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'''Mirror match-up:''' You most likely meet other Scouts when both of you are away from teammates, such as during the initial rush to a Control Point or at the outskirts of a battlefield. Raw skill is the greatest factor for deciding this fight.
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'''Mirror match-up:''' You are most likely to run into other Scouts when both of you are away from teammates, such as during the initial rush to a map objective or at the outskirts of a battlefield. Both of you do high damage at close range and have low maximum health, so the fight will likely be over within a few seconds.
  
'''Tactics:''' Maintain precise aim while keeping your movement options in mind. Strafe left and right while keeping your aim pointed towards your opponent. If you can mimic or predict your rival's movement, there will be times where your crosshair naturally lines up with him - fire away! Jump sparingly, preferably to get behind him or take cover, as jumps have a predictable trajectory. If you find yourself at a dueling disadvantage, enter extremely close range to make aiming chaotic for both of you. Additionally, control the area around health kits.
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'''Tactics:''' Raw skill is the greatest factor in winning a Scout duel; shoot the enemy Scout and avoid being shot yourself. Look carefully at your opponent's movement; it is easiest to hit your shots while he is moving in straight lines or landing from a double jump. You can make yourself harder to hit by changing directions unpredictably and mixing single jumps in with your double jumps. Keep the locations of nearby health kits in mind; the boost of healing they provide can turn the tide of a fight for both you and your opponent, and unlike with other classes you can't outrun him directly.
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If you find yourself losing, enter extremely close range to make aiming chaotic for your opponent. You will take more damage at close range, but this is less of an issue if you are already low on health, and the increased damage you will deal may turn the tide of the fight. You can also choose to retreat; because the enemy Scout is just as agile as you, it will be difficult to outrun him directly. If possible, attempt to retreat towards locations the enemy Scout is unwilling to chase you, such as a group of teammates or into the path of a Sentry Gun.
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
* The [[Scattergun]] has the highest clip size, which gives the most leeway for handling how dodgy your fellow Scout is.
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* The [[Scattergun]] has the highest clip size of all your primary weapons, which gives you room for error in case you miss shots.
* The [[Pistol]] is best for finishing off a single enemy if you know their health is low.
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* The [[Pistol]]'s high rate of fire makes it effective at finishing off a low-health Scout. It is also effective for harassing him from outside the effective range of his primary weapons, or as a backup when your own primary is out of ammo.
* Initiating with [[Mad Milk]] lets you survive another medium range shot if you land a solid hit after being damaged.
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* Initiating the fight with [[Mad Milk]] will increase your survivability significantly as long as you hit your shots, making it much more difficult for your opponent to finish you off.
* The [[Wrap Assassin]]'s bleed-inducing bauble can weaken the enemy Scout to the point that a single close range shot will suffice.
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* [[Bonk! Atomic Punch]] can be used to guarantee an escape if you feel you need to retreat. Run to cover first to avoid being shot mid-drink.
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* The [[Crit-a-Cola]] allows you to win the fight in one point-blank shot. However, keep in mind that the Marked-for-Death debuff it triggers will allow the enemy Scout to do the same to ''you.''
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* The [[Sandman]]'s baseball will slow the enemy Scout down significantly on a long-ranged hit, taking away one of his main advantages and making it extremely difficult for him to retreat.
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* Bleed-inflicting weapons, such as the [[Flying Guillotine]] or [[Wrap Assassin]], can weaken the enemy Scout to the point that a single close range shot will defeat him.
  
 
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'''Relative merits:''' Both you and the Soldier are effective at close range, but you are faster on the ground. A Soldier will typically aim his [[Rocket Launcher]] at your feet to deal splash damage, but you have a [[Jumping#Double Jump|double jump]] to avoid being hit directly.  
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'''Relative merits:''' Both you and the Soldier are effective close-range combatants, but you have the advantage of movement speed. A Soldier will typically aim his [[Rocket Launcher]] at your feet to deal splash damage, but your ability to [[Jumping#Double Jump|double jump]] makes it easier to avoid being hit directly.  
  
'''Tactics:''' Stay in open areas to make the best use of your mobility. Use your mobility to deny the Soldier [[High ground advantage|access to high ground]], where he is deadliest and can rain rockets from above. Consider staying at a medium distance to dodge his shots, and avoid double jumping so predictably that the Soldier shoots a rocket where you land. If you need to retreat, stay alert in case he decides to [[Jumping#Soldier jumps|rocket jump]] after you.
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'''Tactics:''' Try to stay in open areas to make the best use of your mobility. Try to deny the Soldier [[High ground advantage|access to high ground]], where he can rain rockets from above. Consider staying at a medium distance to dodge his shots. Avoid double jumping so predictably that the Soldier shoots a rocket where you land. If you need to retreat, stay alert in case he decides to [[Jumping#Soldier jumps|rocket jump]] after you.
  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
 
'''Useful weapons:'''  
* The [[Soda Popper]]'s Hype mode lets you close the distance while remaining airborne to avoid rockets for five jumps.
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* The [[Soda Popper]]'s Hype mode lets you remain airborne for five jumps, making it almost impossible for the Soldier to hit you with splash damage.
 
* Take out the [[Atomizer]] for an unexpected triple jump to reposition yourself.
 
* Take out the [[Atomizer]] for an unexpected triple jump to reposition yourself.
  

Revision as of 17:35, 13 June 2021

I'm gonna headbutt ya, I'm gonna headbutt ya, I'm gonna headbutt ya!
The Scout on his delicate battle plan
Class Strategy
Scout.png
Scout
vs. Scout.png
Scout
Mirror match-up: You are most likely to run into other Scouts when both of you are away from teammates, such as during the initial rush to a map objective or at the outskirts of a battlefield. Both of you do high damage at close range and have low maximum health, so the fight will likely be over within a few seconds.

Tactics: Raw skill is the greatest factor in winning a Scout duel; shoot the enemy Scout and avoid being shot yourself. Look carefully at your opponent's movement; it is easiest to hit your shots while he is moving in straight lines or landing from a double jump. You can make yourself harder to hit by changing directions unpredictably and mixing single jumps in with your double jumps. Keep the locations of nearby health kits in mind; the boost of healing they provide can turn the tide of a fight for both you and your opponent, and unlike with other classes you can't outrun him directly.

If you find yourself losing, enter extremely close range to make aiming chaotic for your opponent. You will take more damage at close range, but this is less of an issue if you are already low on health, and the increased damage you will deal may turn the tide of the fight. You can also choose to retreat; because the enemy Scout is just as agile as you, it will be difficult to outrun him directly. If possible, attempt to retreat towards locations the enemy Scout is unwilling to chase you, such as a group of teammates or into the path of a Sentry Gun.

Useful weapons:

  • The Scattergun has the highest clip size of all your primary weapons, which gives you room for error in case you miss shots.
  • The Pistol's high rate of fire makes it effective at finishing off a low-health Scout. It is also effective for harassing him from outside the effective range of his primary weapons, or as a backup when your own primary is out of ammo.
  • Initiating the fight with Mad Milk will increase your survivability significantly as long as you hit your shots, making it much more difficult for your opponent to finish you off.
  • Bonk! Atomic Punch can be used to guarantee an escape if you feel you need to retreat. Run to cover first to avoid being shot mid-drink.
  • The Crit-a-Cola allows you to win the fight in one point-blank shot. However, keep in mind that the Marked-for-Death debuff it triggers will allow the enemy Scout to do the same to you.
  • The Sandman's baseball will slow the enemy Scout down significantly on a long-ranged hit, taking away one of his main advantages and making it extremely difficult for him to retreat.
  • Bleed-inflicting weapons, such as the Flying Guillotine or Wrap Assassin, can weaken the enemy Scout to the point that a single close range shot will defeat him.
Scout.png
Scout
vs. Soldier.png
Soldier
Relative merits: Both you and the Soldier are effective close-range combatants, but you have the advantage of movement speed. A Soldier will typically aim his Rocket Launcher at your feet to deal splash damage, but your ability to double jump makes it easier to avoid being hit directly.

Tactics: Try to stay in open areas to make the best use of your mobility. Try to deny the Soldier access to high ground, where he can rain rockets from above. Consider staying at a medium distance to dodge his shots. Avoid double jumping so predictably that the Soldier shoots a rocket where you land. If you need to retreat, stay alert in case he decides to rocket jump after you.

Useful weapons:

  • The Soda Popper's Hype mode lets you remain airborne for five jumps, making it almost impossible for the Soldier to hit you with splash damage.
  • Take out the Atomizer for an unexpected triple jump to reposition yourself.
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Scout
vs. Pyro.png
Pyro
Relative merits: You have the speed to outmaneuver the Pyro, provided you have room to maneuver, and weapons with longer range.

Tactics: Defeating a Pyro is all about spacing. Stay just outside the Flame Thrower's range, switching between your Scattergun and Pistol as opportunity presents. Avoid enclosed areas, where the Pyro can use the compression blast to shove you into a corner for an easy kill. Try not to get hit at all - afterburn will take off up to half of your health and may empower certain Pyro weapons, like the Flare Gun.

Useful weapons:

  • The Shortstop deals the most damage of any scattergun from outside the Flame Thrower's effective range.
  • Mad Milk provides healing to negate afterburn in an extended fight and can be thrown downward to extinguish yourself.
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Scout
vs. Demoman.png
Demoman
Relative merits: Both you and the Demoman have extremely high damage output, but your mobility generally lets you engage on your own terms. When out in the open, you can easily dodge a Demoman's indirect projectiles. If you force the fight into close range, the Demoman's Grenade Launcher is difficult to aim, Stickybombs take too long to arm, and his explosions also damage him.

Tactics: Quickly get within close range, where the Demoman is weakest, or remain at medium range, where you can wear him down while dodging grenades. If need be, take alternate routes to avoid his Sticky traps and ambush him. A Demoman with a shield equipped is vulnerable to weapon heckling; stay at medium range to avoid his melee attacks, then close in once he switches to the Grenade Launcher. Be ready to react if he suddenly decides to charge at you, as his charge moves faster than your running speed.

Useful weapons:

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Scout
vs. Heavy.png
Heavy
Relative merits: The Heavy is perhaps your exact opposite - your mobility and Scattergun's precision versus his bulk and Minigun's barrage. Although you cannot take him on directly, you can be a constant nuisance.

Tactics: The element of surprise is your strongest weapon; you can kill the beefy Heavy with just a few point blank shots before his Minigun can be revved. If his Minigun is already spun up, note the sound his weapon makes before deciding to fight - the distinct whir of the Natascha, which can slow you down, is a sign to stay back. In a direct fight, the Heavy is immobile; try popping in and out from behind cover between shots, staying in his face while circle strafing, or double jumping over his head to confuse him.

Useful weapons:

  • Crit-a-Cola will allow you to match the Heavy's obscene firepower.
  • Mad Milk can help you survive chip damage from his Minigun in a sustained fight.
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Scout
vs. Engineer.png
Engineer
Relative merits: A lone Engineer has similar weapons to yours but far less mobility. However, his Sentry Gun is bulky, tracks your movements, and deals heavy damage.

Tactics: If the Engineer's Sentry Gun catches you, its knock back will pin down and kill you. Avoid routes covered by Sentry Guns and check around corners before rushing into new areas. If the Sentry Gun is unattended, you can slowly destroy it from far away with a pistol or the Shortstop. Otherwise, when an Engineer is near his Sentry Gun, the best you’ll be able to do is harass him from long range.

Useful weapons:

  • The Shortstop or Pistol gives you a distanced option for dealing with unattended Sentry Guns.
  • Bonk! Atomic Punch can be used to distract a troublesome Sentry Gun while your teammates destroy it.
Scout.png
Scout
vs. Medic.png
Medic
Relative merits: Your mobility lets you flank the enemy team and choose your targets. Consider targeting the enemy Medic to eliminate their source of healing. In a direct fight, you have higher damage potential, but the Medic has higher health and health regeneration.

Tactics: The Medic will likely stay near his teammates to heal them - these enemies will have plenty of health and are harder to pick off. Additionally, the Medic is free to turn around and assess the battlefield while healing, so you need to approach decisively. Maneuver past his patient or approach the pair from behind, and pick the Medic off with a few point blank shots. Don't get greedy - retreat if you think his former patient is too healthy.

Useful weapons:

  • Weapons that offer constant mobility upgrades, like the Winger and Atomizer, can help you get to the enemy Medic easier.
  • The Sandman's baseball can inflict slow to separate the Medic and his patient.
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Scout
vs. Sniper.png
Sniper
Relative merits: Your mobility lets you take all sorts of alternate routes to approach a Sniper. However, if the Sniper spots you, one headshot or fully charged bodyshot will instantly kill you.

Tactics: Ideally, take a route where the Sniper will not see you coming. If the Sniper is aiming at you, zigzag, jump, and strafe to become a difficult target. If you have no choice, harass the Sniper with your Pistol at long range to hopefully throw off his aim. Once you close the distance, your weapons have the advantage. Even at close range, take care, as the Sniper may try to quickly scope in and headshot you anyway.

Useful weapons:

  • Weapons that offer constant mobility upgrades, like the Winger and Atomizer, can help you flank the enemy Sniper.
  • Bonk! Atomic Punch can give temporary invulnerability if you need to directly approach the Sniper.
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Scout
vs. Spy.png
Spy
Relative merits: Your speed makes you hard to backstab and allows you to always chase fleeing foes, making you one of the Spy’s deadlier opponents. He has some of the game’s weakest weapons, so a fight is heavily in your favor.

Tactics: You can easily Spy-check by simply running into your teammates; if you can’t move past them, they’re a Spy. If he Cloaks and flees, use your Scattergun's spread or other useful weapons to reveal him and give chase. If the Spy stays for a direct fight, strafe back and forth, land solid Scattergun shots, and take care not to expose your back to his Knife in the heat of the moment.

Useful weapons:


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