Team Fortress Wiki talk:Weapon Demonstration

Needed

Bad Pipes

When they release new taunts in future, i may only do single classes taunt, or all classes taunt that isn't a group taunt like Conga. Karmacharger 6:59 PM 8/26/2016 (PDT)

OK — Wind 18:40, 4 September 2016 (PDT)

Mannrobics

Whoever does this one, it would be really cool if you could get all nine classes to do the Mouse1 dance at the same time, in sync. Dogman15 (talk) 01:09, 14 July 2016 (PDT)

It's gonna takes forever just to get 9 players to do that, no for this. Since Valve officially made a video for this taunt, i don't think it's necessary for us to do so. Karmacharger 6:57 PM 8/26/2016 (PDT)

Alright — Wind 18:40, 4 September 2016 (PDT)

Tools

Gift Wrap

Does this still need to be done? I can do it. ~Hi5TBone 4:45 PM 6/12/2015 (CST)

No one seems to have touched it, so go ahead. Obilisk 05:11, 13 June 2015 (PDT)

Upgrade to Premium Gift

I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary Karmacharger 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)

Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — Wind 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)

Strange Count Transfer Tool

 This demonstration has been reserved: Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 06:30, 12 January 2016 (PST)

With the release of the Tough Break Update, it would be a good idea to get this done ASAP. -- Dr. Scaphandre 11:17, 23 December 2015 (PST)

I'm down. Was thinking doing it once between a normal strange wep and a strange skin, and then doing the process again but in reverse. Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 06:28, 12 January 2016 (PST)

OK. — Wind 18:11, 18 January 2016 (PST)

Gun Mettle and Tough Break Festivizer

 This demonstration has been reserved: Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2016 (PST)

Do we need this? I'm totally down for doing it. Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 06:34, 12 January 2016 (PST)

Yes. — Wind 18:11, 18 January 2016 (PST)

Cosmetics

Boston Boom-Bringer

 Demonstration of how the sound effect works

Pardon me if I'm putting in the wrong place, but I noticed that Infernal Orchestrina includes the demonstration. I know that was for a pyroland item, but what if the Boston Boom-Bringer had a demonstration video where it shows the sound effect that is played when taunting? Just like the Orchestrina had (albeit the Pyroland thing). There is several sound effects, though, so all of them has to be played. ▪ - 21:32, 26 March 2015 (PDT)

Infernal Orchestrina was demonstrated because it turns pyroland vision on by itself, not because of the sound effect it adds. This item has no such dramatic change, so no need to demonstrate — Wind 15:08, 29 March 2015 (PDT)

Alright, thanks. ▪ - 15:12, 29 March 2015 (PDT)

Sucker Slug

 Show assists in Pyroland

Need to be redone

Crusader's Crossbow

 Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy spy that Uber is not build. {{Reservation|Griffin Griffin (talk) 03:20, 28 October 2016 (PDT)  Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a pyro reflect that Uber IS build.

Sun-on-a-Stick

 This demonstration has been reserved: Vp999 (talk) 11:18, 25 July 2016 (PDT)

 Take 25% less damage from fire while deployed

Righteous Bison

 Fixed a bug causing players to be hit by the same projectile multiple times, causing the damage dealt to vary wildly

 Per-shot damage has been increased to compensate, resulting in slightly more damage on average

 Slowed projectile by 30%

 Projectile damage reduced by 25% for each enemy penetrated

Such a terrible weapon now, i don't think we should redo this one first, wait until Valve buff it back to the way it should be. Again the entire community is complaining about this weapon right now. Karmacharger 6:32 PM 10/3/2016 (PDT)

OK. — Wind 23:54, 9 October 2016 (PDT)

Sydney Sleeper

 Scoped shots now extinguish teammates

 When fully charged, or when making a headshot, now applies Jarate in a radius

This weapon might ended up in the same way as Phlogistinator, this weapon has received many complains about the buff, so i highly suggest not to touch it until Valve did something about it. Because it's op right now Karmacharger 8:24 PM 8/9/2016 (PDT)

Enthusiast's Timepiece

 While invisible, Spy receives 20% less damage from all damage sources

 While invisible, Spy has reduced timer on debuffs (fire, jarate, milk, bleed)

Force-A-Nature

 Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

I'll try my hand at it. I've gotten most of the clips down. I just need to put the 2 demos together and get a screen recorder for the loadout.--Punishment Fatal (talk) 23:18, 10 October 2015 (PDT)

Edit: I have the demos, but I'm having trouble compressing them. Quicktime doesn't want to let me work in h264 and the tga's have some sort of stop at certain frames when I didn't have in them in the game. How can I use a program that can smooth out the tga's or use a different format while recording a movie to extract the video and audio without stuttering or 1,000 files flooding my TF2?

If you're talking about bringing the images together to form a clip, personally I use Virtualdub. After you srcdemo2 and use Virtualdub you can delete all the images you used, as you will have the video. Obilisk 01:21, 11 October 2015 (PDT)

Yeah, I was using Virtualdub as well. It's just when I was watching the tgas compiled together, I noticed that at certain tgas the game completely halted and froze as if my game was stuttering though in the demo itself there was no visible sign of any framerate drop. Punishment Fatal (talk) 01:26, 11 October 2015 (PDT)

I've also seemed to have encountered another problem. Everytime I try to open SrcDemo2, it just loads and stops immediately even without opening a window to let me troubleshoot the problem. Do you know how to work around this? Also, should I use OBS for recording the loadout or do you recommend some other program? Punishment Fatal (talk) 03:47, 11 October 2015 (PDT)

Throw me a friend request, I can help out. Add me. Obilisk 05:48, 11 October 2015 (PDT)

Alright, I found the problem for Virtualdub. It stuttered since it wasn't an actual player and didn't load all the frames together. However, when I exported the frames, it reduced the quality quite a bit. Is there any way I can keep the quality while converting? Punishment Fatal (talk) 13:10, 11 October 2015 (PDT)

Edit: Nevermind, only Windows Media player was showing the quality as blocky. Windows Movie Maker shows it as normal. Punishment Fatal (talk) 13:36, 11 October 2015 (PDT)

Alright, here's the rough edit for the Demonstration. I haven't added a loadout option yet or rendered it in SrcDemo2, but I want to hear your guys' critique. (Also thanks again to Obilisk for sending me the training vid music). Punishment Fatal (talk) 19:26, 12 October 2015 (PDT)

Overall It's looking pretty good so far Punishment Fatal. My only suggestions would be to perhaps not fire two shots every time you intend to shoot. From the looks of your demonstration it seems compulsory to always fire both barrels. I'd say maybe just shoot one shot when you know the other won't be shooting at anything. ( An example is at 0:40 when you kill the medic, one of your shots go to waste. Try killing him with just the amount of bullets you need to, and again straight after, you should only shoot the backboard once.) Also, the ending sound should merge with the original demonstration music, rather than cutting to no music then bringing it in. Otherwise, as I said, looking good! Obilisk 04:16, 15 October 2015 (PDT)

Here's the fixed edit. Again, it's pre SrcDemo2 and loadout since I'm still trying to get SrcDemo to work (Dokanlibrary doesn't want to work for me on Windows 8) and I'm trying to decide which program to use for the loadout screen (would OBS be the best option?).

The clips you have provided are looking very nice. Though, not sure about the blurred transition, I'd say try avoid the blur and just have a transition if possible. Personally I use Fraps to record loadout views, can't say I've experienced much with other programs though I'm sure any one of them would do the trick. Obilisk 05:10, 18 October 2015 (PDT)

What Obilisk said, plus:

• Audio and video appear desynced. Check the shot sounds vs video during the first clip at 0.5x speed.
• Make sure to reload at least once with only one shot fired to show both shells being thrown out. This can be done with the medic if you end on a single shell left, or otherwise after shooting the back board with a single shot.
• Don't twitch-jump (1:40). See current demonstration. You don't need to twitch, just need to be looking at the right angle while jumping.
• Framerate is choppy (SrcDemo2 would fix it, and if that doesn't work, plain Source Recorder still should)

— Wind 14:13, 18 October 2015 (PDT)

I must unfortunately remove my reservation. My computer does not want to co-operate well with any recording program and I no longer have the free time I once had to continue with the videos. Punishment Fatal (talk) 23:55, 4 January 2016 (PST)

This is probably the first time i said this, I don't think i can do this one, because the second clip is a nightmare to record, always missed the jump, and can't double-jump for whatever reason some times. Beside it only has the description updated Karmacharger 11:01 PM 6/14/2016 (PDT)

You might want to use my config which makes it really easy (just middle-click while aiming slightly downwards). Or if you just want the jump alias:

alias "+a_mouse3" "slot1; +jump; +duck; +attack"
alias "-a_mouse3" "-duck; -jump; -attack"
bind "mouse3" "+a_mouse3"

— Wind 18:41, 26 June 2016 (PDT)

Half-Zatoichi

 This demonstration has been reserved: AtariG. (talk) 16:58, 19 September 2016 (PDT)

 The weapon deploys and holsters slower.

 Gain 50% of base health on kill.

 Once drawn, sheathing deals 50 damage to yourself unless it kills.

Huo-Long Heater

 This demonstration has been reserved: Vp999 (talk) 11:16, 25 July 2016 (PDT)

 Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.

 Added +25% increased damage vs. burning players

 Added -10% damage

 Reduced ammo drain to -4/sec (from -6)

 Reduced pulse damage from Ring of Fire to 12 (from 15) due to increased damage vs. burning

Mad Milk

 Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire)  Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%)

 This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 5:44 PM 1/7/2016 (PDT)

The "Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%" does nothing... i'm not sure why. i've reported it to Valve Karmacharger 5:45 PM 1/7/2016 (PDT)

Minigun

 Viewmodel has been updated.

 This demonstration has been reserved: Vp999 (talk) 11:26, 25 July 2016 (PDT)

Is this here good? https://youtu.be/GUFxZuTWU1o Luigifan656 (talk) 06:31, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

I personally noticed a few things:

• Quality I think could use some improvement, try increasing your bitrate or quantizer settings when rendering the final video.
• A minor thing, but usually the mouse pointer is already pointing at the backpack icon when the video starts.
• The splitscreen scene looks weird, doesn't look like you centered and cropped the clips well enough. I'm assuming you meant to make a three-way splitscreen, try fiddling around until you can make three equally wide clips next to each other.
• The music ends too soon, the "clack" ending sound should be at the very end.

This is not an official review, but it should give you something to work with before Wind returns. Good luck - Uufje 07:52, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

I am nearly done now, but I can't seem to find a training video mp3 that is as long as my demonstration. Luigifan656 (talk) 10:10, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

You can find extended music here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/y0gjm9yekjj6zzx/Demonstration+Music+v2.rar - Uufje 13:35, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

Is this here better? https://youtu.be/94Jt9uwb1uU Luigifan656 (talk) 14:27, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

Hi Luigifan656, first clip looks good to me, though the second clip needs some work.

• Generally speaking, the hud needs to be present in all 3 splitscreens, two of yours appear to be cropped. However, with this specific splitscreen you don't even need the hud present at all, as the splitscreens are comparing the speed rather than the health or ammo.
• Please give more time for the transition.
• Start the splitscreen from a stationary potision, rather than having the heavies already running. (Basically try get the clip to be as identical as the original demonstration )
• During the splitscreen there is no sound. I'd suggest having the shooting clip's sound play as well as the far left sound's play.
• You should swap the splitscreen order, having the shooting clip on the far right and the spinning clip in the middle.
• Don't end the splitscreen clip so suddenly, give some time then unspin the miniguns. (Again, try mimic the original demonstration.)
• Also, are you running a german version of the game? When you shoot the enemies they appear to spark. Not sure if this is an issue or not, but worth noting.

Overall, good attempt at your demonstration dude, the first clip looks spot on to me, though the splitscreens do need some work. I know it seems like a mouthful, splitscreens can be a pain, but most of them are a easy fix. - This is only my opinion, so it'd be worth waiting for Wind's response. Obilisk 19:54, 30 July 2015 (PDT)

Yeah, the splitscreens don't seem to be centered. The middle clip is good, since the minigun is exactly in the middle, but the other two are still off. Try to fiddle around and make the right and left clips look like the middle one. - Uufje 00:37, 31 July 2015 (PDT)

This is better I think: https://youtu.be/qDKNgbImsZ4 oh, and I am playing on the german version of the game. I hope that isn't bad. Luigifan656 (talk) 07:37, 31 July 2015 (PDT)

Hmmm what is it? http://prntscr.com/7z90rp RADIST | T | C 07:43, 31 July 2015 (PDT)

Oh, I think Sony Vegas corrupted the file. Weird that I didn't see it when I edited it.

This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zF0H-HOHHQ&feature=youtu.be Luigifan656 (talk) 13:33, 31 July 2015 (PDT)

Still a few things you need to fix up Luigifan656,

• The splitscreen position and sizes are still a bit off. To get 3 splitscreens even, have the far left track motion as "-640", the middle clip as "0" and the far right as "640" You then want to crop each clip to the size of "640" Doing so will have all three perfectly even.
• The right clip is out of sync. It should sync perfectly with the middle clip. (Starting of the walk and ending of the walk should be perfeclty synced for the two.)
• The far left clip appears to lag/jolt at 0:48.
• There are bullet holes present in your clips all over the walls. To clear them simply type "r_cleardecals" in the console.
• You should allow the miniguns to fully spin down before ending the demonstration. Also, the fade to black for each clip should be synced.
• Also, I don't think the transitions between the clips should fade completely to black, to make them easily merge simply just place one clip over the other with a 0:15 transition. It should look like this. Obilisk 00:54, 1 August 2015 (PDT)

Feel free to wait for Wind's responce, I'm not sure what his opinion is about the minigun spin ups, as he may want them to be walking then spin and walk (Like the original minigun demonstrations are currently) Again though, it's very close to looking nice. Keep it up! Obilisk 00:54, 1 August 2015 (PDT)

Oh hi. Thanks for iterating pretty quickly on this demonstration. Here's my opinion:

• All of what Obilisk said applies (including spin and walk)
• For Minigun-like weapon demonstrations, it's customary to move a little bit forward in the spawning wooden box so that you are right up against the front wooden barrier during the first clip. This way, in this position, the minigun firing effect won't clip against the top wooden barrier. Do so before starting to record (don't move while recording).
• There is some lag (or perhaps just a jittery mouse) around 0:20-0:23

— Wind 16:50, 2 August 2015 (PDT)

Sorry that it took so long, but I hope this is better now: https://youtu.be/OyQibzGLowA Luigifan656 (talk) 15:43, 9 August 2015 (PDT)

Hey Luigifan656,

Another good attempt at the demonstration, but there's still a few things:

• In my opinion you spend just a little too long shooting the pyro. After the 4th or so 'burst' you can increase the fire rate a bit to finish him off, however this may be alright as it is.
• Your splitscreen doesn't appear to be even nor centered, each of the clips should have the crosshair in the middle.
• Your far left splitscreen appears to have a black crosshair, try keep all the colours consistant throughout the demonstration.
• The miniguns need to spin up completely in sync.
• Again, try have the heavy's start in a stationary position, then move all at once and then spin up the miniguns. (Just like the original Minigun demonstration.)

Overall, again VERY close Luigi, just a few things. Since you said you're using Sony Vegas I made you a quick video on how to get the clips perfectly placed for a 3 way splitscreen. Note this is on Sony Vegas 12.0 Watch here. Ignore the glitches at the end, it's just Sony Vegas not liking to preview it properly. Wind hopefully will be checking the talk page within the next few days, so you should be able to get his opinion soon as well. Hang tight. Obilisk 05:35, 10 August 2015 (PDT)

I don't have anything to add to what Obilisk said except that no need to worry about #1 (shooting the pyro too long). Nice Vegas tutorial :3 — Wind 15:56, 16 August 2015 (PDT)

My first weapon demonstration video Watch here - Ratatoullite 21:29, 12 May 2016 (GMT -3)

"This video has been removed by the user." :( Karmacharger 1:44 AM 5/21/2016 (PDT)

Power Up Canteen

 Doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does Toomai Glittershine 10:04, 26 June 2014 (PDT)

Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol

 Increased health recovered on hit from +3 to +5

 This demonstration has been reserved: YXUnknown (talk) 20:57, 21 September 2016 (PDT)

Robo-Sandvich

 Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit

As far as I know since I still have the Robo-Sandvich, Valve didn't update the description to include the note about its attributes like Sandvich. No need to be redone (for now). Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 16:33, 10 July 2015 (PDT)

Sandvich

 Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit

Spy-cicle

 No longer displays Fire immunity shield when fire immunity is triggered Hey im new to this but is it ok if I will give it a try? It might take a while but my first won't be my best :D Sugarmuff1n (talk) 19:40, 18 November 2016 (PST)

Go for it. If this is your first time doing TF2 videos you might want to read Source Recorder and perhaps do only one clip of the demonstration first just as a video quality check. Good luck~ — Wind 12:20, 20 November 2016 (PST)

Short Circuit

 Not up to date with the secondary fire change, damage doesn't look correct either  This demonstration has been reserved: Drdynamo (talk) 15:34, 11 December 2016 (PST)

Questions and Proposals

Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the Need to be Redone section above and it will be dealt with.

So it appears that the weapon switch speed for every class has increased from 0.67 to 0.5 seconds. Are we going to have to redo all the demonstrations where weapon switching is present? Obilisk 23:00, 25 December 2015 (PST)

No, that's probably too much. — Wind 14:29, 27 December 2015 (PST)

Is there any particular reason we don't allow Collector's quality items to be used in demonstrations? Hail Fellow Well Met (talk) 23:38, 11 January 2016 (PST)

My assumption would be that Collector's quality is rather rare, and as such unrecognizable for most players, since Unique and Vintage have been around for ages all players by now should be able to recognize those. Although as far as I know we haven't talked about including Collector's quality in the suitable list for the Loadout screen, maybe now, being a year and a bit after the Collector's quality has been added, Wind may allow it. Let's see what he says. In my opinion the colour hurts my eyes haha. Obilisk 05:09, 12 January 2016 (PST)

It's definitely not the quality most people watching the video would have the item in. And if they do, then they would already know there's no difference between Collector and non-Collector. The reverse is not as likely.

I also don't think disallowing Collector's quality items prevents people from contributing to these videos. Surely if you manage to get a Collector's item you can also manage to get a non-Collector version of it.

More generally, the allowed qualities the "common" ones such that they are recognizable by most people and don't put up a barrier for contribution. It also prevents the temptation people may have to show off their rare item when they have a non-rare version of it. And having a small restricted set keeps videos consistent. — Wind 18:11, 18 January 2016 (PST)

I'm thinking of doing one of the weapons here, but my graphics card is confused as to whether or not it can record video. Could I record the demos and upload the demos for recording? weatherman115 08:11, 2 February 2016 (PST)

That's not the hard part of the work (the demo rendering/cutting/adding backpack view/music mixing/transitions/muxing/uploading to youtube/etc process is significant) and the review process would be pretty awkward if the responsibility is shared between two people, so I don't think that kind of system would work very well. — Wind 14:46, 6 February 2016 (PST)

I knew there was going to be a problem. I'll see if I can get my card to record video, although I'm afraid that it will break the card. But frankly, it's worked before, so it shouldn't be a problem.

...I would put my graphic card name here, but I'm away from my computer and I can't check from anywhere other than there. I do remember that it's an AMD. weatherman115 07:36, 8 February 2016 (PST)

Found it. It's a Radeon HD 5900 Series. weatherman115 15:09, 8 February 2016 (PST)

Can you find the precise number? 5900 is a wide series. I'm pretty sure they're all good enough to use Source Recorder at 7250p or higher though so I don't think you should have problem rendering as long as you have the correct drivers. — Wind 15:36, 27 February 2016 (PST)

I was actually thinking of using OBS, but that sounds good. Where can I download it?

Also, can I have a non-7zip file of the demonstration map? I don't want to download any more software, and I'm pretty sure Windows 10 can't unzip .7z files. weatherman115 06:28, 2 March 2016 (PST)

Here's the extracted map file: http://weaponref.wiki.tf/tr_target_weaponref_hdr.bsp — Wind 18:08, 13 March 2016 (PDT)

Been way too long since I last checked my account, completely forgot about this. I'm on mobile right now, plus I've got life stuff to do, so I'll get to it as soon as I can. Thanks! weatherman115 13:17, 17 March 2016 (PDT)

For the demonstration config, how do I reset my settings after recording? I'm a very competitive player, so being able to restore my settings would be great. weatherman115 14:45, 17 March 2016 (PDT)

The Source engine configuration file language is very limited. It doesn't have any kind of state-keeping, so there is no way for a config file to be able to undo itself. The only way to have an easy "undo" is rather to have a config file that sets the options you want. Then you can alternate between the two config files in order to switch between one or the other. There's no way for the demonstration-specific config file to figure out what your previous configuration was, so it can't provide a way to undo itself either. Sorry :( — Wind 18:39, 20 March 2016 (PDT)

Frontier Justice

 This demonstration has been reserved: Perkzitos (talk) 13:10, 23 September 2016 (PDT)

Click here to acess the Video — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Perkzitos (talk) • (contribs)

Hi Perkzitos and thanks for creating this demonstration. Here's what I've found:

• Video quality is poor. Here's a screenshot from the beginning of the video (downloaded at its highest 720p quality); check the item description text. Now compare it to the same screenshot from the current version of the demonstration. As you can see, there is a big picture quality regression which makes the text harder to read. You should increase the video bitrate and, if possible, resolution.
• Poor graphics quality: your video has jaggy edges which don't appear in the current demonstration. This is usually due to low or no antialiasing (for jaggy edges) and low or no anisotropic filtering (for jaggy/checkerboardy textures such as that orange-black stripe pattern on the floor or the metallic grid behind the cardboard soldier in the back).
• Low model quality: Compare the sentry blueprint: your version vs current version
• Audio is mono. It should be stereo.
• Low audio quality. You can feel that by just listening to the gunshots or the background music; they sound more "radio-y" than the current demonstration does. If you compare spectrograms, your audio encoding settings cuts out audio frequencies above 11.5 kHz, while the current demonstration does not.
• Lack of video transitions. Please add 0.5-second fades between clips, otherwise it looks like you're teleporting between clips.
• Please show that other weapons don't get crits. The current demonstration shows this by switching to other weapons before using up the crits on the Heavy.
• Audio glitch near the end of the video at about 1:42, the audio cuts out.

To address the audio issues, it's probably just a matter of editing your audio encoding settings to higher quality. For the video issues, see if your computer can handle running the game on higher-quality graphics settings (with antialias, anisotropic filtering, etc.). If it can't, you will probably need to use Source Recorder in order to render demos at higher quality.

Hope this helps and good luck~ I can help with some of the above if you need. — Wind 18:46, 24 September 2016 (PDT)

Hey Wind! I maked a new video, please check!
Click here - Perkzitos (talk) 18:55, 30 September 2016 (PDT)

Thanks for the new video. It is better, but still not perfect:

• The video is encoded with interlacing. Look at the little artifacts that show up whenever something is moving fast on-screen, like firing the weapon or moving the camera This should be a matter of switching it to "deinterlaced" in the video rendering settings. Once you have done that, also make sure to **double the bitrate** in order to conserve the same level of quality (deinterlaced video takes up 2x more space to maintain the same level of quality).
• Model quality has not improved; again compare the sentry "ghost" blueprint model in your video compared to the existing video. This can be fixed in the TF2 graphics settings (model quality).
• There are still a few isotropic filtering artifacts on the orange-black stripes on the map floor, but I am not sure if those are from still-too-low anisotropic filtering or from low bitrate. Try increasing both anisotropic filtering and video bitrate.

Video contents are otherwise all good. Keep it up~ — Wind 15:44, 2 October 2016 (PDT)

New Map and Musics For Demonstration

Glad you like the tr_karma map, it has everything, a swimming pool, a pit hole, trees, and birds. I assume you've played the map to see how it looks like. For new musics, i mixed the projector music with the official TF2 soundtrack, two examples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYIblqJNSDM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdC7L2o_1Y0 I think we definitely should use them too, the current ones are getting old and boring. If you like, i'll upload them here. Also for the config and bots spawning, do you still want the starting bots to be Pyro, Soldier, Medic, and Spy? in my videos, the bots are Demoman, Heavy, Sniper, and Scout. if you want the same setup for the bots, i'll change them, then upload the config file here. Oh yeah last thing, a halloween themed version for the tr_karma will be released soon, since Scream Fortress will be here soon, if there's any new weapons released, can i use that halloween tr_karma to demonstrate? Karmacharger 12:11 AM 10/5/2016 (PDT)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lwfowqne4qsld0x/Tr_karma%20and%20night%20%28with%20config%29.rar?dl=0 tr_karma and tr_karma_night, also included config for bots, new bots setup and the old one. Karmacharger 4:02 PM 10/8/2016 (PDT)

Thanks for the maps. I'm getting some skybox issues with the night version.

Yes, the bots should be the same and spaced the same way such that videos using either maps stay comparable in terms of distance falloff and time-to-kill-each-bot.

For halloween: Yes, as long as it also has a halloween background music as well to complement it. I think this would mark a nice point to transition to the regular tr_karma for demos after that point too (meaning that we keep doing tr_target_weaponref_hdr demos until halloween, then make tr_karma_halloween demos, then make tr_karma demos). — Wind 23:54, 9 October 2016 (PDT)