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Hopefully this list gives you some tips as to what to optimize for in terms of quality. Good luck with future versions of the demonstration videos! As I mentioned, I suggest focusing on getting just one video approved before moving on to the others. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:29, 17 July 2016 (PDT) | Hopefully this list gives you some tips as to what to optimize for in terms of quality. Good luck with future versions of the demonstration videos! As I mentioned, I suggest focusing on getting just one video approved before moving on to the others. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:29, 17 July 2016 (PDT) | ||
− | Thanks for the somewhat positive feedback, I am currently working on the shortstop video, but I am running into problems such as: | + | Thanks for the somewhat positive feedback, I am currently working on the shortstop video, but I am running into problems such as: I can't stop fraps from decreasing the video volume, and the reason for the resolution is because of my awkward monitor size which is because I use a HDMI cord to a tv for a monitor. |
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Needed
Prinny Machete
Carlton
Fubar Fanfare
Balloonibouncer
Disco Fever
Grappling Hook
(I mean, if nothing else, it is able to kill players.) Dogman15 (talk) 02:26, 24 December 2014 (PST)
- I don't know, but, Grappling Hook is having several changes each update, so every time an update releases, it would be need to re-made the entire video. In my opinion, I would wait until Mannpower to release it completely before doing a Weapon Demonstration video. ▪ - 08:37, 16 March 2015 (PDT)
- Yeah I agree with Gabrielwoj, otherwise we'd be constantly doing this demonstration :( Obilisk 13:32, 17 March 2015 (PDT)
- Today's update says Mannpower is no longer in Beta. So would now be a good time to do this? Awesome144 (talk) 18:12, 28 October 2015 (PDT)
- Yes. — Wind 13:48, 1 November 2015 (PST)
I should have this done soon; I've been sick for a week, so that's why it's taking longer than normal. - Uufje 14:13, 19 December 2015 (PST)
- Sorry for the massive delay. I've tried to get it done between being sick and my internet crapping out. https://youtu.be/q3h_aMTkcuU - Uufje 07:20, 20 January 2016 (PST)
- There are some kind of long pauses when I imagine you're pressing some binds to set things up in the Sniper+Spy clip. Try to shorten that.
- In that same clip, it's not immediately obvious if you're following the hooked person or if your own movement makes the other person move (until later in the clip when the spy moves behind an object). Try to show movement from the target in clear sight when you aren't yet fully attached to them, or perhaps show it while you're up in the air (by having the target be on the crates or something) to make it clear it's not you walking. It's also not clear if you can use your other weapons.
- Also, since this is an all-class weapon you need to show it for all classes. I suggest repeating showing a short fly-around clip around the same itinerary. — Wind 17:36, 24 January 2016 (PST)
Mannrobics
Whoever does this one, it would be really cool if you could get all nine classes to do the Mouse1 dance at the same time, in sync. Dogman15 (talk) 01:09, 14 July 2016 (PDT)
Zoomin' Broom
This demonstration has been reserved: Derpspy 16:17, 15 December 2015 (GMT)
Tools
Gift Wrap
- Does this still need to be done? I can do it. ~Hi5TBone 4:45 PM 6/12/2015 (CST)
- No one seems to have touched it, so go ahead. Obilisk 05:11, 13 June 2015 (PDT)
Upgrade to Premium Gift
- I'm not quite sure if this one is necessary Karmacharger 9:12 PM 8/24/2014 (PDT)
- Nah, probably not unless someone just happens to run upon that item — Wind 19:59, 27 October 2014 (PDT)
Strange Count Transfer Tool
This demonstration has been reserved: Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 06:30, 12 January 2016 (PST)
With the release of the Tough Break Update, it would be a good idea to get this done ASAP. -- Dr. Scaphandre 11:17, 23 December 2015 (PST)
I'm down. Was thinking doing it once between a normal strange wep and a strange skin, and then doing the process again but in reverse. Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 06:28, 12 January 2016 (PST)
- OK. — Wind 18:11, 18 January 2016 (PST)
Gun Mettle and Tough Break Festivizer
This demonstration has been reserved: Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 20:22, 18 January 2016 (PST)
- Do we need this? I'm totally down for doing it. Scoot-teh-Destroyer (talk) 06:34, 12 January 2016 (PST)
- Yes. — Wind 18:11, 18 January 2016 (PST)
Cosmetics
Boston Boom-Bringer
Demonstration of how the sound effect works
Pardon me if I'm putting in the wrong place, but I noticed that Infernal Orchestrina includes the demonstration. I know that was for a pyroland item, but what if the Boston Boom-Bringer had a demonstration video where it shows the sound effect that is played when taunting? Just like the Orchestrina had (albeit the Pyroland thing). There is several sound effects, though, so all of them has to be played. ▪ - 21:32, 26 March 2015 (PDT)
- Infernal Orchestrina was demonstrated because it turns pyroland vision on by itself, not because of the sound effect it adds. This item has no such dramatic change, so no need to demonstrate — Wind 15:08, 29 March 2015 (PDT)
Sucker Slug
Show assists in Pyroland
Need to be redone
Shortstop
Added Alt-fire attack: reach out and shove someone!
Reduced pushback vulnerable to +20% (from +40%)
Removed +20% bonus healing from all sources
This demonstration has been reserved: Luigi609 (talk) 04:33, 16 July 2016 (PDT)
Link: https://youtu.be/_EwKBFS9iA8 Luigi609 (talk) 05:35, 16 July 2016 (PDT)
- Hi Luigi609, thanks for taking time submitting multiple videos here, we appreciate your effort. I'm pretty sure you know the quality of all your videos, are not acceptable. You need to at least make sure your video quality has meet the minimum requirements. Even better, i have made a example demonstration video based on the minimum requirements: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONgc_XlZpiY this is the minimum quality we can accept. If anything goes wrong, sorry. Now what i want you to do is, compare your video quality to the one i made, and i also recommend you to learn how to make a proper quality video first, before making multiple videos.
Let's take a look at the basic things you have gotten wrong:
- 1. The video looks very bright
- 2. The video volume is very low
- 3. The loadout scene, You should already have your mouse cursor pointing at the item at the beginning of the clip and never moves it
- 4. Loadout scene are usually 4-6 seconds are enough
- 5. There are black bars at the top and bottom of the video
- 6. The video quality itself needs to improve
I won't go too much details into the demonstration itself, i wanna make sure you can get the basic things done right first, which are video quality itself. I'm not the person who approve videos right here, and that person is Windpower. If your video don't look as good as the example video i made, based on the minimum requirements, then it's usually not acceptable. There are millions of video tutorial showing "how to record good quality gaming videos" in YouTube. I suggest you should check them out first, and take your time to learn. Good luck Karmacharger 8:48 PM 7/17/2016 (PDT)
- Just want to make it clear, the "video quality" i was talking about, included: (Video quality, Frame rate, Audio quality, No black bars around the video) Karmacharger 12:45 AM 7/18/2016 (PDT)
- +1 on what Karma said. I suggest focusing on a single demonstration and getting that submitted rather than submitting lots of weapon demonstration videos at once, in order to avoid redoing many videos on every round.
- To add to what Karma said regarding the video quality (not related to the content of the demonstration yet, as this applies to all your demonstration videos):
- The video must be at least 720p. This doesn't mean that YouTube must have a 720p option, it means that the game footage must be recorded at 720p or higher, and must not be rescaled (or have black bars added) afterwards.
- The video contrast has low contrast. This is usually due to too low encoding settings, or invalid monitor color profile. For example, compare one frame I took from this demonstration to one frame I took from Vp999's Overdose demonstration below. You'll notice that the Overdose demonstration has a richer color, rather than bright brown overtones everywhere.
- The video shows aliasing artifacts. For example, look at the edge of the metal pillar on the left of the medic on the above images.
- The volume changes over the course of the video. For example, in this Shortstop demonstration, listen to the background "fan noise" that goes on during the loadout view. You'll notice that as soon as you fire the first shot at 0:15, the background noise decreases all of a sudden. This is usually due to recording software trying to be smart and to normalize the recorded volume; when it encounters a "loud" noise (like the gunshot here), it will decrease the volume that it records at, hence the disappearance of the background noise after the gunshot. Make sure you're not running any such audio normalization software, either on the listening side, or on the recording side, or on the video rendering side.
Hopefully this list gives you some tips as to what to optimize for in terms of quality. Good luck with future versions of the demonstration videos! As I mentioned, I suggest focusing on getting just one video approved before moving on to the others. — Wind 16:29, 17 July 2016 (PDT)
Thanks for the somewhat positive feedback, I am currently working on the shortstop video, but I am running into problems such as: I can't stop fraps from decreasing the video volume, and the reason for the resolution is because of my awkward monitor size which is because I use a HDMI cord to a tv for a monitor.
Crit-a-Cola
Added Marked-for-Death debuff for 2 seconds after the buff effect expires
Frontier Justice
Weapon description says "-15% damage penalty" (is a bug and damage remains unaffected) InstantMan (talk) 08:27, 15 July 2016 (PDT)
Sun-on-a-Stick
Take 25% less damage from fire while deployed
Righteous Bison
Fixed a bug causing players to be hit by the same projectile multiple times, causing the damage dealt to vary wildly
Per-shot damage has been increased to compensate, resulting in slightly more damage on average
Slowed projectile by 30%
Projectile damage reduced by 25% for each enemy penetrated
Disciplinary Action
Reduced duration of speed bonus on teammates to 2 seconds (from 3)
Iron Bomber
Decreased the fuse time to 1.4 seconds (from 2.0)
Brass Beast
20% damage resistance now only applies when spun up and below 50% max health
Widowmaker
Damage increased +10% when attacking the same target as your sentry
Eureka Effect
Added "Teleporters cost 50% less metal"
Reduced "50% less metal from Dispensers and Pickups" to 20%
Sydney Sleeper
Scoped shots now extinguish teammates
When fully charged, or when making a headshot, now applies Jarate in a radius
Cozy Camper
Now requires a full charge to gain flinch resistance
Link: https://youtu.be/hVpqWDKTh8Y Luigi609 (talk) 05:26, 16 July 2016 (PDT)
Enforcer
Attacks pierce resist and absorb effects from all sources
PDA Build
Level 1 teleporters now cost 50 metal (from 125)
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyBfTCdcjCI Luigi609 (talk) 09:16, 16 July 2016 (PDT)
Bootlegger
All boots now require a shield to activate any move speed bonus listed on the item
Ali Baba's Wee Booties
All boots now require a shield to activate any move speed bonus listed on the item
Medi Gun
All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target (Previously only available on the Quick Fix)
Stored ÜberCharge begins to decay over time after coming to rest
Ali Baba's Wee Booties
All Mediguns allow the Medic to match the speed of their heal target (Previously only available on the Quick Fix)
Stored ÜberCharge begins to decay over time after coming to rest
Cloak and Dagger
Can now pick up ammo kits for cloak meter while visible.
While invisible, Spy receives 20% less damage from all damage sources
While invisible, Spy has reduced timer on debuffs (fire, jarate, milk, bleed)
HUD now displays "Motion" rather than "Cloak"
Dead Ringer
Cloak mechanism has been overhauled (see patch notes)
Link: https://youtu.be/Rdm4q33_3kY Luigi609 (talk) 09:59, 16 July 2016 (PDT)
Enthusiast's Timepiece
While invisible, Spy receives 20% less damage from all damage sources
While invisible, Spy has reduced timer on debuffs (fire, jarate, milk, bleed)
Eviction Notice
- This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:31 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)
Now provides 15% move speed bonus
Now increases damage taken by 20%
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bgn1-HohHY Karmacharger 2:23 PM 6/10/2016 (PDT)
- One missed hit on the pyro. Rest is good — Wind 18:41, 26 June 2016 (PDT)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysoOQ7TeGlM alright hopefully it's good. I also re-rendered the Claidheamh Mór and Bushwacka with only showing the rocket damage, i uploaded both videos to the wiki channel, i don't think i should show you here, it's the same, just without the rest of the damage type clips. Well yeah, review once a month isn't enough. You can check twice a week, that wouldn't be too bad. Karmacharger 1:43 PM 7/3/2016 (PDT)
- Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:31, 4 July 2016 (PDT)
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysoOQ7TeGlM alright hopefully it's good. I also re-rendered the Claidheamh Mór and Bushwacka with only showing the rocket damage, i uploaded both videos to the wiki channel, i don't think i should show you here, it's the same, just without the rest of the damage type clips. Well yeah, review once a month isn't enough. You can check twice a week, that wouldn't be too bad. Karmacharger 1:43 PM 7/3/2016 (PDT)
- One missed hit on the pyro. Rest is good — Wind 18:41, 26 June 2016 (PDT)
Fishcake
- This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:32 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)
Now has 10 second cool down on use
Can now overheal up to 400hp
Can be thrown (alt-fire) as a small medkit for other players to use
Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7RFMlpxWGk Karmacharger 10:18 PM 6/12/2016 (PDT)
- You missed this one :p Karmacharger 1:46 PM 7/3/2016 (PDT)
- Is good, please upload~ — Wind 18:31, 4 July 2016 (PDT)
- Also i won't be doing the ones below, i'm gonna wait until the next update pops out and smash all of them once for all. Karmacharger 1:47 PM 7/3/2016 (PDT)
- OK. — Wind 18:31, 4 July 2016 (PDT)
- You missed this one :p Karmacharger 1:46 PM 7/3/2016 (PDT)
Force-A-Nature
- This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:32 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
- I'll try my hand at it. I've gotten most of the clips down. I just need to put the 2 demos together and get a screen recorder for the loadout.--Punishment Fatal (talk) 23:18, 10 October 2015 (PDT)
- Edit: I have the demos, but I'm having trouble compressing them. Quicktime doesn't want to let me work in h264 and the tga's have some sort of stop at certain frames when I didn't have in them in the game. How can I use a program that can smooth out the tga's or use a different format while recording a movie to extract the video and audio without stuttering or 1,000 files flooding my TF2?
- If you're talking about bringing the images together to form a clip, personally I use Virtualdub. After you srcdemo2 and use Virtualdub you can delete all the images you used, as you will have the video. Obilisk 01:21, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
- Yeah, I was using Virtualdub as well. It's just when I was watching the tgas compiled together, I noticed that at certain tgas the game completely halted and froze as if my game was stuttering though in the demo itself there was no visible sign of any framerate drop. Punishment Fatal (talk) 01:26, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
- I've also seemed to have encountered another problem. Everytime I try to open SrcDemo2, it just loads and stops immediately even without opening a window to let me troubleshoot the problem. Do you know how to work around this? Also, should I use OBS for recording the loadout or do you recommend some other program? Punishment Fatal (talk) 03:47, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
- Throw me a friend request, I can help out. Add me. Obilisk 05:48, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
- Alright, I found the problem for Virtualdub. It stuttered since it wasn't an actual player and didn't load all the frames together. However, when I exported the frames, it reduced the quality quite a bit. Is there any way I can keep the quality while converting? Punishment Fatal (talk) 13:10, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
- Edit: Nevermind, only Windows Media player was showing the quality as blocky. Windows Movie Maker shows it as normal. Punishment Fatal (talk) 13:36, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
- Alright, here's the rough edit for the Demonstration. I haven't added a loadout option yet or rendered it in SrcDemo2, but I want to hear your guys' critique. (Also thanks again to Obilisk for sending me the training vid music). Punishment Fatal (talk) 19:26, 12 October 2015 (PDT)
- Throw me a friend request, I can help out. Add me. Obilisk 05:48, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
- If you're talking about bringing the images together to form a clip, personally I use Virtualdub. After you srcdemo2 and use Virtualdub you can delete all the images you used, as you will have the video. Obilisk 01:21, 11 October 2015 (PDT)
- Overall It's looking pretty good so far Punishment Fatal. My only suggestions would be to perhaps not fire two shots every time you intend to shoot. From the looks of your demonstration it seems compulsory to always fire both barrels. I'd say maybe just shoot one shot when you know the other won't be shooting at anything. ( An example is at 0:40 when you kill the medic, one of your shots go to waste. Try killing him with just the amount of bullets you need to, and again straight after, you should only shoot the backboard once.) Also, the ending sound should merge with the original demonstration music, rather than cutting to no music then bringing it in. Otherwise, as I said, looking good! Obilisk 04:16, 15 October 2015 (PDT)
- Here's the fixed edit. Again, it's pre SrcDemo2 and loadout since I'm still trying to get SrcDemo to work (Dokanlibrary doesn't want to work for me on Windows 8) and I'm trying to decide which program to use for the loadout screen (would OBS be the best option?).
- The clips you have provided are looking very nice. Though, not sure about the blurred transition, I'd say try avoid the blur and just have a transition if possible. Personally I use Fraps to record loadout views, can't say I've experienced much with other programs though I'm sure any one of them would do the trick. Obilisk 05:10, 18 October 2015 (PDT)
- What Obilisk said, plus:
- Audio and video appear desynced. Check the shot sounds vs video during the first clip at 0.5x speed.
- Make sure to reload at least once with only one shot fired to show both shells being thrown out. This can be done with the medic if you end on a single shell left, or otherwise after shooting the back board with a single shot.
- Don't twitch-jump (1:40). See current demonstration. You don't need to twitch, just need to be looking at the right angle while jumping.
- Framerate is choppy (SrcDemo2 would fix it, and if that doesn't work, plain Source Recorder still should)
— Wind 14:13, 18 October 2015 (PDT)
- I must unfortunately remove my reservation. My computer does not want to co-operate well with any recording program and I no longer have the free time I once had to continue with the videos. Punishment Fatal (talk) 23:55, 4 January 2016 (PST)
- This is probably the first time i said this, I don't think i can do this one, because the second clip is a nightmare to record, always missed the jump, and can't double-jump for whatever reason some times. Beside it only has the description updated Karmacharger 11:01 PM 6/14/2016 (PDT)
- You might want to use my config which makes it really easy (just middle-click while aiming slightly downwards). Or if you just want the jump alias:
- This is probably the first time i said this, I don't think i can do this one, because the second clip is a nightmare to record, always missed the jump, and can't double-jump for whatever reason some times. Beside it only has the description updated Karmacharger 11:01 PM 6/14/2016 (PDT)
alias "+a_mouse3" "slot1; +jump; +duck; +attack" alias "-a_mouse3" "-duck; -jump; -attack" bind "mouse3" "+a_mouse3"
— Wind 18:41, 26 June 2016 (PDT)
Gloves of Running Urgently
- This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:33 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)
Increased holster time penalty
Golden Frying Pan
- This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 2:33 PM 5/27/2016 (PDT)
Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)
Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)
Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%
Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)
Yes, for the Engineer it functions as a Wrench, and all the Wrench things are demonstrated in this video. - Uufje 01:40, 3 July 2015 (PDT)
Horseless Headless Horsemann's Headtaker
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
Half-Zatoichi
This demonstration has been reserved: Vp999 (talk) 02:16, 6 July 2016 (PDT)
Increased holster and deploy time and increased range
Honorbound changed. Deals 50 self damage on holster if no kill was made. Cannot be holstered if player is below 50 life and no kill was made.
100% life restore on kill changed to 50% health gain on kill that can result in overheal
No random crits
My third try to make a demonstration. I am SkullCake, I changed my name and I made a new account. This will be my account now. Here is the video. I hope it's good. -Vp999 (talk) 04:25, 6 July 2016 (PDT)
- If you want, we can merge your two accounts so that edits are still preserved under the same account.
- Regarding the demonstration:
- Inconsistency between soldier/demo clips: the soldier one doesn't show what happens if you try to holster the weapon while being at 50 HP, but the demo one does. It should be demonstrated for both classes (I think that would be the first weapon like this for the Soldier).
- Slight framerate drop when making towards the medic at 0:48.
- The video doesn't demonstrate the large melee range. The current demo doesn't either but it should have... Check the Eyelander demo for an example of how to demonstrate this. Should be demonstrated for both classes.
The rest is good~ — Wind 17:19, 10 July 2016 (PDT)
I have one more problem... the big yellow damage numbers doesn't work anymore... -Vp999 (talk) 00:39, 11 July 2016 (PDT)
Is this video good? -Vp999 (talk) 11:05, 11 July 2016 (PDT)
- Not sure what you mean; the big yellow damage numbers do show up in the video.
- Your video is perfect, just one thing to change: the demonstration of extended melee range for the Soldier should come after the other soldier-related clips (i.e. just before the Demoman loadout view at 1:23). — Wind 16:29, 17 July 2016 (PDT)
I changed what you said, and I also changed the demoman bit to match Soldier's demonstration then melee range. I hope that this is good. -Vp999 (talk) 00:03, 18 July 2016 (PDT)
Here is the link for this one. -Vp999 (talk) 11:13, 18 July 2016 (PDT)
Huo-Long Heater
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
Added +25% increased damage vs. burning players
Added -10% damage
Reduced ammo drain to -4/sec (from -6)
Reduced pulse damage from Ring of Fire to 12 (from 15) due to increased damage vs. burning
Jag
With the change to Base Construction boost, Jag bonus has improved.
Added +15% swing speed.
Added 20% repair penalty. Repairs will give up to 80hp per swing instead 100hp per swing.
Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)
Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%
Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)
Added damage penalty against buildings. Now takes 3 hits to destroy a Sapper.)
- This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 12:03 AM 3/12/2016 (PDT)
Loose Cannon
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
Reduced projectile speed
Reduced cannon impact damage from 60 to 50. Damage also scales with distance.
Reduced knockback from cannon hit. Knockback strength is now similar to airblast.
This demonstration has been reserved: Derpspy 16:49, 15 December 2015 (GMT)
Mad Milk
Updated description. (Also handy for putting out a fire) Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%)
- This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 5:44 PM 1/7/2016 (PDT)
- The "Extinguish an ally reduces the cooldown by 20%" does nothing... i'm not sure why. i've reported it to Valve Karmacharger 5:45 PM 1/7/2016 (PDT)
Manmelter
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
Removed hidden 20% fire rate penalty
Market Gardener
This demonstration has been reserved: Luigi609 (talk) 03:29, 16 July 2016 (PDT)
20% Attack Speed penalty
Link: https://youtu.be/TIK-xlOtyTU, I just uploaded it, give it some time to process the HD. Luigi609 (talk) 04:09, 16 July 2016 (PDT)
Minigun
Viewmodel has been updated.
- This demonstration has been reserved: Luigifan656 (talk) 15:43, 29 July 2015 (PDT)
Is this here good? https://youtu.be/GUFxZuTWU1o Luigifan656 (talk) 06:31, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
- I personally noticed a few things:
- Quality I think could use some improvement, try increasing your bitrate or quantizer settings when rendering the final video.
- A minor thing, but usually the mouse pointer is already pointing at the backpack icon when the video starts.
- The splitscreen scene looks weird, doesn't look like you centered and cropped the clips well enough. I'm assuming you meant to make a three-way splitscreen, try fiddling around until you can make three equally wide clips next to each other.
- The music ends too soon, the "clack" ending sound should be at the very end.
This is not an official review, but it should give you something to work with before Wind returns. Good luck - Uufje 07:52, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
I am nearly done now, but I can't seem to find a training video mp3 that is as long as my demonstration. Luigifan656 (talk) 10:10, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
- You can find extended music here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/y0gjm9yekjj6zzx/Demonstration+Music+v2.rar - Uufje 13:35, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
Is this here better? https://youtu.be/94Jt9uwb1uU Luigifan656 (talk) 14:27, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
- Hi Luigifan656, first clip looks good to me, though the second clip needs some work.
- Generally speaking, the hud needs to be present in all 3 splitscreens, two of yours appear to be cropped. However, with this specific splitscreen you don't even need the hud present at all, as the splitscreens are comparing the speed rather than the health or ammo.
- Please give more time for the transition.
- Start the splitscreen from a stationary potision, rather than having the heavies already running. (Basically try get the clip to be as identical as the original demonstration )
- During the splitscreen there is no sound. I'd suggest having the shooting clip's sound play as well as the far left sound's play.
- You should swap the splitscreen order, having the shooting clip on the far right and the spinning clip in the middle.
- Don't end the splitscreen clip so suddenly, give some time then unspin the miniguns. (Again, try mimic the original demonstration.)
- Also, are you running a german version of the game? When you shoot the enemies they appear to spark. Not sure if this is an issue or not, but worth noting.
Overall, good attempt at your demonstration dude, the first clip looks spot on to me, though the splitscreens do need some work. I know it seems like a mouthful, splitscreens can be a pain, but most of them are a easy fix. - This is only my opinion, so it'd be worth waiting for Wind's response. Obilisk 19:54, 30 July 2015 (PDT)
- Yeah, the splitscreens don't seem to be centered. The middle clip is good, since the minigun is exactly in the middle, but the other two are still off. Try to fiddle around and make the right and left clips look like the middle one. - Uufje 00:37, 31 July 2015 (PDT)
This is better I think: https://youtu.be/qDKNgbImsZ4 oh, and I am playing on the german version of the game. I hope that isn't bad. Luigifan656 (talk) 07:37, 31 July 2015 (PDT)
- Hmmm what is it? http://prntscr.com/7z90rp RADIST | T | C 07:43, 31 July 2015 (PDT)
Oh, I think Sony Vegas corrupted the file. Weird that I didn't see it when I edited it.
This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zF0H-HOHHQ&feature=youtu.be Luigifan656 (talk) 13:33, 31 July 2015 (PDT)
Still a few things you need to fix up Luigifan656,
- The splitscreen position and sizes are still a bit off. To get 3 splitscreens even, have the far left track motion as "-640", the middle clip as "0" and the far right as "640" You then want to crop each clip to the size of "640" Doing so will have all three perfectly even.
- The right clip is out of sync. It should sync perfectly with the middle clip. (Starting of the walk and ending of the walk should be perfeclty synced for the two.)
- The far left clip appears to lag/jolt at 0:48.
- There are bullet holes present in your clips all over the walls. To clear them simply type "r_cleardecals" in the console.
- You should allow the miniguns to fully spin down before ending the demonstration. Also, the fade to black for each clip should be synced.
- Also, I don't think the transitions between the clips should fade completely to black, to make them easily merge simply just place one clip over the other with a 0:15 transition. It should look like this. Obilisk 00:54, 1 August 2015 (PDT)
Feel free to wait for Wind's responce, I'm not sure what his opinion is about the minigun spin ups, as he may want them to be walking then spin and walk (Like the original minigun demonstrations are currently) Again though, it's very close to looking nice. Keep it up! Obilisk 00:54, 1 August 2015 (PDT)
- Oh hi. Thanks for iterating pretty quickly on this demonstration. Here's my opinion:
- All of what Obilisk said applies (including spin and walk)
- For Minigun-like weapon demonstrations, it's customary to move a little bit forward in the spawning wooden box so that you are right up against the front wooden barrier during the first clip. This way, in this position, the minigun firing effect won't clip against the top wooden barrier. Do so before starting to record (don't move while recording).
- There is some lag (or perhaps just a jittery mouse) around 0:20-0:23
— Wind 16:50, 2 August 2015 (PDT)
Sorry that it took so long, but I hope this is better now: https://youtu.be/OyQibzGLowA Luigifan656 (talk) 15:43, 9 August 2015 (PDT)
- Hey Luigifan656,
- Another good attempt at the demonstration, but there's still a few things:
- In my opinion you spend just a little too long shooting the pyro. After the 4th or so 'burst' you can increase the fire rate a bit to finish him off, however this may be alright as it is.
- Your splitscreen doesn't appear to be even nor centered, each of the clips should have the crosshair in the middle.
- Your far left splitscreen appears to have a black crosshair, try keep all the colours consistant throughout the demonstration.
- The miniguns need to spin up completely in sync.
- Again, try have the heavy's start in a stationary position, then move all at once and then spin up the miniguns. (Just like the original Minigun demonstration.)
- Overall, again VERY close Luigi, just a few things. Since you said you're using Sony Vegas I made you a quick video on how to get the clips perfectly placed for a 3 way splitscreen. Note this is on Sony Vegas 12.0 Watch here. Ignore the glitches at the end, it's just Sony Vegas not liking to preview it properly. Wind hopefully will be checking the talk page within the next few days, so you should be able to get his opinion soon as well. Hang tight. Obilisk 05:35, 10 August 2015 (PDT)
- I don't have anything to add to what Obilisk said except that no need to worry about #1 (shooting the pyro too long). Nice Vegas tutorial :3 — Wind 15:56, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
My first weapon demonstration video Watch here - Ratatoullite 21:29, 12 May 2016 (GMT -3)
- "This video has been removed by the user." :( Karmacharger 1:44 AM 5/21/2016 (PDT)
Natascha
This demonstration has been reserved: Dodosbirds (talk) 16:02, 5 December 2015 (PST)
20% damage resistance now only applies when spun up and below 50% max health
Stun amount now has distance falloff. Decreases starting at 512hu down to zero stun at 1536Hu
Necro Smasher
This demonstration has been reserved: HolyShift (talk) 11:38, 22 December 2015 (PST)
Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)
Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)
Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%
Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)
Yes, for the Engineer it functions as a Wrench, and all the Wrench things are demonstrated in this video. - Uufje 01:40, 3 July 2015 (PDT)
Nostromo Napalmer
Extinguishing allies now grants +20hp
Overdose
This demonstration has been reserved: Vp999 (talk) 07:52, 12 July 2016 (PDT)
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
Increased movement speed bonus to +20% (from +10%)
Increased damage penalty to -15% (from -10%)
Is this video good? -Vp999 (talk) 10:54, 12 July 2016 (PDT)
- Good job, the quality is 10/10. But still has a few issues though.
Let's take a look:
1. At 0:44, right scene. There is a sudden frame cut or stop, whatever you call it. But you know what i'm saying
Just one. Congratulation, you just need to re-record that particular scene, and show me the fixed version. I'm not the person who approve videos here, so wait for Windpower for him to review your video. Karmacharger 9:10 PM 7/17/2016 (PDT)
- It's not exactly at 0:44, it's just a bit later when you're almost right against the back wall. Should be easy to fix hopefully. Rest is all good~ — Wind 16:29, 17 July 2016 (PDT)
Here is the fixed version. I hope it's good. -Vp999 (talk) 01:22, 18 July 2016 (PDT)
And here is the link -Vp999 (talk) 10:29, 18 July 2016 (PDT)
Panic Attack
No longer auto-fires when fully loaded. Shots can be held and released at will.
Persian Persuader
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
Removed ammo pickups granting health instead of ammo
Added penalties of reduced primary and secondary ammo
Ammo pickups now replenish charge
Now gains charge meter on hit
Phlogistinator
Removed 10% damage penalty.
When activating 'MMMPH', the taunting Pyro gains temporary invulnerability and immunity to knockback effects.
No longer restores player to max health on MMMPH activate.
Increased amount of damage required to fill MMMPH meter to 300 from 225.
I'd recommend no one reserving this demonstration yet. Seems like a weapon Valve should nerf... Hopefully soon. Obilisk 22:32, 25 December 2015 (PST)
- Cool, weapon has had a minor nerf. Obilisk 20:27, 20 January 2016 (PST)
- They should do a miner movement speed. Like -10% movement speed. I'm the real TTheenderr (talk) 08:07, 8 February 2016 (PST)
Pomson 6000
Über and Cloak drain decreases over distance from target.
Reduced long-range damage to 32 (from 42)
Power Up Canteen
Doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does Toomai Glittershine 10:04, 26 June 2014 (PDT)
Pretty Boy's Pocket Pistol
Increased health recovered on hit from +3 to +5
Quick-Fix
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
ÜberCharge rate reduced to +10% (from +25%)
Quickiebomb Launcher
Damage is now increased based on charge amount when the bomb is fired
Increased charge time reduction to -70% (from -50%)
Increased damage bonus for max charged shots to +35% (from +25%)
Increased clip size penalty to -50% (from -25%)
Removed Stickybombs fizzle 4 seconds after landing
Rainblower
Extinguishing allies now grants +20hp
This demonstration has been reserved: weatherman115 08:48, 20 March 2016 (PDT)
I'll convince my friend to get in game and see what I can do. weatherman115 08:48, 20 March 2016 (PDT)
Rescue Ranger
Healing per bolt reduced from 75 to 60
Reserve Shooter
Now boosts switch-to speed by 20% and switch-from speed by 15%
Now only mini-crits blastsjump, knockback airblast and grapple targets.
Robo-Sandvich
Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit
- As far as I know since I still have the Robo-Sandvich, Valve didn't update the description to include the note about its attributes like Sandvich. No need to be redone (for now). Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 16:33, 10 July 2015 (PDT)
Rocket Jumper
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
Link: https://youtu.be/V2pFesg4Y4A Luigi609 (talk) 09:31, 16 July 2016 (PDT)
Sandvich
Updated description to note that this item can be thrown (alt-fire) to supply players with a medkit
Sapper
Decreased the damage penalty on Sentries sapped by the Spy from -66% to -33%
Scorch Shot
Reduced damage penalty from -50% to -35%
Now has increased knock back on burning targets
Increased the blast radius from flares from 92Hu to 110Hu
Hits and explosions always minicrit burning targets
Soda Popper
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
Added On hit: build Hype
Removed Builds Hype as you run
This demonstration has been reserved: weatherman115 08:07, 3 March 2016 (PST)
Still need a normal zip of the demonstration map, but I'll grab OBS and see what I can do. I'll make a concept video or something in the meantime. weatherman115 08:07, 3 March 2016 (PST)
Finally have the map file. I'll grab Source Recorder when I get home and get to it as soon as I can. I'm going to be busy this weekend, so I'll have to get demos recorded as quickly as possible. weatherman115 13:26, 17 March 2016 (PDT)
- How's this? https://mega.nz/#!kg4WUBgC!8QxDHFVBDD7X6rd44ICSxM4kz5RijGXVOOV7SyQ5J6c weatherman115 16:45, 17 March 2016 (PDT)
- Forgot the hype thing. Apparently it's a bit choppy. https://mega.nz/#!l1JUmDjb!899la7wcDdEEiO_V9c5wSUyoM2ucIEg8u3wXhGSiXXI weatherman115 17:00, 17 March 2016 (PDT)
- As specified on the project page, you need to upload the video to YouTube in unlisted mode. This is because what matters isn't how good your video looks on its own, but how good it looks after YouTube conversion, since that's where it'll end up being seen. For the same reason, it also needs to be all in one video, not just adding new videos for missing clips.
- Now regarding the videos themselves: they are both very choppy. The minimum requirement is 30fps without frame drops, with 60fps being better. Are you using Source Recorder? It should let you record at any framerate without slowdown, as long as you do it from source demo files (not playing+recording live).
- You also need background music, and the modified HUD files to show damage numbers better. The video contents are good though, timing-wise and content-wise. — Wind 18:39, 20 March 2016 (PDT)
- 1. I think my friend has a Youtube channel, so I'll get in touch with them.
- 2. I was actually using OBS. I think it was my proccesor or the anticheat hook that made it choppy.
- 3. I didn't add in background music because I had to leave early the next day for to visit relatives, so I had to get something out. Also, I was a bit on edge on downloading the hud, although I can probably remove it later. I have to leave again this next weekend, so I'll get to it as soon as I can. weatherman115 04:29, 21 March 2016 (PDT)
- They don't have a youtube channel. Darn. I'll try to get a Youtube channel up without my IT buddy yelling at me for making an account without their OK. weatherman115 13:25, 21 March 2016 (PDT)
- Are you doing all this on a work computer or something? — Wind 13:09, 27 March 2016 (PDT)
- Nah. Also, I won't be able to get to this until May, and even then I have a lot to do, so hopefully I'll get back to it by summer.
- Are you doing all this on a work computer or something? — Wind 13:09, 27 March 2016 (PDT)
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Short Circuit
Projectile destruction has been moved to alt-fire at the cost of -15 per shot. There is a 0.5s cool down between attempts and refire
Cannot pick up buildings when the Short Circuit is deployed
Base projectile attack is -10 metal (hit or miss) and consume -5 metal for each projectile destroyed
Southern Hospitality
Increased base wrench construction speed on hit boost by 50%. Buildings now build 2.5x faster instead of just 2x (additive of 1.5x + base speed)
Teleporters and Dispensers redeploy +50% faster (2.5x without wrench boost, 5.5x with wrench boost)
Building pick up speed penalty reduced from 25% to 10%
Building repair costs increased from 20 metal to 33 metal to repair 100hp per wrench hit (from 5HP per metal to 3HP per metal)
- This demonstration has been reserved: Karmacharger 12:02 AM 3/12/2016 (PDT)
Splendid Screen
Updated description to better detail the weapon's features.
Removed the ability to deal charge impact damage at any range
Recharge rate increased by 50%
Increased blast resistance from 15% to 20%
Spy-cicle
No longer displays Fire immunity shield when fire immunity is triggered
Tide Turner
Self damage will no longer decrease charge when charging
Fall damage will no longer decrease charge when charging
Amount of charge taken away on damage when charging reduced from 3 to 1 per point of damage
Now grants mini-crit instead of full-crit on charge bash
Reduced resistances to 15%
Tomislav
Now 20% more accurate (less spread)
Increased spin up bonus from 10% to 20%
This demonstration has been reserved: Jimbo Jones (talk) 18:26, 31 August 2015 (PDT)
Ullapool Caber
Reduced explosion base damage from 100 to 75
Reduced damage ramp up bonus for close range attacks. Now is the same as other explosive weapons.
Base melee damage increased from 35 to 55
Added 20% fire rate penalty
Added 100% switch-to time penalty
This demonstration has been reserved: Bruss48 (T | C) 14:05, 20 January 2016 (PST)
- I'll see how this one goes. I found a video editor called Lightworks and I'll see if I can edit the clips with it.
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- I'm crying right now for how bad this looks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9t_GuBO1pA Bruss48 (T | C) 20:04, 9 February 2016 (PST)
- Yeah, you definitely need to work on video quality here. The content is mostly good otherwise but please focus on getting a nice-quality video first, without the black borders and at a better resolution. — Wind 15:36, 27 February 2016 (PST)
- I'm crying right now for how bad this looks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9t_GuBO1pA Bruss48 (T | C) 20:04, 9 February 2016 (PST)
Vaccinator
Resistance and Über mechanism changed, see patch notes.
Removed 10% health regeneration on proper resist
Added slight ÜberCharge build on proper resist
Increased ÜberCharge rate from +50% to +67%
Reduced overhealed ÜberCharge build rate penalty to 33% from 66%. As this penalty is applied after the base increase, healing an overhealed patient is now 33% more effective.
Questions and Proposals
Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the Need to be Redone section above and it will be dealt with.
So it appears that the weapon switch speed for every class has increased from 0.67 to 0.5 seconds. Are we going to have to redo all the demonstrations where weapon switching is present? Obilisk 23:00, 25 December 2015 (PST)
- No, that's probably too much. — Wind 14:29, 27 December 2015 (PST)
Is there any particular reason we don't allow Collector's quality items to be used in demonstrations? Hail Fellow Well Met (talk) 23:38, 11 January 2016 (PST)
- My assumption would be that Collector's quality is rather rare, and as such unrecognizable for most players, since Unique and Vintage have been around for ages all players by now should be able to recognize those. Although as far as I know we haven't talked about including Collector's quality in the suitable list for the Loadout screen, maybe now, being a year and a bit after the Collector's quality has been added, Wind may allow it. Let's see what he says. In my opinion the colour hurts my eyes haha. Obilisk 05:09, 12 January 2016 (PST)
- It's definitely not the quality most people watching the video would have the item in. And if they do, then they would already know there's no difference between Collector and non-Collector. The reverse is not as likely.
- I also don't think disallowing Collector's quality items prevents people from contributing to these videos. Surely if you manage to get a Collector's item you can also manage to get a non-Collector version of it.
- More generally, the allowed qualities the "common" ones such that they are recognizable by most people and don't put up a barrier for contribution. It also prevents the temptation people may have to show off their rare item when they have a non-rare version of it. And having a small restricted set keeps videos consistent. — Wind 18:11, 18 January 2016 (PST)
I'm thinking of doing one of the weapons here, but my graphics card is confused as to whether or not it can record video. Could I record the demos and upload the demos for recording? weatherman115 08:11, 2 February 2016 (PST)
- That's not the hard part of the work (the demo rendering/cutting/adding backpack view/music mixing/transitions/muxing/uploading to youtube/etc process is significant) and the review process would be pretty awkward if the responsibility is shared between two people, so I don't think that kind of system would work very well. — Wind 14:46, 6 February 2016 (PST)
- I knew there was going to be a problem. I'll see if I can get my card to record video, although I'm afraid that it will break the card. But frankly, it's worked before, so it shouldn't be a problem.
- ...I would put my graphic card name here, but I'm away from my computer and I can't check from anywhere other than there. I do remember that it's an AMD. weatherman115 07:36, 8 February 2016 (PST)
- Found it. It's a Radeon HD 5900 Series. weatherman115 15:09, 8 February 2016 (PST)
- Can you find the precise number? 5900 is a wide series. I'm pretty sure they're all good enough to use Source Recorder at 7250p or higher though so I don't think you should have problem rendering as long as you have the correct drivers. — Wind 15:36, 27 February 2016 (PST)
- I was actually thinking of using OBS, but that sounds good. Where can I download it?
- Also, can I have a non-7zip file of the demonstration map? I don't want to download any more software, and I'm pretty sure Windows 10 can't unzip .7z files. weatherman115 06:28, 2 March 2016 (PST)
- Here's the extracted map file: http://weaponref.wiki.tf/tr_target_weaponref_hdr.bsp — Wind 18:08, 13 March 2016 (PDT)
- Been way too long since I last checked my account, completely forgot about this. I'm on mobile right now, plus I've got life stuff to do, so I'll get to it as soon as I can. Thanks! weatherman115 13:17, 17 March 2016 (PDT)
- For the demonstration config, how do I reset my settings after recording? I'm a very competitive player, so being able to restore my settings would be great. weatherman115 14:45, 17 March 2016 (PDT)
- The Source engine configuration file language is very limited. It doesn't have any kind of state-keeping, so there is no way for a config file to be able to undo itself. The only way to have an easy "undo" is rather to have a config file that sets the options you want. Then you can alternate between the two config files in order to switch between one or the other. There's no way for the demonstration-specific config file to figure out what your previous configuration was, so it can't provide a way to undo itself either. Sorry :( — Wind 18:39, 20 March 2016 (PDT)
- Here's the extracted map file: http://weaponref.wiki.tf/tr_target_weaponref_hdr.bsp — Wind 18:08, 13 March 2016 (PDT)
- Can you find the precise number? 5900 is a wide series. I'm pretty sure they're all good enough to use Source Recorder at 7250p or higher though so I don't think you should have problem rendering as long as you have the correct drivers. — Wind 15:36, 27 February 2016 (PST)