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{{Weapon infobox
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| type              = weapon
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| has-team-colors = yes
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| team-colors       = yes
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| skin-image-red = RED Überneedle.png
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| skin-image-red     = RED Überneedle.png
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| skin-image-blu = BLU Überneedle.png
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| skin-image-blu     = BLU Überneedle.png
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| weapon-slot = [[Melee]]
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| used-by            = {{used by|Medic}}
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| used-by = [[Medic]]
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| slot               = melee
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| released = [[Mann-Conomy Update]]
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| contributed-by     = {{Backpack Item Link|76561197982751575|152279192}}<br>{{Backpack Item Link|76561197984476370|152279749}}
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| level-and-type = Level 5 Bonesaw
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| released          = {{Patch name|9|30|2010}}
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| ammo-loaded = N/A
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| released-major    = Mann-Conomy Update
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| ammo-carried = N/A
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| availability      = {{avail|drop|craft|crate1|collectors}}
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| display-loadout-stats = yes
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| marketable        = yes
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| positive-attributes = On death up to 20% of your stored ÜberCharge is retained.
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| numbered          = no
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| negative-attributes = -10 max health on wearer
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| ammo-loaded       = {{common string|N/A}}
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| availability = Drop
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| ammo-carried       = {{common string|N/A}}
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| loadout           = yes
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  | item-kind        = {{item kind|Bonesaw}}
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  | item-level      = 5
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  | item-description = {{item description|Vita-Saw}}
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  | att-1-positive  = {{attribute|UberchargeSavedOnHit}}
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  | att-2-negative  = {{attribute|MaxHealth_Negative|-10}}
 
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{{Quotation|'''The Medic'''|I healed zuh man who will kill you.|sound=Medic_taunts06.wav}}
 
  
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The '''Vita-Saw''' is an unlockable [[melee weapon]] for the [[Medic]] class. It appears as a rusty gas pump handle with a long needle, a knife under the needle, and a container with some liquid on top. It was originally created by Pie_Tony, Daimao, and IdleTard as a replacement for the [[Übersaw]], hence its similarities to it.
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{{Quotation|'''The Medic''' on saws with needles|Did that sting? '''"Saw-ry!"'''|sound=Medic specialcompleted01.wav}}
  
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The weapon takes 10 health away from its user, but retains 20% of the Medic's current ÜberCharge if he dies.  For example, if a Medic dies with 40% ÜberCharge, they will respawn with 8% ÜberCharge.
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The '''Vita-Saw''' ({{pronounce|vaɪtɑːsɔː}} {{respell|veye|tah-saw}}) is a [[Steam Workshop|community-created]] [[Weapons#medicmelee|melee weapon]] for the [[Medic]]. It is a rusty gas pump handle that has been outfitted with both a long needle and blood-stained knife underneath, and with a container connected to the top of the main part of the weapon, filled with a team-colored [[Jiggle bones|liquid]] with a slight [[Self-illumination|glow]] to it. A small skull and bones symbol, coupled with eight tally marks, has been etched into the flat of the blade.
  
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== Damage ==
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When equipped, this weapon lowers the Medic's maximum [[health]] by 10, reducing his total health to 140. On the other hand, every hit against an enemy using the Vita-Saw "collects" their organs (also spawning a purely-cosmetic generic organ [[Gibs|gib]]). After dying, the Medic [[respawn]]s with whatever [[ÜberCharge]] value they died with, but only up to a maximum based on the number of organs harvested in the previous life, each organ allowing 15% ÜberCharge to be retained, to a maximum of 60%.
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{{See also|Damage}}
 
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* Base: 65 (59 to 72 Damage)
 
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* Mini-Crit: 80 Damage
 
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* [[Critical hit]]: 195 Damage
 
  
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== Function times ==
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If the player kills an enemy [[Demoman]] wielding the [[Eyelander]], [[Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker]] or [[Nessie's Nine Iron]], a [[Soldier]] wielding the [[Air Strike]], a [[Sniper]] wielding the [[Bazaar Bargain]], or a Medic wielding the Vita-Saw, they receive an amount of organs relative to the kills or organs the victim had collected.
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* Attack Interval: 0.8
 
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All times are in seconds. Times are approximate and determined by community testing.
 
  
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==Trivia==
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The ÜberCharge stored is kept if the player switches teams, but is lost if they change [[classes]]. The Vita-Saw stores charge upon death, and therefore the Medic can use a different melee weapon while building charge or even change melee loadout while respawning. So long as he dies with it equipped and does not change classes, the Medic respawns with his previous ÜberCharge percentage to the maximum limit of 60%. An ÜberCharge is always lost when a round ends (when the objective of the game is met; i.e. all points in a map are captured).<!-- may need reconfirmation after new update -->
  
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* It very closely resembles the large needle syringe carried around by the Little Sisters from the game BioShock. Its name is also similar to the Vita-Chamber from the same game, a device which resurrect individuals who die in their vicinity.
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Similar to the [[Ubersaw]], the vial fills up with a team-colored liquid as an ÜberCharge is built and drain as it is deployed.
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* A small "skull and bones" symbol has been scratched into the blade of the saw, with eight tally marks next to it.
 
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* This weapon houses the possible in-joke of Medic being a Little Sister and Heavy being the Big Daddy. The stats of the weapon help this claim by making the Medic a little more dependent on a teammate due to lower health.
 
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* The liquid within the vial on the back is jiggleboned, which means that it will swirl around in the vial as the Medic moves.
 
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* The Vita-Saw is randomly available through [[Mann Co. Supply Crates]] which are dropped in game by drop system, as well as through regular random item drops.
 
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* The Vita-Saw's design seems to be an amalgam of the Medic's Übersaw, Syringe Gun (barrel), and the Medic's beta needle weapon.
 
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*Currently, the Vita-Saw has the same taunt as the Bonesaw, where he plays the weapon like a violin.  Due to the needle, it appears as though he is stabbing himself in the neck.
 
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*If a Medic actives his ÜberCharge, but dies while its activated, as long as the Charge does not dip below 19%, he will retain that 19%.
 
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*The ÜberCharge will be kept even if you change teams, however it will be lost if you change classes.
 
  
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==Gallery==
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The kill icon for the Vita-Saw was contributed by {{Steamid|76561197976113694}}.
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The Vita-Saw was later [https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=146832631 contributed] to the Steam Workshop, at [[Valve]]'s request.
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== Damage and function times ==
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{{Damage table
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| identical        = [[Bonesaw]]
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| damagetype      = Melee
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| rangetype        = Melee
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| damage          = yes
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|  base            = 65
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|  crit            = 195
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|  minicrit        = 88
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| function times  = yes
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|  attack interval = 0.8 s
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}}
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== Health ==
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{{Main|Health}}
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{{Class health pack and overheal table|overheal|medic=yes}}
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{{Weapon Demonstration}}
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== Crafting ==
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{{See also|Crafting}}
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=== Blueprint ===
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{{Blueprint
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| ingredient-1 = Übersaw
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| ingredient-2 = Scrap Metal
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|ingredient-2-amount = 2
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| result = Vita-Saw
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}}
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{{Blueprint | autoresult = Medic Melee}}
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=== As a crafting ingredient ===
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{{Blueprint
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| ingredient-1 = Vita-Saw
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| ingredient-2 = Scrap Metal
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| result = Amputator
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}}
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== Related achievements ==
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=== {{Class link|Medic}} ===
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{{Achievement table
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| 1 = {{Show achievement|Medic|FYI I am a Medic}}
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      {{Show achievement|Medic|Peer Review}}
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| 2 = {{Show achievement|Medic|Sawbones}}
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}}
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== Update history ==
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{{Update history|
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'''{{Patch name|9|30|2010}}''' ([[Mann-Conomy Update]])
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* The Vita-Saw was added to the game.
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'''{{Patch name|10|6|2010}}'''
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* {{undocumented}} Gave the Vita-Saw a unique [[crafting]] recipe.
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'''{{Patch name|11|19|2010}}'''
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* [[Taunts|Taunting]] with the Vita-Saw now plays the old Ubersaw taunt - a deeper viola tone. Previously it shared a taunt with the Bonesaw.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06jnZeQCTvc YouTube video]</ref>
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'''{{Patch name|12|2|2010}}'''
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* The mesh's smoothing groups were fixed resulting in a clean, hard-edged look as opposed to the molten appearance it had before.
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'''{{Patch name|12|21|2010}}'''
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* {{Undocumented}} The Vita-Saw was added to the crafting blueprint for the [[Amputator]].
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'''{{Patch name|1|7|2011}}'''
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* The Vita-Saw was given a unique [[kill icon]].
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'''{{Patch name|2|14|2011}}'''
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* Fixed melee attacks not destroying remote detonation pipes (Stickybombs).
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'''{{Patch name|3|15|2011}}'''
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* The crafting cost of the Vita-Saw was changed from 2 Reclaimed Metal and a Ubersaw to 2 Scrap Metal and a Ubersaw.
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* The crafting cost of the [[Amputator]] was changed from 1 Reclaimed Metal and a Vita-Saw to 1 Scrap Metal and a Vita-Saw.
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'''{{Patch name|6|10|2011}}'''
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* Fixed the Vita-Saw not displaying the Medic's ÜberCharge progress.
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'''{{Patch name|11|12|2013}}'''
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* Added [[Collector's]] quality.
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'''{{Patch name|7|3|2015}}'''
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* Fixed the Vitasaw{{sic}} no longer giving its ÜberCharge bonus after death.
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'''{{Patch name|10|20|2017}} #1''' ([[Jungle Inferno Update]])
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* Changed attributes:
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** Added Organs collecting concept. Each hit with the Vita-Saw harvests the victim's organs. Preserves 15% ubercharge{{sic}} per Organ harvested on-death. Effect caps at 60% total ubercharge.
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'''{{Patch name|11|1|2017}}'''
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* {{undocumented}} Updated the description of the Vita-Saw.
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'''{{Patch name|12|13|2017}}'''
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* Updated the Vita-Saw so victims spawn random internal organs on hit.
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'''{{Patch name|3|28|2018}} #1'''
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* Fixed being able to collect organs with the Vita-Saw during a truce.
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}}
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== Bugs ==
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* The "Organs" display overlaps with the "Energy" upgrade display in [[Mann vs. Machine]] on the HUD.
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* Due to [[lag compensation]], the "Organs" counter may display an incorrect number of organs.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP0suB3Q6pQ Organ counter bug]</ref>
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* Firing any primary weapon and switching to the Vita-Saw before the projectile hits an enemy causes an organ to spawn when the projectile hits them. This is merely visual and does not go towards the organ count.
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== Notes ==
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* The Vita-Saw was announced to have '''Allows you to see enemy health''' attribute in the {{Patch name|4|14|2011}} ([[Hatless Update]]). This did not happen, and the incorrect information was removed from the official release note. This stat would be later introduced in another Medic melee weapon, the [[Solemn Vow]].
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== Trivia ==
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[[File:Bioshock Needle.png|thumb|150px|right|The ADAM Harvester from ''BioShock''.]]
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* The Vita-Saw strongly resembles the ADAM Harvester from the ''[[w:Bioshock|BioShock]]'' series.
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<!-- (source needed) * Due to this weapon's strong resemblance to the ADAM Harvester from the ''BioShock'' series (seen to the right), Valve requested and subsequently received permission from 2K Games to include it in ''Team Fortress 2''.
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** The connection to ''BioShock'' is further reinforced in the name, which is a reference to the Vita-Chambers from ''Bioshock''. The Vita-Saw and Vita-Chambers even share similar functions. In ''BioShock'', the Vita-Chambers respawn the player with a portion of their health and EVE, the energy used to perform abilities. Similarly, the Vita-Saw will respawn the player with a portion of their ÜberCharge after death.
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** Due to copyright reasons, this item is not sold in the [[Mann Co. Store]]. -->
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== Gallery ==
 
<gallery>
 
<gallery>
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File:Vita-Saw 1st person red cropped.png|RED 1st person view.
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File:Vita-Saw 1st person red.png|[[RED]] first-person view.
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File:Vita-Saw 1st person red.png|Full RED 1st person view.
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File:Vita-Saw 1st person blu.png|[[BLU]] first-person view.
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File:Vita-Saw 1st person blu cropped.png|BLU 1st person view.
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File:Steamworkshop tf2 vita-saw thumb.jpg|Steam Workshop thumbnail for the Vita-Saw.
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File:Vita-Saw 1st person blu.png|Full BLU 1st person view.
 
 
</gallery>
 
</gallery>
  
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== References ==
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<references/>
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== See also ==
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* [[Basic Medic strategy#Vita-Saw|Vita-Saw strategy]]
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[[Category:Jiggleboned]]
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[[Category:Self-illuminated]]

Latest revision as of 18:13, 1 September 2023

“
Did that sting? "Saw-ry!"
Click to listen
— The Medic on saws with needles
 ”

The Vita-Saw (/vaɪtɑːsɔː/ veye-tah-saw) is a community-created melee weapon for the Medic. It is a rusty gas pump handle that has been outfitted with both a long needle and blood-stained knife underneath, and with a container connected to the top of the main part of the weapon, filled with a team-colored liquid with a slight glow to it. A small skull and bones symbol, coupled with eight tally marks, has been etched into the flat of the blade.

When equipped, this weapon lowers the Medic's maximum health by 10, reducing his total health to 140. On the other hand, every hit against an enemy using the Vita-Saw "collects" their organs (also spawning a purely-cosmetic generic organ gib). After dying, the Medic respawns with whatever ÜberCharge value they died with, but only up to a maximum based on the number of organs harvested in the previous life, each organ allowing 15% ÜberCharge to be retained, to a maximum of 60%.

If the player kills an enemy Demoman wielding the Eyelander, Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker or Nessie's Nine Iron, a Soldier wielding the Air Strike, a Sniper wielding the Bazaar Bargain, or a Medic wielding the Vita-Saw, they receive an amount of organs relative to the kills or organs the victim had collected.

The ÜberCharge stored is kept if the player switches teams, but is lost if they change classes. The Vita-Saw stores charge upon death, and therefore the Medic can use a different melee weapon while building charge or even change melee loadout while respawning. So long as he dies with it equipped and does not change classes, the Medic respawns with his previous ÜberCharge percentage to the maximum limit of 60%. An ÜberCharge is always lost when a round ends (when the objective of the game is met; i.e. all points in a map are captured).

Similar to the Ubersaw, the vial fills up with a team-colored liquid as an ÜberCharge is built and drain as it is deployed.

The kill icon for the Vita-Saw was contributed by Psyke .

The Vita-Saw was later contributed to the Steam Workshop, at Valve's request.

Damage and function times

See also: Damage
Identical to: Bonesaw
Damage and function times
Damage type Melee
Ranged or Melee damage? Melee
Damage
Base damage 100% 65
Critical 195
Mini-crit 88
Function times
Attack interval 0.8 s
Values are approximate and determined by community testing.

Health

Main article: Health
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 Class 		Health Overheal Quick-Fix Overheal
Leaderboard class medic.png Medic 150 225 189
With the Vita-Saw equipped 140 210 176

Demonstration

Crafting

See also: Crafting

Blueprint

Ubersaw Scrap Metal Vita-Saw
Item icon Ubersaw.png + Item icon Scrap Metal.pngx2 = Item icon Vita-Saw.png
Class Token - Medic Slot Token - Melee Scrap Metal Possible Results
Item icon Class Token - Medic.png + Item icon Slot Token - Melee.png + Item icon Scrap Metal.png =
Item icon Ubersaw.png Item icon Vita-Saw.png Item icon Amputator.png Item icon Solemn Vow.png
Item icon Freedom Staff.png Item icon Ham Shank.png Item icon Bat Outta Hell.png Item icon Conscientious Objector.png

As a crafting ingredient

Vita-Saw Scrap Metal Amputator
Item icon Vita-Saw.png + Item icon Scrap Metal.png = Item icon Amputator.png

Related achievements

Leaderboard class medic.png Medic

FYI I am A Medic
 FYI I am A Medic
Use your bonesaw to kill a spy who has been calling for 'Medic!'.


Peer Review
 Peer Review
Kill 10 Medics with your bone saw.
Sawbones
 Sawbones
Hit enemies with your bonesaw 5 times in a row without dying or missing.

Update history

September 30, 2010 Patch (Mann-Conomy Update)
  • The Vita-Saw was added to the game.

October 6, 2010 Patch

  • [Undocumented] Gave the Vita-Saw a unique crafting recipe.

November 19, 2010 Patch

  • Taunting with the Vita-Saw now plays the old Ubersaw taunt - a deeper viola tone. Previously it shared a taunt with the Bonesaw.[1]

December 2, 2010 Patch

  • The mesh's smoothing groups were fixed resulting in a clean, hard-edged look as opposed to the molten appearance it had before.

December 21, 2010 Patch

  • [Undocumented] The Vita-Saw was added to the crafting blueprint for the Amputator.

January 7, 2011 Patch

February 14, 2011 Patch

  • Fixed melee attacks not destroying remote detonation pipes (Stickybombs).

March 15, 2011 Patch

  • The crafting cost of the Vita-Saw was changed from 2 Reclaimed Metal and a Ubersaw to 2 Scrap Metal and a Ubersaw.
  • The crafting cost of the Amputator was changed from 1 Reclaimed Metal and a Vita-Saw to 1 Scrap Metal and a Vita-Saw.

June 10, 2011 Patch

  • Fixed the Vita-Saw not displaying the Medic's ÜberCharge progress.

November 12, 2013 Patch

July 3, 2015 Patch

  • Fixed the Vitasaw(sic) no longer giving its ÜberCharge bonus after death.

October 20, 2017 Patch #1 (Jungle Inferno Update)

  • Changed attributes:
    • Added Organs collecting concept. Each hit with the Vita-Saw harvests the victim's organs. Preserves 15% ubercharge(sic) per Organ harvested on-death. Effect caps at 60% total ubercharge.

November 1, 2017 Patch

  • [Undocumented] Updated the description of the Vita-Saw.

December 13, 2017 Patch

  • Updated the Vita-Saw so victims spawn random internal organs on hit.

March 28, 2018 Patch #1

  • Fixed being able to collect organs with the Vita-Saw during a truce.

Bugs

  • The "Organs" display overlaps with the "Energy" upgrade display in Mann vs. Machine on the HUD.
  • Due to lag compensation, the "Organs" counter may display an incorrect number of organs.[2]
  • Firing any primary weapon and switching to the Vita-Saw before the projectile hits an enemy causes an organ to spawn when the projectile hits them. This is merely visual and does not go towards the organ count.

Notes

  • The Vita-Saw was announced to have Allows you to see enemy health attribute in the April 14, 2011 Patch (Hatless Update). This did not happen, and the incorrect information was removed from the official release note. This stat would be later introduced in another Medic melee weapon, the Solemn Vow.

Trivia

The ADAM Harvester from BioShock.
  • The Vita-Saw strongly resembles the ADAM Harvester from the BioShock series.

Gallery

  • RED first-person view.

  • BLU first-person view.

  • Steam Workshop thumbnail for the Vita-Saw.

References

  1. ↑ YouTube video
  2. ↑ Organ counter bug

See also

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