong weapons or the Spy's [[Sapper]]. | ||
* The Teleporter Entrance tends to be less defended than the Exit, if you can get far behind enemy lines. | * The Teleporter Entrance tends to be less defended than the Exit, if you can get far behind enemy lines. | ||
+ | ** As the Spy, you can take an enemy Teleporter to tell your team where enemies are coming from. | ||
* Waiting behind a Teleporter Exit and killing enemies that come through can halt their momentum. High burst damage, such as that from [[Stickybomb]]s or the Knife's backstab, work best. | * Waiting behind a Teleporter Exit and killing enemies that come through can halt their momentum. High burst damage, such as that from [[Stickybomb]]s or the Knife's backstab, work best. | ||
− | * | + | ** Destroy the Exit eventually, as enemies will likely warn their teammates and tell them to not take the Teleporter. |
* Don't stand on a functioning Teleporter Exit, as you risk dying by [[telefrag]]. | * Don't stand on a functioning Teleporter Exit, as you risk dying by [[telefrag]]. | ||
− | ** | + | ** As the Spy, you can sap a Teleporter Entrance and stand on it, telefragging any enemy who remains on the Exit. |
+ | * If enemies are appearing far too close to your team's spawn point, sweep the area for a hidden Teleporter Exit. | ||
+ | ** Players that have recently exited a Teleporter will emit particles under their feet - a sign that there is a Teleporter nearby. | ||
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| align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | [[File:Red Mini Sentry.png|100px|Combat Mini-Sentry Guns]]<br />'''[[Combat Mini-Sentry Gun]]''' | | align="center" valign="center" style="padding:0.5em" | [[File:Red Mini Sentry.png|100px|Combat Mini-Sentry Guns]]<br />'''[[Combat Mini-Sentry Gun]]''' | ||
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* Do not underestimate Combat Mini-Sentry Guns; while they have less health and power than the standard Sentry Gun, they build almost instantly and still automatically target you. | * Do not underestimate Combat Mini-Sentry Guns; while they have less health and power than the standard Sentry Gun, they build almost instantly and still automatically target you. | ||
− | * You will often need to decide whether to target the Mini-Sentry Gun or its Engineer | + | * You will often need to decide whether to target the Mini-Sentry Gun or its Engineer. Use good positioning to fight one at a time. |
− | * If | + | * If the Engineer places down a Mini-Sentry midcombat, decide whether you have the firepower to fight, then whether to first target the Engineer or Mini-Sentry before it finishes building. |
− | * If an Engineer is deploying Mini-Sentry Guns near | + | * The fast build time of Mini-Sentry Guns helps them be placed in unexpected places. After you destroy one, watch out for its builder. |
− | * Like a normal Sentry Gun, the Mini-Sentry can be sapped by a Spy. | + | * If an Engineer is deploying Mini-Sentry Guns near ammo supplies, destroying them may be pointless considering how easily they're replaced. Don't let him distract you from the main fight or high priority targets. |
+ | * Like a normal Sentry Gun, the Mini-Sentry can be sapped by a Spy. The [[Red-Tape Recorder]], with its slower destruction rate, wastes more time before the Engineer can set up a new Mini-Sentry. | ||
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Latest revision as of 18:00, 9 September 2024
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The Engineer is a defensive support class who primarily helps his team by constructing various buildings. The bulk of his firepower comes from his Sentry Gun, which is capable of fighting almost any enemy head-on when fully upgraded. For utility, his Dispenser keeps his team supplied, while a Teleporter system saves travel time from spawn to the front lines. Generally, an Engineer will build a "base", consisting of a Sentry Gun, Dispenser, and Teleporter Exit, that acts as a rallying point for his team. His buildings are extremely useful for either helping his team advance or holding a strategic position. If the Engineer is caught alone or without his Sentry Gun, he has below-average direct combat and mediocre health, although there are a few loadout options that drastically enhance his solo combat, such as the Gunslinger and Southern Hospitality.
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General
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Power |
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Weapon-specific
Primary weapons
Weapon | Anti-Engineer strategy |
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Shotgun + reskins |
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Frontier Justice + reskins |
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Widowmaker |
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Pomson 6000 |
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Rescue Ranger |
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Panic Attack |
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Secondary weapons
Weapon | Anti-Engineer strategy |
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Pistol + reskins |
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Wrangler + reskins |
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Short Circuit |
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Melee weapons
Weapon | Anti-Engineer strategy |
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Wrench + reskins |
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Gunslinger |
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Southern Hospitality |
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Jag |
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Eureka Effect |
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Buildings
- Buildings are unaffected by Critical hits, including those from sources like the Soldier's Buff Banner and Medic's Kritzkrieg.
- The Spy’s Sapper causes buildings to cease functioning, but can be removed by the Engineer's Wrench. Coordinate with a friendly Spy to take out troublesome buildings.
- A fully charged shot from the Cow Mangler 5000 can temporarily disable a building for 4 seconds. Use this as an alternate strategy if rushing with a Soldier.
Building | Anti-Engineer strategy |
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Sentry Gun |
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Dispenser |
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Teleporter |
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Combat Mini-Sentry Gun |
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See also
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