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Huo-Long Heater
Reserved by Akuago220
- If akuago gave OJP permission to remove the reservation, then it should've been noted somewhere. Somehow, I doubt that he did. — Armisael (T | C) 03:50, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
- I didn't even see that I did that. Thank you for putting that back I didn't even notice. OrangeJuicePanda 05:43, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
Moving pass the fact someone was tampering with my reservation, I chose to do a beta demonstration of this weapon. I know a few more scenes might be needed so I want to make sure that all bases will be covered in my foreseen redo of this weapon so that even those like Wind and Armisael approve, users like Karma or Mr. Vinderack won't say immediately or long after its approval a single or multiple little suggestions that will cause a revoked approval. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 10:24, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
- I think you should show how fast about consume ammo with normal minigun.
Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 12:01, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
- That I can manage. I'm also working on the Spy portion, but despite my efforts, I can't get him to disguise as a class without being a Spy myself. If anyone knows how this process is done, please let me know so I can progress with the demonstration. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 23:03, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
- Okay, here's my second take on the Huo Long Heatmaker. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 12:23, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
- It doesn't show that you can light arrows with it (I assuming that you can' if this isn't possible, ignore me, of course). — Armisael (T | C) 15:00, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
- I'll check it out, if so, I'll need a server and a partner with a Huntsman to do this portion with me. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 18:50, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
- Just tested it out in a Turbine server, the Huntsman can NOT be ignited by the Huo Long Heatmaker. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 10:35, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- It doesn't show that you can light arrows with it (I assuming that you can' if this isn't possible, ignore me, of course). — Armisael (T | C) 15:00, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
- Okay, here's my second take on the Huo Long Heatmaker. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 12:23, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
- That I can manage. I'm also working on the Spy portion, but despite my efforts, I can't get him to disguise as a class without being a Spy myself. If anyone knows how this process is done, please let me know so I can progress with the demonstration. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 23:03, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
- May want to throw in a clip that shows how long you can stand from 200 ammo to running out of ammo. It would be kind of long but I think it would give a better idea of how much ammo it consumes when deployed. Maybe put that at the end so that it's not too boring. If you do, put clips in order so that the 3 last clips are: spy cloak/disguise detection clip, split-screen ammo consumption comparison with the minigun, and non-split-screen clip showing how long it takes to drai nout all the ammo by just standing. That way, the two last clips are related (ammo consumption) rather than having an unrelated clip in the middle (spy). That's all~ — Wind 17:00, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- Not a problem. Here's the revised version with that extra clip in it. Since there was apparently nothing else about it that needing fixing, it's safe to say now, download it here if good. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 08:02, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
- Scratch that, here's the revised version with the updated backpack view. Download it here. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 19:57, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
- I think that enemy players can jump over the ring of fire and remain flame-free. It shows that the ring of fire is more like a hedge rather than an impenetrable wall. Should this be demonstrated?
22:11, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
- I don't know; given that the class stays in the air for no less than a second or two, in the end, they'll still get burned. It just seems like a waste of time showing something that, in the long run, is not so significant (or not as significant as the other aspects shown in the demonstration). --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 12:34, 12 August 2012
- The current video is all good, please upload~ — Wind 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
- I don't know; given that the class stays in the air for no less than a second or two, in the end, they'll still get burned. It just seems like a waste of time showing something that, in the long run, is not so significant (or not as significant as the other aspects shown in the demonstration). --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 12:34, 12 August 2012
- I think that enemy players can jump over the ring of fire and remain flame-free. It shows that the ring of fire is more like a hedge rather than an impenetrable wall. Should this be demonstrated?
- Scratch that, here's the revised version with the updated backpack view. Download it here. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 19:57, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
- Not a problem. Here's the revised version with that extra clip in it. Since there was apparently nothing else about it that needing fixing, it's safe to say now, download it here if good. --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 08:02, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
- Actually, given that a spy can jump over the ring of fire to get a backstab without ever being lit, that may be worth demonstrating. Just a thought; if not, whatever. — Armisael (T | C) 12:57, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
- I just tried that with the Soldier. After 5 tries, the Soldier still got burned no matter how high he jumped. If he can't bypass the ring of fire, then most classes probably can't either. If that's the case, then the whole "bypassing the ring of fire" scene shouldn't be added if all classes can't do it (before anyone possibly argues with something like a Sapper being class-specific aversion with the Engineer, that's because the sapper is meant to go against one specific class whereas fire affects all classes). --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 10:49, 14 August 2012 (PDT)
- Spies can jump farther than soldiers because they run faster (and thus cover more horizontal distance in the same vertical distance). I would expect that every class except soldiers and heavies could pull that off. At any rate, I just thought that particular interaction might be worth noting, given the anti-spy nature of the gun. You are, as always, free to ignore me. — Armisael (T | C) 10:55, 14 August 2012 (PDT)
- That's strategy territory, not demonstration territory, so not demonstrated — Wind 14:34, 14 August 2012 (PDT)
- Spies can jump farther than soldiers because they run faster (and thus cover more horizontal distance in the same vertical distance). I would expect that every class except soldiers and heavies could pull that off. At any rate, I just thought that particular interaction might be worth noting, given the anti-spy nature of the gun. You are, as always, free to ignore me. — Armisael (T | C) 10:55, 14 August 2012 (PDT)
- I just tried that with the Soldier. After 5 tries, the Soldier still got burned no matter how high he jumped. If he can't bypass the ring of fire, then most classes probably can't either. If that's the case, then the whole "bypassing the ring of fire" scene shouldn't be added if all classes can't do it (before anyone possibly argues with something like a Sapper being class-specific aversion with the Engineer, that's because the sapper is meant to go against one specific class whereas fire affects all classes). --Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner 10:49, 14 August 2012 (PDT)
I had a go at trying to make a video for the Huo-Long Heater (I am a new user and did not find out that someone else had reserved it and I am new to all of this) I would just like some feed back on my video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNtGltBTaHs. Thanks for reading. Flairton 05:05, 13 August 2012 (PDT)(PDT)
- This demo was reserved by Akuago220. And your video has many mistake.
- Have 2 black bars on the side of the video.
- No background music.
- Custom crosschair.
- Didn't show afterburn kill, ring of fire effect's area, spy check (disguise and cloak), consume ammo rate, etc.
- Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 22:24, 12 August 2012 (PDT)
- It's also not using good enough graphics settings (the lighting in the map looks very dark). The pause menu is also visible at the beginning. Still, the main clip of the demonstration follows the pattern correctly — Wind 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
Thanks for the feedback. That was my first try at a video. :)
Neon Annihilator
Reserved by Armisael
- http://youtu.be/TLsOu8_9-cY — Armisael (T | C) 15:11, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
- You should probably give some indication into how long the player is counted as wet after exiting water. - Limeaide 17:30, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
- Jarare not shown, a reason for that? δ³Σx² 17:32, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
- Because it functions identically to milk, and it has minicrits to confuse the matter. The length of time after exiting water is a good point, though. — Armisael (T | C) 17:32, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/3ZQCYQ2fQmk — Armisael (T | C) 06:30, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
- In accordance with the Melee Makeover, you should probably demonstrate a crit-boosted critical hit on the medic... unless this weapon doesn't crit-boost? Darkid (
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) 11:44, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
- In accordance with the Melee Makeover, you should probably demonstrate a crit-boosted critical hit on the medic... unless this weapon doesn't crit-boost? Darkid (
- http://youtu.be/3ZQCYQ2fQmk — Armisael (T | C) 06:30, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
- Because it functions identically to milk, and it has minicrits to confuse the matter. The length of time after exiting water is a good point, though. — Armisael (T | C) 17:32, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
- Jarare not shown, a reason for that? δ³Σx² 17:32, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
- You should probably give some indication into how long the player is counted as wet after exiting water. - Limeaide 17:30, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
- Here goes~
- Maybe the water-duration-demonstration-clip should be a split-screen with the two snipers leaving the water at the same time, but hit at a different time. Or perhaps they would leave the water at different times and hit at the same time, kind of like the 3 heavies in the medigun demo that showd the different heal rates
- Add a little more waiting time at the beginning of the last clip
- Try not to get a voice line like "ah, piss" since it's not piss (I hope). Or you may want to use something else than a sniper for a change (up to you)
— Wind 17:00, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- Psyke says this is getting a big cosmetic update tomorrow to change the texture slightly and make it smash on crit kill. Might be worth waiting a day to work on it. Balladofwindfishes 17:51, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/1MilrRNAj4c Well, that's a little different now. — Armisael (T | C) 20:13, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/u9o8qL9KVJ0 Fixed a kill notice. — Armisael (T | C) 05:40, 11 August 2012 (PDT)
You didn't show that a crit can occur while the enemy is coated with the jarate. How could you forget about that? --Hawk18727 00:56, 15 August 2012 (PDT)
Baby Face's Blaster
Reserved by Armisael
The 40% more accurate attribute isn't demonstrated. --Org 17:17, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
- Yes, but it's sort of hard to demonstrate. Not to be redone unless someone can think of a way to easily demonstrate it~ — Wind 18:52, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
- Scouts shooting at an enemy that's at the very edge of the bullet cone for the BFB, so the BFB misses but the scattergun hits. — Armisael (T | C) 18:53, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
- But how do you really show that the enemies are in the exact same position and everything in both clips? TO a viewer I think it would simply look as if you just didn't aim properly — Wind 18:57, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/YVhbukKNvaQ Obviously, console precision is required for a shot like this, but I think it can be done. — Armisael (T | C) 19:13, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
- This is a great way to show it, indeed~ — Wind 20:42, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
- May i take this one?
Karmacharger 12:06 , 7/18/2012 (PDT)
- Yes, if of course you use console precision to do this because there's probably no way you can do this without the console this time — Wind 12:12, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
- May i take this one?
- Another way to demonstrate it may be firing into a wall and comparing the bullet holes. --Org 06:31, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
- No, that's not really as clear — Wind 12:12, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
- hmm.. wind i am sorry , i think i leave it for other person. Karmacharger 7:29 , 7/20/2012 (PDT)
- This is a great way to show it, indeed~ — Wind 20:42, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/YVhbukKNvaQ Obviously, console precision is required for a shot like this, but I think it can be done. — Armisael (T | C) 19:13, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
- But how do you really show that the enemies are in the exact same position and everything in both clips? TO a viewer I think it would simply look as if you just didn't aim properly — Wind 18:57, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
- Scouts shooting at an enemy that's at the very edge of the bullet cone for the BFB, so the BFB misses but the scattergun hits. — Armisael (T | C) 18:53, 17 July 2012 (PDT)
http://youtu.be/WRjlm44NKEE — Armisael (T | C) 11:24, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
- Can you do multiple shots? I know bullet spread is off but the viewer doesn't necessarily realize that. If you shoot multiple times then it becomes pretty clear that there's no coincidence or randomness here — Wind 23:07, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/hpgzjBTIa1A — Armisael (T | C) 07:35, 22 July 2012 (PDT)
It also doesn't show that taunt kills don't fill up the Boost bar. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Boynedmaster (talk) • (contribs)
- Not really necessary — Wind 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/o8PSCnigSjw — Armisael (T | C) 17:36, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
While the video shows that the boost is reset when jumping, it doesn't demonstrate that the momentum is reset during the jump as well. TheChrisD Rants•Edits 10:15, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
- Fair point. It's also quite easy to demonstrate this: Instead of stopping before jumping, keep running. Should also do the same jump at the beginning of the clip when there is no boost, to show where the jump is going to happen in the next runs. Mixing is good~ — Wind 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/wgKTjvpFdgo — Armisael (T | C) 18:57, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/G7fbqHvMaWA An actual functional link. — Armisael (T | C) 07:55, 11 August 2012 (PDT)
- Is good, please upload~ — Wind 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/G7fbqHvMaWA An actual functional link. — Armisael (T | C) 07:55, 11 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/wgKTjvpFdgo — Armisael (T | C) 18:57, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
Crusader's Crossbow
The current Crusader's Crossbow video doesn't properly demonstrate how a larger distance affects damage when the Pyro airblasts it. The third airblast had the medic at ~30 health, so I think it would be best if the player were at full health whenever the Pyro airblasts the arrow back at the medic. I don't know if this is enough to warrant a re-do, but it's still something to consider. CHINESE TIGER 09:40, 10 August 2012 (PDT)
- To include in next redo perhaps, but by itself not really necessary — Wind 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
Escape Plan
Reserved by KarmaCharger
- Where's the CRITS? Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 05:05, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
- Okey , i will redo it. Karmacharger 01:54 , 7/13/2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/1jD4V_kJgRs Karmacharger 5:03 , 7/18/2012 (PDT)
- Go slower please~ At leasve leave enough time for everyone to die, don't move right on to the next target while they're still screaming >: Also, slight cut in the music at the end of the video — Wind 12:12, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/1jD4V_kJgRs
- Okey , i will redo it.
- Did we really need to show the speed comparison with 1-health Soldier and Scout? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Boynedmaster (talk) • (contribs)
- http://youtu.be/_RioflLC_cg Karmacharger 5:34 , 7/22/2012 (PDT)
- Very bad music mixing at 0:31 - 0:34 and at 1:01 - 1:05 and at 1:30 - 1:34 :( Is all~ — Wind 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
- Changed music , hope it's good now Karmacharger 6:53 , 7/27/2012 (PDT)
- Still a very audible click at 1:31 >: — Wind 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/QfkK153b9bk Karmacharger 1:46 , 8/2/2012 (PDT)
- Still kinda rough but it's ok. Please upload this version~ — Wind 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://www.mediafire.com/?homaz1ci4j5hhbb Karmacharger 8:51 , 8/9/2012 (PDT)
- http://www.mediafire.com/?homaz1ci4j5hhbb
- Still kinda rough but it's ok. Please upload this version~ — Wind 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/QfkK153b9bk
- Still a very audible click at 1:31 >: — Wind 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
- Changed music , hope it's good now
- Very bad music mixing at 0:31 - 0:34 and at 1:01 - 1:05 and at 1:30 - 1:34 :( Is all~ — Wind 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/_RioflLC_cg
Grenade Launcher
I don't know if these are valid reason but in the video, it shows that the sticky launcher is primary and on top and the grenade launcher is in the middle. Shouldn't it look like this http://steamcommunity.com/id/Massacrejr/screenshot/938124819565496958?tab=public? Also in the comment section someone did point out that he killed a spy, I thought that the spy was only meant for taunt kills. I don't know if these are huge reason to re-do it, but I was just pointing it out. 
MassacreJr 19:58, 28 July 2012 (PDT)
- Nah. It's an old demo but not really big reasons to redo it. The Spy killing is pretty funny though. I guess it effectively demonstrates splash damage — Wind 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
Lollichop
Taunt sound fx that was patched in on August_3,_2012_Patch --Org 06:17, 12 August 2012 (PDT)
- That patch was actually a fix for a problem that was introduced after the current video was recorded. No need to redo. — Armisael (T | C) 10:58, 12 August 2012 (PDT)
- Oh, nevermind then --Org 15:11, 12 August 2012 (PDT)
Original
On the project page, it says to use the unique or vintage quality for the weapon, in the current demonstration for The Original, it is in the genuine quality. Should we redo it? If so, I'll do it Ben10508 21:37, 29 July 2012 (PDT)
- Nope. Genuine is also allow I believe.
MassacreJr 21:57, 29 July 2012 (PDT)
Teleporter
Reserved by Armisael
New distinct building animation; sappers cannot be placed on a teleporter while it is building; teleporters cannot be wrenched while they are going through the building animation; teleporter exit now always faces entrance. 02:41, 3 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/uBJimAisPMw What'd I screw up? — Armisael (T | C) 21:51, 4 August 2012 (PDT)
- At 0:08: "Hit '< not bound >' to Cancel." Very minor issue. I loved that you turned around for the telefrag bit so that we can't see you teleport the bots. Darkid (|) 11:49, 5 August 2012 (PDT)
- At 0:08: "Hit '< not bound >' to Cancel." Very minor issue. I loved that you turned around for the telefrag bit so that we can't see you teleport the bots. Darkid (
- Could you:
- Build the teleports on terrain where the little metal things on the floor don't clip with the teleport blueprint
- Spawn the RED sniper bot not on the teleporter (same position as the BLU one before) and hame him walk and wait instead of just being there randomly
- May as well use another class than a Sniper, for the only purpose of looking different than the BLU Sniper just before (that way it doesn't look liek the Sniper changed teams or something)
- Wait-and-stare a little before picking things up (2:25)
- Not put the Soldier there (it looks as if the medic is healing the heavy, and SUDDENLY: Soldier); put it next to the heavy or something (but not on the opposite side of the view, so that the heal beam doesn't go behind the heavy), making sure that both the soldier and the medic and the heavy are all visible at the same time (not easy but try it)
- For funsies, may want to have the spy taunt after telefragging if you want to (up to you)
— Wind 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/2J95ldEAKP4 — Armisael (T | C) 18:58, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
- Is good, please upload~ — Wind 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/2J95ldEAKP4 — Armisael (T | C) 18:58, 9 August 2012 (PDT)
Wrangler
The hand exhaust animation after firing for too long is not shown. I think it needs to be redone because of this. Xeoxer 08:30, 27 July 2012 (PDT)
- My suggestion is let another guy reserved because this one is hard in Sentry Jump and Split-Screen carnage. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 22:21, 31 July 2012 (PDT)
Yeah... I'll let someone else do this one. BTW: when is Wind gonna be back? Ben10508 06:11, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
- i did the current demonstration , i would like to redo this myself again. But i still have to wait for wind enjoyed his vacation. Karmacharger 9:17 , 8/1/2012 (PDT)
- Not really worth redoing over just a cosmetic animation that doesn't affect gameplay — Wind 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
- Melee makeover also just shows different swing animations that don't affect gameplay. Xeoxer 00:47, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
- Nope, because it doesn't necessary (Purely Cosmetics) but melee makeover is affect in gameplay (Different swing animation to tell that attack is Critical hit). Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 02:16, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
- Nope, because it doesn't necessary (Purely Cosmetics) but melee makeover is affect in gameplay (Different swing animation to tell that attack is Critical hit).
- Melee makeover also just shows different swing animations that don't affect gameplay. Xeoxer 00:47, 7 August 2012 (PDT)
Homewrecker
No special changes. — Wind 20:11, 10 July 2012 (PDT)
- Reserved by Mr. Vinderack
Done. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZS-TCb8xXQ Sorry if it's a bit fast. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 23:57, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
- Try not to be so twitchy with the camera in the first clip; long and slow and (more importantly) constant-speed camera movements are better than twitchy camera swings followed by another one to correct for the twitchiness error of the former. Also put the Spy in better view in the sapper clip. Is all~ (Also you don't have to go back to the middle of the map to taunt) — Wind 22:24, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
- Alright, I'll get these done. And yeah, I noticed the first clip was not very polished. Sorry. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 22:30, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
- Regarding crosshair size and type, I chose the exact same settigs for the default crosshair as listed on a website that is apparently now offline (just tried to visit it again for the link), but I guess those were incorrect (come to think of it, my crosshair never changed when switching weapons). Can someone kindly present them here? I want the Homewreccker demonstration to use this improvement. Thanks. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 07:52, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
- Alright, I'll get these done. And yeah, I noticed the first clip was not very polished. Sorry. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 22:30, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
I'll have this done today or early tomorrow. Sorry for the long wait. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 09:06, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
- This should do it. I realize I went back to the middle to taunt, but that was to be consistent with Akuago's...cosnistency. Anyway, hope it's good. (Used SrcDemo2). Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 20:07, 22 July 2012 (PDT)
- Please center the dispenser better. In the clip on the right during the first split-screen, it is clearly not centered. You can position them exactly by using getpos/setpos/bot_teleport. That's the only thing I see~ — Wind 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
- Really? I used all of those... Odd, but I guess I'll redo it. It's strange, because I used setpos/setang for myself. I guess the engineer didn't teleport to the exact same place. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 14:52, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
Damn, super busy again. I'll have these done as soon as I can. Sorry. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 17:49, 30 July 2012 (PDT)
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNRJGjJa3yo Given that this video hasn't been progressing especially quickly. — Armisael (T | C) 18:57, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- It's fine, I was doing fine on it and then suddenly schedule hell arose. I haven't even really had time to use the computer lately. Hopefully, sometime in the near future my schedule will allow an opening to continue weapon demonstrations, but for now consider me on hiatus. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 19:56, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- Is good, please upload~ — Wind 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
Sharpened Volcano Fragment
No special changes. — Wind 20:11, 10 July
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWrCYvtuffk I already got it Ben10508 20:44, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
- ...This is awkward. I mean no offense by this, but you're kind of...supposed to respect reservations. If you wanted the weapon that badly, you should have asked Mellotaku first. As for the video, it's a good layout and demonstration, but the quality is really choppy. Like I said, Source Recorder and SrcDemo2 are a must for these weapon demonstrations. Fraps just doesn't cut it most of the time. That is all. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 20:58, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
- No, they are certainly preferred (because they tend to produce better results) but they are not requirements for any demonstration (except the Saxxy demonstration) and are sometimes necessary. I'm sure that's what you meant to say, but you said it in a way that made it look absolute, and that there was no question about it. — Wind 22:24, 13 July 2012 (PDT)
Ahh, sorry. I already had it done, why not, know know? *chuckles faintly* I sent Mellotaku an apology message on his talk page. Also, I don't really see what's wrong with the quality, I think it's fine Ben10508 21:15, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
- Firstly and most importantly, thank you for understanding the reservation system. I am glad to not have to start an argument. As for the quality, watch a recent weapon demonstration (Scout and Soldier melee makeovers) to see what I mean. Your quality is definitely not bad, but I don't think it's 30 or more frames per second. I should probably also make it clear that by quality I mainly meant framerate. xD. Anyway, trust me, you will not regret using Source Recorder and SrcDemo2. I will definitely help as much as it takes, because those tools produce magical results (and by the way, Wind was the one who made SrcDemo2 :P). If you have any more questions, don't be afraid to ask. I'm friendly, and so is everyone else (hopefully). Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 21:50, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
Thanks for your understanding. I'll take your word for using the other recording softwares. Didn't know Wind made SrcDemo2 :0. For now can we use this video? For my later one's, I'll use Source Recorder next time. Ben10508 21:58, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
- You'll have to ask Wind. I try to help around a lot, but I'm not actually in charge of the project (I'm flattered you thought I was, though. Thanks! :) ). Also, I bet he's fine with it, but you might want to get Mellotaku's approval too, just in case. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 22:15, 11 July 2012 (PDT)
Ha, I already knew that Wind was like, God here xD. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ben10508 (talk) • (contribs)
- So you know Ben, the reservation system exists to help minor contributors like you. If no one respected reservations and multiple people submitted videos for the same weapon, the experienced, major contributors would make higher quality demos much faster than the new contributors, and the new people would never get a video in. Ignoring other peoples' reservations is a good way to get other people to ignore yours. — Armisael (T | C) 07:47, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
- Indeed. Just so we're on the same page, don't take any of this harshly. Just think of it as a first-time experience, and keep it in mind if the situation ever comes up again. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 07:49, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
Well yeah this is my first time making this mistake. I'll try not to the this again. I'm still waiting for Mellotaku to reply to my apology. Thanks Ben10508 08:03, 12 July 2012 (PDT)
- Framerate is indeed a little choppy but acceptable, but there's also:
- First clip ends too soon (it's supposed to end after the camera finished zooming in)
- At 0:48, you're a bit far from the heavy, to the extent that if the viewer has sound off he would think you just missed the Heavy. Also, for such clips, it is usually best to show the Spy disguising during the clip, not starting the clip while the Spy is already disguised, much like you did for the spy cloaking in the next clip (starting with the cloak already on would be awkward). Additionally, you started in a position where the weapon viewmodel completely covered up the Heavy on the left. This is bad because the first few seconds o pause at the beginning of a clip are there to help the viewer see where he is and what's where and what is happening, so having only half of the elements of the scene visible hinders this.
- Since the Medic dies in one hit (how unfortunate) with crits, I guess you need another enemy with higher HP to show the afterburn on crit. Although I guess the fire on Medic's corpse partially demonstrates that... — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Wind (talk) • (contribs)
http://youtu.be/mpaynGfsFSM — Armisael (T | C) 13:37, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
...This is awkward. I mean no offense by this, but you're kind of...supposed to respect reservations.- Does that ring any bells? Ben10508 18:46, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
- There's a difference between submitting a video to a weapon that someone else reserved 24 hours prior and one that the previous person has not posted to in a week, especially when the previous person has been active elsewhere on the page. A reservation isn't a license to sit on a weapon and do nothing for extended periods of time. — Armisael (T | C) 19:02, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
I was working on it Ben10508 19:15, 18 July 2012 (PDT)
- Armisael's video is good, but will wait a few days for Ben10508 — Wind 12:12, 19 July 2012 (PDT)
Quick question, I know how to get a Spy to disguise as someone, but I have to be a Spy to do it, as said on the project page. How do you make the Spy disguise like in Armisael's video? Ben10508 17:06, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
- You'll probably need another person to come and help you out. If you need it, I'll help. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 17:52, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
- Nope, you just need to force bot to change to the disguise kit and make that bot disguise to someone. Hinaomi (talk) - (contributions) 18:00, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
- You could, but for the sake of easiness, I'll just help him out. Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 18:30, 20 July 2012 (PDT)
- Nope, you just need to force bot to change to the disguise kit and make that bot disguise to someone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNyle4coG-U I added a Sniper to kinda replace the Medic. BTW, thanks Mr. Vinderack for helping me out Ben10508 15:42, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
- You mean a heavy. Can you approach that heavy in such a way that the axe viewmodel is not in the middle of the minigun model when you stand close? Attack from slightly-sideways to avoid this. Thanks~ — Wind 23:07, 21 July 2012 (PDT)
Alright, but should I keep the Sniper? Ben10508 05:53, 22 July 2012 (PDT)
- No, not really. He doesn't serve much purpose — Wind 14:21, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArsHxZj8oH8 Ben10508 18:44, 26 July 2012 (PDT)
- Is good, please upload~ — Wind 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
http://www.mediafire.com/?v7nx52awp52b36m Ben10508 18:14, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
- It still has the blurry borders that the SMG demo does.
- — Armisael (T | C) 18:30, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
Wind already said it is good :3 Ben10508 18:35, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
- Well, that doesn't necessarily mean you should disregard Armisael's input... Mr. Vinderack, not as sober as you...thin..yah... 18:36, 6 August 2012 (PDT)
- It does indeed have the borders, but they're not really so critically bad that the video should be rejected for it. Still, you should really look into why they are there and try to fix it for future demos — Wind 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
So, are you still gonna upload? Ben10508 21:48, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- This one yes, but please fix them in your future demonstrations — Wind 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
Alien Swarm Parasite
Reserved by KarmaCharger
- Don't mind me if i take this one. Karmacharger 4:32 , 7/18/2012 (PDT)
- Render with srcdemo2 54 .dem file Karmacharger 1:02 , 7/31/2012 (PDT)
- Man that must have been fun to record :3 But... It's not really worth showing every single thing for every single weapon slot. While it's consistent with the way other all-class demos have been done so far and I appreciate the effort to keep that up, onthis it feels more like padding; it doesn't really add any new facts for the viewer. The same could be argued for other all-class demos, but the time taken in those videos was not really that long so it didn't really matter. Here it does matter, so I think you can trim it.
- tl;dr: Keep all the Scout clips as they are, but remove the secondary slot and melee slot clips of all other classes. Do keep the Sentry and sapper clips, these are important. Thanks~ That's a ton of work and must have taken a ton of time to render — Wind 17:10, 1 August 2012 (PDT)
- That just took me 2 days for all of the clips , http://youtu.be/_MVX6cp_XRQ Karmacharger 1:22 , 8/2/2012 (PDT)
- Eh, look at the pyro part again. You can't see the part when you kill the pyro with your flamethrower.
- After render that video i was too tired so i didn't watch it , but now it's fine no more black screens Karmacharger 1:45 , 8/5/2012 (PDT)
- In the Pyro and the Spy backpack view, when there is no goggles equipped, you didn't move the mouse to show it. Also, could you reorder the clips for each class a little so that it shows:
- After render that video i was too tired so i didn't watch it , but now it's fine no more black screens
- Eh, look at the pyro part again. You can't see the part when you kill the pyro with your flamethrower.
- That just took me 2 days for all of the clips , http://youtu.be/_MVX6cp_XRQ
- Render with srcdemo2 54 .dem file
- Backpack view without goggles
- Third person game view without goggles
- Backpack view with goggles
- Third person game view with goggles
- Kill notice comparison(s)
In short, reverse the order for the goggles/non-goggles clips. I think it's a little less confusing this way (but maybe I'm wrong?) — Wind 16:20, 8 August 2012 (PDT)
- http://youtu.be/HdPV_ldXTx8 Karmacharger 9:18 , 8/9/2012 (PDT)
- Is good, please upload~ — Wind 05:14, 13 August 2012 (PDT)
Part 1 & Part 2 The video size is 233 Mbs that's why i have to split. as for the .dem i uploaded them all because if the videos need to redone because need to show every weapons for every classes so they are needed. 
Karmacharger 6:58 , 8/14/2012 (PDT)
- Yes, that's one of the ideas behind collecting .dem's: making it easier when the video needs to be redone — Wind 14:34, 14 August 2012 (PDT)
When is Wind gonna be back?
Yes as soon he will. Karmacharger 8:20 , 8/6/2012 (PDT)
- In a week or so — Wind 04:06, 6 August 2012 (PDT)
