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== Locations == | == Locations == | ||
===Intel room=== | ===Intel room=== | ||
| − | Each base has an | + | Each base has an Intelligence or 'flag' room; it's a square room with railings covering the [[Intelligence]]. It features lots of space to build, a small medikit and and 4 entrances: From the resupply stairs, drop down from the Vent system and 2 circular entrances from the hallway. None of them are "closed". |
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Image:Ctf_turbine_v30023.jpg|The map overview of Red's base (Blu base is mirrored) showing the various routes to the [[Intelligence]], including the vents | Image:Ctf_turbine_v30023.jpg|The map overview of Red's base (Blu base is mirrored) showing the various routes to the [[Intelligence]], including the vents | ||
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===Hallway=== | ===Hallway=== | ||
| − | There is a hallway to the | + | There is a hallway to the Intelligence room containing 2 bends and a raised platform that [[Scout]]s can [[double jump]] to, and [[Engineer]]s can deploy their [[teleporter]]s up to. |
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Image:Ctf_turbine_v30016.jpg|The Hallway | Image:Ctf_turbine_v30016.jpg|The Hallway | ||
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===Resupply=== | ===Resupply=== | ||
| − | The resupply/respawn room is in the bend of a rear hallway. One direction leads down some steps to the | + | The resupply/respawn room is in the bend of a rear hallway. One direction leads down some steps to the Intelligence room, the while the other direction leads to vent access, then a stairway down to the center turbine room. This entrance has a sliding "garage"-style door. |
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Image:Ctf_turbine_v30020.jpg|Resupply | Image:Ctf_turbine_v30020.jpg|Resupply | ||
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===Vents=== | ===Vents=== | ||
| − | There are small vents that people can go through from the [[respawn area]] or large turbine room. The vents also lead to a hole to drop into the | + | There are small vents that people can go through from the [[respawn area]] or large turbine room. The vents also lead to a hole to drop into the Intelligence room. |
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Image:Ctf_turbine_v30021.jpg|The Vent system | Image:Ctf_turbine_v30021.jpg|The Vent system | ||
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== Strategy == | == Strategy == | ||
| − | This map doesn't have many specific strategies. You can [[Scout]] rush, use [[Engineer]]s to put [[Sentry| | + | This map doesn't have many specific strategies. You can [[Scout]] rush, use [[Engineer]]s to put [[Sentry|Sentry Gun]]s in choke points, or use [[Pyro]]s to ambush. |
| − | *One thing to note about this map is that there is no "sewer" through which enemies can sneak into or out of your base. The intelligence MUST travel through the middle turbine room of the map to be captured. This can make control of the middle much more rewarding than simply attempting to defend the | + | *One thing to note about this map is that there is no "sewer" through which enemies can sneak into or out of your base. The intelligence MUST travel through the middle turbine room of the map to be captured. This can make control of the middle much more rewarding than simply attempting to defend the Intelligence room. Unlike some other CTF maps like Doublecross or 2Fort, Turbine's middle is very open without a chokepoint like a bridge; there is also no "Sniper deck" that is difficult for most classes to access. A team that turtles and cedes control of the middle to the other team is going to have a much harder time. A team with a group of Engineers that successfully fortifies the middle of this map can be devastatingly effective. |
| − | *For [[Spies]] it is easy to [[ | + | *For [[Spies]] it is easy to [[Cloak]] right before the steel doors of the base open, making traversing the central chamber easier with the Cloak lasting long enough to either get into the vents or close to the Intelligence room. |
*It is common to see Demomen placing sticky traps on the sliding steel doors on either side depending on which team they are on. Sticky traps are also commonly seen in the air vents. Even Spies can be vulnerable to this tactic as the Demoman laying these traps often detonates them as soon as they see the doors open, regardless of who they see. Spies using the Dead Ringer, Scouts using Bonk! as well as Demomen using the [Scottish Resistance] can be extremely useful to break enemy sticky traps at little risk to themselves. | *It is common to see Demomen placing sticky traps on the sliding steel doors on either side depending on which team they are on. Sticky traps are also commonly seen in the air vents. Even Spies can be vulnerable to this tactic as the Demoman laying these traps often detonates them as soon as they see the doors open, regardless of who they see. Spies using the Dead Ringer, Scouts using Bonk! as well as Demomen using the [Scottish Resistance] can be extremely useful to break enemy sticky traps at little risk to themselves. | ||
*Another common tactic of Demomen camping this area is to stand outside of the health pack area and to shoot grenades through the enemy's vent. It is almost impossible for the enemy to dodge these grenades. This tactic can suppress the enemy as they cannot use the garage doors and using the vent route will result in Heavy damage. | *Another common tactic of Demomen camping this area is to stand outside of the health pack area and to shoot grenades through the enemy's vent. It is almost impossible for the enemy to dodge these grenades. This tactic can suppress the enemy as they cannot use the garage doors and using the vent route will result in Heavy damage. | ||
*This tactic of placing sticky traps on the garage doors can be used both defensively on your own base's doors as well as the enemy's doors. | *This tactic of placing sticky traps on the garage doors can be used both defensively on your own base's doors as well as the enemy's doors. | ||
*Traversing through the vents allows Spies to pop out and back stab any enemies running down the stairs. | *Traversing through the vents allows Spies to pop out and back stab any enemies running down the stairs. | ||
| − | *In the hallway to the | + | *In the hallway to the Intelligence, Engineers should get up onto the platform and build a strong defense there as most players will assault from that direction, due to the fact that they will not have to travel past the enemy spawn point. You can reach the platform either with a [[Dispenser]] jump, jumping and placing a [[Teleporter]] exit as well as performing a crouch jump near in one of the corners. |
| − | *Pyros should Spy check near the vents and the hallway to the | + | *Pyros should Spy check near the vents and the hallway to the Intelligence room as well as the corner outside of the respawn door closest to the Intelligence room. |
*Scouts should temporarily switch to the [[bat]] when travelling through either team's vent because of the constricted nature of the vents. Players will have little room to avoid a series of melee attacks without dying. The bat can also be used for Spy checking disguised Spies in this area. | *Scouts should temporarily switch to the [[bat]] when travelling through either team's vent because of the constricted nature of the vents. Players will have little room to avoid a series of melee attacks without dying. The bat can also be used for Spy checking disguised Spies in this area. | ||
| − | *A good | + | *A good Sentry Gun spot in the Intelligence room is to the left of the Intelligence, facing the wall separating the two doorways into the hall that leads to the turbine room. The Sentry Gun cannot be hit or seen with the correct placement, but it will still cover most of the room, and stop most who drop down from vents. |
| − | *Engineers will do best working in teams on this map, as there are no | + | *Engineers will do best working in teams on this map, as there are no Sentry Gun spots that do not have some disadvantage to them. When playing Engineer on Turbine, always mind your fellow Engineers and lend them a hand if you can, especially with Sentry Gun setup. Demomen and Engineers can often work wonders together, with Engineers setting up in the Intelligence room and Demomen clearing out the vents and the hallway of any intruders. |
| − | *A good place for a teleport exit if you are active in the | + | *A good place for a teleport exit if you are active in the Intelligence room is near the vent exit that drops into the Intelligence room. This will alert you to any enemies who are coming through the vent, as most cannot resist taking down the teleporter exit. The exit can be of use to teammates, as well, as it can be used to help them clear out the vents or go through the hallway to the Intelligence room. |
| − | *If your team manages to push the other team back to their spawn or | + | *If your team manages to push the other team back to their spawn or Intelligence room, Engineers can jump onto the containers in the main hall and build Sentry Guns there. One on each container is (without Übers) a nearly unbreakable defense. |
| − | *Engineers should build | + | *Engineers should build Dispensers and teleporter exits at the own-team-faced side of the containers to provide quick movement and fast reloading/healing. |
| − | *If you find that the enemy is abusing your vents, the following is a good defensive strategy for the Engineer. It also has the added benefit of protecting your spawn area from the turbine room entrance. First, build a | + | *If you find that the enemy is abusing your vents, the following is a good defensive strategy for the Engineer. It also has the added benefit of protecting your spawn area from the turbine room entrance. First, build a Sentry Gun in the cubby hole near the top of the stairs leading from your spawn to the turbine room and facing the spawn's entrance to your vents. Then, place your Dispenser in the vents just inside the long corridor leading to the Intelligence room. It should be built just far enough in that any opponent turning the bend from the turbine room won't notice it blocking their path until they're in your Sentry Gun's range, but not too far in to allow the enemy shelter from the Sentry Gun. The Dispenser will act as an obstacle long enough for a non-Übered opponent to get killed by your Sentry Gun, and will prevent Scouts (either with or without soda) from avoiding your Sentry Gun by quickly ducking from one corridor to the next. This has the added benefit that, if your Sentry Gun gets sapped/destroyed, they still have to kill your Dispenser to use that corridor, giving your team early warning. |
*One of the best tactics for the close quarters Scout is to go through your base's vents, double-jump to the middle of the enemy stair on the main room and then continue on the enemy vents. Doing so will avoid most of the medium range combat on the Turbine room. | *One of the best tactics for the close quarters Scout is to go through your base's vents, double-jump to the middle of the enemy stair on the main room and then continue on the enemy vents. Doing so will avoid most of the medium range combat on the Turbine room. | ||
| − | *Engineers should place their defensive | + | *Engineers should place their defensive Sentry Guns in a direction that is constantly monitoring the drop out of the vent and both doors in the Intelligence room. (a good place would be to the left of the stairs, facing the small medkit and against the wall.) |
| − | *For a surprise on ambushing enemies, place a | + | *For a surprise on ambushing enemies, place a Sentry Gun on the stairs next to the "garage" door, facing towards the main room. |
| − | *Underneath the "Sniper decks" on the middle area is a surprisingly good place for Snipers to sit. On the left side, Snipers can walk back behind the door and into their spawn area if enemies get too close, and the right side (the path to the | + | *Underneath the "Sniper decks" on the middle area is a surprisingly good place for Snipers to sit. On the left side, Snipers can walk back behind the door and into their spawn area if enemies get too close, and the right side (the path to the Intelligence) gives the Sniper a very good shot at the door where many players will exit their spawn area. |
| − | *It is also possible to get onto the roof of the | + | *It is also possible to get onto the roof of the Intelligence room as a Demoman performing a sticky/grenade jump, a Soldier who performs a rocketjump as well as a Scout using fan. This spot is useful as a Demoman to defend the Intelligence. |
*Running around one of the turbines in the main room can provide some momentary cover. This tactic works best against Heavies, hopefully with that extra time, a team mate may have taken care of the enemy for you. | *Running around one of the turbines in the main room can provide some momentary cover. This tactic works best against Heavies, hopefully with that extra time, a team mate may have taken care of the enemy for you. | ||
Revision as of 03:14, 10 August 2010
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| Variants: | Turbine Center |
| Developer(s): | Unknown |
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| Map Overview | |
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Turbine is a Capture the Flag map that was released with the Pyro Update as an official map. It and CP_Fastlane became the first community created maps to be chosen by Valve as official TF2 maps due to their outstanding quality. Turbine is one of two official maps that are set entirely indoors, the other being CP_Junction, another community created map.
| “ | A CTF map inside a large industrial compound. It's clean and straightforward, making it easy to learn, but its well balanced layout ensures there are still a wide variety of strategic choices for teams to make, and for individual classes to shine.
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To win your team must capture the opposing team's Intelligence continuously until you reach the game's capture limit (default limit is 3) whilst preventing the enemy from achieving the same.
Contents
Locations
Intel room
Each base has an Intelligence or 'flag' room; it's a square room with railings covering the Intelligence. It features lots of space to build, a small medikit and and 4 entrances: From the resupply stairs, drop down from the Vent system and 2 circular entrances from the hallway. None of them are "closed".
The map overview of Red's base (Blu base is mirrored) showing the various routes to the Intelligence, including the vents
- Ctf turbine v30019.jpg
Red's intelligence room
Hallway
There is a hallway to the Intelligence room containing 2 bends and a raised platform that Scouts can double jump to, and Engineers can deploy their teleporters up to.
- Ctf turbine v30016.jpg
The Hallway
Resupply
The resupply/respawn room is in the bend of a rear hallway. One direction leads down some steps to the Intelligence room, the while the other direction leads to vent access, then a stairway down to the center turbine room. This entrance has a sliding "garage"-style door.
- Ctf turbine v30020.jpg
Resupply
Vents
There are small vents that people can go through from the respawn area or large turbine room. The vents also lead to a hole to drop into the Intelligence room.
- Ctf turbine v30021.jpg
The Vent system
Large turbine room
This area will see a lot of traffic. It's between the two bases with 2 containers in the middle. There are also stairs leading to both bases vent exits.
- Ctf turbine v30015.jpg
Turbine room
- TF2 Turbine map.jpg
View from the RED balcony
Strategy
This map doesn't have many specific strategies. You can Scout rush, use Engineers to put Sentry Guns in choke points, or use Pyros to ambush.
- One thing to note about this map is that there is no "sewer" through which enemies can sneak into or out of your base. The intelligence MUST travel through the middle turbine room of the map to be captured. This can make control of the middle much more rewarding than simply attempting to defend the Intelligence room. Unlike some other CTF maps like Doublecross or 2Fort, Turbine's middle is very open without a chokepoint like a bridge; there is also no "Sniper deck" that is difficult for most classes to access. A team that turtles and cedes control of the middle to the other team is going to have a much harder time. A team with a group of Engineers that successfully fortifies the middle of this map can be devastatingly effective.
- For Spies it is easy to Cloak right before the steel doors of the base open, making traversing the central chamber easier with the Cloak lasting long enough to either get into the vents or close to the Intelligence room.
- It is common to see Demomen placing sticky traps on the sliding steel doors on either side depending on which team they are on. Sticky traps are also commonly seen in the air vents. Even Spies can be vulnerable to this tactic as the Demoman laying these traps often detonates them as soon as they see the doors open, regardless of who they see. Spies using the Dead Ringer, Scouts using Bonk! as well as Demomen using the [Scottish Resistance] can be extremely useful to break enemy sticky traps at little risk to themselves.
- Another common tactic of Demomen camping this area is to stand outside of the health pack area and to shoot grenades through the enemy's vent. It is almost impossible for the enemy to dodge these grenades. This tactic can suppress the enemy as they cannot use the garage doors and using the vent route will result in Heavy damage.
- This tactic of placing sticky traps on the garage doors can be used both defensively on your own base's doors as well as the enemy's doors.
- Traversing through the vents allows Spies to pop out and back stab any enemies running down the stairs.
- In the hallway to the Intelligence, Engineers should get up onto the platform and build a strong defense there as most players will assault from that direction, due to the fact that they will not have to travel past the enemy spawn point. You can reach the platform either with a Dispenser jump, jumping and placing a Teleporter exit as well as performing a crouch jump near in one of the corners.
- Pyros should Spy check near the vents and the hallway to the Intelligence room as well as the corner outside of the respawn door closest to the Intelligence room.
- Scouts should temporarily switch to the bat when travelling through either team's vent because of the constricted nature of the vents. Players will have little room to avoid a series of melee attacks without dying. The bat can also be used for Spy checking disguised Spies in this area.
- A good Sentry Gun spot in the Intelligence room is to the left of the Intelligence, facing the wall separating the two doorways into the hall that leads to the turbine room. The Sentry Gun cannot be hit or seen with the correct placement, but it will still cover most of the room, and stop most who drop down from vents.
- Engineers will do best working in teams on this map, as there are no Sentry Gun spots that do not have some disadvantage to them. When playing Engineer on Turbine, always mind your fellow Engineers and lend them a hand if you can, especially with Sentry Gun setup. Demomen and Engineers can often work wonders together, with Engineers setting up in the Intelligence room and Demomen clearing out the vents and the hallway of any intruders.
- A good place for a teleport exit if you are active in the Intelligence room is near the vent exit that drops into the Intelligence room. This will alert you to any enemies who are coming through the vent, as most cannot resist taking down the teleporter exit. The exit can be of use to teammates, as well, as it can be used to help them clear out the vents or go through the hallway to the Intelligence room.
- If your team manages to push the other team back to their spawn or Intelligence room, Engineers can jump onto the containers in the main hall and build Sentry Guns there. One on each container is (without Übers) a nearly unbreakable defense.
- Engineers should build Dispensers and teleporter exits at the own-team-faced side of the containers to provide quick movement and fast reloading/healing.
- If you find that the enemy is abusing your vents, the following is a good defensive strategy for the Engineer. It also has the added benefit of protecting your spawn area from the turbine room entrance. First, build a Sentry Gun in the cubby hole near the top of the stairs leading from your spawn to the turbine room and facing the spawn's entrance to your vents. Then, place your Dispenser in the vents just inside the long corridor leading to the Intelligence room. It should be built just far enough in that any opponent turning the bend from the turbine room won't notice it blocking their path until they're in your Sentry Gun's range, but not too far in to allow the enemy shelter from the Sentry Gun. The Dispenser will act as an obstacle long enough for a non-Übered opponent to get killed by your Sentry Gun, and will prevent Scouts (either with or without soda) from avoiding your Sentry Gun by quickly ducking from one corridor to the next. This has the added benefit that, if your Sentry Gun gets sapped/destroyed, they still have to kill your Dispenser to use that corridor, giving your team early warning.
- One of the best tactics for the close quarters Scout is to go through your base's vents, double-jump to the middle of the enemy stair on the main room and then continue on the enemy vents. Doing so will avoid most of the medium range combat on the Turbine room.
- Engineers should place their defensive Sentry Guns in a direction that is constantly monitoring the drop out of the vent and both doors in the Intelligence room. (a good place would be to the left of the stairs, facing the small medkit and against the wall.)
- For a surprise on ambushing enemies, place a Sentry Gun on the stairs next to the "garage" door, facing towards the main room.
- Underneath the "Sniper decks" on the middle area is a surprisingly good place for Snipers to sit. On the left side, Snipers can walk back behind the door and into their spawn area if enemies get too close, and the right side (the path to the Intelligence) gives the Sniper a very good shot at the door where many players will exit their spawn area.
- It is also possible to get onto the roof of the Intelligence room as a Demoman performing a sticky/grenade jump, a Soldier who performs a rocketjump as well as a Scout using fan. This spot is useful as a Demoman to defend the Intelligence.
- Running around one of the turbines in the main room can provide some momentary cover. This tactic works best against Heavies, hopefully with that extra time, a team mate may have taken care of the enemy for you.
See also
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