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'''Mirror match-up:''' You are most likely to run into other Scouts when both of you are away from teammates, such as during the initial rush to a map objective or at the outskirts of a battlefield. Both of you do high damage at close range and have low maximum health, so the fight will likely be over within a few seconds.
 
'''Mirror match-up:''' You are most likely to run into other Scouts when both of you are away from teammates, such as during the initial rush to a map objective or at the outskirts of a battlefield. Both of you do high damage at close range and have low maximum health, so the fight will likely be over within a few seconds.
  
'''Tactics:''' Raw skill is the greatest factor in winning a Scout duel; shoot the enemy Scout and avoid being shot yourself. Look carefully at your opponent's movement; it is easiest to hit your shots while he is moving in straight lines or landing from a double jump. You can make yourself harder to hit by changing directions unpredictably and mixing single jumps in with your double jumps. If you find yourself losing, enter extremely close range to make aiming chaotic for your opponent. You will take more damage at close range, but this is less of an issue if you are already at low health.
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'''Tactics:''' Raw skill is the greatest factor in winning a Scout duel; shoot the enemy Scout and avoid being shot yourself. Look carefully at your opponent's movement; it is easiest to hit your shots while he is moving in straight lines or landing from a double jump. You can make yourself harder to hit by changing directions unpredictably and mixing single jumps in with your double jumps. However, an experienced Scout will be able to predict your movement when you jump due to the lack of air control, so try not to jump too often. If you find yourself losing, enter extremely close range to make aiming chaotic for your opponent and maximize your Scattergun's damage. You will take more damage yourself, but this is not an issue if you are at low enough health to die in one hit anyway.
  
Unless with the other classes, you can't outrun an enemy Scout. As you duel, stay closer to health kit spawns, as even a small health kit can help you survive another shot. If you need to retreat, flee to nearby teammates or a Sentry Gun.
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Unlike with the other classes, you can't outrun an enemy Scout. As you duel, stay closer to health kit spawns, as even a small health kit can help you survive another shot. If you need to retreat, flee to nearby teammates or a Sentry Gun.
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
* The [[Scattergun]] has the highest clip size of all your primary weapons, which gives you room for error in case you miss shots.
 
* The [[Scattergun]] has the highest clip size of all your primary weapons, which gives you room for error in case you miss shots.
* [[Crit-a-Cola]] allows you to win the fight in one point-blank shot. However, keep in mind that its Marked-for-Death debuff allows the enemy Scout to do the same to ''you.''
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* The [[Pistol]] and its variants fire rapidly, which makes finishing off a low-health Scout easier than with your primary weapons. They are also useful backup weapons if your primary weapon runs out of ammo.
* Initiating with the [[Sandman]]'s baseball can slow the enemy Scout, making it difficult for him to dodge your attacks.
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* Healing from [[Mad Milk]] can help you survive an extra Scattergun attack in a close duel.
* Bleed-inflicting weapons, such as the [[Flying Guillotine]] or the [[Wrap Assassin]], can weaken the enemy Scout to the point that a single close range shot will defeat him.
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* Initiating the fight with the Sandman's slow-inflicting baseball makes it harder for the enemy Scout to dodge your attacks or run away.
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* Bleed-inflicting weapons, such as the [[Flying Guillotine]] or [[Wrap Assassin]], can weaken the enemy Scout to the point that a single close-range shot will defeat him.
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* If the enemy Scout is using the Scattergun, then any unlockable weapon that fires faster, such as the [[Soda Popper]], will give you an advantage in close range. The increased firing speed will mean that you will be able to deal enough damage to kill him before he can do the same.
  
 
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'''Relative merits:''' Both you and the Soldier are effective close-range combatants, but you have the advantage of movement speed. A Soldier will typically aim his [[Rocket Launcher]] at your feet to deal splash damage, but your ability to [[Jumping#Double Jump|double jump]] makes it easier to avoid being hit directly.  
 
'''Relative merits:''' Both you and the Soldier are effective close-range combatants, but you have the advantage of movement speed. A Soldier will typically aim his [[Rocket Launcher]] at your feet to deal splash damage, but your ability to [[Jumping#Double Jump|double jump]] makes it easier to avoid being hit directly.  
  
'''Tactics:''' Try to stay in open areas to make the best use of your mobility. Try to deny the Soldier [[High ground advantage|access to high ground]], where he can rain rockets from above. Stay at medium range, where you are far enough away to dodge rockets but still deal respectable Scattergun damage. You can double jump to avoid rocket splash damage, but avoid double jumping so predictably that the Soldier shoots a rocket where you land in advance. If you need to retreat, stay alert in case he decides to [[Jumping#Soldier jumps|rocket jump]] after you.
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'''Tactics:''' Try to stay in open areas to make the best use of your mobility. Prevent the Soldier from rocket jumping to high ground by presenting yourself as a constant threat, which forces him to fire at you, or shooting him mid-rocket jump to disrupt his movement. Stay at medium range, where you are far enough away to dodge rockets but still deal respectable Scattergun damage. You can double jump to avoid rocket splash damage, but avoid double jumping so predictably that the Soldier shoots a rocket where you land in advance. If you are knocked into the air by the Soldier, make sure to [[airstrafe]] in order to dodge any incoming rockets while throwing off the Soldier's aim. The rule of being unpredictable still applies here, so ensure that you mix up your strafing to prevent him from [[airshot|airshotting]] you. If you need to retreat, stay alert in case he decides to [[Jumping#Soldier jumps|rocket jump]] after you.
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
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* The knockback from the [[Force-a-Nature]] can disrupt a Soldier's rocket jumping.
 
* The [[Soda Popper]]'s Hype mode lets you remain airborne for five jumps, making it almost impossible for the Soldier to hit you with splash damage.
 
* The [[Soda Popper]]'s Hype mode lets you remain airborne for five jumps, making it almost impossible for the Soldier to hit you with splash damage.
* Take out the [[Atomizer]] for an unexpected triple jump to reposition yourself.
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* The [[Winger]]'s extra jump height can make it easier to avoid incoming splash damage.
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* The [[Atomizer]]'s triple jump can be used to reposition during the fight, more easily avoid splash damage, or escape via a normally-inaccessible route.
  
 
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'''Relative merits:''' You have the speed to outmaneuver the Pyro, provided you have room to maneuver, and a longer effective range. However, your low maximum health makes you vulnerable to [[afterburn]], and the wide hitbox of fire particles means that a Pyro has an easier time hitting you than most other classes.  
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'''Relative merits:''' You have the speed to outmaneuver the Pyro, provided you have room to maneuver, and a longer effective range. However, your low maximum health makes you vulnerable to [[afterburn]], and the wide spread of the [[Flame Thrower]]'s fire means that a Pyro has an easier time hitting you than most other classes.  
  
 
'''Tactics:''' Defeating a Pyro is all about spacing. Use your speed to stay just outside Flame Thrower range while taking shots with your Scattergun (or Pistol) as opportunity presents. Avoid enclosed areas, where the Pyro can use the [[compression blast]] to shove you into a corner for an easy kill. Try not to get hit at all; afterburn can take off up to half of your health and may empower certain Pyro weapons, like the [[Flare Gun]] or [[Axtinguisher]].
 
'''Tactics:''' Defeating a Pyro is all about spacing. Use your speed to stay just outside Flame Thrower range while taking shots with your Scattergun (or Pistol) as opportunity presents. Avoid enclosed areas, where the Pyro can use the [[compression blast]] to shove you into a corner for an easy kill. Try not to get hit at all; afterburn can take off up to half of your health and may empower certain Pyro weapons, like the [[Flare Gun]] or [[Axtinguisher]].
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'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
* The [[Force-a-Nature]]'s knockback can force the Pyro away from you and keep you outside Flame Thrower range.
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* The Force-a-Nature's knockback can force the Pyro away from you and keep you outside Flame Thrower range.
* The [[Shortstop]]'s reduced bullet spread allows you to stand further away from the Pyro without losing too much damage.
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* The [[Shortstop]]'s reduced bullet spread allows you to stand further away from the Pyro without losing too much damage. The alt-fire shove can also be used to create space, albeit much less effectively than the Force-a-Nature.
* The [[Pistol]] and its variants can be used to chip away at a Pyro's health from a safe distance.
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* The Pistol and its variants can be used to chip away at a Pyro's health from a safe distance.
 
* The healing from [[Mad Milk]] can offset the damage from [[afterburn]] in an extended fight. It can also be thrown at your feet to extinguish yourself instantly.
 
* The healing from [[Mad Milk]] can offset the damage from [[afterburn]] in an extended fight. It can also be thrown at your feet to extinguish yourself instantly.
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* The [[Sun-on-a-Stick]] provides resistance to fire damage when held, giving you more time to find a source of healing if you are dying of afterburn.
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* The [[Candy Cane]] spawns a small health pack on kill, allowing you to immediately extinguish yourself after an encounter with a Pyro.
  
 
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   | demoman-strategy =  
 
'''Relative merits:''' Both you and the Demoman have extremely high damage output. While your weapons use bullets, the Demoman's weapons all use explosive projectiles. Combined with your mobility, you have a much easier time hitting him than he has hitting you, which gives you a significant advantage.
 
'''Relative merits:''' Both you and the Demoman have extremely high damage output. While your weapons use bullets, the Demoman's weapons all use explosive projectiles. Combined with your mobility, you have a much easier time hitting him than he has hitting you, which gives you a significant advantage.
  
'''Tactics:'''  The Demoman is weakest at close range, where he cannot attack you with explosives without damaging himself. Stay outside melee range but close enough to do significant damage with your Scattergun. Alternatively, you can remain at a distance to more easily dodge the Demoman's explosives entirely. As you dodge, watch for grenades that bounce nearby and are about to explode, as even an indirect hit can take away half your health.
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'''Tactics:'''  The Demoman is weakest at close range, where he cannot attack you with explosives without damaging himself. Stay outside melee range but close enough to do significant damage with your Scattergun. Alternatively, you can remain at a distance to more easily dodge the Demoman's explosives entirely. As you dodge, watch for [[Grenade Launcher|grenades]] that bounce nearby and are about to explode, as even an indirect hit can take away half your health.
  
Stickybombs are ineffective against you in a direct fight, as you have the speed to run outside their explosive radius before the Demoman can detonate them. However, a pre-laid Stickybomb trap can kill you instantly. Keep an eye out for doorways, walls, or other surfaces that may contain a trap, and avoid pursuing the Demoman into such areas. If need be, take alternate routes to avoid his traps and ambush him.
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[[Stickybomb Launcher|Stickybombs]] are usually ineffective against you in a direct fight, as you have the speed to react to the Demoman firing them and avoid them before they can be detonated. However, a pre-laid Stickybomb trap can kill you instantly. Keep an eye out for doorways, walls, or other surfaces that may contain a trap, and avoid pursuing the Demoman into such areas. If need be, take alternate routes to avoid his traps and ambush him.
  
A "Demoknight" using the [[Chargin' Targe]] or [[Splendid Screen|other]] [[Tide Turner|shield]] does not have a Stickybomb Launcher, but will likely use a melee weapon with increased melee range, such as the [[Eyelander]]. A shield-charging Demoknight is one of the few things faster than you, but his charge is generally linear. Stay out of melee range, and if he charges, run sideways or double jump up nearby objects instead of trying to outrun him. If he is already low on health, you can also just try to shoot him mid-charge, as none of his shields grant bullet resistance. Pay attention to whether the Demoknight has taken the Grenade Launcher or [[Ali Baba's Wee Booties]] to decide how else to fight him.
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A '''Demoknight''' using a [[shield]] secondary such as the [[Chargin' Targe]] does not have a Stickybomb Launcher, but will likely use a melee weapon with increased melee range, such as the [[Eyelander]]. A shield-charging Demoknight is one of the few things faster than you, but his charge is generally hard to steer. Stay out of melee range, and if he charges, run sideways or double jump up nearby objects instead of trying to outrun him directly. If you have sufficient health, you are in an open-space area, and the Demoknight is charging at you, you may be able to time a jump before the charge hits to tank the damage and use the knockback as a boost to escape. However, this is a risky maneuver, and depending on what shield he is using, how far you fly upward, and how many heads he has, this tactic could backfire and get you killed. If he is already low on health, you can also just try to shoot him mid-charge, as none of his shields grant bullet resistance. Pay attention to whether the Demoknight is using a Grenade Launcher or [[Ali Baba's Wee Booties]] to know [[Anti-Demoman_strategy#Primary|what else to expect]].
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
* [[Bonk! Atomic Punch]] can be used to phase past a Demoman's Stickybomb traps.
 
* [[Bonk! Atomic Punch]] can be used to phase past a Demoman's Stickybomb traps.
* The [[Sandman]] can slow a Demoknight down to a crawl on a long-ranged hit, giving you a chance to close the distance.
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* Hitting a Demoknight with the Sandman's slow-inflicting baseball significantly reduces his movement speed and prevents him from charging, which makes it easier to stay out of his melee range.
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* The [[Force-A-Nature]]'s [[knockback]] can be used to repel Demoknights.  
 
    
 
    
 
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'''Relative merits:''' The Heavy is, in many ways, your exact opposite - he lacks mobility, but has the highest pool and the rapid-fire Minigun. In a direct fight, he can out-damage you; don't engage against a Heavy without some sort of advantage.
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'''Relative merits:''' The Heavy is, in many ways, your exact opposite - he lacks mobility, but has the highest maximum health and the rapid-fire Minigun. The Heavy overpowers you in a direct fight; don't engage him without some sort of advantage.
  
'''Tactics:''' The element of surprise is your strongest weapon. If you catch the enemy Heavy unprepared, you can kill him with just a few point blank shots before he can spin up his Minigun. If the Heavy has already spun up his Minigun, he is immobile and has to fight from his current position. Approach him from the back or sides. Once he has his sights on you, weave in and out of cover between shots, [[circle strafing|circle strafe]], or double jump over his head to make tracking you harder. Note the sound his weapon makes before deciding to fight - the distinct whir of the [[Natascha]], which can slow you to a crawl, is a sign to stay back.
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'''Tactics:''' The element of surprise is your strongest weapon. If you catch the enemy Heavy unprepared, you can kill him with just a few point-blank shots before he can spin up his Minigun. If the Heavy has already spun up his Minigun, ambush him from the back or sides. Once he has his sights on you, weave in and out of cover between shots, [[circle strafing|circle strafe]], or double jump over his head to make it harder for him to track you. Note the sound his weapon makes before deciding to fight - the distinct whir of the [[Natascha]], which can slow you to a crawl, is a sign to stay back.
  
Don't hesitate to retreat if the Heavy's position is too entrenched, as you can always target his teammates instead.
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Don't hesitate to retreat if the Heavy's position is too entrenched - he can't pursue you. Try waiting for him to unwind his Minigun and change positions, or target his teammates to deny him backup before engaging.
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
* [[Crit-a-Cola]] allows you to match the Heavy's obscene firepower but also marks you for death; it is best used for ambushes.
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* The [[Back Scatter]] can improve the effectiveness of an ambush, being able to take out almost half of a Heavy's health in a single point-blank shot.
* [[Mad Milk]] can help you survive Minigun damage in a sustained fight.
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* Mad Milk can help you survive Minigun damage in a sustained fight.
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* The Heavy is an easy target for the [[Sandman]] and [[Wrap Assassin]]'s projectiles, even at longer ranges.
  
 
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'''Relative merits:''' The Engineer has similar weapons to yours, but far less mobility. However, he will commonly be patrolling around his Sentry Gun, which has perfect aim and extremely high damage. You are ill-equipped to deal with Sentry Guns on your own.
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'''Relative merits:''' The Engineer has similar weapons to yours but far less mobility, which makes him an easy target if alone. However, he will commonly be patrolling around his [[Sentry Gun]], which has perfect aim and extremely high damage. You are ill-equipped to deal with Sentry Guns on your own; avoid them entirely if possible.
  
'''Tactics:''' Avoid routes covered by Sentry Guns and check around corners before blindly rushing into new areas. If you locate a Sentry Gun, steer clear of that area and inform your team of its location so other classes can destroy it. If the Sentry Gun is unattended, you might be able to slowly chip away at it from far away with your Pistol or the Shortstop. Otherwise, when an Engineer is near the Sentry Gun, the best you’ll be able to do is harass him from long range.
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'''Tactics:''' Avoid routes covered by Sentry Guns and check around corners before blindly rushing into new areas. If you locate a Sentry Gun, steer clear of that area and inform your team of its location so other classes can destroy it. If the Sentry Gun is unattended, you might be able to slowly chip away at it from far away with a Pistol or the Shortstop. Otherwise, when an Engineer is near the Sentry Gun, the best you’ll be able to do is harass him from long range.
  
You may find a [[Gunslinger]]-wielding Engineer, who deploys Combat Mini-Sentry Guns instead of regular Sentry Guns, closer to the front lines. The Mini-Sentry takes a few seconds to deploy, in which you should decide whether to target the Engineer, take two shots to kill the Mini-Sentry, or maintain a distance with the Pistol
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An Engineer wielding the [[Gunslinger]] deploys [[Sentry Gun#Combat Mini-Sentry Gun|Combat Mini-Sentry Guns]] instead of regular Sentry Guns, and will usually stay closer to the front lines. The Mini-Sentry takes only a few seconds to deploy; if an Engineer places one while fighting you, quickly decide whether to target the Engineer, take two shots to kill the Mini-Sentry, or retreat. If you run into an already-deployed Mini-Sentry, it is feasible for you to run up to it and kill it before it kills you, provided you can reach point-blank range before it sees you (such as by finding cover near the Mini-Sentry or having a teammate draw its fire).
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
* [[Bonk! Atomic Punch]] can be used to run past a Sentry Gun. You can also move alongside teammates and draw the Sentry Gun's fire while they destroy it.
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* Bonk! Atomic Punch can be used to negate the damage of a Sentry Gun, allowing you to pass through its line of sight unharmed or draw its fire away from your teammates.
* The extra mobility granted by weapons like the [[Force-a-Nature]], [[Winger]], and [[Atomizer]] can be used to take alternative routes to avoid Sentry Guns.
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* The extra mobility granted by weapons like the Force-a-Nature, [[Winger]], and Atomizer can be used to take alternative routes to avoid Sentry Guns.
 
   
 
   
 
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'''Relative merits:''' A Medic provides valuable healing, overhealing, and ÜberCharges to his teammates. Because of this, he is one of your highest-priority targets. The Medic himself is extremely weak in a fight, but usually surrounded by his teammates, making him difficult to reach.
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'''Relative merits:''' A Medic is able to heal and ÜberCharge his teammates using his [[Medi Gun]]. Because of this, he is one of your highest-priority targets. The Medic himself is extremely weak in a fight but is usually surrounded by his teammates, making him difficult to reach.
  
 
'''Tactics:'''  The Medic will likely stay near his teammates to heal them - these enemies will have plenty of health and are therefore more difficult for you to pick off. Additionally, the Medic is free to turn around and assess the battlefield while healing, so you need to approach carefully. Wait for when the Medic and his teammates are unaware or distracted, and fire a few carefully-aimed shots at the Medic to drop him. Don't get greedy; if you get noticed after (or before) you kill the Medic, feel free to fall back to avoid the wrath of his patients.
 
'''Tactics:'''  The Medic will likely stay near his teammates to heal them - these enemies will have plenty of health and are therefore more difficult for you to pick off. Additionally, the Medic is free to turn around and assess the battlefield while healing, so you need to approach carefully. Wait for when the Medic and his teammates are unaware or distracted, and fire a few carefully-aimed shots at the Medic to drop him. Don't get greedy; if you get noticed after (or before) you kill the Medic, feel free to fall back to avoid the wrath of his patients.
  
An ÜberCharged Medic and his patient are extremely dangerous. Your speed lets you quickly retreat from such a pair until the ÜberCharge wears off. Alternatively, you can use your speed to get right in the ÜberCharged pair's face and attempt to dodge their shots; this is dangerous, but can help draw fire away from the rest of your team.
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If the enemy Medic deploys his ÜberCharge, it is usually best to retreat and wait for it to wear off. However, you can also use your speed to get close, draw his patient's fire away from your team, and threaten to kill the pair once the ÜberCharge wears off.
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If you encounter a lone Medic, he is likely navigating toward the rest of his team. Be wary of chasing him into the middle of a crowd of enemies, or through narrow hallways where his [[Syringe Gun]]'s needles are harder to avoid.
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
* The [[Sandman]]'s baseball can slow a Medic down, which can separate him from his team.
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* Bonk! Atomic Punch can be used to body-block an ÜberCharged Medic or his patient to waste ÜberCharge time.
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* Getting into close range to use the Force-A-Nature's knockback is a risky way to disrupt an ÜberCharge.
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* The Sandman's baseball can slow a Medic down, which can separate him from his team or make him easier to chase.
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* The Crit-a-Cola and Fan O'War give you mini crits on activation, giving you a risky but powerful way to either force him to use his ÜberCharge or to outright kill him.
  
 
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'''Relative merits:''' Your mobility makes you difficult for a Sniper to hit. However, if you ''do'' get hit, one headshot or fully charged bodyshot will instantly kill you. Move unpredictably to throw off the Sniper's aim, and attempt to engage him at close range, where he is much weaker.
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'''Relative merits:''' Your mobility makes it difficult for a Sniper to hit. However, one headshot or fully charged bodyshot from his [[Sniper Rifle]] will kill you instantly. Move unpredictably to throw off the Sniper's aim, and attempt to engage him at close range, where he is much weaker.
  
'''Tactics:''' Ideally, take a route where the Sniper will not see you coming. If you ''do'' need to enter his sightline, zigzag, jump, and strafe to become a difficult target to hit. If possible, harass the Sniper with your [[Pistol]] at long range to throw off his aim. Once you close the distance, you have the advantage. Even at close range, take care, as the Sniper may try to quickly scope in and headshot you anyway.
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'''Tactics:''' Ideally, take a route where the Sniper will not see you coming. If you ''do'' need to enter his sightline, zigzag, jump, and strafe to become a difficult target to hit. If possible, harass the Sniper with your [[Pistol]] at long range to throw off his aim. Once you close the distance, you have the advantage. Even at close range, take care, as the Sniper may try to quickly scope in and headshot you anyway. The [[Huntsman]] and its reskins complicate this by giving the Sniper a deadly weapon if used properly at close range. If you see a Sniper with the Huntsman, be careful. The Huntsman can deal up to 120 damage on a bodyshot, and can instantly kill you if it is a headshot regardless of the charge. Try to deceive the Sniper by moving erratically and using your jumps when needed. However, jumping too much can make your movement easily predictable due to the predictable arc of a jump.
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
* [[Bonk! Atomic Punch]] can give temporary invulnerability if you need to directly approach the Sniper.
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* The extra mobility granted by weapons like the Winger and Atomizer can be used to dodge more easily, ambush the Sniper from unexpected angles, or avoid sightlines he is watching.
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* Bonk! Atomic Punch grants some insurance when directly crossing a Sniper's line of sight.
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* The Crit-a-Cola and Fan O'War give you mini crits on activation, making it possible to instantly kill the Sniper in close range and can be safely used if you end up close to the Sniper without him being aware of your existence.
  
 
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'''Relative merits:''' Your speed makes you hard to backstab and allows you to chase fleeing foes, making you one of the Spy’s deadlier opponents. He has some of the game’s weakest weapons, so once you spot him, a fight is heavily in your favor.
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'''Relative merits:''' Your speed makes it hard to backstab you and allows you to chase fleeing foes, making you one of the Spy’s deadlier opponents. His weapons are relatively weak, so a direct fight is heavily in your favor.
  
'''Tactics:''' You can easily [[Spy-check]] by simply running into your teammates; if you can’t move past them, they’re a Spy. If he [[Cloak]]s and flees, use your Scattergun's spread or other useful weapons to reveal him and give chase. If the Spy stays for a direct fight, strafe back and forth, land solid Scattergun shots, and take care not to expose your back to his [[Knife]] in the heat of the moment.  
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'''Tactics:''' You can easily [[Spy-check]] by simply running into your teammates; if you can’t move past them, they’re a Spy. If he [[cloak]]s and flees, predict where he will move and shoot him while he's invisible. If the Spy stays for a direct fight, strafe back and forth, land solid Scattergun shots, and take care not to expose your back to his [[Knife]]. Do not get too arrogant, however, as although you have an extreme advantage over the Spy in direct combat, his weapons are nothing to scoff at. Spies wielding the [[Ambassador]] have the potential to quickly kill you in close range with a headshot followed by a bodyshot, and could kill you before you can finish them off. The [[Diamondback]] increases the danger of a Spy, due to the critical hits not being affected by distance or whether or not it was a headshot. If you see a Spy backstab a teammate or fully sap a building while using this weapon, be careful. Take care to move unpredictably against gun-wielding Spies so as to not risk being killed.
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
* [[Mad Milk]] and bleed effects from the [[Boston Basher]] and [[Wrap Assassin]] can reveal a Cloaked Spy.
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* Mad Milk, as well as bleed-inflicting weapons such as the [[Flying Guillotine]] or [[Boston Basher]], can make it easier to chase a cloaked Spy.
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* The [[Holy Mackerel]] and the [[Unarmed Combat]] will display the number of hits on a [[Dead Ringer]] Spy.
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* Upon killing a Spy while using the [[Candy Cane]], the Spy will not drop a health kit if they use the Dead Ringer.  
 
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Latest revision as of 21:17, 9 May 2023

I'm gonna headbutt ya, I'm gonna headbutt ya, I'm gonna headbutt ya!
The Scout on his delicate battle plan
Class Strategy
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Scout
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Scout
Mirror match-up: You are most likely to run into other Scouts when both of you are away from teammates, such as during the initial rush to a map objective or at the outskirts of a battlefield. Both of you do high damage at close range and have low maximum health, so the fight will likely be over within a few seconds.

Tactics: Raw skill is the greatest factor in winning a Scout duel; shoot the enemy Scout and avoid being shot yourself. Look carefully at your opponent's movement; it is easiest to hit your shots while he is moving in straight lines or landing from a double jump. You can make yourself harder to hit by changing directions unpredictably and mixing single jumps in with your double jumps. However, an experienced Scout will be able to predict your movement when you jump due to the lack of air control, so try not to jump too often. If you find yourself losing, enter extremely close range to make aiming chaotic for your opponent and maximize your Scattergun's damage. You will take more damage yourself, but this is not an issue if you are at low enough health to die in one hit anyway.

Unlike with the other classes, you can't outrun an enemy Scout. As you duel, stay closer to health kit spawns, as even a small health kit can help you survive another shot. If you need to retreat, flee to nearby teammates or a Sentry Gun.

Useful weapons:

  • The Scattergun has the highest clip size of all your primary weapons, which gives you room for error in case you miss shots.
  • The Pistol and its variants fire rapidly, which makes finishing off a low-health Scout easier than with your primary weapons. They are also useful backup weapons if your primary weapon runs out of ammo.
  • Healing from Mad Milk can help you survive an extra Scattergun attack in a close duel.
  • Initiating the fight with the Sandman's slow-inflicting baseball makes it harder for the enemy Scout to dodge your attacks or run away.
  • Bleed-inflicting weapons, such as the Flying Guillotine or Wrap Assassin, can weaken the enemy Scout to the point that a single close-range shot will defeat him.
  • If the enemy Scout is using the Scattergun, then any unlockable weapon that fires faster, such as the Soda Popper, will give you an advantage in close range. The increased firing speed will mean that you will be able to deal enough damage to kill him before he can do the same.
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Scout
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Soldier
Relative merits: Both you and the Soldier are effective close-range combatants, but you have the advantage of movement speed. A Soldier will typically aim his Rocket Launcher at your feet to deal splash damage, but your ability to double jump makes it easier to avoid being hit directly.

Tactics: Try to stay in open areas to make the best use of your mobility. Prevent the Soldier from rocket jumping to high ground by presenting yourself as a constant threat, which forces him to fire at you, or shooting him mid-rocket jump to disrupt his movement. Stay at medium range, where you are far enough away to dodge rockets but still deal respectable Scattergun damage. You can double jump to avoid rocket splash damage, but avoid double jumping so predictably that the Soldier shoots a rocket where you land in advance. If you are knocked into the air by the Soldier, make sure to airstrafe in order to dodge any incoming rockets while throwing off the Soldier's aim. The rule of being unpredictable still applies here, so ensure that you mix up your strafing to prevent him from airshotting you. If you need to retreat, stay alert in case he decides to rocket jump after you.

Useful weapons:

  • The knockback from the Force-a-Nature can disrupt a Soldier's rocket jumping.
  • The Soda Popper's Hype mode lets you remain airborne for five jumps, making it almost impossible for the Soldier to hit you with splash damage.
  • The Winger's extra jump height can make it easier to avoid incoming splash damage.
  • The Atomizer's triple jump can be used to reposition during the fight, more easily avoid splash damage, or escape via a normally-inaccessible route.
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Scout
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Pyro
Relative merits: You have the speed to outmaneuver the Pyro, provided you have room to maneuver, and a longer effective range. However, your low maximum health makes you vulnerable to afterburn, and the wide spread of the Flame Thrower's fire means that a Pyro has an easier time hitting you than most other classes.

Tactics: Defeating a Pyro is all about spacing. Use your speed to stay just outside Flame Thrower range while taking shots with your Scattergun (or Pistol) as opportunity presents. Avoid enclosed areas, where the Pyro can use the compression blast to shove you into a corner for an easy kill. Try not to get hit at all; afterburn can take off up to half of your health and may empower certain Pyro weapons, like the Flare Gun or Axtinguisher.

If you are trapped in Flame Thrower range, get as close to the Pyro as possible - at point blank, your primary weapons outdamage the Flame Thrower. Kill the Pyro as quickly as possible, then retreat to a health kit/Dispenser/Medic to extinguish yourself.

Useful weapons:

  • The Force-a-Nature's knockback can force the Pyro away from you and keep you outside Flame Thrower range.
  • The Shortstop's reduced bullet spread allows you to stand further away from the Pyro without losing too much damage. The alt-fire shove can also be used to create space, albeit much less effectively than the Force-a-Nature.
  • The Pistol and its variants can be used to chip away at a Pyro's health from a safe distance.
  • The healing from Mad Milk can offset the damage from afterburn in an extended fight. It can also be thrown at your feet to extinguish yourself instantly.
  • The Sun-on-a-Stick provides resistance to fire damage when held, giving you more time to find a source of healing if you are dying of afterburn.
  • The Candy Cane spawns a small health pack on kill, allowing you to immediately extinguish yourself after an encounter with a Pyro.
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Scout
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Demoman
Relative merits: Both you and the Demoman have extremely high damage output. While your weapons use bullets, the Demoman's weapons all use explosive projectiles. Combined with your mobility, you have a much easier time hitting him than he has hitting you, which gives you a significant advantage.

Tactics: The Demoman is weakest at close range, where he cannot attack you with explosives without damaging himself. Stay outside melee range but close enough to do significant damage with your Scattergun. Alternatively, you can remain at a distance to more easily dodge the Demoman's explosives entirely. As you dodge, watch for grenades that bounce nearby and are about to explode, as even an indirect hit can take away half your health.

Stickybombs are usually ineffective against you in a direct fight, as you have the speed to react to the Demoman firing them and avoid them before they can be detonated. However, a pre-laid Stickybomb trap can kill you instantly. Keep an eye out for doorways, walls, or other surfaces that may contain a trap, and avoid pursuing the Demoman into such areas. If need be, take alternate routes to avoid his traps and ambush him.

A Demoknight using a shield secondary such as the Chargin' Targe does not have a Stickybomb Launcher, but will likely use a melee weapon with increased melee range, such as the Eyelander. A shield-charging Demoknight is one of the few things faster than you, but his charge is generally hard to steer. Stay out of melee range, and if he charges, run sideways or double jump up nearby objects instead of trying to outrun him directly. If you have sufficient health, you are in an open-space area, and the Demoknight is charging at you, you may be able to time a jump before the charge hits to tank the damage and use the knockback as a boost to escape. However, this is a risky maneuver, and depending on what shield he is using, how far you fly upward, and how many heads he has, this tactic could backfire and get you killed. If he is already low on health, you can also just try to shoot him mid-charge, as none of his shields grant bullet resistance. Pay attention to whether the Demoknight is using a Grenade Launcher or Ali Baba's Wee Booties to know what else to expect.

Useful weapons:

  • Bonk! Atomic Punch can be used to phase past a Demoman's Stickybomb traps.
  • Hitting a Demoknight with the Sandman's slow-inflicting baseball significantly reduces his movement speed and prevents him from charging, which makes it easier to stay out of his melee range.
  • The Force-A-Nature's knockback can be used to repel Demoknights.
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Scout
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Heavy
Relative merits: The Heavy is, in many ways, your exact opposite - he lacks mobility, but has the highest maximum health and the rapid-fire Minigun. The Heavy overpowers you in a direct fight; don't engage him without some sort of advantage.

Tactics: The element of surprise is your strongest weapon. If you catch the enemy Heavy unprepared, you can kill him with just a few point-blank shots before he can spin up his Minigun. If the Heavy has already spun up his Minigun, ambush him from the back or sides. Once he has his sights on you, weave in and out of cover between shots, circle strafe, or double jump over his head to make it harder for him to track you. Note the sound his weapon makes before deciding to fight - the distinct whir of the Natascha, which can slow you to a crawl, is a sign to stay back.

Don't hesitate to retreat if the Heavy's position is too entrenched - he can't pursue you. Try waiting for him to unwind his Minigun and change positions, or target his teammates to deny him backup before engaging.

Useful weapons:

  • The Back Scatter can improve the effectiveness of an ambush, being able to take out almost half of a Heavy's health in a single point-blank shot.
  • Mad Milk can help you survive Minigun damage in a sustained fight.
  • The Heavy is an easy target for the Sandman and Wrap Assassin's projectiles, even at longer ranges.
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Engineer
Relative merits: The Engineer has similar weapons to yours but far less mobility, which makes him an easy target if alone. However, he will commonly be patrolling around his Sentry Gun, which has perfect aim and extremely high damage. You are ill-equipped to deal with Sentry Guns on your own; avoid them entirely if possible.

Tactics: Avoid routes covered by Sentry Guns and check around corners before blindly rushing into new areas. If you locate a Sentry Gun, steer clear of that area and inform your team of its location so other classes can destroy it. If the Sentry Gun is unattended, you might be able to slowly chip away at it from far away with a Pistol or the Shortstop. Otherwise, when an Engineer is near the Sentry Gun, the best you’ll be able to do is harass him from long range.

An Engineer wielding the Gunslinger deploys Combat Mini-Sentry Guns instead of regular Sentry Guns, and will usually stay closer to the front lines. The Mini-Sentry takes only a few seconds to deploy; if an Engineer places one while fighting you, quickly decide whether to target the Engineer, take two shots to kill the Mini-Sentry, or retreat. If you run into an already-deployed Mini-Sentry, it is feasible for you to run up to it and kill it before it kills you, provided you can reach point-blank range before it sees you (such as by finding cover near the Mini-Sentry or having a teammate draw its fire).

Useful weapons:

  • Bonk! Atomic Punch can be used to negate the damage of a Sentry Gun, allowing you to pass through its line of sight unharmed or draw its fire away from your teammates.
  • The extra mobility granted by weapons like the Force-a-Nature, Winger, and Atomizer can be used to take alternative routes to avoid Sentry Guns.
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Medic
Relative merits: A Medic is able to heal and ÜberCharge his teammates using his Medi Gun. Because of this, he is one of your highest-priority targets. The Medic himself is extremely weak in a fight but is usually surrounded by his teammates, making him difficult to reach.

Tactics: The Medic will likely stay near his teammates to heal them - these enemies will have plenty of health and are therefore more difficult for you to pick off. Additionally, the Medic is free to turn around and assess the battlefield while healing, so you need to approach carefully. Wait for when the Medic and his teammates are unaware or distracted, and fire a few carefully-aimed shots at the Medic to drop him. Don't get greedy; if you get noticed after (or before) you kill the Medic, feel free to fall back to avoid the wrath of his patients.

If the enemy Medic deploys his ÜberCharge, it is usually best to retreat and wait for it to wear off. However, you can also use your speed to get close, draw his patient's fire away from your team, and threaten to kill the pair once the ÜberCharge wears off.

If you encounter a lone Medic, he is likely navigating toward the rest of his team. Be wary of chasing him into the middle of a crowd of enemies, or through narrow hallways where his Syringe Gun's needles are harder to avoid.

Useful weapons:

  • Bonk! Atomic Punch can be used to body-block an ÜberCharged Medic or his patient to waste ÜberCharge time.
  • Getting into close range to use the Force-A-Nature's knockback is a risky way to disrupt an ÜberCharge.
  • The Sandman's baseball can slow a Medic down, which can separate him from his team or make him easier to chase.
  • The Crit-a-Cola and Fan O'War give you mini crits on activation, giving you a risky but powerful way to either force him to use his ÜberCharge or to outright kill him.
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Sniper
Relative merits: Your mobility makes it difficult for a Sniper to hit. However, one headshot or fully charged bodyshot from his Sniper Rifle will kill you instantly. Move unpredictably to throw off the Sniper's aim, and attempt to engage him at close range, where he is much weaker.

Tactics: Ideally, take a route where the Sniper will not see you coming. If you do need to enter his sightline, zigzag, jump, and strafe to become a difficult target to hit. If possible, harass the Sniper with your Pistol at long range to throw off his aim. Once you close the distance, you have the advantage. Even at close range, take care, as the Sniper may try to quickly scope in and headshot you anyway. The Huntsman and its reskins complicate this by giving the Sniper a deadly weapon if used properly at close range. If you see a Sniper with the Huntsman, be careful. The Huntsman can deal up to 120 damage on a bodyshot, and can instantly kill you if it is a headshot regardless of the charge. Try to deceive the Sniper by moving erratically and using your jumps when needed. However, jumping too much can make your movement easily predictable due to the predictable arc of a jump.

Useful weapons:

  • The extra mobility granted by weapons like the Winger and Atomizer can be used to dodge more easily, ambush the Sniper from unexpected angles, or avoid sightlines he is watching.
  • Bonk! Atomic Punch grants some insurance when directly crossing a Sniper's line of sight.
  • The Crit-a-Cola and Fan O'War give you mini crits on activation, making it possible to instantly kill the Sniper in close range and can be safely used if you end up close to the Sniper without him being aware of your existence.
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Spy
Relative merits: Your speed makes it hard to backstab you and allows you to chase fleeing foes, making you one of the Spy’s deadlier opponents. His weapons are relatively weak, so a direct fight is heavily in your favor.

Tactics: You can easily Spy-check by simply running into your teammates; if you can’t move past them, they’re a Spy. If he cloaks and flees, predict where he will move and shoot him while he's invisible. If the Spy stays for a direct fight, strafe back and forth, land solid Scattergun shots, and take care not to expose your back to his Knife. Do not get too arrogant, however, as although you have an extreme advantage over the Spy in direct combat, his weapons are nothing to scoff at. Spies wielding the Ambassador have the potential to quickly kill you in close range with a headshot followed by a bodyshot, and could kill you before you can finish them off. The Diamondback increases the danger of a Spy, due to the critical hits not being affected by distance or whether or not it was a headshot. If you see a Spy backstab a teammate or fully sap a building while using this weapon, be careful. Take care to move unpredictably against gun-wielding Spies so as to not risk being killed.

Useful weapons:


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