Talk:Item quality

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Added Phong on self-made's?

Can anyone confirm it as being false or correct, that self-made items also got extra phong? Or does that only apply to community vanilla unlocks? Benvil 19:20, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

The community phongboost is only rigged up in the VMTs for a selection of the stock weapons. So no Self-Made will possess this effect unless the creator knew of the effect and rigged it up pre-contribute. ~~ Ath 19:42, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Create this page?

With info about Vintage and Unusual etc?  – Smashman (talk) 23:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram plus.png Support: Never heard of Unusual, though. -The Neotank ( | Talk) User The Neotank Signeotank.gif 23:37, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram comment.png Comment Crate.  – Smashman (talk) 23:55, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
Pictogram plus.png Support I say yes. There are quite a few different types now of rarity. Normal, common, uncommon/rare, community, valve, vintage, "Mann Co crate purple rare", and "Mann Co crate ultra rare". A handy style table would be lovely. Infi^ 23:58, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

There are alot of players wanting to get rid of their rare hats now, possibly due to having traded alot to apprehend them for themselves, be on the lookout if you want to get them yourselves.--The preceding unsigned comment was added by FPSAndy (talk) • contribs)

Unusual effects

Reminder to self, create table with the different effects possible. ([1]) --Firestorm 23:41, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

There's a currently unused particle effect "Circling Skull". I just thought I'd like to point that out (nanosheep_inc) 12:29, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Unusual Hats Gallery

As you can probably tell, we don't have many images and the images are poor quality. If anyone who has an Unusual hat could send me a link to a high-quality picture of their Unusual hat, they will be immortalized on the Wiki! (It's awesome, honest).

Before sending me a picture, be sure to check the page to make sure a better image isn't already on there.

For effects that only surround the hat, a head-and-shoulders picture on a blank background would be best. Taunts are fine as long as they don't obscure the effect.

For effects that surround the player, a full-body picture at a slightly downward angle of the class is best. Again, taunts are fine, but please make sure the effect is visible in front and slightly to the side, to show that it circles the class.

Send me the link either here, on my userpage or by sending me a steam message --Firestorm 20:34, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll take a screencap of my Unusual hat. :) -- En Ex (talk) 07:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Do you think we could be ambitious enough to document every possible unusual hat combination and post its image here? (nanosheep_inc) 14:21, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Random leveled weapons?

Perhaps a note about random leveled weapons. eg Period when they dropped, what they are etc... --Riz 14:41, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

While they are rare, they don't have a unique item quality. The information on randomly leveled items can be found here. -- Pilk (talk) 14:43, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Can we get the effect's code numbers back?

When looking at someone's backpack on tf2items or other backpack examiners all you see is the number of the effect, not any sort of descriptor. I used to come here to find what the effect actually was, but suddenly it's just a number, not the actual code. (also, why does it start at 6?)--The preceding unsigned comment was added by FPSAndy (talk) • contribs)

When I look on TF2Items, TF2B or OPTF2 I see the effect's name, not a number. And the article does list the effects and their numbers, so I'm not sure what your comment is about.-RJ 13:06, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Unusual Amount.

There are 63 Possible hats at the moment that can have Unusual Effects. Hatless and Ol' Snaggletooth are not 'Unusual Able'. There are also 14 effects currently in the game. I've corrected the number accordingly. 6*14=882 Spar13 22:24, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Can we get a list of which hats are 'Unusual Able'? AileTheAlien 26:00, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
anything but the Hatless and Ol' Snagletooth --Iaindude 11:14, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Actually, snaggle can be unusual. Here's one pack that has one: http://tf2b.com/?id=76561198005260624 Weebletns 03:05, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Rare/Common/Normal Weapons

There are variants of developers weapons with rarity like "Rare", "Common" and "Normal" - should they be added here too? Should the Developer weapons page be merged with this page? BarnabasHale 11:08, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Standard Items section

This section in regards to the quality + use of nametags is technically incorrect. The Items now viewable as part of the name-tag system are already assigned unique quality and are discrete items with their own definition indicies, aka "upgradable" weapons. "Standard" items (retaining their original quality) are still not present in backpacks. Should this distinction be made, or would it be considered too technical for the purview of the article? Ath 22:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

No, I agree completely and didn't notice this before. Thanks. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 12:01, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

"Failure" Crafting Two Unusuals...

I think it should state that any two unusuals crafted together yeild a Normal hat not an Unusual vice-versa with an unusual batters as its used with two bonks. Gamecrazy009 09:15, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

Gallery? In my Unusuals?

Should we keep adding Pictures of other unusuals not listed? or just the effects, ive got two friends with Bonk Helm Confetti and pananma energy :l Gamecrazy009 21:51, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

We have a picture of every effect. Don't think we need 896 pictures of every hat with every effect :P Moussekateer 22:05, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Unusual Hat Possibilities

Hat Checklist
Batter's Helmet Bonk Helm Ye Olde Baker Boy Baseball Bill's Sports Shine Troublemaker's Tossle Cap Whoopee Cap Milkman Bombing Run Flipped Trilby
Do Not Have
Batter's Helmet
Have
Bonk Helm
Do Not Have
Ye Olde Baker Boy
Do Not Have
Baseball Bill's Sports Shine
Do Not Have
Troublemaker's Tossle Cap
Have
Whoopee Cap
Have
Milkman
Have
Bombing Run
Do Not Have
Flipped Trilby
Superfan Hero's Tail El Jefe Backwards Ballcap Hermes Hot Dogger Wrap Battler Big Elfin Deal Front Runner
Do Not Have
Superfan
Do Not Have
Hero's Tail
Do Not Have
El Jefe
Do Not Have
Backwards Ballcap
Do Not Have
Hermes
Do Not Have
Hot Dogger
Do Not Have
Wrap Battler
Do Not Have
Big Elfin Deal
Do Not Have
Front Runner
Cross-Comm Express Fed-Fightin' Fedora Void Monk Hair Robot Running Man Crafty Hair Hanger-On Hood Wilson Weave Bonk Leadwear Bot Dogger
Do Not Have
Cross-Comm Express
Do Not Have
Fed-Fightin' Fedora
Do Not Have
Void Monk Hair
Do Not Have
Robot Running Man
Do Not Have
Crafty Hair
Do Not Have
Hanger-On Hood
Do Not Have
Wilson Weave
Do Not Have
Bonk Leadwear
Do Not Have
Bot Dogger
Ye Oiled Baker Boy
Do Not Have
Ye Oiled Baker Boy
Soldier's Stash Tyrant's Helm Stainless Pot Killer's Kabuto Sergeant's Drill Hat Lumbricus Lid Grenadier's Softcap Chieftain's Challenge Stout Shako
Do Not Have
Soldier's Stash
Do Not Have
Tyrant's Helm
Have
Stainless Pot
Do Not Have
Killer's Kabuto
Do Not Have
Sergeant's Drill Hat
Do Not Have
Lumbricus Lid
Do Not Have
Grenadier's Softcap
Do Not Have
Chieftain's Challenge
Do Not Have
Stout Shako
Dr's Dapper Topper Exquisite Rack Defiant Spartan Hero's Hachimaki Honcho's Headgear Brain Bucket Team Captain Furious Fukaamigasa Jumper's Jeepcap
Do Not Have
Dr's Dapper Topper
Do Not Have
Exquisite Rack
Do Not Have
Defiant Spartan
Do Not Have
Hero's Hachimaki
Do Not Have
Honcho's Headgear
Do Not Have
Brain Bucket
Do Not Have
Team Captain
Do Not Have
Furious Fukaamigasa
Do Not Have
Jumper's Jeepcap
Armored Authority Lord Cockswain's Pith Helmet Stahlhelm Hat With No Name Salty Dog Idiot Box Infernal Impaler Lucky Shot Conquistador
Do Not Have
Armored Authority
Do Not Have
Lord Cockswain's Pith Helmet
Do Not Have
Stahlhelm
Do Not Have
Hat With No Name
Do Not Have
Salty Dog
Do Not Have
Idiot Box
Do Not Have
Infernal Impaler
Do Not Have
Lucky Shot
Do Not Have
Conquistador
Battle Bob Cross-Comm Crash Helmet Helmet Without a Home Tin Pot Crafty Hair War Pig Zipperface Chief Constable Soldier's Slope Scopers
Do Not Have
Battle Bob
Do Not Have
Cross-Comm Crash Helmet
Do Not Have
Helmet Without a Home
Do Not Have
Tin Pot
Do Not Have
Crafty Hair
Do Not Have
War Pig
Do Not Have
Zipperface
Do Not Have
Chief Constable
Do Not Have
Soldier's Slope Scopers
Doe-Boy Full Metal Drill Hat Steel Shako Tyrantium Helmet
Do Not Have
Doe-Boy
Do Not Have
Full Metal Drill Hat
Do Not Have
Steel Shako
Do Not Have
Tyrantium Helmet
Pyro's Beanie Brigade Helm Respectless Rubber Glove Triboniophorus Tyrannus Vintage Merryweather Attendant Old Guadalajara Napper's Respite Handyman's Handle
Do Not Have
Pyro's Beanie
Do Not Have
Brigade Helm
Do Not Have
Respectless Rubber Glove
Do Not Have
Triboniophorus Tyrannus
Do Not Have
Vintage Merryweather
Have
Attendant
Do Not Have
Old Guadalajara
Do Not Have
Napper's Respite
Do Not Have
Handyman's Handle
Madame Dixie Pyromancer's Mask Prancer's Pride Dead Cone Hottie's Hoodie Connoisseur's Cap Stately Steel Toe Birdcage Little Buddy
Do Not Have
Madame Dixie
Do Not Have
Pyromancer's Mask
Do Not Have
Prancer's Pride
Do Not Have
Dead Cone
Do Not Have
Hottie's Hoodie
Do Not Have
Connoisseur's Cap
Do Not Have
Stately Steel Toe
Do Not Have
Birdcage
Do Not Have
Little Buddy
Flamboyant Flamenco Blazing Bull Bubble Pipe Head Warmer Waxy Wayfinder Triclops Area 451 Wraith Wrap DethKapp
Do Not Have
Flamboyant Flamenco
Do Not Have
Blazing Bull
Do Not Have
Bubble Pipe
Do Not Have
Head Warmer
Do Not Have
Waxy Wayfinder
Do Not Have
Triclops
Do Not Have
Area 451
Do Not Have
Wraith Wrap
Do Not Have
DethKapp
Person in the Iron Mask Necronomicrown Bolted Birdcage Electric Escorter Firewall Helmet Metal Slug Plumber's Pipe Pyro's Boron Beanie Respectless Robo-Glove
Do Not Have
Person in the Iron Mask
Do Not Have
Necronomicrown
Do Not Have
Bolted Birdcage
Do Not Have
Electric Escorter
Do Not Have
Firewall Helmet
Do Not Have
Metal Slug
Do Not Have
Plumber's Pipe
Do Not Have
Pyro's Boron Beanie
Do Not Have
Respectless Robo-Glove
Demoman's Fro Glengarry Bonnet Scotsman's Stove Pipe Hustler's Hallmark Tippler's Tricorne Sober Stuntman Carouser's Capotain Rimmed Raincatcher Scotch Bonnet
Do Not Have
Demoman's Fro
Do Not Have
Glengarry Bonnet
Do Not Have
Scotsman's Stove Pipe
Do Not Have
Hustler's Hallmark
Do Not Have
Tippler's Tricorne
Do Not Have
Sober Stuntman
Do Not Have
Carouser's Capotain
Do Not Have
Rimmed Raincatcher
Do Not Have
Scotch Bonnet
Prince Tavish's Crown Samur-Eye Private Eye Reggaelator Conjurer's Cowl Sultan's Ceremonial Tam O' Shanter Mask of the Shaman Tavish DeGroot Experience
Do Not Have
Prince Tavish's Crown
Do Not Have
Samur-Eye
Do Not Have
Private Eye
Do Not Have
Reggaelator
Do Not Have
Conjurer's Cowl
Do Not Have
Sultan's Ceremonial
Do Not Have
Tam O' Shanter
Do Not Have
Mask of the Shaman
Do Not Have
Tavish DeGroot Experience
Buccaneer's Bicorne Hair of the Dog Bolgan Grenadier Helm K-9 Mane Voodoo JuJu (Slight Return) Wilson Weave Bolted Bicorne Broadband Bonnet
Do Not Have
Buccaneer's Bicorne
Do Not Have
Hair of the Dog
Do Not Have
Bolgan
Do Not Have
Grenadier Helm
Do Not Have
K-9 Mane
Do Not Have
Voodoo JuJu (Slight Return)
Do Not Have
Wilson Weave
Do Not Have
Bolted Bicorne
Do Not Have
Broadband Bonnet
Cyborg Stunt Helmet FR-0 Pure Tin Capotain Strontium Stove Pipe
Do Not Have
Cyborg Stunt Helmet
Do Not Have
FR-0
Do Not Have
Pure Tin Capotain
Do Not Have
Strontium Stove Pipe
Football Helmet Officer's Ushanka Tough Guy's Toque Hound Dog Heavy Duty Rag Pugilist's Protector Hard Counter Cadaver's Cranium Dealer's Visor
Have
Football Helmet
Do Not Have
Officer's Ushanka
Do Not Have
Tough Guy's Toque
Have
Hound Dog
Have
Heavy Duty Rag
Do Not Have
Pugilist's Protector
Have
Hard Counter
Do Not Have
Cadaver's Cranium
Do Not Have
Dealer's Visor
Coupe D'isaster Big Chief Magnificent Mongolian Dread Knot Team Captain Capo's Capper Copper's Hard Top Pilotka Dragonborn Helmet
Do Not Have
Coupe D'isaster
Do Not Have
Big Chief
Do Not Have
Magnificent Mongolian
Do Not Have
Dread Knot
Do Not Have
Team Captain
Do Not Have
Capo's Capper
Do Not Have
Copper's Hard Top
Do Not Have
Pilotka
Do Not Have
Dragonborn Helmet
Storm Spirit's Jolly Hat Gym Rat One-Man Army Outdoorsman Can Opener War Head U-clank-a Crafty Hair Soviet Gentleman
Do Not Have
Storm Spirit's Jolly Hat
Do Not Have
Gym Rat
Do Not Have
One-Man Army
Do Not Have
Outdoorsman
Do Not Have
Can Opener
Do Not Have
War Head
Do Not Have
U-clank-a
Do Not Have
Crafty Hair
Do Not Have
Soviet Gentleman
Heavy Artillery Officer's Cap K-9 Mane Grand Duchess Tiara Brock's Locks Carl Pounding Father Wilson Weave Bunsen Brave Gridiron Guardian
Do Not Have
Heavy Artillery Officer's Cap
Do Not Have
K-9 Mane
Do Not Have
Grand Duchess Tiara
Do Not Have
Brock's Locks
Do Not Have
Carl
Do Not Have
Pounding Father
Do Not Have
Wilson Weave
Do Not Have
Bunsen Brave
Do Not Have
Gridiron Guardian
Tungsten Toque
Do Not Have
Tungsten Toque
Mining Light Texas Ten Gallon Engineer's Cap Texas Slim's Dome Shine Hotrod Safe'n'Sound Buckaroo's Hat Industrial Festivizer Big Country
Have
Mining Light
Do Not Have
Texas Ten Gallon
Do Not Have
Engineer's Cap
Do Not Have
Texas Slim's Dome Shine
Have
Hotrod
Do Not Have
Safe'n'Sound
Do Not Have
Buckaroo's Hat
Do Not Have
Industrial Festivizer
Do Not Have
Big Country
Professor's Peculiarity Hetman's Headpiece Western Wear Ol' Geezer Clockwerk's Helm Pencil Pusher Virtual Reality Headset Buzz Killer Tin-1000
Do Not Have
Professor's Peculiarity
Do Not Have
Hetman's Headpiece
Do Not Have
Western Wear
Do Not Have
Ol' Geezer
Do Not Have
Clockwerk's Helm
Do Not Have
Pencil Pusher
Do Not Have
Virtual Reality Headset
Do Not Have
Buzz Killer
Do Not Have
Tin-1000
Crafty Hair Master Mind Barnstormer Last Straw Vox Diabolus Wilson Weave Data Mining Light Plug-In Prospector Texas Tin-Gallon
Do Not Have
Crafty Hair
Do Not Have
Master Mind
Do Not Have
Barnstormer
Do Not Have
Last Straw
Do Not Have
Vox Diabolus
Do Not Have
Wilson Weave
Do Not Have
Data Mining Light
Do Not Have
Plug-In Prospector
Do Not Have
Texas Tin-Gallon
Timeless Topper
Do Not Have
Timeless Topper
Prussian Pickelhaube Vintage Tyrolean Otolaryngologist's Mirror Physician's Procedure Mask Ze Goggles Gentleman's Gatsby Berliner's Bucket Helm German Gonzila Geisha Boy
Do Not Have
Prussian Pickelhaube
Do Not Have
Vintage Tyrolean
Do Not Have
Otolaryngologist's Mirror
Do Not Have
Physician's Procedure Mask
Do Not Have
Ze Goggles
Do Not Have
Gentleman's Gatsby
Do Not Have
Berliner's Bucket Helm
Do Not Have
German Gonzila
Do Not Have
Geisha Boy
Medic's Mountain Cap Grimm Hatte Private Eye Team Captain Doctor's Sack Planeswalker Helm Surgeon's Stahlhelm Einstein Gentleman's Ushanka
Do Not Have
Medic's Mountain Cap
Do Not Have
Grimm Hatte
Do Not Have
Private Eye
Do Not Have
Team Captain
Do Not Have
Doctor's Sack
Do Not Have
Planeswalker Helm
Do Not Have
Surgeon's Stahlhelm
Do Not Have
Einstein
Do Not Have
Gentleman's Ushanka
Crafty Hair Combat Medic's Crusher Cap Wilson Weave Halogen Head Lamp Platinum Pickelhaube Titanium Tyrolean Virus Doctor
Do Not Have
Crafty Hair
Do Not Have
Combat Medic's Crusher Cap
Do Not Have
Wilson Weave
Do Not Have
Halogen Head Lamp
Do Not Have
Platinum Pickelhaube
Do Not Have
Titanium Tyrolean
Do Not Have
Virus Doctor
Trophy Belt Professional's Panama Master's Yellow Belt Ritzy Rick's Hair Fixative Shooter's Sola Topi Bloke's Bucket Hat Ol' Snaggletooth Larrikin Robin Crocleather Slouch
Have
Trophy Belt
Do Not Have
Professional's Panama
Do Not Have
Master's Yellow Belt
Do Not Have
Ritzy Rick's Hair Fixative
Do Not Have
Shooter's Sola Topi
Do Not Have
Bloke's Bucket Hat
Do Not Have
Ol' Snaggletooth
Do Not Have
Larrikin Robin
Do Not Have
Crocleather Slouch
Desert Marauder Anger Your Worst Nightmare Swagman's Swatter Holy Hunter Bushman's Boonie Fruit Shoot Flamingo Kid Liquidator's Lid
Do Not Have
Desert Marauder
Do Not Have
Anger
Do Not Have
Your Worst Nightmare
Do Not Have
Swagman's Swatter
Do Not Have
Holy Hunter
Do Not Have
Bushman's Boonie
Do Not Have
Fruit Shoot
Do Not Have
Flamingo Kid
Do Not Have
Liquidator's Lid
Lone Star Bolted Bushman Stovepipe Sniper Shako Cold Killer Sydney Straw Boat Bloodhound Letch's LED Shooter's Tin Topi Soldered Sensei
Do Not Have
Lone Star
Do Not Have
Bolted Bushman
Do Not Have
Stovepipe Sniper Shako
Do Not Have
Cold Killer
Do Not Have
Sydney Straw Boat
Do Not Have
Bloodhound
Do Not Have
Letch's LED
Do Not Have
Shooter's Tin Topi
Do Not Have
Soldered Sensei
Fancy Fedora Backbiter's Billycock Magistrate's Mullet Frenchman's Beret Familiar Fez Détective Noir Private Eye Charmer's Chapeau Janissary Ketche
Do Not Have
Fancy Fedora
Do Not Have
Backbiter's Billycock
Do Not Have
Magistrate's Mullet
Do Not Have
Frenchman's Beret
Do Not Have
Familiar Fez
Do Not Have
Détective Noir
Do Not Have
Private Eye
Do Not Have
Charmer's Chapeau
Do Not Have
Janissary Ketche
Cosa Nostra Cap Nanobalaclava Counterfeit Billycock L'Inspecteur Under Cover Dashin' Hashshashin Ninja Cowl Stealth Steeler Hat of Cards
Do Not Have
Cosa Nostra Cap
Do Not Have
Nanobalaclava
Do Not Have
Counterfeit Billycock
Do Not Have
L'Inspecteur
Do Not Have
Under Cover
Do Not Have
Dashin' Hashshashin
Do Not Have
Ninja Cowl
Do Not Have
Stealth Steeler
Do Not Have
Hat of Cards
Lacking Moral Fiber Mask Bloodhound Base Metal Billycock Bootleg Base Metal Billycock
Do Not Have
Lacking Moral Fiber Mask
Do Not Have
Bloodhound
Do Not Have
Base Metal Billycock
Do Not Have
Bootleg Base Metal Billycock
Cheater's Lament Ghastly Gibus Mildly Disturbing Halloween Mask Bill's Hat Modest Pile of Hat Noble Amassment of Hats Towering Pillar of Hats Max's Severed Head Alien Swarm Parasite
Do Not Have
Cheater's Lament
Do Not Have
Ghastly Gibus
Do Not Have
Mildly Disturbing
Halloween Mask
Do Not Have
Bill's Hat
Do Not Have
Modest Pile of Hat
Do Not Have
Noble Amassment of Hats
Do Not Have
Towering Pillar of Hats
Do Not Have
Max's Severed Head
Do Not Have
Alien Swarm Parasite
Mann Co. Cap Wiki Cap Ellis' Cap Ghastlier Gibus Halloween Masks Saxton Hale Mask Horseless Headless Horsemann's Head Voodoo Juju Spine-Chilling Skull
Do Not Have
Mann Co. Cap
Do Not Have
Wiki Cap
Do Not Have
Ellis' Cap
Do Not Have
Ghastlier Gibus
Do Not Have
Halloween Masks
Do Not Have
Saxton Hale Mask
Do Not Have
Horseless Headless Horsemann's Head
Do Not Have
Voodoo Juju
Do Not Have
Spine-Chilling Skull
Horrific Headsplitter Hat of Undeniable Wealth And Respect placeholder pre Dec 17th 2010.png A Rather Festive Tree World Traveler's Hat Athletic Supporter Humanitarian's Hachimaki Benefactor's Kanmuri Magnanimous Monarch Aperture Labs Hard Hat
Do Not Have
Horrific Headsplitter
Do Not Have
Treasure Hunt Hat
Do Not Have
A Rather Festive Tree
Do Not Have
World Traveler's Hat
Do Not Have
Athletic Supporter
Do Not Have
Humanitarian's Hachimaki
Do Not Have
Benefactor's Kanmuri
Do Not Have
Magnanimous Monarch
Do Not Have
Aperture Labs Hard Hat
Frontline Field Recorder Lo-Fi Longwave Spiral Sallet Proof of Purchase Summer Hat Company Man Party Hat Killer Exclusive Manniversary Paper Hat
Do Not Have
Frontline Field Recorder
Do Not Have
Lo-Fi Longwave
Do Not Have
Spiral Sallet
Do Not Have
Proof of Purchase
Do Not Have
Summer Hat
Do Not Have
Company Man
Do Not Have
Party Hat
Do Not Have
Killer Exclusive
Do Not Have
Manniversary Paper Hat
Ghastlierest Gibus Seal Mask MONOCULUS! Spine-Chilling Skull 2011 Point and Shoot Top Notch B.M.O.C. Brown Bomber Ebenezer
Do Not Have
Ghastlierest Gibus
Do Not Have
Seal Mask
Do Not Have
MONOCULUS!
Do Not Have
Spine-Chilling Skull 2011
Do Not Have
Point and Shoot
Do Not Have
Top Notch
Do Not Have
B.M.O.C.
Do Not Have
Brown Bomber
Do Not Have
Ebenezer
Full Head Of Steam Holiday Headcase Warsworn Helmet Dueler Philateler Gifting Man From Gifting Land Bolt Action Blitzer Gentle Munitionne of Leisure Robot Chicken Hat
Do Not Have
Full Head Of Steam
Do Not Have
Holiday Headcase
Do Not Have
Warsworn Helmet
Do Not Have
Dueler
Do Not Have
Philateler
Do Not Have
Gifting Man From Gifting Land
Do Not Have
Bolt Action Blitzer
Do Not Have
Gentle Munitionne of Leisure
Do Not Have
Robot Chicken Hat
Human Cannonball Ghostly Gibus Skull Island Topper Crone's Dome Executioner Cockfighter That '70s Chapeau Mann Co. Online Cap Antlers
Do Not Have
Human Cannonball
Do Not Have
Ghostly Gibus
Do Not Have
Skull Island Topper
Do Not Have
Crone's Dome
Do Not Have
Executioner
Do Not Have
Cockfighter
Do Not Have
That '70s Chapeau
Do Not Have
Mann Co. Online Cap
Do Not Have
Antlers
Tough Stuff Muffs Brütal Bouffant TF2VRH Conspiracy Cap Public Accessor Galvanized Gibus Modest Metal Pile of Scrap Noble Nickel Amassment of Hats Towering Titanium Pillar of Hats
Do Not Have
Tough Stuff Muffs
Do Not Have
Brütal Bouffant
Do Not Have
TF2VRH
Do Not Have
Conspiracy Cap
Do Not Have
Public Accessor
Do Not Have
Galvanized Gibus
Do Not Have
Modest Metal Pile of Scrap
Do Not Have
Noble Nickel Amassment of Hats
Do Not Have
Towering Titanium Pillar of Hats
Key
Have Obtained Want Wanted Do Not Have Unobtained Used To Have Previously but no longer possessed


So I thought it would be easier to keep track of which hats are 'unusual-able' and which are not in a table like this. Obtained means yes they can be found, unobtained means no they can't. From what I understand no unusual promo/misc/hatless hats can be found. The Horrific Headsplitter and Cadaver's Cranium I am not 100% sure about, but I see no reason logically why they can't be. As you can see, I believe there are currently 66 'unusual-able' hats. Moussekateer 19:22, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Impressive :D, but isnt the Texas Slim Unusual as well? ive seen someone with sunshine effect (lol) Gamecrazy009 21:49, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't know I haven't seen an unusual hatless in game and I keep reading that they can't exist. I'd love to see some evidence otherwise. Moussekateer 23:42, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

Trust me, they do not exist, I've been in the unusual trading game for a long time and I've never seen one in a trade window. There is a glitch that allows the effect to float over a players head without the hat, which may have lead to some of the confusion, but I can 100% guarantee there is no unusual hatless in the game. Just did a search on TF2TP for any unusual hatless and got nothing as well. I'll edit the article if necessary TheScoot 05:26, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, that was a long time ago. We have a table here now. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 05:28, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

"Normal" items is incorrect

As we've seen ingame, in the backpack, "normal" items are called "stock" items. Given that that is a fact, should we change that bit of article to reflect this? TomReeds 01:12, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I see your point but the first line of the 'Normal' section states 'Normal items are also called 'stock' items.' Moussekateer 01:15, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Calling them Normal is correct and this will not be changed. Internally the quality for normal/stock items is localized to "Normal", you simply don't see it in game. See http://optf2.com/item/from_schema/1 -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 01:20, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

What about not used types?

Sorry for my english, but what about "Rare" and "Common" rarity? (http://www.tf2items.com/id/jlesamiz?time=1256873790 ). Will it mention in article? Darmarok 09:22, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

This page is about qualities, and I believe what you are referring to as Common and Rare are already described under different names. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 09:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Actually, Common and Rare were separate from Unique and Unusual and all that. Though they never seem to end up outside of Valve employees or the like. Usually had absurd stats, much like the Valve quality weapons, when they were first spotted. --Vaught 09:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
I'm aware of that, but they are no longer in any of the localization files or the schema because they've been replaced by the normal and Valve qualities. There's no reason to document them if they no longer exist. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 09:43, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
For history, maybe? Darmarok 10:04, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
They're removed now? Shame, would've been nice to have a syringe gun that shot pee darts. Anyway, if anything, it's trivia material, though I'm unsure if others would agree on that.--Vaught 10:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Attributes aren't necessarily related to quality, but yes it might be trivia material however I am rather protective of this page so it may be best to wait for more input before adding a trivia section. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 10:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
We don't know what the future may hold, these qualities could easily be reused for other purposes at a later date. Better to leave them out until such time as they actually have use in-game if you ask me. Ath 11:20, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
If they are used for other purposes they won't have the same meaning they had before they were removed. So there's no reason to document them in either case. Keep in mind that the identifier for them being present in the schema doesn't mean that they're going to be used again. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 19:40, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Hatless/Headsplitter can't be unusual?

I know I've seen an unusual Hatless Sniper, so I don't think this is true. There really wouldn't be a reason these 4 hats wouldn't be able to be unusual. Balladofwindfishes

"Unique Items"

I'm not really grasping the whole, "Unique" thing. Are they ever called that in the game or the game files? It seems misleading because there is nothing unique about the unlocks, but unlocks would also be a misleading title because not all items are "unlocked". Any thoughts? TheScoot 05:22, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

It's in the game files, and it's been that way since I believe the classless updated. <3 TheMedik 05:30, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
They're called Unique in the listing of different qualities in both items_game and GetSchema to differentiate them from "Normal" items. On a more speculative level, the unlocks are probably referred to as Unique as Valve were at some point planning variable-stat varients of Normal weapons - thus making the unlockables Unique amongst the rest. ~ Ath (talk) 16:05, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
So they're only called that behind the scenes and never in the game? Then I think we should change it, since "ingame" names should be preferred and also because unique is a straight up false description of what they are. Though I have to admit I can't come up with a good one. Unlock would be better, but still not correct. --CruelCow (talk) 16:15, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
We won't be changing this. They are unique because each one has it's own ID. It's as simple as that. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 16:48, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
I personally find the term "unique" to be counter-intuitive and misleading. There's nothing unique about them, they're the most common item quality in the game. They may be unique compared to normal weapons, but they're anything but unique compared to vintage or unusual items, or items of any other quality for that matter. Calling the most common item quality "unique" just seems... wrong. I think "regular" or something would be more fitting. Zoon-li 16:37, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
They're Unique because that is what that quality level is denoted as in Valve's item system. There is a reason why they're called Unique, but ultimately the reasoning behind the name is irrelevant. This article is technical in nature and thus should accurately reflect what is, not what should be. ~ Ath (talk) 16:42, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

List of Vintage Hats

We need a list of hats labeled as Vintage because I'm having trouble finding out how many there are in the game and what else do I have left do get. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by DennoCoil (talk) • (contribs)

Most of the hats that existed before the mannconomy update became Vintage. I think it would be a bit redundant, especially considering some promotional items became Vintage due to a bug. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 01:36, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
This is something probably better achieved by tf2stats.net. ~ Ath (talk) 02:35, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
I've checked throughout that site and it doesn't tell a damn thing. I'm going to make a vintage list on this Wiki wether you like it or not. DennoCoil 18:48, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
No you're not. I've already explained why there is no point in doing it. Please show some respect to your fellow editors. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 18:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
I've looked over this Wiki and tried to comb through the patches, there's no LIST that says what items are Vintage and what aren't. Even the individual hat sections don't have a tag saying wether they can be found Vintage with other players or not. There's no reason not to have it. DennoCoil 18:56, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Because a list is redundant for the reasons given above. If there was a list it would most likely be incorrect since several items not intended to have a Vintage quality have it due to a bug. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 18:58, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
That doesn't make since, just add a asterisk with a note saying that they were given Vintage quality due to a bug. That's still not a good reason to not have one. DennoCoil 19:03, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
In addition to the reasons above any item can have any quality. So if we were to make a list of items that can be vintage that list would contain every single item in TF2, and if we were to do that we might as well make the same list for Unique, Unusual, Valve, Community, and Self-Made items. Which would also contain every single item in TF2. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 19:04, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Like how one of your buddies above this post made a huge board of hats that determine which are unusual and which aren't? Looks like an efficient system, just add different colored symbols to show which can have specific qualities and which aren't. DennoCoil 19:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Not sure what "buddy" you're referring to but I suspect you are referring to Moussekateer's Unusual hat table. That is for showing what hats can be unboxed from a crate with an unusual effect. It's completely different from your proposal. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 19:15, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
It's similar, a list can be something similar to that. It's small, compartmentalized, and it would use up less space than the main article here. DennoCoil 19:18, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
One problem is that the number of hats that cannot be made Vintage through normal means will continue to increase while the number of hats that could have been Vintage through normal means will remain stationary. A list like one that Mousse made would actually become counterintuitive because it'd just grow to show that more stuff CANNOT be of the Vintage quality. -- Psychopath User Psychopath avatar.png 19:20, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Then how about a smaller list JUST posting Vintage items? DennoCoil 19:23, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
tf2stats provides a per-hat breakdown of quality distribution, if there is no Vintages listed then there is your answer. ~ Ath (talk) 19:24, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry to add to an already incredibly lengthy discussion, but I don't see what harm there is in having a list of all items that can normally be vintage, with a note that any vintage item not on this list is caused by a glitch of some sort. Granted, it's not something extremely useful that everyone wants to know, but some people might be interested in it, and not everyone has been playing since before the Mann-conomy update and therefore knows which hats came before it and which came after. So is there any particular reason not to include an article with all items that can be vintage by normal means? Zoon-li 02:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
The list can be found here now, although it is still a WIP. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 02:12, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

WTH with vintage status

http://www.tf2items.com/id/SSaaMM_ Vintage Lid and Max. How is it possible? Darmarok 06:44, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Easily. Any quality can be assigned to any item. In this case, the items in question will have been returned to the owner after it being scammed or deleted. ~ Ath (talk) 19:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
How it can be assigned? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darmarok (talk) • (contribs)
Look in items_game.txt for the item_quality field. Anything shown in the qualities block can be assigned to it, for example you can change item_quality to "unique" on the headtaker and it would appear as a unique item (yellow text) in game. Please remember to sign your talk page lines with ~~~~. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 12:21, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
It is also note-worthy to know that there have been documented cases of Steam support offering the service of adding "vintage" attributes to certain items upon the "reasonable" request of an item owner. This has been fixed as of last month, however, and all items granted back by steam support here after are of only the same attributes as before it was lost/claimed.Roninsmastermix 19:28, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Well when I contacted Steam Support about not receiving a Cheater's Lament during the Mannconomy Update (as I was active before & after it), I was hoping they'd accidentally assign it Vintage quality. Alas, that didn't happen so I guess Steam Support has smartened up abit and has begun making sure the items have their proper quality. 404 User Not Found 21:13, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Genuine Rarity color is...

Dun dun dun.....the former "rarity2", as seen here on this image. I just received both RIFT items and the rarity color is that army green, not black. 404 User Not Found 02:53, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

We know, it's already on the article? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 02:54, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Uhhh....according to my browser (Firefox), it's Black. Hence why I posted this. 404 User Not Found 02:55, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Odd. Try clearing your cache a few times? User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 02:56, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
There we go. Now it's the proper color. I wonder what Valve will do with color #1 and #4.... 404 User Not Found 02:57, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
For heaven's sake, I wish they used the orange rarity3 color instead of this one! It's green! I hope no scams occur involving name tags and trying to pass off "genuine" items as community/self-made itemsHellJumper 05:27, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't think anyone owns a Self-made Sun-on-a-Stick or Sharpened Volcano Fragment, and those are the only Genuine Items currently in existence (The Hat may be Genuine Quality too) so don't shicherself over that. Lancer anti-tank Rocket 11:03, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Also, a question about Community/Self-Made rarity color.

While I'm here, I may as well ask this: Are we sure that Community/Self-Made is #70B031 ? I loaded this image up into Photoshop, and eyedropped the Community/Self-Made quality colors. The hex code I saw when I checked was not #70B031, but #70B04A. So which is the correct one? Is the hex code listed somewhere in a TF2 file somewhere, like perhaps items_game.txt? 404 User Not Found 03:33, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

It looks like someone messed up. I recorded it as #70B04A here and that is the correct colour in ClientScheme.res. -- Pilk (talk) 03:40, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
I've encountered this issue before, screencapping and sampling with an eyedropper will result in slightly raised values. Use ClientScheme.res for accurate values, and if you're going to be using CSS you can just use rgb() notation too so you don't have to worry about converting to hex. ~ Ath (talk) 04:26, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Wait is it really true that when you trade Genuine quality items does it really revert to Unique quality?

I saw it said something about that but then it got taken off?--Mann Co. Orange is awesome 04:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

It's most likely not true, the person that originally added that note did not provide proof and I have read several reports to the contrary. -- Lagg Backpack Stickybomb Launcher.png 04:11, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
no. genuine items are permanent.even when u trade them ~awesomesauce~ 04:13, 4 February 2011 (UTC)AWESOMESAUCE
Yep, see the sitenotice up top. User Moussekateer signature sprite.pngMoussekateer·talk 04:16, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Genuine

Do you think that there will be any more items with "genuine" quality --Iaindude 11:27, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

It's only gonna get worse, mate. Lancer anti-tank Rocket 11:45, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
Take it to the forums. Talk pages are for discussion about the articles in question. — nVis (talk) 11:48, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
All future promotional items will be untradable until the promotional period ends. Seems logical to assume that the genuine quality will continue to function in the same way (ie preorder and get genuine until after period where you can craft it).--Focusknock 11:25, 3 March 2011 (UTC)

Customized weapons

the article states that "Customized" quality is unused. I did see a customized item the other day. It was on a server where valve employees play often so it might've been a valve employee, but still. Can somebody back this up somehow? I'll see if I can find the guy's backpack. [ATG] Lord Melchior Painted Trophy Belt FF69B4.png (userpage|talk|contributions) -- 11:22, 3 March 2011 (UTC)