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== {{icon item|Battery Canteens|16px}} [[Battery Canteens]] ==
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Old discussion (2020)
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I want to do this, but I think I'll screw up. Should I download the split-screen version of the recorder? Edit: Okay, I've watched the normal Power Canteen video, and I have a few questions. 1. On the Engineer critical canteen part, how would I be able to spawn a robot that doesn't shoot instantly? 2. On the Engineer über canteen part, how would I be able to place a robot that I can control with shooting? 3. On the Engineer Buildings Upgrade canteen part, how would I be able to start the wave and not have any robots come out? 4. On the Engineer Refill Ammo canteen part, on the level 3 Sentry, would I be able to use a Wrangler, shoot all its ammo, then return with a default loadout and show it? 5. On the Medic canteen part, how do I spawn a bot that I can control and name Friendly Scout? 6. On the Medic Refill Ammo part, how would I be able to get the first person view of the bot? 7. In the video, how would I be able to take away the chat box so it doesn't say "[player] used [canteen]!"? Thanks ahead of time. [[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 20:29, 13 June 2013 (PDT)
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Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be
:For the bot stuff, you should look at [[Team_Fortress_Wiki:Weapon_Demonstration#Bot scripting commands|this]]. For the chat stuff, you should use the setting <code>hud_saytext_time 0</code>. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[Image:Item icon Pyro's Boron Beanie.png|21px|link=User_talk:Darkid|alt=talk]]|[[Image:Item icon Der Wintermantel.png|21px|link=Special:Contributions/Darkid|alt=contribs]]) 20:36, 13 June 2013 (PDT)
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What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2
::Thanks for that. I have another question though. When I try to download WeGame, it comes up with an error saying that my browser (Google Chrome) can't find that page. What should I do? Edit: Okay, I found out that WeGame was sold to [http://www.tagged.com Tagged] and is no longer working. Is there any other sources besides Fraps that could work? I don't want to pay for it, and also I don't think Source Recorder can record me actually showing off the item in the loadout screen. [[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 23:04, 13 June 2013 (PDT)
 
:::Yes source recorder only record in-game [...]. But i'll recommended you to use "Mirillis Action!" [...] it's a recorder which is similar as fraps but trust me Mirillis Action is better. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 4:01  ,  6/14/2013 (PDT)
 
::::Sweet, thanks for helping! (P.S. In future reference, thanks for giving me a little layout for the Battery Canteens). [[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 02:32, 14 June 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::Edit: I don't think I can take this recording job anymore. When I try to upload a video, it says that it's in the wrong format so I can't do so. Also, whenever I record, I have a terrible framerate (around 15-20ish), and my HUD's messed up since I had a custom one before I reset it, and deleting most of the files did nothing. [[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]] ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) 11:37, 14 June 2013 (PDT)
 
::::::Youtube only support (.MOV .MPEG4 .AVI .WMV .MPEGPS .FLV .3GPP .WebM) what kind of video format do you used? .AVI and .WMV is recommended also there is another location folder for the hud Here (Steam\steamapps\common\Team Fortress 2\tf\download). in mirillis action make sure the record option is .Avi file format , 60 fps , video size original if framerate are still terrible Try using Fraps to record. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:38  ,  6/15/2013 (PDT)
 
::::::Punishment Fatal: Since this is your first demo (and it's a big one), you should try uploading a sample clip having the same video quality as the final demonstration, in order to check that it meets the quality requirements — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 13:10, 15 June 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::::Alright, but I do run into 2 problems. My first problem is that I can't find the sound file for the recordings and that I can't find the training_vid mp3 sound files anywhere. Where might I be able to find them? Edit: Sorry for the inconvenience, but I can't do this one anymore. My frames are really bugging me with any recording software and only if I put it at the lowest settings do I get decent ones.
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Punishment Fatal|Punishment Fatal]]''' ([[User talk:Punishment Fatal|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Punishment Fatal|contribs]]) </small>
 
::::::::You can use source recorder, which can render at any framerate and any quality, regardless of how fast or slow your computer is (it'll just take more time) — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:22, 23 June 2013 (PDT)
 
::::Karmacharger: Please do not link to pirated software, it is against the [[Team Fortress Wiki:Terms of Use|terms of use of the wiki]]. I will have to block you if you do it again :( — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 13:10, 15 June 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::Sorry , didn't know that D: [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:02  ,  6/16/2013 (PDT)
 
:Should i do the same way as Power Up Canteen video? [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 10:43 PM 7/19/2013 (PDT)
 
::Yes. The only difference between the two (as far as I'm aware) is that the Battery Canteen doesn't have different skins for different types of fill. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 07:46, 19 July 2013 (PDT)
 
:::http://youtu.be/OZSrSTiEirU [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 7:23 PM 1/21/2014 (PDT)
 
::::Like last time, during the first clip (with crits) you switch weapon almost at the same time as the crit boost runs out, so it looks like the crit boost is cancelled by the fact that you switched weapons. You should switch weapons earlier or later to show that this isn't the case (switching earlier would show that the crit boost persists, too). The Medic clip later clarifies this but that's a lot of time away from the first clip. The Engineer "instant building upgrade" clip is poorly cut (there's a long-ish pause at the beginning before you start looking around at the building, and the clip ends very quickly after the second upgrade is used. Remove some idle time from the beginning and add some at the end). There is a little "resupply" sound effect at the beginning of the spy's sapper clip (last clip of the video) that should be cut away. All the rest is good and the music is well-mixed — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:28, 26 January 2014 (PST)
 
  
:http://youtu.be/OmQ-12RWyZg [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 12:37 AM 1/28/2014 (PDT)
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:Hi there,
::All good, please upload~ Congrats on the big demo again — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:23, 1 February 2014 (PST)
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: You now have to wait for [[User:WindPower|WindPower]] to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
:::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/r681ibzrrdyd0h4/Battery+Canteen_Full.part1.rar Part 1] , [http://www.mediafire.com/download/8i1td2tqk0ee076/Battery+Canteen_Full.part2.rar Part 2] , [http://www.mediafire.com/download/0r3h65m4d04k90s/Battery+Canteen_Full.part3.rar Part 3] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:47 PM 2/2/2014 (PDT)
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: My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
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: It also lacks editing.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
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:::> he's very busy nowadays
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:::You give me too much credit. [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  
== {{icon item|Fortified Compound|16px}} [[Fortified Compound]] ==
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::Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be <br />
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::[[User:Fokuskii|Fokuskii]] ([[User talk:Fokuskii|talk]]) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
  
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:::The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
== {{icon item|Accursed Apparition|16px}} [[Accursed Apparition]] ==
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:::The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  
== {{icon item|Archimedes the Undying|16px}} [[Archimedes the Undying]] ==
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I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:35 PM 2/15/2014 (PDT)}}
 
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAM4ReNi-HQ [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 7:40 PM 2/16/2014 (PDT)
 
:::All good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
 
::::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/n731wtutf4tao5u/Undying+bird.avi Download Link] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:06 PM 2/17/2014 (PDT)
 
  
== {{icon item|Backstabber's Boomslang|16px}} [[Backstabber's Boomslang]] ==
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Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
I would like to do it, but my TF2 is Cut (German). But i can lend this Item to someone who want do this :)
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Badmedic|Badmedic]]''' ([[User talk:Badmedic|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Badmedic|contribs]]) 15:20, 12 February 2014</small>
 
  
== {{icon item|Carrion Companion|16px}} [[Carrion Companion]] ==
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:It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
  
== {{icon item|Chucklenuts|16px}} [[Chucklenuts]] ==
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::Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. [[User:God&#39;sWrath|God&#39;sWrath]] ([[User talk:God&#39;sWrath|talk]]) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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:::Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
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== {{icon item|Compatriot|16px}} [[Compatriot]] ==
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I've reserved this but I've been thinking it over and I'm not sure if it's really necessary. The [[Strangifier]] demonstration shows the exact same process of completing a chemistry set to acquire a strangifier and then applying it to the item. Both demonstrations would bassically be the same. Do we really need two demonstrations showing the exact same thing? Or what should this demonstration do to be different from the Strangifier demonstration? [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 22:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
  
== {{icon item|Cobber Chameleon|16px}} [[Cobber Chameleon]] ==
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:I'm about to craft some of my handshake chem sets. I have two clean ones but I'd rather not craft them and use my partial ones instead. One of these partial ones requires 198. I am thinking I can show a clean one, open it, fill in the first page (drag half, double click half) then do a fade cut where I've swapped to the 198 one on the last page with all the other pages filled in and actually craft that one instead. Within the crafting window there would not be any difference since the input page count for both is 17, there is just 6 on the last page instead of 8 but you would not notice this unless you did the math. If this is acceptable, do you want me to showcase the 4 pages of handshakes required for crafting it or just the 1st page with the chem set and 49 shakes? [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 03:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
  
== {{icon item|Carious Chameleon|16px}} [[Carious Chameleon]] ==
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::A demonstration would have to show each individual one being dragged in. However, if you can smoothly transition the clips in a way that makes it seem like all were filled in on the same one and there's no difference, then that would be fine too, as long as the illusion of it being one chemistry set is there.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:35 PM 2/15/2014 (PDT)}}
 
::No .dem for this because the clips are rendered using Tux's .dem demo clips , just changed the tux item name to Carious Chameleon at the tf_english.txt [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 11:09 PM 2/17/2014 (PDT)
 
:::http://youtu.be/JEsKbJ2DUGw [https://www.mediafire.com/?q3a1g43qyn2b52o Download Link] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:55 AM 2/19/2014 (PDT)
 
::::All good, thanks~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
  
== {{icon item|Ein|16px}} [[Ein]] ==
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:::Double click doesn't even work, don't know why I thought it did. Will probably get to this in 2 weeks after my finals. [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 11:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
I can lend Item...  
 
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Badmedic|Badmedic]]''' ([[User talk:Badmedic|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Badmedic|contribs]]) 15:20, 12 February 2014</small>
 
  
== {{icon item|Guano|16px}} [[Guano]] ==
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::::Example of transition previously described https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ROeqQWSgU Would obviously craft in the real thing and hover over the item in my first page. [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 05:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
  
== {{icon item|Ivan The Inedible|16px}} [[Ivan The Inedible]] ==
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:::::Double click [https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Source-1-Games/issues/5216 indeed does not work]. However, I think you should show every single one being filled in. I get you want to use your mostly-crafted one already, but I think the way to go here would be to try and transition mid-craft, rather than fading like that. This way, it requires a precise setup and some editing, but it can be done.
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:::::For this reason, I think you should try and get the transition approved first. The way I would do this is film the backpack + dragging in, then at a certain page (preferably one where you need to click on the next page of Handshakes as you're filling it out) you stop. Then you take your partially-filled one, record yourself with the exact same mouse position (you can do this using autoclicker, for example, which has a built-in "click at location" button) clicking to the next page of Handshakes, then once you've finished putting them all in drag your mouse off-screen and wait ~0.5 seconds. This way, you can simply do the actual crafting part afterwards, once we approve this transition.
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:::::If done right, this should look like one seamless take, but not use your other clean chemistry sets.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 00:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
  
== {{icon item|Larval Lid|16px}} [[Larval Lid]] ==
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:::::: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlDW77LISq0 Transition is between 39s and 42s [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 09:06, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
  
== {{icon item|Lieutenant Bites the Dust|16px}} [[Lieutenant Bites the Dust]] ==
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:::::::Looks good, though the video lags a bit around that time as well, so it would have to be re-recorded.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:49, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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== {{icon item|Lieutenant Bites|16px}} [[Lieutenant Bites]] ==
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== {{icon item|Li'l Snaggletooth|16px}} [[Li'l Snaggletooth]] ==
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Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
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<br>Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
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<br>It seems that the process is mostly the same as the [[Gift Wrap]], but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
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: Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:::If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it. <br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
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:I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the [https://steamcdn-a.akamaihd.net/steamcommunity/public/images/avatars/c7/c718b0c234a3f5ff5fc8f0b99c3f64f0de4ccefe_full.jpg Scout avatar] (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use [https://i.imgur.com/bBLbzuP.png this]. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
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::Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
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::<br> well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-game[[User:Jomarcenter|Jomarcenter]] ([[User talk:Jomarcenter|talk]]) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
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::::That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::: I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two '''accounts''' would be okay to reuse right?) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::::Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::<br> I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
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::: The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
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::::No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
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I guess I should give an update on this. I'm still up for doing this one. The plan was to do it with Cheddar but currently a lot of the community wanted to boycott spending money on the game because of the bot situation so Cheddar wanted to delay this until....idk when. Valve just banned the majority of the bots and new bot hosting accounts are getting banned as they're being created so I think now is as good as time as any to do this demo. But I can't do it by myself so I need to talk with Cheddar_ and see if he's still available for it or I need an assistant who's willing to help with it. [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 11:17, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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:I get that you don't agree with the decision but the sassy "delayed until Idk I guess" comments are pretty annoying. No one can see in the future as to when stuff like this will cool down. If I say something like "do it in a week" and it's still an issue in a week, you would've been upset too.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 11:59, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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:: I'm not trying to be sassy. I'm not complaining. Sorry if it comes off that way. That's not my intention. It's just been nearly two full months with zero communication about the status of the demonstration. Reservations are technically only valid for two weeks so I simply wanted to make sure that everyone knew that I was still planning to do it. [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 12:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
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:::I could be of assistance.  It seems that all of the bots are gone, so might as well do it now before anything else happens again.
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:Quality Test Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtmRRRQZlH0&feature=youtu.be [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 13:27, 1 June 2013 (PDT)
 
::looks good enough [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:18  ,  6/2/2013 (PDT)
 
:::Ok, also, just want to inform you that I might take a while, I have exams until Thursday.[[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 08:22, 4 June 2013 (PDT)
 
:::You forgot to install the HUD modification file for yellow damage numbers — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:18, 10 June 2013 (PDT)
 
::Sorry I haven't finished it, I came back from a vacation just a day or two ago. [[User:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|Scoot-teh-Destroyer]] ([[User talk:Scoot-teh-Destroyer|talk]]) 19:18, 3 July 2013 (PDT)
 
  
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Here is the finished product of the demonstration. Tell me what you think! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqd0m2q68Fc&feature=youtu.be - If this meets the criteria I'm saying now that I recorded it with fraps, not source recorder so I will not have any .dem files. However I will be using srcdemo2 from now on. [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 03:52, 15 February 2014 (PST)
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:Sorry, but you need a .dem anyway. It's a hard requirement now (although some people conveniently "forget" to upload them...). You can record a .dem and with Fraps at the same time, since recording a .dem requires pretty much zero system resources. The quality is fine, although the colors seem a bit faded. Check if you don't have any unecessary colorspace conversion somewhere on your video rendering pipeline. The actual demonstration is good too. Try to see if you can fix the color issue, but it's not a big deal if you can't. Just redo the same thing (but recording a .dem along this time) and this should be alright — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
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I would say it is a little bit too fast, but this is just my opinion, let the moderators decide.<br>[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 17:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
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:Looks good. Thanks · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 20:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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:: I redid the video with new footage of the demonstration and using srcdemo2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3MGAH8l42I&feature=youtu.be [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 04:26, 17 February 2014 (PST)
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:::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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The transitions between classes need a little work. You can see the inventory including the other taunts like Conga and Killer Joke when you first click on the taunt for a couple frames. For the outro I usually fade out the game audio so the ambient noise fades as the screen fades out. Other than that I think it looks good but I'm not a mod or anything just my two cents. Also, I would probably wait for the taunt to be tradable just so the text isn't on there. [[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''Mediarch'''}}]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ff66cc| ♥ }}]][[User talk:Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''Talk'''}}]][[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ff66cc| ♥ }}]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''My Edits'''}}]] 22:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
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:Looks good now. Thanks · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 22:01, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:Good gravy, I never thought that putting together the video would be this annoying. My biggest problem is kicking my friendly bots after I'm done with them.
 
:(Yeah, probably should just changelevel, didn't think about that.)
 
:[[User:Terryer|Terryer]] ([[User talk:Terryer|talk]]) 12:23, 15 December 2013 (PST)
 
  
:Alright y'all, work is getting the better of me, so I'm dropping the reservation. If anyone wants to pick it back up, go on ahead.
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[[User:Terryer|Terryer]] ([[User talk:Terryer|talk]]) 14:02, 8 January 2014 (PST)
 
  
: Demonstration Video Here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZpEdtXN6uo&feature=youtu.be
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:This is my first demonstration video, and I would like to know if are any errors. Also I have problem with recording the demo, the life bar dissapear, and I cant find my demo file. I've done everything step by step, but I'm missing something... [[User:D3dp0w3r|<span style="font-weight:bold;">D3dp0w3r</span>]]
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::The demonstration is good but the audio isn't. It's either been encoded at a poor bitrate, either it has gone through a low-pass filter to remove all the bass from it (you can compare with the current version if you want). Try to see if that's just your rendering settings (in which case you can just rerender the video; use PCM audio or MP3/AAC with >192kbps for good results) or your capturing settings (in which case you should fix those). The relative volume between the music and the game sounds is also a bit off (music is too loud relatively to the game sound). Use the other videos as reference for what the balance should be. The video and the demonstration content are all good other than that. Thanks~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:31, 20 January 2014 (PST)
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:::Well about the music on the background, I didn't change it, I just drag the music on Sony Vegas, without editing. But I will edit it. Oh and question, this video need spiltscreen? Becouse the weapon have the ability to regent +3hp when activated, and I wanna show how fast you heal. Is that necessary? - [[User:D3dp0w3r|D3dp0w3r]] ([[User talk:D3dp0w3r|talk]]) 01:34, 21 January 2014 (PST)
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::::Yes, it is. But not splitscreen, do in the same way as Cozy Camper. Also you need to show about the time between last hit damage and the healing affect to the healing/sec or not (Like Medi Gun) [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 03:25, 21 January 2014 (PST)
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::::You may not have changed the music's volume but you may have changed the game's volume. The point is that the volume balance is off compared to other videos and you should restore it, whether that means increasing the game audio track's volume or decreasing the music track's volume. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:28, 26 January 2014 (PST)
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:I redone The Demonstartion : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qUXbnna470&feature=youtu.be [[User:D3dp0w3r|D3dp0w3r]] ([[User talk:D3dp0w3r|talk]]) 08:10, 28 January 2014 (PST)
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::The volume is better (although pretty low overall now, you may want to increase the volume for both the in-game audio and the background music) but the audio quality is still the same :( It feels very low-bitrate. Try comparing the audio quality against one of the current demonstrations and your video, the difference should be clear as long as you're not using earbuds or crappy speakers. Please increase the encoding quality of the audio — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:23, 1 February 2014 (PST)
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It needs to be demonstrated with all spy guns, like the [[Roar O'War]] · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 23:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Well I will edit again the sound but you said that the music is low-bitrate. Well I just downloaded like that. I use Sonyvegas and I save the project like a Windows Media Video V11 (.wmv) With the Template of 8mbps HD 1080-30p. I cant find a way of editing it much better... [https://www.mediafire.com/download/7qt1g25vta7aw6q/Demonstration%20Music%20Longer%20Version.rar Link for the Demonstration Musics]. This is where I download the music.[[User:D3dp0w3r|D3dp0w3r]] ([[User talk:D3dp0w3r|talk]]) 23:58, 7 February 2014 (PST)
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:::: I redone it gentelmanns : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5NzWNWI_kc&feature=youtu.be [[User:D3dp0w3r|D3dp0w3r]] ([[User talk:D3dp0w3r|talk]]) 09:38, 19 February 2014 (PST)
 
::::: Audio still sounds like it's being played through a tin can, not sure what's up there. -- [[User:RagnarHomsar|Ragnar Homsar]] - ([[User_talk:RagnarHomsar|Talk]]) 17:44, 20 February 2014 (PST)
 
:::::: Re-Re-Reedited video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOG7CSLjQsQ&feature=youtu.be [[User:D3dp0w3r|D3dp0w3r]] ([[User talk:D3dp0w3r|talk]]) 06:57, 22 February 2014 (PST)
 
:::::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
: Link to MediaFire :  [https://www.mediafire.com/?0e35s3p2f775j4u Download Link]
 
  
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<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Achthenuts|Achthenuts]]''' ([[User talk:Achthenuts|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Achthenuts|contribs]]) 07:55, 26 November 2013</small>
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:[[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 05:13, 26 November 2013 (PST)
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::Remember I just testing, now if I wish how to add backgorund music, splitscreen, etc.
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<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Achthenuts|Achthenuts]]''' ([[User talk:Achthenuts|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Achthenuts|contribs]]) 08:43, 26 November 2013</small>
 
:::Next time, sign your comment with <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, also about splitscreen thing and much more are in the project page, please take some time to read before ask. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 05:47, 26 November 2013 (PST)
 
So is this fine a bit ?...
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW8SvBqbcZg [[User:Achthenuts|Achthenuts]] ([[User talk:Achthenuts|talk]]) 08:09, 29 November 2013 (PST)achthenuts
 
:There are still some issue at your video , What i found is those.
 
:*No Demonstration background music , [https://www.mediafire.com/download/7qt1g25vta7aw6q/Demonstration%20Music%20Longer%20Version.rar Link for the Demonstration Musics]
 
:*Backpack clips should be 4-5 seconds longer.
 
:*Backpack loadout clips Shouldn't be recorded with the (Not usable in Crafting) Stats on your weapon.
 
:*Please show a 6-screens comparison with boost and without boost , [http://youtu.be/fTiuB0xzH2A?t=1m51s Here's an Example]
 
:*do things a bit quickly.
 
:*at 2:26 Spy are visible? if you don't need the spy for your demonstration please kick the spy through the console.
 
:*You need to show if the boost will reduced with falling and rocket jumps [http://youtu.be/fTiuB0xzH2A?t=2m16s Here's an Example]
 
:*in Vegas Pro , 0.15 seconds for your fade is enough.
 
  
That's all , Good Luck! [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:12 PM 11/30/2013 (PDT)
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:"0.15" in Vegas means "0 seconds + 15 frames", which is 0.5 seconds when you are working at 30 frames per second.
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= Need to be redone =
:Anyway:
 
* Small audio glitch at 0:21 (cuts out for a split second)
 
* What Karmacharger said, except the backpack loadout screen one (current duration is fine)
 
* At times, it feels like the scout is stuttering (especially when you start running just after getting some boost)
 
— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:05, 7 December 2013 (PST)
 
  
[[http://youtu.be/tUge5HrbYRs Part 1 can craft]] [[http://youtu.be/sYoKXZg4SzA Part 2]] [[http://youtu.be/rHzIJSuUJco Part 4]] Split screens & BGM will add later.
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== {{Demo Header|Fortified Compound}} ==
[[User:Achthenuts|Achthenuts]] ([[User talk:Achthenuts|talk]]) 07:50, 17 December 2013 (PST)
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{{DemoEntry
:First part: There's a little freeze when you fire the first shot at the pyro. The audio and the video lock up for a split second there
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:Second part: The double jumps are not visible enough. They may seem clear to you because you were the one playing the spacebar, but to the viewer it's not very obvious. Try to use the second jump right when you're starting on the downwards half of the first jump (but early enough that it's clear you're still in the air). This way, the camera movement will make it clear that you double-jumped. Right now you use the two jumps very close to one another, so it just looks like one big jump
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| status = nodemo
:The rest is good. Please make it into a single video~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 13:35, 27 December 2013 (PST)
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| reservation = [[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] 15-10-2024 18:00
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| changes = {{c|Update to use post-Jungle Inferno afterburn damage (4 dmg/tick for 7.5 seconds, previously 3 dmg/tick for 10 seconds).}}
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Sorry I don't have Sony Vegas, but I send this to hope that someone can edit split screen: http://www.mediafire.com/download/uyj3oe51oj8j54a/BFBPart3.rar
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{{DemoEntry|end}}
  
The Part 1, Part 2 & Part 4: http://www.mediafire.com/download/4uxwb1m37ez28bw/BFBPt1Pt2Pt4.rar
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== {{Demo Header|Crusader's Crossbow}} ==
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| changes = {{c|Ubercharge gain rate is reduced in the same way that the Medi Gun's healing (and therefore, Ubercharge build rate) is - it is based on the last time the target was in combat.}}<br>{{c|Does not show that if you try to heal up an enemy Spy, Über is not built.}}<br>{{c|Does not show that if you heal an enemy player through a Pyro's reflect, Über is built.}}
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[[User:Achthenuts|Achthenuts]] ([[User talk:Achthenuts|talk]]) 08:09, 4 January 2014 (PST)achthenuts
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I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. [https://youtu.be/Ssaodg-dl7g Video] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
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:The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
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::[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6asv69_x0o&feature=youtu.be Second try] — [[User:Thedop|Thedop]] ([[User talk:Thedop|talk]]) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
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:::The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
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::::''*sigh*'' Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>(they/them)</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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:::::Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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::::::Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
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::::::: Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
  
:You should try and do the editing on your own, especially if you want to do other demonstrations in the future. It doesn't have to be with Vegas.
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I'm going to at least make an attempt at this since the last discussion regarding the Crossbow demonstration was two years ago. Any advice would be appreciated, since this is my first wiki contribution. (And yes, I know how to edit) [[User:Jk6419|Jk6419]] ([[User talk:Jk6419|talk]]) 02:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
:The offer is still opened though if anyone wants to help — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:35, 5 January 2014 (PST)
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:Due to IRL responsibilities that have recently popped up, I am removing my reservation. My apologies. [[User:Jk6419|Jk6419]] ([[User talk:Jk6419|talk]]) 04:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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{{DemoEntry|end}}
  
:http://youtu.be/0Hi3PtztbVY — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 23:20, 21 February 2014 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Holiday Punch}} ==
::In-game volume isn't what it should be — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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{{DemoEntry
:::http://youtu.be/7im8FUzFVDg — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:28, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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=={{icon item|Bat Outta Hell|16px}} [[Bat Outta Hell]]==
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I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
{{Reservation|- [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 08:25, 2 February 2014 (PST)}}
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:Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
: Sorry guys I've been very busy. I should have this finished soon though. [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 01:21, 18 December 2013 (PST)
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::Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
:: I have removed my reservation due to the fact I am going away for a week. I am VERY close to finishing this demonstration... If Sony Vegas wouldn't keep dying on me. If no one has reserved this when I return I will finish it. [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 02:27, 25 December 2013 (PST)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage}} (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
:::I see no one has reserved this since my last post, so I will finish it.
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::{{c|Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage}}
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]]''' ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Obilisk|contribs]]) </small>
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled}}
:::::Alright guys here is the finished product. Take a look, although I do believe I need to re do some clips, including the Scout and Pyro clip. But tell me what you think! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97gvIoy1p8M&feature=youtu.be
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::* Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
<small>— ''The preceding unsigned comment was added by'' '''[[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]]''' ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Obilisk|contribs]]) </small>
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::* Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
:::::Here's what I found:
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled}}
* No jigglebones, unlike the current demo :(
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::{{c|Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled}}
* Post-taunt transitions are too early. The camera has to return to first-person perspective entirely before the transition begins.
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:: A few other ones that I am unsure about:
* The Demoman clip's video is missing (all black?)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM}} (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
* There is an loud and odd sound at the beginning of the Heavy clip (bodies being dropped on the ground, I'm guessing)
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::{{c|Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits}} [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
* The clip resets at 2:56 (right after the medic's taunt and before the sniper's loadout clip)
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:::The <code>tr_karma_rc1</code> map has water (see [[Sydney Sleeper]] demonstration [https://youtu.be/95qD-3XF8ws?t=132 here]). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). — [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] <sub>({{gender:Exaskliri|he/him|she/her|they/them}})</sub> ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Exaskliri|contribs]]) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
* Not sure why you say you should redo the Scout and Pyro clips, they look fine to me
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:::No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)
[[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 15:35, 5 January 2014 (PST)
 
:: Oh okay. It's just I believed that the transision after the Scout clip was very quick and early. And sure I will fix all of these problems ASAP. Thanks. [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 17:22, 5 January 2014 (PST)
 
:::They are as I noted ("Post-taunt transitions are too early") but this applies to all clips (mostly). You don't need to re-record them though, just need to make the transition happen later — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:24, 7 January 2014 (PST)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwEjJyvImb4 - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 12:43, 8 February 2014 (PST)
 
:Aah, that one just has to have jigglebones. However, you forgot to fire after the demoman taunt to trigger the post-taunt voiceline (see current demo). The framerate is so-so but it's not bad either, so it'll do — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
 
::Completely forgot about that. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KJ1VAEJUsY - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:50, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
:::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
::::https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B4-2Xsrp3Z86eUdXb2QyTUY0bm8&export=download - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:19, 24 February 2014 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Battalion's Backup|16px}} [[Battalion's Backup]]==
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I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:
{{reservation|— [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 07:00, 21 January 2014 (PST)}}
 
:Why do all this have to be redo? [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 12:54  ,  7/11/2013 (PDT)
 
::There was a major balance patch released today. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:57, 10 July 2013 (PDT)
 
  
http://youtu.be/YSuu-jxm1hQ — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 17:58, 25 January 2014 (PST)
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)'''
:Again, avoid reswitching to the BB all the time. It's not necessary and it makes it look like you need to hold it for the effect to stay active — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:28, 26 January 2014 (PST)
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*Do the same actions as was done in the original video
::http://youtu.be/7NBVaZ4gzjk — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 22:31, 28 January 2014 (PST)
 
:::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:23, 1 February 2014 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Beggar's Bazooka|16px}} [[Beggar's Bazooka]]==
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'''Part 2: Basic Interactions'''
{{Reservation|[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 07:22, 16 September 2013 (PDT)}}
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Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.
With the latest map structure, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TztLh8bV9k I chose to approach the ammo demonstration in a more unified manner.] [https://app.box.com/s/razj79e3i1q8nmzj8vbx Download it here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 20:15, 18 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:Switch the reflect clips and the ammo clip.
 
:Unbind your screenshot key when rendering the reflect clips so you don't get the 'take a screenshot!' dropdown thing.
 
:In the overload jump clip, do another one immediately after the first to show that you don't get enough height to chain jumps.
 
:In the other rocket jump clips, try to do a high jump and a long jump with each load.
 
:Nice work on the ammo clip - it's much better than before. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:25, 19 September 2013 (PDT)
 
::[http://youtu.be/wDzaqmBtQzk Hopefully this does it, then.] [https://www.dropbox.com/s/spevapfwvpka174/beggar%20demo%20v2.avi Download it here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 16:12, 22 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::You seem to have duplicate rocket jump clips. The rest of it looks okay to me, but I expect winbd to be back shortly, and he may have other opinions. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 17:43, 22 September 2013 (PDT)
 
::::Odd... [http://youtu.be/xNJJMLjmfYg it seems to be fixed now.] [http://youtu.be/xNJJMLjmfYg Download it here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 22:30, 22 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::I just realized that you never actually kill yourself using overload in that. After you kill the pyro with the overload explosions, let the last rocket off and then fill up one last time to show that. Other than that, it's good. Sorry for the back and forth on this one. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:17, 24 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::It's fine, [http://youtu.be/E4tEG9Gv_Vg I just hope that with this, it covers ALL basis this time.] [https://www.dropbox.com/s/u69bhk89h07k0z5/beggar%20demo%20v4.avi Download it here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 18:51, 25 September 2013 (PDT)
 
::::::Uploading. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 22:43, 25 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::::Need to redo , now it use the same taunt as Direct Hit. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 10:20 PM 12/28/2013 (PDT)
 
I will finish the demonstration this week (because of the updates, I can't use the older .dem files due to them being corrupted.) --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 17:52, 19 January 2014 (PST)
 
: [http://youtu.be/tnoPvYmCFi8 And this should hopefully do it.] [https://app.box.com/s/ulpw9zop3s1aopnrv7l9 Download it here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 17:33, 20 January 2014 (PST)
 
::Like the previous demo and as said earlier, it should show that you can kill yourself with it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:28, 26 January 2014 (PST)
 
:::If that's the only case, [http://youtu.be/5Klu1ld9880 then this version should just about do it.] [https://app.box.com/s/978te37jzr6px5dg6r1n Download it here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 13:23, 5 February 2014 (PST)
 
Scratch that one; [http://youtu.be/uewbQM4Uxec this version reflects the recent update.] [https://app.box.com/s/ou4dthq3g5iuy7bsi6il Download it here.] --[[User:Akuago220|Akuago220, The Jungle Expeditioner]] ([[User talk:Akuago220|talk]]) 15:54, 8 February 2014 (PST)
 
:All good, thanks~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Black Box|16px}} [[Black Box]]==
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'''Part 2a:'''
{{reservation|— [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:28, 26 January 2014 (PST)}}
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# Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
:I need help on the Pyro reflecting the rocket back to the Soldier for the health and kill. Also, I can not make a server for us to be in. -[[User:WDZOrangeJuice|WDZOrangeJuice]] ([[User talk:WDZOrangeJuice|talk]]) 14:00, 23 July 2013 (PDT)
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# Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
::You can use <code>bot_forceattack2 1</code> to force the pyro to airblast instead of spraying flame. If that doesn't work, you'll have to find someone willing to host a server to run that map for you - I'm not aware of any. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 14:29, 23 July 2013 (PDT)
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# Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
:::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNP-00qnwsA&feature=youtu.be (won't work because of redo) -[[User:WDZOrangeJuice|WDZOrangeJuice]] ([[User talk:WDZOrangeJuice|talk]]) 20:36, 28 July 2013 (PDT)
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# Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies
::::You've got some technical issues to correct here. You aren't recording at a 16:9 resolution, you're using custom fonts, and you seem to be having framerate issues in a couple places. There are also a few content problems, but you need to solve the technical ones first. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:00, 28 July 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::The custom font was included with the demonstration.vpk, and my computer is a bit weak, so I think that is causing the frame rate issues. -[[User:WDZOrangeJuice|WDZOrangeJuice]] ([[User talk:WDZOrangeJuice|talk]]) 21:46, 28 July 2013 (PDT)
 
::::::Apologies - demostration.vpk had picked up some extra cruft, and one of the patches must've broken it. There's a fixed version available from on the main page now. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:53, 28 July 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::::I'm going to skip this one. My computer is too weak to make the demonstration. -[[User:WDZOrangeJuice|WDZOrangeJuice]] ([[User talk:WDZOrangeJuice|talk]]) 21:06, 2 August 2013 (PDT)
 
:http://youtu.be/PqT2q84AAhA The pyro airblast clip i just did a little mistake , i didn't refill the pyro's flamethrower clip (180). So is it acceptable? [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:21 PM 9/15/2013 (PDT)
 
::You'll need to re-record the airblast clip so the pyro has 200 ammo. Other than that, it looks fine. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:38, 15 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::apologize , i feel so bad for taking it forever , i'm going to quit this one due to some random source recorder bugs. Which is making me can't process it. but anyway let me explain what happened , The last clip (Red black box soldier) when i play the new demo file. There is no explosive particle effect when i fire at the blu pyro and i've tried re-record like 5 times still unfortunately. Also vegas pro crash randomly without a reason or New errors and some more stuffs. just be honestly i don't really have a time to deal with all this. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:09 PM 9/21/2013 (PDT)
 
::::It looks like you're having a lot of random crashes and other bugs lately :( Maybe Vegas is running out of RAM? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:29, 29 September 2013 (PDT)
 
Black box demonstration update?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcXgh9ACWDY&feature=youtu.be -[[User:Puzzlemaster|Puzzlemaster]] ([[User talk:Puzzlemaster|talk]]) 20:33, 2 December 2013 (PDT)
 
:Okay, you have a lot to do here:
 
* Don't use DirectX 8 mode
 
* No background music
 
* No HD
 
* Framerate is much lower than 30fps
 
* Not sure if there's antialiasing, can't tell at that resolution
 
* Need a transition between the clips (and more waiting time before and after the transition)
 
* Enemy rocket launcher sounds wrong
 
* Taunt should be in the first clip
 
* Missing/wrong clips; check the current version of the demonstration — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:05, 7 December 2013 (PST)
 
  
http://youtu.be/H4nG0IxX-JM — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 22:31, 28 January 2014 (PST)
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'''Part 2b:'''
:Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:23, 1 February 2014 (PST)
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# Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
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# Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
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# Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
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# Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
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# Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated
  
=={{icon item|Buff Banner|16px}} [[Buff Banner]]==
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'''Part 2c:'''
{{c|New HUD Mini-crit icon}} --[[User:Uknownada|Uknownada]] 00:53, 20 April 2013 (PDT)
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a <s>friendly</s> enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
:Useful if true (I didn't even know), but pretty hard to demonstrate on video. Should be redone if someone can think of a way to demonstrate this clearly — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:00, 25 April 2013 (PDT)
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# Attack the Scout from the front and behind
::Here's one possible way: Have a mini-video inset that shows someone's hand operating the mouse, and them clicking and releasing the button. It can be live-action or animated. [[User:Dogman15|Dogman15]] 00:17, 26 April 2013 (PDT)
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# Enemy Medic activate Medi Gun invulnerability
:::Let's not do a live-action one, but animated would work, as long as it doesn't include any text — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:56, 2 May 2013 (PDT)
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# Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
It won't be that hard. I actually learned it from watching TF2 videos. Just hold down the mouse button, and the horn stays on your screen. An example is minute 5:25 in [http://youtu.be/4fBuIA8htGQ?t=5m25s this video].--[[User:Uknownada|Uknownada]] 21:08, 26 April 2013 (PDT)
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# Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic
:I'm not sure if that's obvious enough, really. If you don't know what is going on, it feels like the buff banner is just being glitchy for a while — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:56, 2 May 2013 (PDT)
 
::Maybe there could be a splitscreen with text in the top of each screen (similar to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP6DSYOnCFM this video] at 0:12). One screen would show the normal activation of the Buff Banner with "clicking the mouse button" in the top, and the other would show the Soldier holding the horn and walking around with it with "holding down the mouse button" in the top. That's really the only way I can think of to clearly demonstrate it. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 07:42, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
 
:::Let's go with that, but perhaps using icons [http://wiki.thedarkmod.com/index.php?title=File:Left_mouse_button_2d.png like these except less phallic and more public domain]. Could be used on both screens, staying there for both clips but with the button turning red when pressed on either screen. It's better to use icons than text when possible so that articles in other languages can use it as well — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:18, 6 May 2013 (PDT)
 
  
I really don't think it's a glitch. The Banner has always been able to do that. The Battalion's Backup and Concheror do the same thing (I didn't request those because I wanted this to be approved first). I'm sure you can be able to know what's going on.--[[User:Uknownada|Uknownada]] 23:34, 3 May 2013 (PDT)
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'''Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy'''
:I'm not saying it's a glitch, I'm saying it looks like a glitch to a viewer who doesn't know what is happening — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:18, 6 May 2013 (PDT)
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# Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
::I see. Okay, then.--[[User:Uknownada|Uknownada]] 15:44, 7 May 2013 (PDT)
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# Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
This needs to be redone anyway cause of the new "Mini Crit" on the Hud to show that you are buffed. [[User:InstantMan|InstantMan]] ([[User talk:InstantMan|talk]]) 03:45, 15 August 2013 (PDT)
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
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# Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
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# Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
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# Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
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# Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
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# '''(This is where the new stuff begins)''' Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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# Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
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# Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  
=={{icon item|Cleaner's Carbine|16px}} [[Cleaner's Carbine]]==
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'''Part 4: Spy Interactions'''
{{reservation|— [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 10:42, 7 February 2014 (PST)}}
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View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.
:http://youtu.be/fpUAmG_0DfQ — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 13:55, 7 February 2014 (PST)
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# Approach the enemy Spy
::Why the Sniper Rifle has the effect like when shoot with Machina? (I tested in game, that's not happened) [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 05:04, 8 February 2014‎ (PST)
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# Let the enemy Spy cloak
:::http://youtu.be/HOM9bPvXdro It happens if you critboost a sniper rifle while recording a demo and you don't change the rifle out after starting the demo. It's a known bug, I just forgot to account for it. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 08:26, 8 February 2014 (PST)
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
::::There's a huge difference in game audio level between the two clips. Rest is good — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
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# Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
:::::http://youtu.be/8MO_PNrx3Ys — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 17:21, 19 February 2014 (PST)
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# Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
::::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
  
==[[Image:Red Mini Sentry.png|16px]] [[Combat Mini-Sentry Gun]]==
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'''Part 5: Taunts and Water'''
I have a suggestion on showing the build speed difference between a mini that's freshly built vs one that's already built but being redeployed. Maybe the same can be done to the normal sentry, but level one only. -SwordM13X24
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# Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
:I suppose it makes sense but for the mini-sentry only, as it has the property that its building speed is not increased by hitting it with the Gunslinger. The other buildings behave all the same so there's no need to show it for them — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:29, 29 September 2013 (PDT)
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# While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
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# Repeat Steps 1 and 2 except attack him from the front.
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# The enemy Engineer runs to the water. Follow him into the water.
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# Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  
=={{icon item|Cozy Camper|16px}} [[Cozy Camper]]==
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'''Part 6: Robots'''
{{reservation|— [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:32, 26 February 2014 (PST)}}
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# Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
:http://youtu.be/cKRLPgd-EvQ — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:55, 10 July 2013 (PDT)
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# Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.
::I feel like the regen clip should come before the comparison clips--I felt like I got confused about what weapon we were talking about by the end. [[User:Darkid|<span style="color:red">Darkid</span>]] ([[Image:Item icon Grenadier Helm.png|21px|link=User_talk:Darkid|Talk]]|[[Image:Item icon Burning Bongos.png|21px|link=Special:Contributions/Darkid|Contribs]]) 21:27, 14 July 2013 (PDT)
 
:::http://youtu.be/wkcYBqoNudg You think so? The regen clip is really long and boring, which is why I put it at the end. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 12:33, 15 July 2013 (PDT)
 
::::I think it's fine like it is; I think it's indeed better to put such a long clip at the end. - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 10:45, 23 July 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::It needs to redone again due October 29th Patch changed from 2 hp per 2 seconds to 1 hp per second for real. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 22:10, 31 December 2013 (PST)
 
  
http://youtu.be/lZm5dldMwFs — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:41, 27 February 2014 (PST)
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<s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</s> <s>[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 02:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC)</s> [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 10:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
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:Very detailed, nice. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
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::By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all [[Schadenfreude]] taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation.  [[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
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:::Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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::::On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
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=={{icon item|Crit-a-Cola|16px}} [[Crit-a-Cola]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Power Up Canteen}} ==
{{Reservation|— [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 23:20, 21 February 2014 (PST)}}
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{{DemoEntry
:http://youtu.be/LbUHG72eLik — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 23:20, 21 February 2014 (PST)
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| begin
::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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| status = nodemo
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| reservation =
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| changes = {{c|doesn't show Canteen Specialist upgrades like Battery Canteens demo does}}
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=={{icon item|Dead Ringer|16px}} [[Dead Ringer]]==
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I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? [[User:Kaezle|Kaezle]] ([[User talk:Kaezle|talk]]) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
At the old video's 2:50 timecode to show the damage resistance wears off after it's initial cloak without regenerating it's energy, I think it would be a lot more fair comparison if the Spy also got himself a health pack. -SwordM13X24
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: If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. [[User:Naleksuh|Naleksuh]] ([[User talk:Naleksuh|talk]]) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
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::I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
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{{DemoEntry|end}}
  
I reserve this as im just about to do it [[User:Theattackcorgi|Theattackcorgi]] ([[User talk:Theattackcorgi|talk]]) 13:54, 24 October 2013 (PDT) -Corgi
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== {{Demo Header|Chargin' Targe}}, {{Demo Header|Tide Turner}}, and {{Demo Header|Splendid Screen}} ==
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| status = review needed
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| reservation = [[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 13:01, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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| changes = {{c|Should be redone to show that charging with the shields remove debuffs}}
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| video = https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P9-IDAoG6cQU53pGsFpNgGPxK3Di9uP-/view?usp=sharing
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}}
  
=={{icon item|Diamondback|16px}} [[Diamondback]]==
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Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|GrampaSwood]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|talk]]) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
{{reservation|— [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:59, 2 February 2014 (PST)}}
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:{{c|yes}}, the effects that should show are just some of them, not all
I'll try to tackle this one[[User:Boynedmaster|Boynedmaster]] ([[User talk:Boynedmaster|talk]]) 19:30, 14 January 2014 (PST)
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:* Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
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:* Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
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:* Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
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:* Mark for death, from Fan O'War
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:I think those are all. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
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::Yes, that would all be good. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
  
http://youtu.be/WG7101Wk9mo — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 18:03, 5 February 2014 (PST)
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I think the Eyelander clip should probably be synced up better, or go one after another. I think the flame stuff should be done using the Flamethrower instead, as getting killed shows "Pyro carrying Cheddar's", try to also get a clip with a Pyro firing their Flamethrower and you charging through it, showing that if you get hit after the charge starts the debuffs don't get removed. Otherwise, looks good.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 13:41, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
:It's not clear whether or not you would have gotten 2 crits out of the two teleporter parts or not, because you shot one of them with the pistol. It's OK to weaken it with the pistol, but having it deliver the final blow makes it impossible to tell. But it should also be shown what happens if you destroy a building with the pistol as final blow too, so you'll probably need two engineers. [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
 
::http://youtu.be/JYGkgpif9ak — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 17:22, 19 February 2014 (PST)
 
:::I guess that works too. Please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Escape Plan|16px}} [[Escape Plan]]==
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:Looks good, only missing the clip with the mid-charge debuff being applied. You can do this using Jarate too if you find that easier (since it has splash).<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 15:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
{{reservation|— [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 17:30, 23 February 2014 (PST)}}
 
:There's a bug where you can no longer see the Mark for Death particle overhead when you're in thirdperson (either by cheat or taunt). I think this is because of [[September 3, 2013 Patch|a patch]] which removed that particle for local player. Is there anyway for me to show the effect, other than recording under the perspective of another player? --[[User:ThePsycho|ThePsycho]] ([[User talk:ThePsycho|talk]]) 14:33, 7 September 2013 (PDT)
 
::Ok, problem solved. I never thought the method idlers used to get multiple instances of TF2 running would be so useful right now. --[[User:ThePsycho|ThePsycho]] ([[User talk:ThePsycho|talk]]) 12:10, 8 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::Idle accounts are invaluable in demonstrations. Every other enemy or ally you see with a non-stock weapon in a video is another account, since you can't do that with bots. Try to figure out how the [[razorback]] video was recorded if you want to really think. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 13:02, 8 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:http://youtu.be/yHZe__hT7aE
 
:I'm aware of transition fading issue after the mini-crit damage comparison clip so I'll fix that. Let me know if there's any other issues with this video.
 
:Oh, and I know that real accounts are being used for non-stock enemy/ally player. I just want to say that being able to run multiple TF2 at the same time means you don't need another computer or player to help you out. --[[User:ThePsycho|ThePsycho]] ([[User talk:ThePsycho|talk]]) 21:30, 8 September 2013 (PDT)
 
::The largest issue I see with this is the four-way speed comparison clip. Cropping the screens that way looks terrible (and yes, I know that that's what's in the current version) - a 2x2 grid shouldn't need any cropping at all. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to ask you to rerecord all the clips. I thought the 3D HUDs would be a good idea, but they aren't because they don't play nicely with srcdemo2. My apologies. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 23:03, 9 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::Alright, so I don't need to use any spiltscreen HUD and crop the clip at all, just resize it to fit the 2x2 area? --[[User:ThePsycho|ThePsycho]] ([[User talk:ThePsycho|talk]]) 05:07, 10 September 2013 (PDT)
 
::::That's the idea. I'm guessing at good formats here - it might not work, and there may be a better way. If you have an idea, feel free to toss it up. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:06, 10 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::[http://youtu.be/sj3NEiBXMPQ Made a test clip for it]. Seems not working out well because of smaller HUD on the class. Anyone else have any idea on how should I proceed with this? --[[User:ThePsycho|ThePsycho]] ([[User talk:ThePsycho|talk]]) 04:20, 14 September 2013 (PDT)
 
::::::Try using [http://weaponref.wiki.tf/escape_plan_hud.7z this] HUD for that clip. I've enlarged that class icon and health - hopefully it'll show up better. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 09:48, 14 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:http://youtu.be/WPOy623HdYY --[[User:ThePsycho|ThePsycho]] ([[User talk:ThePsycho|talk]]) 19:21, 15 September 2013 (PDT)
 
::In the 4-way clip, you should have full health and 1 health. Try the others at 130 and 60 maybe? — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:38, 15 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::The 4-way clip is to show the speed increase on 4 ranges (10%, 20%, 40% and 60% increased speed) detailed in the weapon's wiki page. As far as I know, there's no speed difference between 40hp and 1hp. I could record and add full health and 1hp clips though so it's a proper 6-way clip, if that's ok with you. --[[User:ThePsycho|ThePsycho]] ([[User talk:ThePsycho|talk]]) 20:48, 15 September 2013 (PDT)
 
::::Please do. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 20:50, 15 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:::::Great, it seems that the speed interval in the [[Escape Plan#Speed|page]] is not entirely correct. Just found out that I run noticeably faster at 1 HP comparing to 40 HP so I tested it again to find out the real interval.
 
:::::The health range should be: 300-160 HP (0% increased speed/Soldier's base speed), 159-120 HP (10% increased speed), 119-80 HP (20% increased speed), 79-40 HP (40% increased speed), 39-1 HP (60% increased speed). Pretty much only 1 HP off from the original one shown in the table and graph.
 
:::::The 6-way clip still work out fine though. http://youtu.be/sCMGhH72rBg --[[User:ThePsycho|ThePsycho]] ([[User talk:ThePsycho|talk]]) 22:12, 15 September 2013 (PDT)
 
:Don't change the aspect ratio of clips. I've altered the eyelander HUD a little bit to make it work nicely with this - go pull a fresh copy of the splitscreen huds and use that. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:05, 16 September 2013 (PDT)
 
  
:http://youtu.be/-VJ7ei7ElH0 This one managed to turn into a brutally technical monster. I'm not sure how I feel about the 3-way splitscreen to show minicrits - I had to shift the view to the right in order to actually show weapons, but I'm still concerned that it's too busy. [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:31, 25 February 2014 (PST)
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::Looks good, the only thing I would change (if the demo needs other changes) is to have the Jarate in the second Jarate clip be thrown on you mid-way through the charge, rather than at the start (but after you already started charging).<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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:::The fire overlay doesn't appear in the fire clip · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 03:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
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=={{icon item|Gunslinger|16px}} [[Gunslinger]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Quick-Fix}} ==
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:My first proper video. Hope it's okay! http://youtu.be/AMpd0sdksis [[User:UltimentM|UltimentM]] ([[User talk:UltimentM|talk]]) 02:40, 3 August 2013 (PDT)
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::The right side of the splitscreen fades in before the left at 1:24. The two sides should also be switched. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 07:08, 3 August 2013 (PDT)
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http://youtu.be/dsOSGZVBNjE — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 23:31, 5 February 2014 (PST)
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:Looks good and all, but why did this need to be redone again? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
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{{c|What I've done in addition to the existing one (the timestamp in the parentheses are the old/new ones):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=74 1:14]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=84 1:24]) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
:http://youtu.be/5LcNs2Tyzcg[[User:Chickenman456|Chickenman456]] ([[User talk:Chickenman456|talk]]) 22:07, 29 November 2013 (PST)
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=129 2:09]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=159 2:39]) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock [[Medi Gun]], while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and <code>r_cleardecals</code>, so it should look neat.
:Video is private... Can't really see the quality. Secondly, don't think WindPower or Armisael approved it so yeah. [[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 22:35, 29 November 2013 (PST)
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=137 2:17]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=181 3:01]) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=176 2:56]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=227 3:47]) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=206 3:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=257 4:17]) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=233 3:53]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=416 6:56]) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=266 4:26]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=306 5:06]) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock [[Medi Gun]]'s overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
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# ([https://youtu.be/mWbjD7LjtVg?t=286 4:46]/[https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=512 8:32]) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.
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{{c|The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):}}
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=459 7:39]) Demonstrating stock [[Medi Gun]]'s Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
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# ([https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U?t=478 7:58]) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.
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:Yeah, i think i'm going to remake this tommorow and i'll hopefully find a way to make the quality better. (and get rid of those black lines)--[[User:Chickenman456|Chickenman456]] ([[User talk:Chickenman456|talk]]) 13:13, 1 December 2013 (PST)
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:I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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::Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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:# I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
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:# Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
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:# Just finished <s>uploading</s> re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
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::# https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
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::# https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
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:::[[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::: I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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: Just uploaded the fixed version of the [[Quick-Fix]] demonstration video. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
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::This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
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* Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
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* There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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:::You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. [[User:Exaskliri|Exaskliri]] ([[User talk:Exaskliri|talk]]) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
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::::Alright. Can you upload the new version? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
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New version http://youtu.be/S6I30sXpif4 --[[User:Chickenman456|Chickenman456]] ([[User talk:Chickenman456|talk]]) 14:43, 2 December 2013 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Kritzkrieg}} ==
:You need to change the video from private to unlisted. No one else can see it when it's private. [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 06:34, 3 December 2013 (PST)
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I think I'll take this one! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
  
Oh, my bad. Here's a fixed link:  http://youtu.be/RttuUTzLF2c --[[User:Chickenman456|Chickenman456]] ([[User talk:Chickenman456|talk]]) 12:01, 3 December 2013 (PST)
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:Please sign your comments using <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)
: Not sure if I can throw my thoughts into this but I'll do it anyways.
 
* Loadout screen is way to long.
 
* A little slow transition from the Pyro to the Soldier. Same with Soldier to Medic.
 
* Health comparison and Jumps, Right screen is cut off. 
 
[[User:Ashes|Ashes]] ([[User talk:Ashes|talk]]) 13:16, 3 December 2013 (PST)
 
:What Ashes said. Also:
 
* Damage numbers should be yellow (Make sure you have installed the custom HUD files)
 
* There is a small audio bug at 0:34 (audio cuts for a split second)
 
* Split-screen clip is off-center (both halves)
 
* Please don't use blur in transitions, it may look cool but it's inconsistent with the other demonstration videos. A basic fade is fine, and it shouldn't last longer than 0.5 seconds.
 
Thanks~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 18:05, 7 December 2013 (PST)
 
  
http://youtu.be/P5ayYHdCaHY — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 14:41, 29 January 2014 (PST)
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sorry! [[User:Greenfox|Greenfox]] ([[User talk:Greenfox|talk]]) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
:Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:23, 1 February 2014 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Memory Maker|16px}} [[Memory Maker]]==
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:Could anyone give me advice on how to do this demo?  For one thing, [https://youtu.be/PbByxTR2c5s?t=69 this] part of the video isn't possible with the new map, and I am not sure what to do.
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:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF-5rnzQ4j0 [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:45 PM 1/27/2014 (PDT)
 
::The memory maker has a jiggleboned handle, which isn't shown here. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 14:41, 29 January 2014 (PST)
 
::What Armisael said. You had them working in the Unarmed Combat demo so you should be able to get it working here. Rest is good~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:23, 1 February 2014 (PST)
 
:::http://youtu.be/1cKVdmCRH7w [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:05 PM 2/3/2014 (PDT)
 
::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
 
:::::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/a662rjc82wchhkl/Memory+Maker.wmv Download Link] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:08 PM 2/17/2014 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Natascha|16px}} [[Natascha]]==
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::Off the top of my head, you could use the wooden separator near the back of the room. So long as its clear the beam disconnects because something is physically between you and the healing target, it shouldn't matter.<br>[[User:Kibblekip|<font color="7D4071">Kibblekip</font>]] <sup>[[User Talk:Kibblekip|<font color="803020"><b>T</b></font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kibblekip|<font color="256D8D"><b>C</b></font>]]</sup> 01:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
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=={{icon item|Persian Persuader|16px}} [[Persian Persuader]]==
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:::Also, I'm trying to make a script to make the bots move, like in the part where the soldier is Übercharged, for example.
{{c|This weapon uses Saxxy animation, it got update too.}}
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:http://youtu.be/wSl1ujJih3g [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 3:33 PM 2/8/2014 (PDT)
 
::There's no need for the Sentry and Teleporter clips, as the Dispenser clip should be fine by itself. I don't know why the previous demo had them all but whatever. You should however add a clip to show what happens when touching the resupply cabinet. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
 
:::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tbt6P4fjo0 [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:15 PM 2/17/2014 (PDT)
 
::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
:::::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/8c311ss46ho6qo5/Persian+Persuader.wmv Download Link] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 7:51 PM 2/24/2014 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Quick-Fix|16px}} [[Quick-Fix|Quick-Fix]]==
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::::It's easier to just ask someone for help.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:08, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
:Aaaaw!!! This is hilarious! Please do a demo on this super weapon! @_@ [[User:LazorBuster|LazorBuster]] ([[User talk:LazorBuster|talk]]) 08:57, 25 January 2014 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Red-Tape Recorder|16px}} [[Red-Tape Recorder]]==
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:::::I am asking for help.
{{c|Fixed death notice and sapped dispenser not stop healing players}}
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:{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 8:19 PM 2/17/2014 (PDT)}}
 
:If I'm not wrong, Karma talked to me that he'll take a break from doing demo (Last time he said this demo he rendered more than 20 times to got 1 successful video.) [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 22:32, 3 April 2013 (PDT)
 
::Yes sorry about that wind , i'll be back soon. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:28  ,  4/4/2013 (PDT)
 
:::Alright >: — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:29, 6 April 2013 (PDT)
 
::::Just take this demonstration if anyone want to. Because i got a job in real life so might not have that much time to do videos for a while. [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:34  ,  4/8/2013 (PDT)
 
:::::Alright, and congratulations on the job :3 — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:55, 11 April 2013 (PDT)
 
:I hope I'm allowed to do this then. Third time lucky... [[User:TFHK|TFHK]] 11:37, 14 May 2013 (PDT)
 
::I'm currently working on this demonstration. However, I've noticed a few differences between my trials and in the video that's currently in use, namely the first part:
 
::*The teleporter that's shot (i.e. the one with lower health) doesn't make a sound when returning to toolbox state, and, strangely, neither does the other one.
 
::*The dispenser doesn't give a "used" red-tape upon being destroyed and returned to toolbox state.
 
::Is there any reason for this? There's practically no difference between my set-up and the one in the current video, apart from the fact that an engineer is standing next to the dispenser (to show that the sapper stops supplying metal/healing after being sapped) [[User:TFHK|TFHK]] 10:30, 15 May 2013 (PDT)
 
:::If this happens consistently, then leave it like this — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:10, 23 May 2013 (PDT)
 
::::http://youtu.be/AVGJ515Ij0M [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 9:49 PM 2/24/2014 (PDT)
 
  
=={{icon item|Rescue Ranger|16px}} [[Rescue Ranger]]==
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::::::I believe they mean asking someone to join the server to make some clips easier to get.<br>[[User:Kibblekip|<font color="7D4071">Kibblekip</font>]] <sup>[[User Talk:Kibblekip|<font color="803020"><b>T</b></font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kibblekip|<font color="256D8D"><b>C</b></font>]]</sup> 05:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
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:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLOpSjWEXRs Just a heads up beforehand: there was an odd glitch when I was recording the split screen footage where every time I would move the health.vpk into my custom folder, the font would change on my HUD.  I recorded that footage twice, and that glitch happened both times.  I don't know what to do about it.  I hope it's not too much of an issue, and I hope the rest of the video is to everyone's liking as well. [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 13:51, 13 October 2013 (PDT)
 
::Good demonstration, but you need more intro time on some clips. To the viewer seeing this setup for the first time, it's not obvious what buildings you have and where enemies are, etc. Take a moment at the beginning of the non-obvious clips to look around and point at things, especially the second clip and the clip with the friendly engineer's buildings. (Also don't wrench buildings when unpacking them or at least not during the upgrade cycles when it goes "ding")
 
  
The doesn't-resupply-ammo thing can be shown better by:
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:What map should I use to demonstrate capping the points?
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* Make a level 1 sentry (level 1 preferably because the fire rate is slower so it kills more slowly and it's more obvious when it resumes firing)
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::Every other Medi Gun demonstration uses Badlands, so just use that.
* Start recording
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::'''EDIT''': Clarification, [[Badlands (Control Point)]] specifically should be used, not the KOTH version.<br>[[User:Kibblekip|<font color="7D4071">Kibblekip</font>]] <sup>[[User Talk:Kibblekip|<font color="803020"><b>T</b></font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kibblekip|<font color="256D8D"><b>C</b></font>]]</sup> 12:57, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
* Use the wrangler to put it almost out of ammo (you won't need the secondary weapon during the whole clip so it's OK to have it equipped since it won't be shown on video)
 
* Spawn a soldier in range (while still holding the sentry's fire away from it with the wrangler) using a key bound to bot and bot_teleport
 
* Change your aim such that the sentry is facing 180 degrees away from the soldier (to give you the most leeway when editing later)
 
* Switch to primary and change your aim to a good camera angle before the sentry finishes rotating towards the soldier
 
* The sentry will rotate and then run out of ammo before killing the soldier
 
* Try to to resupply it with the shotgun, sentry doesn't get refilled
 
* Hit it with the wrench, sentry gets refilled
 
* Show the soldier dying
 
* End recording
 
* In post, cut the beginning until the "Switch to primary" step (the clip should start with the shotgun equipped and having already completed equip animation, and the wrangler shield should have disappeared, but the sentry may not have rotated fully yet which gives some "intro time" before the soldier gets shot at)
 
  
The font issue is pretty odd. Did you do hud_reloadscheme before recording? Try various hud_ or ui_ commands and see if you can find something that works. Also try installing the TF2 fonts as system-wide fonts, I have no idea whether or not that can help or if it has anything to do with this but it can't hurt (and you get cool fonts to use in photoshop or whatever). You should also make the soldier not run out of ammo during the split-screen clip (leftmost soldier can be seen reloading). Hope this helps~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:31, 13 October 2013 (PDT)
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:Thank you.  I'm glad you liked most of it.  I actually did exactly what you said for the second clip, but I cut out most of the "pointing out" stuff because I thought the video was running kind of long and I guess I just assumed that people would understand that I was healing my own buildings.  But you're right, I should take people completely unfamiliar with the set-up into consideration.  You're also right about the sentry ammo part, and I think I know how I'm gonna go about it differently.  I'll do what I can about the HUD, and thanks for the suggestions. :) [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 15:11, 13 October 2013 (PDT)
 
::The font issue is actually my fault - when I put together the splitscreen files, I forgot to remove the .ttf files that TF2 automatically adds to those folders. I've uploaded a fixed version (downloaded in the same place). Apologies — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 15:40, 13 October 2013 (PDT)
 
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDLyeVFnM24 Alright, I went ahead and re-edited the video.  I hope I addressed your points satisfactorily. [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 21:36, 13 October 2013 (PDT)
 
::^Is this good guys? [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 16:33, 14 October 2013 (PDT)
 
::Yo guys, do I upload or not? [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 13:25, 16 October 2013 (PDT)
 
:::Ok, you rushed much. I'll say what I see...
 
:::*You didn't show that the Mark for death also apply to normal pickup until the 3 ways-splitscreen (And yes, you show only for Wrench. Maybe pistol too if necessary).
 
:::*Soldier locations are really weird, why don't you put them on the ground? Also about range repair part, I don't think it's necessary to use 2 soldiers. Only 1 is enough, just use command to face the bot to another building.
 
:::*The Teleporters part, why don't you put in nearby? So we can check that the both side will not repair after shot at one side? Also, no need to repair another side of teleporters, we just need to show about how it repairs.
 
:::*The ammo restore part, I suggest to pick the sentry already then deploy it, not carry it with its ability.
 
:::*Seem to be little lag at 3:13
 
:::Also, first world problem. Custom crosschair...
 
:::[[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 17:08, 16 October 2013 (PDT)
 
  
:::You can ignore what Hinaomi said about mark for death (That's what the 3-way splitscreen is for. No need to demonstrate it earlier.). Soldier locations are weird but it's not a huge deal. Using 2 soldiers is alright as well. No significant lag at 3:13 for me, the rocket seems to pause in mid-air for a bit but it's barely noticeable so it's alright. Custom crosshair needs to be fixed though, you can probably fix it by just re-rendering your .dem files with fixed crosshair settings so that you don't have to redo everything — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 16:42, 27 October 2013 (PDT)
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== Trading demonstration ==
::::If I don't have to re-record anything that's good.  How exactly do I fix the crosshair settings without re-recording though? [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 19:31, 27 October 2013 (PDT)
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:::::Just change your crosshair options back to default and re-render your .dem files. They don't store HUD settings so I guess the new render will have the default crosshair on it — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 22:18, 27 October 2013 (PDT)
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::::::Got it.  I should have the whole thing re-edited by pretty late tonight. [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 21:43, 27 October 2013 (PDT)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxVtFoYEVhI Okay, here's re-edit #3When I was putting back to the default crosshair, I wasn't sure of the exact size and color balance, so I just did my best guess.  I hope this is good enough. [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 00:42, 28 October 2013 (PDT)
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:For one, you aren't using the default crosshair for the rescue ranger. I'm not sure why you're having trouble with this - <code>weaponref.cfg</code> should reset your crosshair to be totally default. Anyways, default settings are all colors all the way up (producing white) and <code>cl_crosshair_scale 32</code>. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 12:59, 1 November 2013 (PDT)
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::Also, you have an achievement displayed on the top left of the HUD. Please hide it. The demo is all good minus those two small HUD details — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:27, 3 November 2013 (PST)
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:::Got itSorry I'm only now getting back to this; life, and all that.  So, do I set the crosshair to default by typing "exec weaponref" into the console? [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 17:44, 8 November 2013 (PST)
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::::It should work, but you should type that all the time regardless — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:17, 10 November 2013 (PST)
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We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.
Sorry it's taking a while guys.  I ran into some technical problems that have caused me to have to rerecord all of my clips.  I'll try to have the whole thing redone by no later than Thursday.  And again, sorry for the delay. :( [[User:MichaelWd|MichaelWd]] ([[User talk:MichaelWd|talk]]) 16:43, 12 November 2013 (PST)
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:Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] ([[User talk:Ashe|talk]]) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
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:I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
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::I think it's necessaryIt's the little things that count anywayIf I could do it, should I record the footage of me verifying the trade on my phone?
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::[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam] [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 03:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
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http://youtu.be/MWx3TPJ0-ko — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 22:17, 3 February 2014 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Teleporters|icon=RED Teleporter.png}} ==
:Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
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I think the current demo is a bit messy, so I'm making a new order:
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First clip (showing basic things, requires 3 people):
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* Build entrance (no speeding up), watch it fully unfold.
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* Build exit (speeding it up). Take Teleporter once it's fully built.
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* Fully upgrade to level 3 using 3 pre-spawned full ammo boxes. Upgrade to Level 2 on the Exit, and upgrade to Level 3 on the Entrance (showing both sides share upgrades).
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* Friendly takes the Tele, enemy player (non-Spy) tries to take the Tele, then an enemy Spy tries to take the Tele (undisguised).
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Second clip:
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* Third screens: left screen shows Tele Entrance being selected from PDA, middle screen shows Tele being selected from PDA, right screen has Tele pre-built and picks it up. All 3 put it down, left stares at it, middle hits it, right stares at it (showing off build speed vs wrench hitting vs redeploying).
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Third clip (requires 2 people):
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* Third screens: Level 1, 2, and 3 from left to right. Shows friendly player getting teleported, then walks back to entrance and waits for another teleport. Do this for 3 teleports in total. Alternatively, we take another 2 people. They stand in a line and take Teleporter as I watch. Tele brings them to an off-screen place, and I (Engineer) stop on it last. Both teammates look at the Engi, say a thank you voice line. The last bit is only for a bit of humour, so I can understand if we just take the first option only.
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Fourth clip:
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* Either a single screen (my preference) or one-third screens: Spy walks on Tele undisguised, gets teleported. Walks back to Entrance, disguises, gets teleported. Walks back to Entrance, takes Disguise off, then cloaks and stands on Tele.
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Fifth clip:
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* Spy saps Tele Exit, stand on Tele (showing no teleporting), remove Sapper, repair Tele (shows both sides get healed at the same time). Switch sides, Spy saps Entrance, remove Sapper.
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Sixth clip:
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* Third screens: Spy saps Tele, wait until it dies. Level 1, 2, and 3 from left to right.
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Seventh clip (requires 2/3 people):
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* Enemy Heavy stands on Tele Exit, I go through (killing him). I walk back in front of Entrance, Medic with Über pops it on patient (who walks on Tele), I go through (killing him). Medic stands on Exit (with Über still), I kill him. If possible, the first Übered player should have respawned by now as a Spy, noclipped out of frame, then walks onto Tele entrance, going through and telefragging me (Engi).
  
=={{icon item|Reserve Shooter|16px}} [[Reserve Shooter]]==
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Optional extra clips:
{{c|Model fixed on pyro}}
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Eureka Effect clip:
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* Half screen: left has stock, right has Eureka Effect. Both build Tele, grab one of the 2 large ammo boxes in front of them, and start upgrading their Teles. Eureka Effect finishes first as it only needs 200, Stock requires 400.
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Setup time clip:
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* Shows extra fast upgrading of Teles.
  
{{Reservation|- [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:57, 26 January 2014 (PST)}}
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If I missed anything, let me know, but this should be all.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 15:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
:The changes only applied to the third person model and they aren't visible in the backpack screen. No need to redo. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 18:11, 12 July 2013 (PDT)
 
::It can be see clearly in backpack screen, I see floating shell and some floating grip of the Reserve Shooter. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 08:01, 15 July 2013 (PDT)
 
:::How did I miss that? — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 12:33, 15 July 2013 (PDT)
 
:Does it mean it's gonna be redone. [[User:InstantMan|InstantMan]] ([[User talk:InstantMan|talk]]) 02:32, 2 August 2013 (PDT)
 
::Eventually, yes. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 07:08, 3 August 2013 (PDT)
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5a9lxrIfhs - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 08:25, 2 February 2014 (PST)
 
:Fantastic, this just got patched, going to have to redo it again :> - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 10:53, 7 February 2014 (PST)
 
::Take two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bqqdRQGGvs - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 11:04, 9 February 2014 (PST)
 
:::Well hey, at least it wasn't uploaded on the official channel and all. All good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
 
::::https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B4-2Xsrp3Z86cmZrVnJLOXhqRW8&export=download - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:50, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|Soda Popper|16px}} [[Soda Popper]]==
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:I think this covers pretty much all there is for teleporters. <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 15:57, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z16AiNkZ-wM Here is the finished product of the demonstration. I believe there was a watermark on the video before but I think it's fixed. If not I can easily render and upload again. Tell me what you think! [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 05:36, 26 February 2014 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Amputator}} ==
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=={{icon item|The Saharan Spy|16px}} [[The Saharan Spy]]==
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I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
{{Reservation|[[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 15:00, 12 February 2014 (PST)}}
 
  
Alright. I have put together a video, however I'm uncertain of the quality of the footage. I'm not sure if it's just my computer and youtube, or if the footage is a bit dodgey, but check it out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIDrP9KMBbE&feature=youtu.be The footage also looks a bit... bare. So I was thinking of adding an additional clip displaying the use of an action item (Such as the directors taunt) and showing that the item set also effects the action slot taunts. But you tell me what you guys think.
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:Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
:Please provide a third-person in-game view like the current demo does. Arguably doing the taunts already does that, but since there's a particle effect during the taunt, it looks (to someone who hasn't read the description) like you always have this effect on rather than only when taunting. The footage looks fine to me quality-wise and content-wise, it could use a smoother framerate but that's not really critical for a straightforward, movement-less demo like this one. Also, the loadout view is way too long; look at the current Saharan Spy demo and use a similar timing as that — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 14:26, 12 January 2014 (PST)
 
  
:: Alright I've started work on the demonstration again. I've been away and unable to work, but I've already started recording the footage again. Should be up soon. [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 15:00, 12 February 2014 (PST)
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:: That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
  
::: Sweet, here is the finished video. Definitely a short demonstration! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiYqNQWz43o&feature=youtu.be [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 03:57, 16 February 2014 (PST)
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:::I'd argue that so long as there is a reasonably larger difference in time between when the Amputator while held reaches full health to the Bonesaw and Medi-Gun clips, even with a minor difference between the latter two the point should get across. Syncing them up would be difficult unless you used a config file to automate the clip upon spawn, as AFAIK Medic regenerates health based on a set timer even while at full health, meaning health can start being restored seemingly inconsistent to when he takes damage.<br>[[User:Kibblekip|Kibblekip]] ([[User talk:Kibblekip|talk]]) 00:26, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
::::Is good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
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::::: Sadly it turns out the footage for the demonstration of the taunts was done on Fraps. I will redo it now using srcdemo2 now though then re-upload the demonstration. [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 23:57, 16 February 2014 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Thermal Thruster}} ==
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This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
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{{DemoEntry|end}}
  
:::::: Here's the footage again. The clip was redone using srcdemo2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi3rD-VWKaE&feature=youtu.be , however I did not redo the spectator view showing the items. Would you like me to redo that using srcdemo2 as well? [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 04:02, 17 February 2014 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Natascha}} ==
:::::::No need for that. All good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]]
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::::::::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/6fjsikzdufdmtq1/Ambassador_finished.avi Download Link] [[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 06:08, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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:::::::::This is the ambassador demonstration file. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 13:39, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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:::::::::: Woops! Obviously copy and paste doesn't like working on my computer. Here's the Saharan spy. [http://www.mediafire.com/download/rede1ocj6j64g78/Saharan+spy_finished.avi Download link][[User:Obilisk|Obilisk]] ([[User talk:Obilisk|talk]]) 00:45, 25 February 2014 (PST)
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=={{icon item|Short Circuit|16px}} [[Short Circuit]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Ubersaw}} ==
{{c|The weapon had its damage changed again as of the [[January_9,_2014_Patch|January 9th Update]] and it's taunt as of the [[January_23,_2014 Patch|January 23rd Update]].}}
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I don't think it's necessary to show the Spy stabbing you during the Über, I would change that to just holding out the Ubersaw and watching it drain. It looks a bit awkward running into the Spy attacking like that. I also can't tell if the video is too low FPS or if it's just Google Drive, so [[User:Ashe|Ashe]] will have to be the judge of that. Other than that, looks good.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 15:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
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:Looks like the FPS is good, I do think the ÜberCharge bit should be changed, however.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:30, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
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Added updated ver. [[User:Myrmxa|Myrmxa]] ([[User talk:Myrmxa|talk]]) 19:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
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:The sound is very quiet. In the first clip, I would wait until the entire ÜberCharge is over before doing the taunt (hold out the Ubersaw to watch the liquid drain). Another clip already shows that you hitting someone mid-ÜberCharge extends the duration.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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{{Reservation|- [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 11:04, 9 February 2014 (PST)}}
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== {{Demo Header|Machina}}, {{Demo Header|Shooting Star}} ==
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| reservation = [[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 15:22, 8 August 2024 (UTC)
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| changes = {{c|Does not show fully charged damage vs stock.}}
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| video = https://drive.google.com/file/d/13gRuCMB48SoDTubbzI04_syOSzdxwACT/view?usp=sharing
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| video-text = Machina
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| video-extra = [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1z5PQoM1oHC1676HDUSMlYvpmuqhBMi7_/view?usp=sharing Shooting Star]
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}}
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Might as well add in the Shooting Star too. If possible, during the fully charged damage segment, show side-by-side that the Machina can't fire while unscoped. [[User:Andreng|Andreng]] ([[User talk:Andreng|talk]]) 13:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
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:Looks good.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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::I'm not convinced to the dmg comparison clip. I think it would be better if you make a comparison with a Demo instead. To make the Machina kill the demo with one shot, try to damage it with one shot of the smg · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 20:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
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{{DemoEntry|end}}
  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrVv8xd1J60 - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:50, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Ap-Sap}}, {{Demo Header|Snack Attack}}, {{Demo Header|Red-Tape Recorder}} ==
:You should show whether or not enemies are hit when you're not directly aiming at them, the same way it does for projectiles — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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| reservation = [[User:Dessensce|Dessensce]] ([[User talk:Dessensce|talk]]) 06:05, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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| changes = {{c|Does not show Sapped Sentry Guns take 33% less damage from the Spy who applied the Sapper.}}
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{{DemoEntry|end}}
  
:http://youtu.be/5dZWVPFmXJI I had started rendering this earlier today, since the reservation had run out, but it didn't quite make it up in time for the review. I've included it here because I feel it shows several other salient points of the weapon's functionality. — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 17:30, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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== {{Demo Header|Battery Canteens}} ==
::Since Uufje still reserved this demo, you'll have to wait until Uufje said you can take over it or he's not fixing his demo after Wind told. Please do the thing in your reservation rather than try to get over another reservation, thank you. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 06:02, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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{{DemoEntry
:::Well, technically my reservation had expired for 2:46 hours when I posted my work. I guess it's up to Wind which one gets used; I'll post my improved version in the meantime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdeu52Gf62Q - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:19, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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::::If you posted the progress of you work, it's technically count that you're still working on it, not drop it. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 14:37, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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| status = nodemo
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| reservation =
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| changes = {{c|Needs Canteen Specialist's time bonus for canteens shown.}}
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| video =  
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=={{icon item|Shortstop|16px}} [[Shortstop]]==
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== {{Demo Header|Classic}} ==
{{Reservation|- [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 11:04, 9 February 2014 (PST)}}
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| begin
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| reservation =
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| changes = {{c|Does not demonstrate damage comparison compared to stock. [Both quickscope and fully charged]}}<br />{{c|Does not demonstrate jumping while scoping.}}
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBQ8E91wwn4 - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:50, 23 February 2014 (PST)
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'''Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)'''
:The healing clip goes too fast because it's been too long since you've been injured so the healing rate is too big. You should add some damaging element (red soldier or whatever) to the scene and have it fire synchronized rockets, then do synchronized healing right afterwards — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:09, 23 February 2014 (PST)
 
::http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZYSwjHmW5w - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:19, 24 February 2014 (PST)
 
  
=={{icon item|The Special Delivery|16px}} [[Special Delivery (item set)|Special Delivery]]==
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Start with the Pyro, Soldier, and Medic, plus the enemy Sniper as shown in [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2tK4HASL-I the current video].
{{Reservation|[[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 6:43 PM 1/20/2014 (PDT)}}
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# Inspect the rifle
:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sShra6UYVQ [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 7:31 PM 1/21/2014 (PDT)
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# Scope the rifle without manually charging. Pause for a few seconds.
::Can you redo fish clip so that it has working jigglebones? — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 19:28, 26 January 2014 (PST)
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# Charge the rifle to full while scoped. Pause for a few seconds.
:::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwcMPmeGYs [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 1:58 PM 1/27/2014 (PDT)
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# Let go of the charge while scoped. The Sniper should make a shot in the process.
::::All good, please upload~ — [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 17:23, 1 February 2014 (PST)
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# Pause for a few seconds and unscope.
:::::[http://www.mediafire.com/download/6s2t57sacd5az4s/Special%20Delivery.rar Download Link] [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 2:44 PM 2/2/2014 (PDT)
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# Charge the rifle to full while unscoped. Pause for a few seconds.
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# Let go of the charge while unscoped. The Sniper should make a shot in the process.
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# Shoot the Pyro with a quickshot bodyshot at the middle of his body, where there is little chance of accidentally hitting the headshot hitbox. Specifically, aim at his middle flame grenade.
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# Move the crosshair to Pyro's head.
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# Shoot the Pyro's head with a quickshot "headshot".
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# Shoot the Pyro's head again, but with a partially charged "headshot".
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# Aim at Soldier's head, and kill him with a fully charged unscoped headshot.
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# Aim at enemy Sniper's head, and kill him with a fully charged scoped headshot
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# Aim at Medic's head, and attack him with a scoped partially charged "headshot"
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# Move the crosshair to Medic's body, specifically slightly to the left of his lower visible button right above his glove.
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# Kill the Medic with a fully charged scoped bodyshot.
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# Aim for the wooden Soldier target with a non-scoped headshot.
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# Aim for the wooden Soldier target with a scoped fully charged headshot.
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# Taunt.
  
=={{icon item|Unarmed Combat|16px}} [[Unarmed Combat]]==
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'''Part 2 – Sniper Movement 1'''
{{Reservation|- [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:50, 23 February 2014 (PST)}}
 
  
Behold the jigglebones in all their glory. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBZS9S7pWGw - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 13:19, 24 February 2014 (PST)
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Three split videos of Sniper, left and middle with Classic, right with Sniper Rifle. This will demonstrate that charging slows down the player.
:What recorder are you using for this? — [[User:Armisael |'''Armisael''']] <small>([[User_talk:Armisael |T]] · [[Special:Contributions/Armisael |C]])</small> 21:32, 26 February 2014 (PST)
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::Why don't you ask me? i'm using mirillis action and recorded in Rectangle Mode [[File:Charger 2.png|20px|]] [[User:Karmacharger|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Karmacharger</span>]] 4:20 PM 2/27/2014 (PDT)
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# Begin charging the middle Classic. Also begin charging the normal Sniper Rifle.
::I used Fraps with vertical sync disabled (the latter is pretty much the trick to avoid the jigglebones going berserk in this weapon) - [[User:Uufje|Uufje]] 08:13, 27 February 2014 (PST)
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# Move forward to the garage door.
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'''Part 3 – Sniper Movement 2'''
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Two split videos of Sniper, both with Classic. This will demonstrate that releasing a charge returns the speed back to normal.
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# Begin charging the right-hand side.
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# For the right-hand camera, release the charged shot by shooting at anywhere in front.
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# Move forward to the garage door, with no charged shots on either of them.
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'''Part 4 – Scope and Cancelling'''
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Be at a tall location, enough for room to jump up and down. When doing the switching of weapons, make sure the weapon switch menu is visible, not just performing a quickswitch.
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# Aim straight.
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# Charge the Classic to full, and then switch to the SMG. Switch back to the Classic.
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# Repeat Step 2 but switch to the Kukri, then back to the Classic.
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# Scope and jump.
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# Unscope the Classic.
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# Charge the Classic and then jump and shoot. The "cancel" noise should play, implying you can't shoot while in mid-air.
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# Charge the Classic to full and then jump and shoot. The "cancel" noise should play, implying you can't shoot while in mid-air.
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# Charge the Classic while scoped and then jump and shoot. The "cancel" noise should play, implying you can't shoot while in mid-air.
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'''Part 5 – Fall, Land, and Shoot'''
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At the bottom of the ground is a Heavy. You will jump down and charge your shot as you fall from mid-air, then shoot the Heavy once you're on the ground.
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# Charge the Classic.
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# Fall while still charging.
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# Shoot at the Heavy while you are on the ground, still with your charged shot ready. If done correctly, Heavy should be able to be dealt more than 50 damage.
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'''Part 6 – Fall and Mid-Air Shoot'''
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At the bottom of the ground is a Heavy. You will jump down and charge your shot as you fall from mid-air, then shoot the Heavy mid-air.
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# Charge the Classic.
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# Fall while still charging.
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# Attempt to shoot at the Heavy while in mid-air. If done correctly, Heavy shouldn't be shot because the bullet was not actually shot.
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'''Part 7 - Damage Comparisons, Non-Charged'''
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Comparisons with shooting a Heavy near the garage door. Have four clips, top is Classic, and bottom is normal Sniper Rifle. Top-left is Classic quickscope bodyshot, top-right is Classic quickscope "headshot", bottom-left is normal Sniper Rifle quickscope bodyshot, and bottom-right is normal Sniper Rifle quickscope "headshot".
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# Start from the "natural" aiming position, and specifically point towards the head if the clip is a quickscope "headshot".
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# Shoot the Heavy off cooldown, with the listed comparisons involved.
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(Heavy is chosen because, unlike the Pyro, the 45 versus 50 damage actually makes a difference to who dies first; Pyro dies in four shots with both rifles for quickscope bodyshots, as opposed to Heavy who dies in 6 with 50 damage and 7 with 45 damage.)
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'''Part 8 - Damage Comparisons, Charged'''
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Comparisons with shooting a Heavy near the garage door. Have four clips, top is Classic, and bottom is normal Sniper Rifle. Top-left is Classic full bodyshot, top-right is Classic full headshot, bottom-left is normal Sniper Rifle full bodyshot, and bottom-right is normal Sniper Rifle full headshot.
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(Heavy is chosen because he is killed with three shots from Classic full bodyshots, but two shots with normal Sniper Rifle full bodyshots.)
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# Scope from all rifles and charge them immediately (or automatically in the case of normal Sniper Rifle)
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# Shoot the Heavy off cooldown, with the listed comparisons involved.
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For the damage comparisons, Medic could also be used, as a normal quickscope bodyshot takes 3 hits to kill him, or 4 with Classic quickscope bodyshots, and for full bodyshots just either 1 or 2 hits. The light classes won't work, neither for the moderately bulky classes like Pyro and Demo. Soldier also doesn't work for the full bodyshot stage, as he dies in 2 shots for both types.
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There's also the interaction with cancelling a charge in water, but not sure if that specific interaction is necessary to demonstrate.
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[[User:Qwertyxp2000|Qwertyxp2000]] ([[User talk:Qwertyxp2000|talk]]) 06:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Reserve Shooter}} ==
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| reservation = [[User:Fisherboy800|Fisherboy800]] ([[User talk:Fisherboy800|talk]]) 23:11, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
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| changes = {{c|Needs to show damage against targets launched airborne via their own explosives, Thermal Thruster and Grappling Hook.}}
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Forgot to add this here after checking the existing demonstration for reference on how best to handle the Direct Hit's airshot clips on tr_karma_wiki, only to see some clips were also absent for this weapon too.
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<br>[[User:Kibblekip|<font color="7D4071">Kibblekip</font>]] <sup>[[User Talk:Kibblekip|<font color="803020"><b>T</b></font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kibblekip|<font color="256D8D"><b>C</b></font>]]</sup> 07:02, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Battin' A Thousand}} ==
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| reservation =
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| changes = {{c|Show the taunt with Scout's different melees similar to the [[Roar O'War]] demonstration.}}
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== {{Demo Header|Southern Hospitality}} ==
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| reservation =
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| changes = {{c|Update to show post-Jungle Inferno afterburn damage.}}
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| video =
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Noticed this while watching the existing demonstration. Currently it shows afterburn inflicts 3 damage per tick (4 with SH), when it is now 4 damage per tick (5 with SH).<br>[[User:Kibblekip|<font color="7D4071">Kibblekip</font>]] <sup>[[User Talk:Kibblekip|<font color="803020"><b>T</b></font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kibblekip|<font color="256D8D"><b>C</b></font>]]</sup> 00:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Invis Watch}}, {{Demo Header|Cloak and Dagger}} ==
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| reservation =
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| changes = {{c|Update to show post-Jungle Inferno afterburn damage.}}
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| video =
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== {{Demo Header|Quäckenbirdt}} ==
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| begin
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| status = nodemo
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| reservation =
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| changes = {{c|Needs to include afterburn time and damage comparison.}}
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While I was checking over the invis watches to see which ones included the updated afterburn damage, I realized this demonstration was missing the comparison entirely.<br>[[User:Kibblekip|<font color="7D4071">Kibblekip</font>]] <sup>[[User Talk:Kibblekip|<font color="803020"><b>T</b></font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Kibblekip|<font color="256D8D"><b>C</b></font>]]</sup> 01:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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== {{Demo Header|Warrior's Spirit}} ==
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| status = nodemo
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| reservation = [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]]
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| changes = {{c|Does not show damage against players vs stock}}
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| video =
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Question, how exactly should I show the damage difference? [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 17:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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:The same way other damage penalty/bonus weapons do.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 17:52, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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::I am still having the bug where my game freezes. Maybe I can’t do this demo after all. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 18:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
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= Other =
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== [[File:Mannpower Powerup King.png|16px|link=Mannpower]] [[Mannpower]] powerups ==
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| reservation =
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| changes = {{c|Demonstrate all powerups.}}<br>{{c|Show you can switch to the Grappling Hook under the effects of the Knockout powerup.}}
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Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with [[Domination|dominations]]), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
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:This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
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* Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
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* Start the demonstration in first-person mode.
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* Switch to third-person mode.
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* Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
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* Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.
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Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".
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Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.
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Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)
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— [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
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:I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. [[User:Po1yb1ank|Po1yb1ank]] ([[User talk:Po1yb1ank|talk]]) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
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== [[File:Heavyhumiliation.png|16px|link=Match outcomes]] [[Match outcomes]] ==
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So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:
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* Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
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** The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
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*** This part would repeat for each class
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* It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
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* After this I would move on to the next class until all of them are done<br>
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However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles? <br>[[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
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::How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
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::''RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video''
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::#BLU player stands beside the intel point
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::#RED player captures the intel and win the game
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::#BLU player enters humiliation
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::#RED player look at the BLU player
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::#BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
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::I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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:Simply using {{code|thirdperson_mayamode}} it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest [[Thunder Mountain]] and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using {{code|mp_bonusroundtime}} to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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::I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead? <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
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:::Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.<br>[[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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::::I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up. <br> [[User:Andrew360|<span style="font-family:TF2 Build; color:#038d3a ">Andrew360</span>]] [[File:Edit_icon.png|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Andrew360]] [[File:Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png|25px|link=User_talk:Andrew360]] 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
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== [[File:Item icon Saxton.png|32px|link=Versus Saxton Hale]] [[Versus Saxton Hale]] ==
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== [[File:Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png|32px|link=Zombie Infection]] [[Zombie Infection]] Zombies ==
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{{DemoEntry
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| reservation = [[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 22:55, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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=Questions and Proposals=
 
=Questions and Proposals=
 
'''Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Weapon_Demonstration#Need_to_be_redone|Need to be Redone]] section above and it will be dealt with.'''
 
'''Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the [[Team_Fortress_Wiki_talk:Weapon_Demonstration#Need_to_be_redone|Need to be Redone]] section above and it will be dealt with.'''
== Mark some of the demonstation as "Urgent"?==
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Some of the demonstration didn't update about 1 year (Like Red-Tape Recorder), I think we should mark some old things that need to be done first due it changed for a long rather than do the recent change items. [[File:User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png|link=User:Hinaomi]] [[User:Hinaomi|Rikka Takanashi]] <small>([[User talk:Hinaomi|talk]]) ([[Special:Contributions/Hinaomi|contributions]])</small> 04:37, 16 February 2014 (PST)
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== [[File:Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png|20px|link=Zombie Infection]] [[Zombie Infection]] Zombies ==
:I think such effort would be better spent marking the demonstrations when they are out of date. Efforts at prioritizing some demonstrations over others haven't been very fruitful in the past, but I don't think it's a huge problem [[User:WindPower|<span style="font-weight:bold;">Wind</span>]] 20:55, 16 February 2014 (PST)
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{{c|Zombies have different abillities than normal players}}.
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Hello, I am Slimyboi500.  I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.
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Why, you may ask?  Unlike normal gamemodes, the [[BLU]] team (or in this case, the zombies), have different [[Zombie_Infection#Zombie_abilities|abillities]] than normal:
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*[[Scout]]: Speed Demon
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*[[Soldier]]: Pounce
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*[[Pyro]]: Hellspawn
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*[[Demoman]]: Blast Charge
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*[[Heavy]]: The Tank
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*[[Engineer]]: EMP Grenade
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*[[Medic]]: Heal
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*[[Sniper]]: Spit
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*[[Spy]]: Reveal
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They also have different effects, like different amounts of [[health]] and [[speed]].  The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.
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Let me know if it's a good idea or not.
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----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities.  I feel like it would be a good idea.  Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
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::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:::It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::::Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
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::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::::::Still, is that a yes on the idea?
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::::::----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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{{Outdent|6}} I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. [[User:Profiteer|Profiteer]] was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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:: I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the [[#Need_to_be_redone|backlog]]...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
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::: I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
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::: ----[[User:Slimyboi500|Slimyboi500]] ([[User talk:Slimyboi500|talk]]) [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px]] 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
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::::Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at least[[User:Profiteer|Profiteer(奸商)the tryhard]] ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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:::::Voting yes for ZI and VSH videos. Videos per zombie for ZI is a good idea. Now, we'll have to wait for the upcoming ZI update, in which I think will be the last one with gameplay changes? · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 23:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
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::::::The only issue is that the maps aren't fitted well for demos, and I can't find out how to turn into zombies on normal maps.  The same goes for VSH too.
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::::::[[File:User Slimyboi500 Logo.png|100px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[File:User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg|25px|link=User:Slimyboi500]] [[User talk:Slimyboi500|Talk]] [[File:Speech voice.png|25px|link=User talk:Slimyboi500]] [[Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500|Contribs]] [[File:Wrench_IMG.png|25px|link=Special:Contributions/Slimyboi500]] [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/ Steam]  [[File:Steam tray.png|25px|link=https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199515551163/]] 00:51, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
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{{Outdent|6}} The VScript would have to be ported over, as well as all the assets. Alternatively, doing all of this on an existing map of those game modes.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 00:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
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== Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH ==
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When Saxton Hale used [[Flippin' Awesome]] or [[Skullcracker]], the other mercenary participating the taunt will be [[VS_Saxton_Hale_Mode#cite_ref-10|taunt killed]], is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --[[User:AlexT|<span style="background:linear-gradient(#D1EEFC, #81F3FD);border:1px #99F3FD solid;color:#007FFF;border-radius:8px">'''Alex'''</span>]]┋[[User talk:AlexT|<span style="color: #FF6600;">'''T'''</span>]] 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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:I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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::Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png|15px|Headphones style when?|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.png|link=User:Gabrielwoj]] ▪ [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png|link=Special:Contribs/Gabrielwoj]] - [[File:User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png|link=User talk:Gabrielwoj]] 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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:::I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=Wiki Cap]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
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== Configs for partner taunt demonstrations ==
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I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] | [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] | [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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== New tr_karma and requirements ==
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I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:
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* Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
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* Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
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* Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
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* Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
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* Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
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* Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB
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The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are [[User:Ashe/Sandbox2|here]]. Check them out and give feedback · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
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== Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event ==
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When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.[[User:Profiteer|<font color="8470FF">Profiteer]] the tryhard ([[User talk:Profiteer|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Profiteer|contribute]])</font> 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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:It works fine on my end.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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::Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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:::@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
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== Question about 2D and 3D player models ==
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A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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: they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. [[User:Mediarch|'''Mediarch''']] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|'''Talk''']][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|'''My Edits''']] 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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::As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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:::Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
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::::I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
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== Mastercomfig question ==
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I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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:Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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::Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. [[User:Scorchshotgaming|Scorchshotgaming]] ([[User talk:Scorchshotgaming|talk]]) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
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== Closed Captions/Subtitles ==
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Random thought today for a low priority task: creating subtitle files to explain what is being demonstrated during the videos. Potentially beneficial for new players; for example, and what made me think of this, during the [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzaDV6NNHXs pomson] video we're shown a spy POV getting hit by the pomson to demonstrate the cloak drain, which is only noticed if the player is looking at the cloak HUD element, which is pretty easy to miss (imo), especially if you're new and have no idea what's going on and are just looking at the engie firing the shot.
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<strike>Looking at [https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2734698?hl=en#zippy=%2Cadvanced-file-formats youtube supported formats] I'd reckon TTML is probably the way to go since it supports positioning (important imo) and styling (not very important imo). I've found [https://github.com/SubtitleEdit/subtitleedit this open source] editor which supports TTML and offers a built in video-from-url import for syncing.</strike> - After messing around for a bit, positioning seems very disconnected between the previews in that app and actually uploading the files to youtube, although once the proper settings are found it should be a breeze to copy paste the templates before submitting, might investigate after finals done next week if I can remember.
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On the admin side of things, seems like it's about 5 clicks to add a subtitle file. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnKOX2PaQZY Subtitle editor permissions] exist so it doesn't have to only be one person officially implementing these (which is what uploads appears to be if I'm not mistaken). Potentially the actual subtitle file contents could be put into this project's page as subpages e.g. [[Weapon Demonstration/Subtitles/Pomson 6000]] [[Weapon Demonstration/Subtitles/Pomson 6000/es]] and then create a category to mark them as ready to upload/update. [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 19:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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:Investigation has been made, a combination of the subtitling software [https://aegisub.org/ aegisub] and a corresponding [https://github.com/arcusmaximus/YTSubConverter converter] app work wonderfully. No positioning nonsense like all the other editors I could find and they offer style + positional templates so everything can be standardized. I've uploaded an [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_7Nhmng61c example] for half of the pomson demo (creating templates and finding the software wore me out too much to finish it rn). 240p bc I have .1kbps upload and can't be arsed waiting to upload HD. [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 06:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
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:: The issue is actually uploading the subtitles. I've actually uploaded subtitles for all intro videos back when we uploaded the zombie infection one and it was such a pain... I took me ''days''. YouTube has a way to bulk upload them, but it seems limited to business accounts, which we are not and can't apply for.
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:: A request that is very frequent, and something that I've done a few times, is adding timestamps for when something happens in a video ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN-cAG3kW2I&lc=Ugzg0JWOWoTusUnnkqJ4AaABAg.9x1ptkjgJ8x9y19le2sD_i c this video] - a commenter asked to add timestamps for each minigun). I think we could do that more often out of courtesy (it actually does help), but not as a requirement for demos. — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 17:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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::: As mentioned, there is a separate permission for subtitles. Seems like you can also upload the subtitles from an [https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/docs/captions/insert API]. Potentially this can be combined with the subtitle page idea and have a bot with a subtitle permission yt account to automatically upload them from the wiki. [[User:Jh34ghu43gu|Jh34ghu43gu]] ([[User talk:Jh34ghu43gu|talk]]) 18:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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::::I personally don't like the idea of describing it with text, as I'm afraid we or the people might get reliant on it, rather than the textless demonstration. Plus, it'll likely become outdated very fast.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 19:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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== Achievement Demonstrations on the official TF Wiki YouTube channel ==
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Weapon demonstrations are very helpful in letting newer players know how a weapon fires or how an unlock's attributes affect standard gameplay, while keeping older players up-to-date on balance changes. But what if we assisted players of all kinds in learning how to earn TF2's 520 [[achievements]]? Introducing [https://www.drive.google.com/drive/u/5/folders/1yN_aq-13yxwwgsZrs0LbnkKCk1f3YZfE Achievement Demonstrations]! ([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJGNf5H5IRU Video])
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=== ''"Why demonstrate achievements?"'' ===
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TF2 has '''hundreds''' of achievements, with many having rather ''vague'' descriptions. Thus, actively attempting to earn them may seem daunting to many players. Demonstration videos would provide clarity and encouragement to both newcomers and achievement hunters alike.
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=== ''"How should achievements be demonstrated?"'' ===
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Any achievements showcased should be earned in intended ways, utilizing simplest methods. [[Strategy#Achievement_strategies|This page]] should serve as a general guide. Weapon unlocks and cosmetics should be avoided unless essential to earning the achievement. General achievements that are earnable by any class should feature the [[Scout]] by default. Demonstrations should be primarily versus [[bots]], though versing another player will be necessary at times.
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* '''''[[Taunts#Kill_taunts|Taunt kill]] and [[Deathcam]]-related achievements:''''' Should feature the victim's Deathcam perspective of the player earning the achievement.
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* '''''Achievements involving performance of a repetitive task over a lengthy period of time:''''' Should be presented with a fade effect representing a time lapse, with only the start and earning of the achievement needed to be shown.
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* '''''[[Achievement_items|Milestone achievements]]:''''' Could be accomplished with either a brief compilation of the prerequisite achievements being earned, or with a simple showing of only the final achievement popup, along with the associated achievement item being claimed from the notifications menu.
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* '''''Achievements requiring Steam friends:''''' These will require alt accounts or coordination amongst contributors.
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* '''''Unobtainable achievements (ie certain [[Replay_achievements|Replay achievements]]):''''' Should be presented with a note informing watchers the achievement is currently unable to be earned.
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* '''''[[Achievements#Joke_achievements|Joke achievements]]:''''' A demonstration should not be necessary for these.
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=== ''"Where should achievements be demonstrated?"'' ===
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Achievements should generally be showcased on tr_karma_wiki, tr_karma_event_wiki, or a variant edited in [[Valve_Hammer_Editor|Hammer]] with altered bot spawn locations.
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* '''''[[Arena]] achievements:''''' arena_karma_wiki.
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* '''''[[Capture the Flag]] achievements:''''' ctf_karma_wiki.
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* '''''[[Control point]] achievements:''''' cp_karma_wiki.
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* '''''[[King of the Hill]] achievements:''''' koth_karma_wiki.
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* '''''[[Mann_vs._Machievements|MvM achievements]]:''''' mvm_karma_wiki. Can utilize custom waves.
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* '''''[[Payload]] achievements:''''' pl_karma_wiki.
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* '''''[[List_of_maps|Map]]-specific achievements:''''' The official map associated with the achievement. MvM maps can utilize custom waves.
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* '''''Event-related achievements:''''' tr_karma_event_wiki or an edited variant.
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* '''''[[Replay]] achievements:''''' Should only use replays taken from one of the maps listed above.
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[[User:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ]] ([[User talk:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|talk]]) 19:43, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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: {{c|con}} My personal vote on this would be a no. I just don't see the need and it would feel spammy. The majority of achievements are pretty self explanitory. The few that are vague are thouroughly explained in the [[Obtaining General achievements|"Obtaining Achievements"]] type pages. This would be a massive ammount of work to produce and aprove all of these for what feels like very little to no gain in my opinion. Producing hundreds of videos explaining basic things feels like a huge waste of energy. I could maybe see an argument for making "official guides" for some of the more convoluted achievements but the wiki definitely shouldn't be making hundreds of videos covering basic stuff like "Destroy 3 teleporter entrances". [[User:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Mediarch'''</font>]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[User talk:Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''Talk'''</font>]][[User:Mediarch|<font color="#ff66cc"> ♥ </font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|<font color="ec5c69">'''My Edits'''</font>]] 20:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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:: Time and energy are non-factors as I am entirely willing to solo produce these if needed. And even basic achievements have their nuances. Per your example, does "Destroy 3 teleporter entrances" include ones that are being constructed? What about ones that are being sapped? Do destruction assists count? Et cetera. [[User:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ]] ([[User talk:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|talk]]) 20:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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:::I've heard that quite a few times about different projects, this is not something you will finish, trust me. I personally don't believe these add much value, some achievements are very self-explanatory, and the how-to is exactly why we have these pages. It's a neat idea, but there's too much that would go into these (including needing to pretty much reset all your achievements each time). If a project is going to be made, it needs to be accessible for everyone, or at least more than a few people willing to reset all their achievements.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 22:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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::::It took only a few hours to make/edit the 5 example videos, the rest of the time I spent working on this project was spent planning and mapping (I had to learn how to use Hammer). Realistically, it would only take a few months for me to complete them all, and that's just with one person working on them. As for resetting achievements, [https://github.com/gibbed/SteamAchievementManager Steam Achievement Manager] is a facilitative way to modify your Steam achievement progress at will. [[User:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ]] ([[User talk:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|talk]]) 23:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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:::::And to refute the idea that a lot of the achievements are ''"too basic,"'' this same logic could apply just as much to any other demonstrations: [[weapons]] can simply be playtested by anyone booting up the game and firing them a few times, [[taunts]] can be freely previewed in the [[Mann Co. Store]], all the [[Cosmetic_item|cosmetic]] videos exist simply to show they can earn assists, and so on. Meanwhile, a great deal of achievements are rather specific or obtuse in how to actually earn them and would greatly benefit from a video demonstration. [[User:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ]] ([[User talk:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|talk]]) 23:43, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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{{Outdent|5}}There is no real refuting here, this is people giving their opinion. The issue is that, yeah, it's possible to do this on your own, but if you're going to have to make 520 videos you're going to give up at some point. As for Steam Achievement Manager, that's an outside program that may or may not be considered a cheat by Valve (at the very least, we don't wanna rely on this program to have to reset specific achievements). Weapons can be playtested, unless you don't have them. Taunts can be previewed in the store, except it doesn't show off M1/M2, and doesn't show off a full taunt (intro, loop, exit). Cosmetic demonstrations aren't being made anymore because they're all the same, so we scrapped them.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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:SAM is moreso a debugging tool than a cheat. I'm certain most people use it to earn bugged achievements that wouldn't activate for them for whatever reason. That argument aside, I am more than willing to continue working on this project if given a greenlight, or in the case the greenlight only comes after a certain trust is built, I'd still be working on it until then. I'll provide updates, including more videos, more maps, thumbnails, etc. The only achievements I might need outside help with are the ones which require multiple Steam friends. [[User:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ]] ([[User talk:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|talk]]) 00:13, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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::It's not much of a debugging tool, but there are in-game features to reset achievements, too, which is what we would use instead. The Wiki being official means if we officially require people to use that program, it's a form of endorsement, which is not something we want. Many achievement demonstrations would also simply not be interesting or very hard to demonstrate (winning 142 rounds of a map, collect 1 million MvM credits/killing 1 million robots, destroying 100 enemy stickybombs with the Scottish Resistance). Some would also not be a proper demonstration: Winning a map without losing a control point on Hydro or winning a round of Well within 5 minutes would just consist of either regular gameplay or an empty server where you run on control points. The former is too much for a demonstration, and the latter is not demonstrating anything. Also note, this is the last message I'll leave here (but I will still watch the conversation) as I don't want the convo being stopped by a constant back-and-forth and possibly have people not engage in the conversation because of it.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 00:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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:::I can see the rationale behind wanting to use the more 'official' means of resetting achievements, and I will aim to utilize that from now on. As far as whether or not an achievement is demonstrated ''"properly,"'' this is entirely subjective, as achievements can be earned in a variety of ways outside the intended/idealistic means; I merely wish to provide an example of the most basic methods which anyone can reliably follow. Whether or not a demonstration is ''"interesting"'' is also subjective. I appreciate the earnest provision of your viewpoints and criticisms, and I too shall disengage from this back-and-forth to allow more opinions to be shared. [[User:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ]] ([[User talk:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|talk]]) 00:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
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:::: I really don't see the issue with using SAM or any other tool to lock/unlock the achievements as needed for the demo... The argument that we'd be endorsing it is quite absurd, this would be behind-the-scenes stuff.
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:::: That said, it is unreasonable to make over 500 videos and some achievements would be hard to demonstrate (progress ones, for example). I wouldn't be against making a "walkthrough" for some very specific achievements like the Merasmus TV one, but that wouldn't really fall under this project (it would just be an addition to the strategy page). — [[User:Tark|<span style="font-weight:bold;color: #5BC236">Tark</span>]] 17:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
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:[https://drive.google.com/drive/u/5/folders/1yN_aq-13yxwwgsZrs0LbnkKCk1f3YZfE I've updated] the Achievement Demonstrations folder with better organization and 50 more demonstrations! This took a little under 2 weeks. All newly-added demonstrations have been listed in '''''changelog.txt'''''. Feel free to give them a glance! (''Note: all future project updates will be addressed via the changelog until project completion.'') [[User:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ]] ([[User talk:$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ|talk]]) 21:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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== Update status on the Team Fortress Classis demonstration project ==
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Some of you here may remember when two years ago, a user by the name of [[User:Anonymus0|@Anonymus0]] decided to make a proposal about doing Weapon Demonstration videos about the Team Fortress Classic weapons. Although the wiki had no such infrastructure to support the newfound idea (Tfc demonstration maps, guidelines, rules etc.) the proposal still received mass support; thus prompting me, as well as a number of other editors, most notably [[User:Yossef|Yossef]], to collaborate together on turning this young idea into reality. However, despite some early success in recording, due to Yossef's family situation coupled with my vanning interest in the wiki, the project died down....up until now.
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Because now, I would like to announce that the first major hurdle in making Tfc demonstration weapons, namely that of getting a proper demonstration map, has been overcome! For that reason, I will present you 4 different demonstration maps that I had created.  Why 4, you may ask? Well I knew that as a very much novice map maker, I could not possibly make a good demonstration map from the first try; so I decided to make multiple different maps and ultimately let you, *the community*, collectively decide which of the presented maps should be used for demonstrations. This of course means that any criticism, praise, suggestions and comments about the upcoming maps is very much appreciated and wanted. It must also be noted that many of the maps shown here are not complete. In fact, this is a deliberate choice, as I first wanted to get community feedback about the overall layout and "feel" of the map, before decorating them with details and whatnot. Anyway, here are the maps:
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1st map is called Wind_tunnel, and its demonstration video can be found [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-JTrTQfCJY here]. 2nd map is called backup_final ''(keep in mind that these names are only temporary, the chosen map will be renamed into tr_lolim)'' and its demonstration video is [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls2gSuL8UeA here]. 3rd map's name is tr_karma, which you can see [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmQq4fRJy4U here]. And finally, the 4th one is called tr_lol_test_tfc and can be found [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJu0naNRJNc here].
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The maps are chronologically ordered, meaning that the first map ''Wind tunnel'' is oldest/earliest one that I created, while ''tr_lol'' is my final one. As you can see, ''Wind tunnel'' and ''Backup final'' are the most completed maps, featuring an outdoors obstacle course section, a pit, as well as a grenade testing range. However, the other two maps shouldn't be judged for their lack of such things, since the outdoors part can easily be copied from the other two and added on. Of much, '''much''' greater importance to me is knowing whether the main testing chamber/firing range, as well as the overall layout/architecture is of satisfactory enough quality to be used for a professional and official setting like the Team Fortress Wiki.  Further more, here are the wireframe overviews of some of the maps listed: [[File:User Lolimsogreat2 tfc1.png|15px]] (Wind Tunnel), [[File:User Lolimsogreat21 tfc2.png|15px]] (tr_karma), [[File:User Lolimsogreat21 tfc3.png|15px]] (tr_lol)
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Once again, I leave it up to the community to decide which of these maps is the most valuable one; or if my mapping skills are that bad, if none of them are worth while, in which case I will happily scrap all 4 maps and start over again. This time, hopefully, it wont take me 2 years to finish a new batch :D. As for download links, I didn't provide them since once again; the maps are not finished and are expected to undergo many revisions, both as I and the community see fit. However, if someone really wants to see/edit these early maps for themselves, they can contact me in private and I can provide both the .bsp and the .quark (the map making engine) file.
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* '''Lack of proper bot programs''': It is true that online, you can find many bot programs compactable with tfc, however none of them can be used for demonstration purposes. Namely, all of those programs are combat bots. The ones which move around and shoot you. Even worse, except for the command to spawn them and change their difficulty, they cannot be in anyway controlled or manually manipulated. I eventually took one of these programs and delved into its files, where I erased the waypoints the bots use to move around. This fixed the problem of them moving around, since now when they spawn, they get permanently locked into place. However they still lock on and target hostile bots and players, and they keep trying to "escape" their prison by constantly hopping in place. I'm contemplating picking up programming and simply creating a bot program myself, but that will certainly take time.
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* '''No damage indicators''': Tfc doesn't display any damage numbers when you damage someone. I haven't found any mods that seem to add them, meaning that the only way to know the damage you dealt is to use the console. However, I do not know could this be presented in a video format.
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That seems to be it. While I wait for community feedback, I will continue to try and find workarounds/fixes for these problems. Thank you for your attention :D! [[User:Lolimsogreat21|Lolimsogreat21]] ([[User talk:Lolimsogreat21|talk]]) 09:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Lolimsogreat21
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:I'm not going to lie, this project has been entirely stagnant so there's clearly not much interest from anyone actually involved in the project. It's easy to say "yeah this is a great idea", but then when it comes to actually doing it, others have to figure it out. The maps were the least of our worries, as they can be made easily, and definitely not the biggest hurdle. The bots and damage numbers will most likely require game modification to work, or at least a good knowledge of the game (for the bots). Otherwise, it'll always have to be two people, which requires servers too. This just seems like way too much work to figure it out, so I think if this hasn't been solved in 3 months I might just indefinitely shut it down.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 13:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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::As fascinating as it is, and the work is appreciated, I feel as if it's just far too much work from a recording an editing standpoint, especially without damage numbers and everything that TF2 has its gonna be pretty hard to record any sort of demonstration unless you go through the whole process of manually adding numbers to the video to indicate damage. Unfortunately I don't believe most would be able to cope with all that work. <br>[[User:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Cheddar'''</font>]] • [[User talk:Cheddar|<font color="#193940">'''Talk'''</font>]] 13:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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:::I can see that the general outlook on this project is quite pessimistic, which I can understand perfectly. However, there have been more developments that I've made this week, which could bring this proposal one more step closer to realization. Namely, the [https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Foxbot Foxbot] bot program, which almost certainly isn't intended for the purposes I'm trying to shoehorn it into, is actually quite a bit more flexible then I initially thought and reported to you. Turns out that with some careful and delicate usage of the waypoint system, it is possible to (crudely) manipulate and somewhat exert control over the bots. Couple this with the skilfull usage of something called ''waypoint tags'', and I managed to actually bug out the bot's navigation, to the point where they become completely docile and unmoving, ready to be used for demonstration purposes. Finally, the command {{code|botsdontshoot}} ensures that they won't target me, allowing me to even control the direction they are facing.  While this setup cannot be saved, meaning that every time I load a map I need to do the whole procedure again, it works perfectly and looks something like [https://youtu.be/4aBWMRW6rHo this]
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:::Only minor issue still remaining is that when the bots get killed, they will respawn back into their "unbugged" state and start jumping and moving about. Since the command {{code|mp_respawn_time}} doesn't work, and there is no way to stop them from respawning, I simply solved the issue by disabling chat messages and then binding one of my keys to the kick command and immediately kicking the bot upon death; if I'm fast enough they wont even get to respawn. (In the video they did, hence the loud obnoxious sound in the background). Finally, the Foxbots have a couple of tricks up their sleeves over their tf2 counterparts, namely the {{code|botcam}} command, which allows me to see from the pov of the bots, which could be immensely useful in demonstrations, but I've yet to do extensive testing on it.
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:::I consider the bot issue solved, leaving only the damage numbers remaining, however things got complicated here. Turns out, I was wrong in believing that the console shows damage received by other players, or if it does, I don't know how to get it do that. This not only means that there are no damage numbers shown during the actual testing, but there is no record kept of the damage another player received at a given moment, from which damage numbers could then be extrapolated and edited in during the post production. This is actually fine for most weapons. There is no damage falloff in tfc, meaning that a single shot from, say the nailgun, will always do the exact amount of damage at all ranges. Meaning that as long as all shots hit their target, I can simply count the amount of ammo a weapon consumed and then add in damage numbers. The real trouble makers are the Shotguns and the Assault gun, who fire multiple pellets/buletts per single ammo, and have a wide spread, making it impossible to know the exact damage dealt unless at extremely close ranges, where every shot is expected to connect. I'll still looking for a solution to this, so wish me luck. [[User:Lolimsogreat21|Lolimsogreat21]] ([[User talk:Lolimsogreat21|talk]]) 22:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Lolimsogreat21
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::::This sounds like a ton of effort, and definitely not worth it nor easy to get into for the average person. It's possible, but having to rely on the bots being bugged out and having to do this every single time to do something. This is just too much effort, unless it can be done easily I don't see much of a point.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 23:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
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::::: Well If ease of demonstration is such a problem, there might be a way to remedy it quite easily. Checking out the [https://apg-clan.org/vbdownloads.php?do=download&downloadid=980/ Foxbot download site], it seems that a {{code|botdontmove}} command, which is something that would drastically cut down on the setup process, is actually on the developer's to-do list. And since the last update to foxbot came out in July of this year, it isn't out of the question that the next update could also arrive relatively soon, at least sooner then your 3 month deadline... However, in my opinion, there is no reason to wait any further. I have the maps, I have the (semi-functioning) bots and I can demonstrate 12 out of the 19 weapons (not counting the grenades) by simply guessing the damage numbers with reasonable accuracy. So unless someone gets any army of alternative accounts, or multiple players are willing to come together for a demonstration (which clearly won't happen and is very expensive), then this is the way the cookie will crumble. [[User:Lolimsogreat21|Lolimsogreat21]] ([[User talk:Lolimsogreat21|talk]]) 11:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Lolimsogreat21
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::::::Unforutnately, the way the cookie will crumble is the project being scrapped. Damage numbers are is the biggest thing to show here, if they're based on a guess and not going to be natively supported, the project will just be scrapped instead. The reason to wait is because the whole purpose of these videos is to show off the weapons, if you can't show off the damage properly with damage numbers that are entirely accurate instead of a "guess with reasonable accuracy" then we're not doing it yet. Even if you know the damage entirely, having to individually add these for each weapon is way too much effort.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 12:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
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::::::: Alright alright, I can see that I didn't express myself clearly enough/forgot to say something important, so forgive me please. Namely, there is ''a way'' to see how much damage you've dealt someone in tfc, and that is to hop into the spectator team and hover over other players, which will display their armour and health. So in theoryyyyy (say when demonstrating the shotgun); you can pop one shot into the opponent, hop into spectator and see how much health is left and then go back to blue team, use some kind of autoclicker/script in order to return to the same mouse position, and repeat the whole process again. Afterwards, you can simply cut out the whole "you checking the bots' health" in order to make it appear as if the shotgun was firing continuously, and use the knowledge to add in damage numbers (simply extrapolate the damage by seeing how much of bot's health was left in every incriment of firing from their base health). Is this very difficult to do, yes. But like all the other things in this project, what matters is that it's possible, atleast to me. Now, is this a genuine and native demonstration? No. Does it involve pulling a bit of wool over the viewer's eyes? Yes. But judging from the talk at demonstration for [[Team Fortress Wiki talk:Weapon Demonstration#Chemistry Set|Chemistry set]], it seems that the wiki is fine with using illusions in order to make something appear to happen rather then actually happen. So I see no problem with it.
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:::::::Anyway, here is the prototype of the first Nailgun demonstration, damage numbers and all included. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6M8yjxNdOU] [[User:Lolimsogreat21|Lolimsogreat21]] ([[User talk:Lolimsogreat21|talk]]) 20:08, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Lolimsogreat21
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{{Outdent|8}}There's a difference between "pulling a bit of wool over the viewer's eyes" to save on costs, and having to manually add in each damage number, move each of them, and do that for every single time there's damage. The font and music don't really match up, as they're both meant for TF2. As much as I'd like this to succeed, having to (after EVERY shot) hop into spectator to find out how much damage was done and writing it down to then edit it is too much effort. Even if something ''is'' possible, like I've mentioned a few times, if it requires as much tedious work as having to shoot once, go to spectator, view health, note down health, return back to position, and repeat it's just not worth it. We've seen this with cosmetic items that had Pyroland assists, no one wants to do them, it piles up, and eventually we just scrapped them entirely.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 21:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
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As of right now, doing anything with Team Fortress Classic is too difficult. I've archived the topics, perhaps in the future when it's easier we will attempt it again.<br>[[File:BLU Wiki Cap.png|20px|link=List of Wiki Cap owners]] {{!}} [[Help:Group rights|<span style="color:green;font-family:TF2 Build;">s</span>]] {{!}} [[User:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">GrampaSwood</font>]] [[File:PraisetheSun.png|20px|alt=Praise the Sun!]] ([[User talk:GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) ([[Special:Contributions/GrampaSwood|<font color="DB9C1F">contribs</font>]]) 18:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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== Timestamps on all videos ==
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As the name suggests I'm interested in providing new/updated timestamps for the majority of the existing wiki videos where it may be applicable, as well as making any new ones when new videos get uploaded. I would create a doc with all videos listed along with timestamps written down for each of them. <br>-- [[User:Nemesis07|Nemesis07]] ([[User talk:Nemesis07|talk]]) 23:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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:Timestamps could be good. However, the weapon demonstration videos don't really have a structured order so it could be tedious to make timestamps for those videos. I only added them to some videos like the medic mvm shield · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 03:57, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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::I sorta agree with Ashe. I don't think timestamps are really necessary for most videos. The majority of demonstrations are really short (2:00 or less in most cases) so I don't think there would be a big benefit to timestamps for every single segment. Seems like more work than it would be worth for most demonstrations. [[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''Mediarch'''}}]] [[File:User Mediarch PFP.png|25px]][[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ff66cc| ♥ }}]][[User talk:Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''Talk'''}}]][[User:Mediarch|{{font color|ff66cc| ♥ }}]][[Special:Contributions/Mediarch|{{font color|ec5c69|'''My Edits'''}}]] 14:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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== Getting existing playlists up-to-date and adding new ones ==
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Currently the channel only has a couple of playlists that doesn't include all of the videos, I'm interested in helping create additional playlists for all of the videos to potentially make it easier to find certain videos. <br>-- [[User:Nemesis07|Nemesis07]] ([[User talk:Nemesis07|talk]]) 23:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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:People dont' really use playlists, and the ones that currently exist are for group of "unique" videos. Making a playlist for all the weapons or per-class wouldn't make sense · [[User:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">Ashe</font>]] ([[User talk:Ashe|<font color="DB9C1F">talk</font>]]) 03:55, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

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Contents

Tools

Chemistry Set Chemistry Set

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Demonstration link

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Old discussion (2020)

Hi, just made a vid demonstration about Chemistry kit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2uEkaw6Jbs&feature=youtu.be What should i do next? ~ Fokus 03.06.2020 16:50 GMT+2

Hi there,
You now have to wait for WindPower to respond. He usually does this every week on Sundays, though he's very busy nowadays.
My advice on your video is: Don't start in the Main Menu, start in the backpack (first page) instead. Make sure your backpack's page is also clear of other stuff, so when you finished using the chemistry set it doesnt go to the third page and you'll have to drag it from there. Show yourself using the Chemistry Set, too, it's part of its functionality. Your video also seems to have a delay between sound and the video.
It also lacks editing.
GrampaSwood (talk) 15:05, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
> he's very busy nowadays
You give me too much credit. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for tips. I fixed the video, now it should be much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fgON6QQ6Mk&feature=youtu.be
Fokuskii (talk) 23:53, 3 June 2020 (UTC)
The same problem applies with the backpack. It should start on the first page (that's empty except for the required items). The section where you hover over the chemistry set is too long, perhaps make it 1 or 2 seconds. The same thing applies to the end, show the strangifier being applied. It also lacks fading (A lot of these things can be fixed with simple editing, but I think the pages thing will have to be done with a new one :\)
GrampaSwood (talk) 13:10, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
The video should also be 1080p (your first version was 1080p but the second version is 720p). Agreed with all other comments — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I have both an alt and a professor speks chemistry set for this demonstration, I just have yet to find the password to the account...
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:36, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey, was wondering if this was still open? I can do a possible version with a collector chemistry kit but not sure if it matters if it's strangifier or collector's. God'sWrath (talk) 01:15, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

It's still open, although a collector's kit may be too large as it would require showing all 100 items added.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:13, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
Ah, alright so what if I show a strangifier first and add a section for the collector's where I only put 1 in but I put disclaimer stating it's x amount of x items and not 1 item for a collector's kit? So video doesn't drag out. God'sWrath (talk) 03:41, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
Just pick a simpler, cheaper chemistry set like in the first video · Ashe (talk) 05:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

I've reserved this but I've been thinking it over and I'm not sure if it's really necessary. The Strangifier demonstration shows the exact same process of completing a chemistry set to acquire a strangifier and then applying it to the item. Both demonstrations would bassically be the same. Do we really need two demonstrations showing the exact same thing? Or what should this demonstration do to be different from the Strangifier demonstration? Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:01, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

I'm about to craft some of my handshake chem sets. I have two clean ones but I'd rather not craft them and use my partial ones instead. One of these partial ones requires 198. I am thinking I can show a clean one, open it, fill in the first page (drag half, double click half) then do a fade cut where I've swapped to the 198 one on the last page with all the other pages filled in and actually craft that one instead. Within the crafting window there would not be any difference since the input page count for both is 17, there is just 6 on the last page instead of 8 but you would not notice this unless you did the math. If this is acceptable, do you want me to showcase the 4 pages of handshakes required for crafting it or just the 1st page with the chem set and 49 shakes? Jh34ghu43gu (talk) 03:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
A demonstration would have to show each individual one being dragged in. However, if you can smoothly transition the clips in a way that makes it seem like all were filled in on the same one and there's no difference, then that would be fine too, as long as the illusion of it being one chemistry set is there.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 12:43, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Double click doesn't even work, don't know why I thought it did. Will probably get to this in 2 weeks after my finals. Jh34ghu43gu (talk) 11:07, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
Example of transition previously described https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ROeqQWSgU Would obviously craft in the real thing and hover over the item in my first page. Jh34ghu43gu (talk) 05:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
Double click indeed does not work. However, I think you should show every single one being filled in. I get you want to use your mostly-crafted one already, but I think the way to go here would be to try and transition mid-craft, rather than fading like that. This way, it requires a precise setup and some editing, but it can be done.
For this reason, I think you should try and get the transition approved first. The way I would do this is film the backpack + dragging in, then at a certain page (preferably one where you need to click on the next page of Handshakes as you're filling it out) you stop. Then you take your partially-filled one, record yourself with the exact same mouse position (you can do this using autoclicker, for example, which has a built-in "click at location" button) clicking to the next page of Handshakes, then once you've finished putting them all in drag your mouse off-screen and wait ~0.5 seconds. This way, you can simply do the actual crafting part afterwards, once we approve this transition.
If done right, this should look like one seamless take, but not use your other clean chemistry sets.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 00:18, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlDW77LISq0 Transition is between 39s and 42s Jh34ghu43gu (talk) 09:06, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Looks good, though the video lags a bit around that time as well, so it would have to be re-recorded.
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Something Special For Someone Special Something Special For Someone Special (Tool)

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Old discussion (2019)

Hi. I know this item is quite expensive for someone to make a demonstration, but I was thinking, a video showcasing how the item works (which the purchaser's choose they person), and then, on the same video, showing the chosen player's screen perspective, showing the option to accept the proposal, and after that, showing the notification on the Main Menu for the accepted proposal.
Considering the high cost that would be making this demonstration, I wonder if Valve could gives us a hand and supply one for our demonstrations purposes, as long we delete both rings after doing the full video.
It seems that the process is mostly the same as the Gift Wrap, but I have no idea how are the things when someone receives that Gift. We also lack a proper Gift Wrap video, apparently. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 19:26, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

Keep dreaming, valve won't even fix server issues much less give us free items. If you are planning to make a demonstration though, better ask windpower for some super detailed instructions to make sure it's right the first time. Naleksuh (talk) 21:37, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, they have the ability to both give and delete items, it could work? Yes. Will it happen? We don't know. If there's anything we can do, is ask for someone who plans on buying one legitimately and asking them for help. Last time that the item got in 50% off, a lot of people bought one, so. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:01, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
If you give it some time, I could save up to get it and try to make it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:16, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
I offer to give a 50 USD Steam gift card to anyone who has already gotten an item demonstration video approved and uploaded in order to make this demonstration, and then another 50 USD Steam gift card upon video approval. I'm not sure what the price of the item is in other currencies but I'll also match that if possible as long as it's not too much more expensive. Please make sure to record both sides (sender account and receiver account). — Wind 23:00, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Well, I guess we should start discussing how should it be done. Firstly, I think the Gifter should be named "Scout" and the Recipient be "Miss Pauling". Scout has the Scout avatar (184x184 version from Steam), while Miss Pauling can use this. I think the name could be something along what Scout would say, my suggestion, name it as "You are really frickin' sweet". That'd go nice, eh?
Secondly, I don't know who's going to be the Recipient. Should we create a Steam account just for that, or should we rely with another Video Demonstration Creator to do a collab? User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 23:55, 21 July 2019 (UTC)

well how about we can hit two birds with one store and do the ring and the Upgrade to Premium Gift from the same two account?, First the two account would demostrate the Upgrade to Premium Gift which the sender should buy it from the store and send to the receiver who don't have premium. them Recycle the same account to do the ring. We could make a story out of it as well from friendship when a user gifted the premium to the other use then after few days they both got engaged via the sender would give the ring. It won't end up a awkward situation. but for this situation we need 4 people to do the ring tho 2 sender reciever, 2 regular tf2 player to recieved the message one in the tf2 main menu and the other while in-gameJomarcenter (talk) 14:27, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
That's a cute story, but let's keep the demonstration to just one item (the ring), not the Upgrade to Premium Gift on top of it. — Wind 22:17, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
I don't know what you're talking about, wind. Story time is clearly more important than the actual video. (but in all seriousness the two accounts would be okay to reuse right?) Naleksuh (talk) 04:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, sure, it would just be two separate videos — Wind 23:39, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

I kind of thought the role playing names were unnnecessary to begin with, and could also cause confusion as to whether or not those texts always appear in game. But if WP or thed feels that's the best way to do it without commercializing it then oh well for me.
The two steam accounts would be kinda hard to sync up (and would also be a waste of $100), i'm willing to be proposed to if no one else will :) Naleksuh (talk) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
No need for roleplaying. It's cool if you want to do it but totally optional. — Wind 06:26, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

I guess I should give an update on this. I'm still up for doing this one. The plan was to do it with Cheddar but currently a lot of the community wanted to boycott spending money on the game because of the bot situation so Cheddar wanted to delay this until....idk when. Valve just banned the majority of the bots and new bot hosting accounts are getting banned as they're being created so I think now is as good as time as any to do this demo. But I can't do it by myself so I need to talk with Cheddar_ and see if he's still available for it or I need an assistant who's willing to help with it. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 11:17, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

I get that you don't agree with the decision but the sassy "delayed until Idk I guess" comments are pretty annoying. No one can see in the future as to when stuff like this will cool down. If I say something like "do it in a week" and it's still an issue in a week, you would've been upset too.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 11:59, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
I'm not trying to be sassy. I'm not complaining. Sorry if it comes off that way. That's not my intention. It's just been nearly two full months with zero communication about the status of the demonstration. Reservations are technically only valid for two weeks so I simply wanted to make sure that everyone knew that I was still planning to do it. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 12:41, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
I could be of assistance. It seems that all of the bots are gone, so might as well do it now before anything else happens again.
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Backpack Enchantment Eternaween.png Enchantment: Eternaween

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Action

Fancy Spellbook Fancy Spellbook

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Fireproof Secret Diary Fireproof Secret Diary

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Kritz or Treat Canteen Kritz or Treat Canteen

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Taunts

Crushing Defeat Crushing Defeat

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Demonstration link

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I would say it is a little bit too fast, but this is just my opinion, let the moderators decide.
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Looks good. Thanks · Ashe (talk) 20:42, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Commending Clap Commending Clap

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Demonstration link

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The transitions between classes need a little work. You can see the inventory including the other taunts like Conga and Killer Joke when you first click on the taunt for a couple frames. For the outro I usually fade out the game audio so the ambient noise fades as the screen fades out. Other than that I think it looks good but I'm not a mod or anything just my two cents. Also, I would probably wait for the taunt to be tradable just so the text isn't on there. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 22:45, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

Looks good now. Thanks · Ashe (talk) 22:01, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

Punchline Punchline

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It needs to be demonstrated with all spy guns, like the Roar O'War · Ashe (talk) 23:34, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Fore-Head Slice Fore-Head Slice

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Curtain Call Curtain Call

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Peace! Peace!

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Need to be redone

Fortified Compound Fortified Compound

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Crusader's Crossbow Crusader's Crossbow

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I removed the clip from the previous demonstration when the medic is building his übercharge with the crossbow, the actual changes make it way too long. VideoThedop (talk) 14:44, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

The picture-in-picture clip is too large and covers the center of the main video's vision. So when the heavy/spy turns to see the medic, it just doesn't show up on the screen. Please decrease the size of the picture-in-picture — Wind 00:38, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
Second tryThedop (talk) 06:45, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
The Minigun is still hiding the medic when he's firing... — Wind 00:07, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
*sigh* Thedop's demonstration has been in hiatus for two years. Maybe I can make my own demonstration if Thedop doesn't mind. — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 06:43, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Demonstration reservations are only valid for 2 weeks. If the reservation tag remains on a video and no action has happened since, you can ignore the reservation and replace it with a reservation of your own. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
Oh, and by the way, don't forget to add a demonstration of healing afterburn (probably the most common type of status effect). Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 23:17, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
Definitely doable for making an entry about using Crossbow at point blank range to both hit enemies and heal teammates. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 21:06, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm going to at least make an attempt at this since the last discussion regarding the Crossbow demonstration was two years ago. Any advice would be appreciated, since this is my first wiki contribution. (And yes, I know how to edit) Jk6419 (talk) 02:25, 27 August 2024 (UTC)

Due to IRL responsibilities that have recently popped up, I am removing my reservation. My apologies. Jk6419 (talk) 04:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Holiday Punch Holiday Punch

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I kind of felt Holiday Punch could possibly be redone such that it demonstrates its interaction with cloaked and disguised spies. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 08:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Not very practical, but sure, if anyone's up for it — Wind 04:11, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
Not sure if I have to create a new section for the Holiday Punch or add information on an already existing one, but there's several things that probably should also be demonstrated:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that enemies underwater doesn't laugh on the back / critical hits, which therefore, they don't receive damage (The map used for demonstrations does not have water, though)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that punching an enemy at the back / doing a critical hit on an enemy that is jumping / is on the air, has no effect, and does no damage
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's possible to tickle enemies that are being Ubercharged, possibly include both the patient and the Medic being tickled
  • Tickle the patient first, show that it's still in the effects of Uber, and tickle the Medic second, that would probably be more ideal, so it shows that when a Medic is tickled, his target loses the healing / ubercharge
  • Perhaps also demonstrate the Quick-Fix ubercharge, since it mentions it blocks "movement-impairing effects", which isn't the case for the Holiday Punch (I'm pretty sure you can still get tickled with the Quick-Fix uber)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Scout with the effects of Bonk! can be tickled
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that a Soldier with the Battalion's Backup active, as well his teammates receiving the Backup effect, can still be tickled
A few other ones that I am unsure about:
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that it's not possible to tickle robots and giant robots on MVM (I don't think we often make MVM-related stuff on these demonstrations, unless it's an unique mechanic like the Projectile Shield)
Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate that an enemy who is taunting does not get tickled, and that it receives no damage on critical hits Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
The tr_karma_rc1 map has water (see Sydney Sleeper demonstration here). I use that map for demonstrations, as it is preferred (according to the Weapon Demonstration page). — Exaskliri (they/them) (talk | contribs) 09:23, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
No to the Quick-Fix + Bonk + Battalion's Backup things; as the project page states, non-stock item interactions are usually not demonstrated, in order to avoid having a full explosion of weapon interactions to demonstrate. The Quick Fix one also sounds like a bug, so usually that isn't worth demonstrating either because it has marginal utility and may eventually get patched, which would just create more video work later down the line. But all the other points are good to demonstrate, so +1 that a redo is in order for this one — Wind 04:49, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

I have an idea on how the new video might be represented:

Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic, Spy)

  • Do the same actions as was done in the original video

Part 2: Basic Interactions Do the same actions as was done in the original video, demonstrating Kritzkrieg on Soldier (via friendly Medic) and Jarate on Demoman (via friendly Sniper), plus another for Medic interactions.

Part 2a:

  1. Approach friendly Kritzkrieg Medic, who has full charge
  2. Get charged with the Kritzkrieg buff
  3. Keep punching the enemy Soldier until the buff wears off
  4. Punch again while the buff is off, and keep doing it until the Soldier dies

Part 2b:

  1. Approach friendly Sniper holding Jarate
  2. Let the Sniper throw Jarate at the enemy Demoman
  3. Attack the Demoman normally while he is Jarated
  4. Attack the Demoman from behind while he is Jarated
  5. Kill the Demoman normally again while he is Jarated

Part 2c:

  1. (This is where the new stuff begins) Approach an enemy Medic who is healing a friendly enemy Scout with his Medi Gun
  2. Attack the Scout from the front and behind
  3. Enemy Medic activate Medi Gun invulnerability
  4. Do the same as Step 2 onto Scout except while Übercharged
  5. Do the same as Step 4 except on Medic

Part 3: Versus Mittens Heavy

  1. Approach the enemy Mittens Heavy
  2. Attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. Watch him laugh.
  3. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. Watch yourself laugh.
  4. Mittens Heavy will swap out Holiday Punch for Minigun.
  5. Attack the Heavy with your Holiday Punch.
  6. Swap your Holiday Punch for the Shotgun
  7. Mittens Heavy will swap out Minigun for Holiday Punch
  8. Let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch.
  9. (This is where the new stuff begins) Jump, and while mid-air let the Mittens Heavy attack you with his Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  10. Go behind the Mitten Heavy's back
  11. Let the Mittens Heavy jump, and attack the Mittens Heavy with your Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 4: Spy Interactions View from the Heavy's and Spy's points of view, with a smaller video on the top-right (or something like that) for the Spy's point of view.

  1. Approach the enemy Spy
  2. Let the enemy Spy cloak
  3. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.
  4. Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)
  5. Attack the Spy with your Holiday Punch from behind. There should be no laugh.

Part 5: Taunts and Water

  1. Let the enemy Engineer taunt from his Shotgun. It should be the one where he dances around.
  2. While the enemy Engineer is taunting, attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.
  3. Repeat Steps 1 and 2 except attack him from the front.
  4. The enemy Engineer runs to the water. Follow him into the water.
  5. Attack him from behind with the Holiday Punch. There should be no laugh.

Part 6: Robots

  1. Approach an enemy Robot, preferably the Holiday Punch Heavy Robot.
  2. Attack him with your Holiday Punch from the front, and then attack him from behind. There should be no laugh.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 02:51, 8 June 2022 (UTC) Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 10:08, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

Very detailed, nice. — Wind 22:48, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
By the way, I also think that it would be helpful to add a section dedicating to observing a duration comparison for all Schadenfreude taunts. I have a feeling that the length of the taunt has an impact on gameplay of the Holiday Punch. So maybe we could do a section where 9 Holiday Punch Heavies simultaneously attack one of each class, which demonstrates the time it would take to get out of the forced animation. Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 01:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
Might be cool if only for the comedy of it all. — Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)
On "Part 4 - Let the enemy Spy uncloak and disguise as any class (maybe the Heavy again)", why not make the Spy disguise as the Heavy, and make sure that the Holiday Punch is active? The Spy won't be able to laugh, but I wonder if you (the player), would laugh. In case that happens, then it would be important to also showcase trying to punch the Spy from behind without having him with the Holiday Punch active. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 03:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Actually, never mind. For some reason I thought you also laughed with who you just punched that is also wearing the mittens (it commonly happens when both Heavies hold their left clicks after being tickled). But, the Spy wearing the Holiday Punch may be the best scenario here, so it shows that the disguise is not lost (although make sure to show also without the mittens active, and, when the mittens is active for Spy, punch him from the back, then punch him from the front). Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 13:08, 18 February 2023 (UTC)

Power Up Canteen Power Up Canteen

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I feel like I can do a demonstration for this one. But my canteen is a crafted version so it has my username on it. Is that acceptable ? Kaezle (talk) 04:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

If you right click on it you should be able to remove that. Naleksuh (talk) 06:22, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
I think the stock version (Normal quality) should be used over the Unique one, considering all players have it. User Gabrielwoj Signature Icon.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 04:23, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Chargin' Targe Chargin' Targe , Tide Turner Tide Turner , and Splendid Screen Splendid Screen

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Demonstration link

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Should these be redone to show that they remove debuffs such as Jarate, bleeding, afterburn, etc.? If so, which effects should I specifically show?
GrampaSwood (talk) 08:31, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

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  • Soaking, Jarate is preferable as it make the screen yellow tint.
  • Fire, simple burn from Flamethrower.
  • Bleeding, from Southern Hospitality?
  • Mark for death, from Fan O'War
I think those are all. User Hinaomi Hinaomi-sig.png Rikka Takanashi (talk) • (contributions) 12:47, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Yes, that would all be good. — Wind 05:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I think the Eyelander clip should probably be synced up better, or go one after another. I think the flame stuff should be done using the Flamethrower instead, as getting killed shows "Pyro carrying Cheddar's", try to also get a clip with a Pyro firing their Flamethrower and you charging through it, showing that if you get hit after the charge starts the debuffs don't get removed. Otherwise, looks good.
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Looks good, only missing the clip with the mid-charge debuff being applied. You can do this using Jarate too if you find that easier (since it has splash).
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Looks good, the only thing I would change (if the demo needs other changes) is to have the Jarate in the second Jarate clip be thrown on you mid-way through the charge, rather than at the start (but after you already started charging).
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The fire overlay doesn't appear in the fire clip · Ashe (talk) 03:27, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Quick-Fix Quick-Fix

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Old reservation (29 April 2021)

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  1. (1:14/1:24) On the first scene demonstrating the Quick-Fix's basic functions, I did the same as the old one, plus damaging myself and the patient Heavy while being Ubered, demonstrating that the Quick-Fix's Uber doesn't reduce incoming damage. I also damaged myself (the Medic) twice instead of once.
  2. (2:09/2:39) When demonstrating the Quick-Fix's heal rate in comparison to the stock Medi Gun, while mostly the same, I used a recently-injured Heavy, so that the heal rate (for each medigun) is at the slowest. I used an offscreen pistol Engineer (hence why the starting HP is 14), teleport commands, and r_cleardecals, so it should look neat.
  3. (2:17/3:01) I demonstrated the knockback immunity from Quick-Fix's Uber the same way, but now there's health and Ubercharge HUD.
  4. (2:56/3:47) I did the "mirror blast jumping" part outdoors, although it might not look neat. I'm sorry.
  5. (3:26/4:17) I demonstrated crit healing (after the recipient doesn't take damage for 10-15 seconds) with the Quick-Fix's Uber in addition to the non-Uber Quick-Fix. Yes, the 3x healing rate Uber stacks with the crit heal.
  6. (3:53/6:56) I redid the "Uber build rate comparison on different HP threshold" because the old one didn't have the Quick-Fix as the second healing beam, hence it doesn't explain if the second healing beam alone would slow down the Quick-Fix's Uber build rate (the Quick-Fix has 125% maximum overheal, lower than the usual Uber build rate penalty at 142.5% overheal).
  7. (4:26/5:06) I demonstrated the Quick-Fix maximum overheal limit and decay rate on Scout vs. Heavy as well as comparing it to the stock Medi Gun's overheal in addition to the "maintain overheal above 125%" that the old video demonstrated. For the last part, I only used one Heavy, as the aforementioned added demonstrations make up for that, and I maintained the overheal above and below 142.5% overheal (Uber build rate comparison) as well as healing the Heavy when the overheal goes down below 125%.
  8. (4:46/8:32) For the "healing disguised Spy" part, I have two enemy bots (Heavy and Demoman) so that the Spy doesn't disguise as a Demoman named "Medic". Both bots are injured, so my disguise will be healed, too.

Pictogram comment.png The new ones (the timestamps refer to the new demonstration):

  1. (7:39) Demonstrating stock Medi Gun's Uber vs. Quick-Fix's Uber (the latter doesn't reduce incoming damage, but prevents incoming knockback unlike the former) and the fact that they have same duration (barring the stock's lingering effect). Also has Quick-Fix's Uber without incoming rockets to demonstrate that the duration is the same.
  2. (7:58) Ubering multiple teammates at the same time drain faster than Ubering a single teammate alone. Also, only the aforementioned Ubering multiple teammates drains Uber faster; Ubering an injured teammate drains at the same rate as Ubering a healthy teammate (fully overhealed) and not healing someone when Ubered.


I did the "Uber draining when dropped" part, but both mediguns show "Dropped by Exaskliri." Is it allowed? I gave the bot the Quick-Fix via bot_mirror command. https://youtu.be/0ZlwvHZrjdU Exaskliri (talk) 04:27, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
Nothing you can do about that, that's just how it shows. Shouldn't be too noticeable and there's no point in going through the trouble of setting up a server and getting a buddy to join only so it doesn't show. Though the confusion on where the quick-fix actually is should be redone so it doesn't look like you are looking for it.
GrampaSwood (talk) 10:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
  1. I just did the "mirroring the explosive jump" part, though I don't think it looks neat. Is it OK? https://youtu.be/NQo1iTxQSEA Exaskliri (talk) 03:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  2. Just finished the whole demonstration. I just need to attach the segments. Exaskliri (talk) 15:15, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
  3. Just finished uploading re-uploading the new Quick-Fix demonstration video to YouTube and MediaFire.
  1. https://youtu.be/hj5FuFVFV2U
  2. https://www.mediafire.com/file/kx7kbaik5vwpwyj/Quick-Fix_Weapon_Demonstration_Video.mp4/file
Exaskliri (talk) 08:08, 6 May 2021 (UTC)
I don't see any problems, except for the the explosive jumps scenes, that looks a bit laggy, and in general the quality, that seems to be more like a rendering issue, though shouldn't be a problem · Ashe (talk) 04:40, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
I'm fixing the video right now (quieting projector sound, incorrect fade out time, etc.). Gotta reupload soon. Exaskliri (talk) 10:39, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
Just uploaded the fixed version of the Quick-Fix demonstration video. Exaskliri (talk) 13:01, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
This is spectacular work, thanks a lot! Just two comments, none of which should require a lot of work to fix hopefully:
  • Video quality also seems to have the same artifacts as the Winger demonstration. Please increase the bitrate. Unlike the Winger demonstration, I understand that a demonstration this long could take forever and use a lot of bandwidth to upload twice (to YouTube and to MediaFire), so if the video quality is approved for the Winger demonstration is good enough and you've used the same settings for re-rendering this demonstration, feel free to just upload the higher-quality Quick Fix demonstration to MediaFire only, in order to avoid having to upload the huge file twice.
  • There is an audio/video glitch at 9:56 - 9:57.

Wind 05:46, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

You finally responded! Thank you so much. The video/audio glitch is from the .dem recording, so I had to conduct another play, especially since it involves another player. Exaskliri (talk) 15:12, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
Alright. Can you upload the new version? — Wind 04:40, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Kritzkrieg Kritzkrieg

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I think I'll take this one! Greenfox (talk) 20:51, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

Please sign your comments using ~~~~.
GrampaSwood (talk) 20:56, 22 October 2022 (UTC)

sorry! Greenfox (talk) 06:27, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Could anyone give me advice on how to do this demo? For one thing, this part of the video isn't possible with the new map, and I am not sure what to do.
User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 00:37, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Off the top of my head, you could use the wooden separator near the back of the room. So long as its clear the beam disconnects because something is physically between you and the healing target, it shouldn't matter.
Kibblekip T | C 01:10, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Also, I'm trying to make a script to make the bots move, like in the part where the soldier is Übercharged, for example.
User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 18:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
It's easier to just ask someone for help.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:08, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
I am asking for help.
User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 19:41, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
I believe they mean asking someone to join the server to make some clips easier to get.
Kibblekip T | C 05:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
What map should I use to demonstrate capping the points?
User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 03:32, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Every other Medi Gun demonstration uses Badlands, so just use that.
EDIT: Clarification, Badlands (Control Point) specifically should be used, not the KOTH version.
Kibblekip T | C 12:57, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Trading demonstration

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We can make the same Medic and Heavy conversation joke.

Alright, it seems that Steam won't allow me to change the Trading window language for some reason, so i'm leaving this to a English-speaker user · Ashe (talk) 04:55, 27 February 2022 (UTC)
I don't think we should redo this just for this reason; there may be more UI changes to that process in the future, and it seems unnecessary. — Wind 00:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
I think it's necessary. It's the little things that count anyway. If I could do it, should I record the footage of me verifying the trade on my phone?
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RED Teleporter.png Teleporters

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I think the current demo is a bit messy, so I'm making a new order: First clip (showing basic things, requires 3 people):

  • Build entrance (no speeding up), watch it fully unfold.
  • Build exit (speeding it up). Take Teleporter once it's fully built.
  • Fully upgrade to level 3 using 3 pre-spawned full ammo boxes. Upgrade to Level 2 on the Exit, and upgrade to Level 3 on the Entrance (showing both sides share upgrades).
  • Friendly takes the Tele, enemy player (non-Spy) tries to take the Tele, then an enemy Spy tries to take the Tele (undisguised).

Second clip:

  • Third screens: left screen shows Tele Entrance being selected from PDA, middle screen shows Tele being selected from PDA, right screen has Tele pre-built and picks it up. All 3 put it down, left stares at it, middle hits it, right stares at it (showing off build speed vs wrench hitting vs redeploying).

Third clip (requires 2 people):

  • Third screens: Level 1, 2, and 3 from left to right. Shows friendly player getting teleported, then walks back to entrance and waits for another teleport. Do this for 3 teleports in total. Alternatively, we take another 2 people. They stand in a line and take Teleporter as I watch. Tele brings them to an off-screen place, and I (Engineer) stop on it last. Both teammates look at the Engi, say a thank you voice line. The last bit is only for a bit of humour, so I can understand if we just take the first option only.

Fourth clip:

  • Either a single screen (my preference) or one-third screens: Spy walks on Tele undisguised, gets teleported. Walks back to Entrance, disguises, gets teleported. Walks back to Entrance, takes Disguise off, then cloaks and stands on Tele.

Fifth clip:

  • Spy saps Tele Exit, stand on Tele (showing no teleporting), remove Sapper, repair Tele (shows both sides get healed at the same time). Switch sides, Spy saps Entrance, remove Sapper.

Sixth clip:

  • Third screens: Spy saps Tele, wait until it dies. Level 1, 2, and 3 from left to right.

Seventh clip (requires 2/3 people):

  • Enemy Heavy stands on Tele Exit, I go through (killing him). I walk back in front of Entrance, Medic with Über pops it on patient (who walks on Tele), I go through (killing him). Medic stands on Exit (with Über still), I kill him. If possible, the first Übered player should have respawned by now as a Spy, noclipped out of frame, then walks onto Tele entrance, going through and telefragging me (Engi).

Optional extra clips: Eureka Effect clip:

  • Half screen: left has stock, right has Eureka Effect. Both build Tele, grab one of the 2 large ammo boxes in front of them, and start upgrading their Teles. Eureka Effect finishes first as it only needs 200, Stock requires 400.

Setup time clip:

  • Shows extra fast upgrading of Teles.

If I missed anything, let me know, but this should be all.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 15:03, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

I think this covers pretty much all there is for teleporters.
CheddarTalk 15:57, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Amputator Amputator

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I recorded most of this but medic's health regen is completely random as far I can tell. I can't get the clips to line up so I can properly demonstrate the increased health regen so I'm removing my reservation for the time being. I might try again some other time to brute force it but it doesn't seem promising Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 18:34, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Not having them be synced up is fine as long as it's clear that the Amputator goes faster.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:55, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
That's not the issue I'm having. It's the part where you're showing that it only regenerates faster while you are actively holding the amputator itself. The original video has a 3-way splitscreen with the left side being Amputator, the middle having the Amputator equipped but switched to hold the medi gun, and the right holding the stock bonesaw. I can't the medi gun side and bonesaw side to sync up so it looks like one of them is slightly faster than the other. One of the two is always slightly faster or slower which makes it really difficult to properly demonstrate that part. Even the actual health you gain each tick is slightly variable from what I can tell. I had 6 different clips and synched them all up and they all finished at different times and would have different health values despite all other variables being equal. All 6 clips started at the same time but all 6 of them have different HP https://imgur.com/3NVTjSG. My only thought for a fix is I could try to cheat and essentially just crop the health bar from one of the clips and paste it onto the other so that way they are perfectly synced up. It'd have to be a seamless edit though which is pretty hard to do. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 19:15, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
I'd argue that so long as there is a reasonably larger difference in time between when the Amputator while held reaches full health to the Bonesaw and Medi-Gun clips, even with a minor difference between the latter two the point should get across. Syncing them up would be difficult unless you used a config file to automate the clip upon spawn, as AFAIK Medic regenerates health based on a set timer even while at full health, meaning health can start being restored seemingly inconsistent to when he takes damage.
Kibblekip (talk) 00:26, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Thermal Thruster Thermal Thruster

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This video was created when the rule was just "at least 30 fps". Now, the knockback clips are a bit random and doesn't properly show the actual effect. Maybe the demonstrator can show it by placing a pyro aiming upwards and make it airblast them. The clips would be in badwater roof, the left clip without the thermal just falling off from it and the right clip, jumping with the thermal onto the pyro. · Ashe (talk) 17:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Natascha Natascha

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Ubersaw Ubersaw

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I don't think it's necessary to show the Spy stabbing you during the Über, I would change that to just holding out the Ubersaw and watching it drain. It looks a bit awkward running into the Spy attacking like that. I also can't tell if the video is too low FPS or if it's just Google Drive, so Ashe will have to be the judge of that. Other than that, looks good.
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Looks like the FPS is good, I do think the ÜberCharge bit should be changed, however.
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Added updated ver. Myrmxa (talk) 19:47, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

The sound is very quiet. In the first clip, I would wait until the entire ÜberCharge is over before doing the taunt (hold out the Ubersaw to watch the liquid drain). Another clip already shows that you hitting someone mid-ÜberCharge extends the duration.
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Machina Machina , Shooting Star Shooting Star

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Machina Shooting Star

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Might as well add in the Shooting Star too. If possible, during the fully charged damage segment, show side-by-side that the Machina can't fire while unscoped. Andreng (talk) 13:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Looks good.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 23:31, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
I'm not convinced to the dmg comparison clip. I think it would be better if you make a comparison with a Demo instead. To make the Machina kill the demo with one shot, try to damage it with one shot of the smg · Ashe (talk) 20:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Ap-Sap Ap-Sap , Snack Attack Snack Attack , Red-Tape Recorder Red-Tape Recorder

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Battery Canteens Battery Canteens

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Classic Classic

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Part 1: The Main Gang (Pyro, Soldier, Medic)

Start with the Pyro, Soldier, and Medic, plus the enemy Sniper as shown in the current video.

  1. Inspect the rifle
  2. Scope the rifle without manually charging. Pause for a few seconds.
  3. Charge the rifle to full while scoped. Pause for a few seconds.
  4. Let go of the charge while scoped. The Sniper should make a shot in the process.
  5. Pause for a few seconds and unscope.
  6. Charge the rifle to full while unscoped. Pause for a few seconds.
  7. Let go of the charge while unscoped. The Sniper should make a shot in the process.
  8. Shoot the Pyro with a quickshot bodyshot at the middle of his body, where there is little chance of accidentally hitting the headshot hitbox. Specifically, aim at his middle flame grenade.
  9. Move the crosshair to Pyro's head.
  10. Shoot the Pyro's head with a quickshot "headshot".
  11. Shoot the Pyro's head again, but with a partially charged "headshot".
  12. Aim at Soldier's head, and kill him with a fully charged unscoped headshot.
  13. Aim at enemy Sniper's head, and kill him with a fully charged scoped headshot
  14. Aim at Medic's head, and attack him with a scoped partially charged "headshot"
  15. Move the crosshair to Medic's body, specifically slightly to the left of his lower visible button right above his glove.
  16. Kill the Medic with a fully charged scoped bodyshot.
  17. Aim for the wooden Soldier target with a non-scoped headshot.
  18. Aim for the wooden Soldier target with a scoped fully charged headshot.
  19. Taunt.

Part 2 – Sniper Movement 1

Three split videos of Sniper, left and middle with Classic, right with Sniper Rifle. This will demonstrate that charging slows down the player.

  1. Begin charging the middle Classic. Also begin charging the normal Sniper Rifle.
  2. Move forward to the garage door.

Part 3 – Sniper Movement 2

Two split videos of Sniper, both with Classic. This will demonstrate that releasing a charge returns the speed back to normal.

  1. Begin charging the right-hand side.
  2. For the right-hand camera, release the charged shot by shooting at anywhere in front.
  3. Move forward to the garage door, with no charged shots on either of them.

Part 4 – Scope and Cancelling

Be at a tall location, enough for room to jump up and down. When doing the switching of weapons, make sure the weapon switch menu is visible, not just performing a quickswitch.

  1. Aim straight.
  2. Charge the Classic to full, and then switch to the SMG. Switch back to the Classic.
  3. Repeat Step 2 but switch to the Kukri, then back to the Classic.
  4. Scope and jump.
  5. Unscope the Classic.
  6. Charge the Classic and then jump and shoot. The "cancel" noise should play, implying you can't shoot while in mid-air.
  7. Charge the Classic to full and then jump and shoot. The "cancel" noise should play, implying you can't shoot while in mid-air.
  8. Charge the Classic while scoped and then jump and shoot. The "cancel" noise should play, implying you can't shoot while in mid-air.

Part 5 – Fall, Land, and Shoot

At the bottom of the ground is a Heavy. You will jump down and charge your shot as you fall from mid-air, then shoot the Heavy once you're on the ground.

  1. Charge the Classic.
  2. Fall while still charging.
  3. Shoot at the Heavy while you are on the ground, still with your charged shot ready. If done correctly, Heavy should be able to be dealt more than 50 damage.

Part 6 – Fall and Mid-Air Shoot

At the bottom of the ground is a Heavy. You will jump down and charge your shot as you fall from mid-air, then shoot the Heavy mid-air.

  1. Charge the Classic.
  2. Fall while still charging.
  3. Attempt to shoot at the Heavy while in mid-air. If done correctly, Heavy shouldn't be shot because the bullet was not actually shot.

Part 7 - Damage Comparisons, Non-Charged

Comparisons with shooting a Heavy near the garage door. Have four clips, top is Classic, and bottom is normal Sniper Rifle. Top-left is Classic quickscope bodyshot, top-right is Classic quickscope "headshot", bottom-left is normal Sniper Rifle quickscope bodyshot, and bottom-right is normal Sniper Rifle quickscope "headshot".

  1. Start from the "natural" aiming position, and specifically point towards the head if the clip is a quickscope "headshot".
  2. Shoot the Heavy off cooldown, with the listed comparisons involved.

(Heavy is chosen because, unlike the Pyro, the 45 versus 50 damage actually makes a difference to who dies first; Pyro dies in four shots with both rifles for quickscope bodyshots, as opposed to Heavy who dies in 6 with 50 damage and 7 with 45 damage.)

Part 8 - Damage Comparisons, Charged

Comparisons with shooting a Heavy near the garage door. Have four clips, top is Classic, and bottom is normal Sniper Rifle. Top-left is Classic full bodyshot, top-right is Classic full headshot, bottom-left is normal Sniper Rifle full bodyshot, and bottom-right is normal Sniper Rifle full headshot.

(Heavy is chosen because he is killed with three shots from Classic full bodyshots, but two shots with normal Sniper Rifle full bodyshots.)

  1. Scope from all rifles and charge them immediately (or automatically in the case of normal Sniper Rifle)
  2. Shoot the Heavy off cooldown, with the listed comparisons involved.

For the damage comparisons, Medic could also be used, as a normal quickscope bodyshot takes 3 hits to kill him, or 4 with Classic quickscope bodyshots, and for full bodyshots just either 1 or 2 hits. The light classes won't work, neither for the moderately bulky classes like Pyro and Demo. Soldier also doesn't work for the full bodyshot stage, as he dies in 2 shots for both types.

There's also the interaction with cancelling a charge in water, but not sure if that specific interaction is necessary to demonstrate.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk) 06:33, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Reserve Shooter Reserve Shooter

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Forgot to add this here after checking the existing demonstration for reference on how best to handle the Direct Hit's airshot clips on tr_karma_wiki, only to see some clips were also absent for this weapon too.
Kibblekip T | C 07:02, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Battin' A Thousand Battin' A Thousand

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Southern Hospitality Southern Hospitality

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Noticed this while watching the existing demonstration. Currently it shows afterburn inflicts 3 damage per tick (4 with SH), when it is now 4 damage per tick (5 with SH).
Kibblekip T | C 00:51, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Invis Watch Invis Watch , Cloak and Dagger Cloak and Dagger

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Quäckenbirdt Quäckenbirdt

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While I was checking over the invis watches to see which ones included the updated afterburn damage, I realized this demonstration was missing the comparison entirely.
Kibblekip T | C 01:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Warrior's Spirit Warrior's Spirit

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Question, how exactly should I show the damage difference? Scorchshotgaming (talk) 17:48, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

The same way other damage penalty/bonus weapons do.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 17:52, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
I am still having the bug where my game freezes. Maybe I can’t do this demo after all. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 18:01, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Other

Mannpower Powerup King.png Mannpower powerups

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Pictogram comment.png Demonstrate all powerups.
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Hello, I had a question about preforming/recording this demonstration. Mannpower has a domination mechanic (Not to be confused with dominations), this mechanic works by when a player has many more kills than other players on the enemy team, and so that player gets nerfs on their power ups. I'm guessing I would have to demonstrate this in the video, however I do not know how to activate it. I have not been able to activate this on myself in tr_karma, however even if I did, the player who is dominating does not get the message on their screen showing that they are dominating. The only effects the player who is dominating sees is they are marked for death if they have a power up, and a nerf on that power up for that player. I don't know how I would go about demonstrating the effects of domination mechanic, considering the viewer wouldn't know that being marked for death with a power up means you are dominating. If I were to get the domination mechanic to work, should I just show the class as marked for death, or something else? Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:51, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

This does sound hard to demonstrate. If you enable third-person mode, do you see the skull icon above the player's head in the 3D world (not on the HUD)? If so, here's a structure that might work:
  • Spawn enough enemies on the map such that you can reach domination status, and still have enough enemies left over to show that the effect isn't about killing *all* other enemies.
  • Start the demonstration in first-person mode.
  • Switch to third-person mode.
  • Kill enough enemies such that domination status appears.
  • Highlight the correlation between the third-person skull icon and the HUD one, for example by zooming in on both at once, or drawing a red box around both or something.

Now you've established that "skull on HUD" = "having killed enough enemies".

Now, demonstrate each powerup one by one. For each powerup, do a split-screen, with the left being non-dominating, and the right being already-in-dominating status. Pick up the powerup on both clips and demonstrate the effect. The skull icon being visible on the clip on the right should be enough of a hint that this is the cause. If not obvious enough, you can draw attention to it at the beginning of the clip, such as by drawing a red box over it or something.

Hope this helps. I suggest doing a test demo with just one or two powerups demonstrated and posting it here first before doing all the work it would take to get this all done for all powerups, as there are a lot. (Perhaps each powerup should have its own video? That's a separate question...)

Wind 21:39, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

I might try my hand at this, but only after I finish my other demonstrations and receive feedback and corrections for them. Po1yb1ank (talk) 23:56, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Heavyhumiliation.png Match outcomes

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So there's a bit of a problem with showing the other angles with this demonstration, as you can't actually rotate the camera. Despite it being in third person, you cannot change the angle of the camera nor use +left or +right to make only the camera move. Any attempt to move the camera either doesn't work or makes the character move along with the camera. My original plan for this demonstration was the following:

  • Show a split screen with a player on RED team on one screen and player on BLU team on the other screen
    • The RED player would capture the intelligence on 2Fort, and the other screen would show the BLU player in humiliation after they lose
      • This part would repeat for each class
  • It would then cut to tr_karma where I would rotate the camera around the class when they're standing, crouching, running, etc
  • After this I would move on to the next class until all of them are done

However I can't do this because I can't rotate the camera, does anyone have any ideas on how to rotate or have other ideas of how to demonstration and show the different angles?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 22:47, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

How about just use the RED player to see the BLU humiliation animation. Like:
RED player is the main camera, BLU player is a bot/a smaller pip/split screen in the video
  1. BLU player stands beside the intel point
  2. RED player captures the intel and win the game
  3. BLU player enters humiliation
  4. RED player look at the BLU player
  5. BLU player moves around to show off the humiliation animation.
I feel like this also shows off the concept of "match outcomes", make the whole story connected via one team wins and see another team loses with humiliation animations. Do we have to use tr_karma map for demonstration? Is this demonstration video about "match outcomes" or "humiliation animations"?--AlexT 03:19, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Simply using thirdperson_mayamode it would be possible to show off these animations from a stationary angle (turning your character rather than camera, although tr_karma/tr_target have no winning objective, so you'd need a different map for it (I suggest Thunder Mountain and standing in first BLU's spawn so it's still somewhat related to the tr_target map, using mp_bonusroundtime to extend the time at the end and just capping the first point).
GrampaSwood (talk) 11:01, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
I'm a bit confused on what you mean on the capping part, as you say to stay in BLU spawn, but also cap the point to win which would make BLU would win and RED would be in humiliation. Do you mean to make the time run out so RED wins instead?
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 23:24, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Either works. Just any way to make the classes go into the humiliation pose. I personally wouldn't mind it that much if RED was in BLU spawn, but it's up to you.
GrampaSwood (talk) 12:33, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
I went in game to test out thirdperson_mayamode, and it does not work, as for some reason the losing animation isn't considered as in "thirdperson" by the game I think. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Only other way I can think of is using SourceTV, however I don't know how to set that up.
Andrew360 Edit icon.png Taunt Rancho Relaxo.png 01:15, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Item icon Saxton.png Versus Saxton Hale

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Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png Zombie Infection Zombies

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Questions and Proposals

Note: This section is for questions and proposals that aren't specific to a single weapon. If you think a demo ought to be remade, then make an entry for it in the Need to be Redone section above and it will be dealt with.

Item icon Voodoo-Cursed Heavy Soul.png Zombie Infection Zombies

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Hello, I am Slimyboi500. I will be doing the demostrations for each zombie in Zombie Infection.

Why, you may ask? Unlike normal gamemodes, the BLU team (or in this case, the zombies), have different abillities than normal:

They also have different effects, like different amounts of health and speed. The zombies only can use melee attacks however, which makes it harder to kill.

Let me know if it's a good idea or not.


Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 17:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

If we're doing this, I think there should be a demonstration made for each gamemode, rather than just Zombie Infection. Although ZI has gotten an introduction video now that shows off the mode pretty well, so I don't believe it is necessary.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 17:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
The introduction is missing a few key details, such as not showing the Soldier or Heavy's abilities. I feel like it would be a good idea. Such as like there should be a demo for VSH.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:12, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
It doesn't show each ability, but it does overall show the gamemode very well and I think does a sufficient job. Although, again, if we are making demonstrations for this, I think one should be made for each gamemode.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:18, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Yes, I think there should be one for each gamemode.
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 19:41, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Remember to also indent your signature and to keep your answers above the hidden comment.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 19:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
Still, is that a yes on the idea?
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 20:28, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── I'm voting no, but other people might be in favour of it. Profiteer was, for example, so I'm waiting for more input.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 20:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

I vote yes for the Zombie Infection zombies (as well Saxton Hale on VSH), but not for other gamemodes. I consider these zombies kinda like "new weapons". They all have different abilities, passives, first-person views, etc. I'm not quite sure if there needs to be a demonstration regarding the human part (only if demonstrated humans being infected by zombies upon dying), and perhaps the only thing related to humans would be that zombies drop small healthkits (because it's related to them, the zombies). A showcase of each zombie class, its ability, and some human interactions like being infected by them, and, killing them as humans, would probably be a nifty video package. Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 22:34, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I'm all in for ZI and VSH demos, but a significant issue would be future balance patches to the modes. Each balance patch so far has significantly changed the zombies, and if we had already made the demo, we would have to redo the video for each one of these updates, which would result in multiple uploads of the same video over and over again and a lot of work (and given how we can barely keep up with the current demos in the backlog...). Maybe instead of a gamemode demonstration, we could simply do a "zombie class demonstration" ("Zombie Sniper", etc.) and a "mechanics demonstration" (weapon modifications, gamemode-specific elements). This way, if a zombie is changed, we wouldn't have to redo the entire video. — Tark 22:51, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
I will do the demo as soon as I get enough votes for it
----Slimyboi500 (talk) User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg 18:42, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
Voting yes for the demo, ZI and VSH seems stable...for now at leastProfiteer(奸商)the tryhard (talk) 11:05, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Voting yes for ZI and VSH videos. Videos per zombie for ZI is a good idea. Now, we'll have to wait for the upcoming ZI update, in which I think will be the last one with gameplay changes? · Ashe (talk) 23:39, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
The only issue is that the maps aren't fitted well for demos, and I can't find out how to turn into zombies on normal maps. The same goes for VSH too.
User Slimyboi500 Logo.png User Slimyboi500 Profile.jpg Talk Speech voice.png Contribs Wrench IMG.png Steam Steam tray.png 00:51, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── The VScript would have to be ported over, as well as all the assets. Alternatively, doing all of this on an existing map of those game modes.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 00:55, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Flippin' Awesome and Skullcracker in VSH

When Saxton Hale used Flippin' Awesome or Skullcracker, the other mercenary participating the taunt will be taunt killed, is this something worth remaking the taunt demonstration? Or we just keep the current taunt demonstration, but add this feature into the VSH demonstration? --AlexT 18:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

I think a VSH demonstration would be better, as it may be confusing why Saxton Hale is suddenly there when he's not normally playable.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 19:52, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Yes, a demonstration regarding VSH, showing all Hale's abilities, and some unique taunt interactions, would be the most ideal (including his default taunt kill). That one would probably be more lengthy, and some things would probably require to be discussed beforehand. Like Mercs being able to wall climb (which is applied to even stock weaponry), should that be shown too? Headphones style when? - User Gabrielwoj Signature 1.pngUser Gabrielwoj Signature 2.png - User Gabrielwoj Signature 3.png 20:31, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
I think maybe a demonstration for every game mode could be in order, as a sort of semi-tutorial created by us. A VSH one would fit that too.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood (talk) 08:33, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Configs for partner taunt demonstrations

I've created some configs for partner taunt demonstrations. It automatically spawns 2 bots, places you in the starting position, and has another small command ("teleport") to input after it to teleport both the bots to the right position. It binds H and J to the bots performing taunts, H = BLU bot does taunt, J = RED bot does taunt. They're all class-specific and automatically kick any other bots there. There's no way (right now) that I know of to update the weaponref.zip, so if anyone needs it I can forward you a zip of the files. Just let me know on my talk page (or if you know of a way to update weaponref).
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 23:56, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

New tr_karma and requirements

I've been working in the past week in fixing some issues tr_karma has and some new guidelines. The changes to tr_karma are:

  • Increased lightmap quality in the interiors
  • Fixed a "checkerboard" texture in the gas cylinder, the ceiling fan and the cardboard boxes
  • Added chat scripts to enable noclip (!n in the chat), regenerate (!r), spawn an ammo pack (!am) and enable demonstration server settings (!demo) (these commands are available also in the new tr_karma_basic.cfg)
  • Fixed the func_buttons in the wood targets only working once, thus displaying the hit particle once
  • Removed Tough Break cases and the Gargoyle prop as they didn't fit the ambience
  • Removed the mining cart prop in the rails due of a lighting issue
  • Repacked the map, reducing the map size from ~91 MB to ~18 MB

The link to the download and new proposed guidelines are here. Check them out and give feedback · Ashe (talk) 16:38, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Issues with tr_krama and tr_krama_event

When I start a local server and load tr_krama/tr_krama_event, it won't load (probably because it doesn't exsit) lights/shadow making the map super bright, this only happens on 2 krama maps, I tried to download a modified version of tr_krama on workshop and it worked perfectly, pretty sure something is missing in the map file from weaponref.zip.Profiteer the tryhard (talk|contribute) 05:59, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

It works fine on my end.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 10:11, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
Join the IRC to help you @Profiteer · Ashe (talk) 21:33, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
@Profiteer do you have HDR enabled? · Ashe (talk) 16:50, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Question about 2D and 3D player models

A question I've had for a while about weapon demonstrations is, is there a specific reason that 2D player images in the HUD are standard rather than the 3D player model (be it for performance, consistency, or any other reason), also considering that 3D player models are enabled by default? The 3D model could also generally be more useful for certain cosmetics or demonstrations. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 16:47, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

they're buggy, eat up frame rate on a lot of systems, and aren't really necessary. I don't think they really add anything of value to the videos so my vote would be to keep them disabled. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 16:50, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
As far as I know, there's no real reason that we prefer one over the other. 3D models are enabled by default, but it may have just been something that was done for a while and became the standard.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 16:57, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Fair point, it would obviously be a massive hassle to redo every demonstration with a 2D player model. Also for some people I suppose keeping them off improves framerate. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 19:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's because when they were added to the game, it caused lag to a lot of people. The recent 64 bits update fixed the 3d character using a lot of cpu and now it shouldn't affect fps (although i guess modern pcs didn't have issue with it anyways) · Ashe (talk) 15:21, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

Mastercomfig question

I am planning to make a demonstration, and the recommended requirements state that Mastercomfig High/Ultra is preferrable. However, I highly doubt my PC is able to run Mastercomfig High/Ultra properly and all the other high graphics settings. Is it acceptable if I use Mastercomfig Medium High and use average graphics settings? May look slightly lower quality than a typical reservation, but I don't think much will be affected. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:44, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Ultra is preferable, but setting your game to all max settings should suffice.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:45, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Well, I'll look through some configurations, and if I find one that looks high enough quality without sacrificing my computer's performance I will use it (my PC is not too high spec, to say the least). My demonstration is for the Cleaner's Carbine; once you review it tell me your thoughts. For me this is especially important because I will need to screen record this too. Scorchshotgaming (talk) 21:48, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Closed Captions/Subtitles

Random thought today for a low priority task: creating subtitle files to explain what is being demonstrated during the videos. Potentially beneficial for new players; for example, and what made me think of this, during the pomson video we're shown a spy POV getting hit by the pomson to demonstrate the cloak drain, which is only noticed if the player is looking at the cloak HUD element, which is pretty easy to miss (imo), especially if you're new and have no idea what's going on and are just looking at the engie firing the shot.

Looking at youtube supported formats I'd reckon TTML is probably the way to go since it supports positioning (important imo) and styling (not very important imo). I've found this open source editor which supports TTML and offers a built in video-from-url import for syncing. - After messing around for a bit, positioning seems very disconnected between the previews in that app and actually uploading the files to youtube, although once the proper settings are found it should be a breeze to copy paste the templates before submitting, might investigate after finals done next week if I can remember.

On the admin side of things, seems like it's about 5 clicks to add a subtitle file. Subtitle editor permissions exist so it doesn't have to only be one person officially implementing these (which is what uploads appears to be if I'm not mistaken). Potentially the actual subtitle file contents could be put into this project's page as subpages e.g. Weapon Demonstration/Subtitles/Pomson 6000 Weapon Demonstration/Subtitles/Pomson 6000/es and then create a category to mark them as ready to upload/update. Jh34ghu43gu (talk) 19:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Investigation has been made, a combination of the subtitling software aegisub and a corresponding converter app work wonderfully. No positioning nonsense like all the other editors I could find and they offer style + positional templates so everything can be standardized. I've uploaded an example for half of the pomson demo (creating templates and finding the software wore me out too much to finish it rn). 240p bc I have .1kbps upload and can't be arsed waiting to upload HD. Jh34ghu43gu (talk) 06:27, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
The issue is actually uploading the subtitles. I've actually uploaded subtitles for all intro videos back when we uploaded the zombie infection one and it was such a pain... I took me days. YouTube has a way to bulk upload them, but it seems limited to business accounts, which we are not and can't apply for.
A request that is very frequent, and something that I've done a few times, is adding timestamps for when something happens in a video (c this video - a commenter asked to add timestamps for each minigun). I think we could do that more often out of courtesy (it actually does help), but not as a requirement for demos. — Tark 17:41, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
As mentioned, there is a separate permission for subtitles. Seems like you can also upload the subtitles from an API. Potentially this can be combined with the subtitle page idea and have a bot with a subtitle permission yt account to automatically upload them from the wiki. Jh34ghu43gu (talk) 18:37, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
I personally don't like the idea of describing it with text, as I'm afraid we or the people might get reliant on it, rather than the textless demonstration. Plus, it'll likely become outdated very fast.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 19:25, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Achievement Demonstrations on the official TF Wiki YouTube channel

Weapon demonstrations are very helpful in letting newer players know how a weapon fires or how an unlock's attributes affect standard gameplay, while keeping older players up-to-date on balance changes. But what if we assisted players of all kinds in learning how to earn TF2's 520 achievements? Introducing Achievement Demonstrations! (Video)

"Why demonstrate achievements?"

TF2 has hundreds of achievements, with many having rather vague descriptions. Thus, actively attempting to earn them may seem daunting to many players. Demonstration videos would provide clarity and encouragement to both newcomers and achievement hunters alike.

"How should achievements be demonstrated?"

Any achievements showcased should be earned in intended ways, utilizing simplest methods. This page should serve as a general guide. Weapon unlocks and cosmetics should be avoided unless essential to earning the achievement. General achievements that are earnable by any class should feature the Scout by default. Demonstrations should be primarily versus bots, though versing another player will be necessary at times.

  • Taunt kill and Deathcam-related achievements: Should feature the victim's Deathcam perspective of the player earning the achievement.
  • Achievements involving performance of a repetitive task over a lengthy period of time: Should be presented with a fade effect representing a time lapse, with only the start and earning of the achievement needed to be shown.
  • Milestone achievements: Could be accomplished with either a brief compilation of the prerequisite achievements being earned, or with a simple showing of only the final achievement popup, along with the associated achievement item being claimed from the notifications menu.
  • Achievements requiring Steam friends: These will require alt accounts or coordination amongst contributors.
  • Unobtainable achievements (ie certain Replay achievements): Should be presented with a note informing watchers the achievement is currently unable to be earned.
  • Joke achievements: A demonstration should not be necessary for these.

"Where should achievements be demonstrated?"

Achievements should generally be showcased on tr_karma_wiki, tr_karma_event_wiki, or a variant edited in Hammer with altered bot spawn locations.

  • Arena achievements: arena_karma_wiki.
  • Capture the Flag achievements: ctf_karma_wiki.
  • Control point achievements: cp_karma_wiki.
  • King of the Hill achievements: koth_karma_wiki.
  • MvM achievements: mvm_karma_wiki. Can utilize custom waves.
  • Payload achievements: pl_karma_wiki.
  • Map-specific achievements: The official map associated with the achievement. MvM maps can utilize custom waves.
  • Event-related achievements: tr_karma_event_wiki or an edited variant.
  • Replay achievements: Should only use replays taken from one of the maps listed above.

$ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ (talk) 19:43, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Pictogram minus.png Con My personal vote on this would be a no. I just don't see the need and it would feel spammy. The majority of achievements are pretty self explanitory. The few that are vague are thouroughly explained in the "Obtaining Achievements" type pages. This would be a massive ammount of work to produce and aprove all of these for what feels like very little to no gain in my opinion. Producing hundreds of videos explaining basic things feels like a huge waste of energy. I could maybe see an argument for making "official guides" for some of the more convoluted achievements but the wiki definitely shouldn't be making hundreds of videos covering basic stuff like "Destroy 3 teleporter entrances". Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 20:15, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
Time and energy are non-factors as I am entirely willing to solo produce these if needed. And even basic achievements have their nuances. Per your example, does "Destroy 3 teleporter entrances" include ones that are being constructed? What about ones that are being sapped? Do destruction assists count? Et cetera. $ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ (talk) 20:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
I've heard that quite a few times about different projects, this is not something you will finish, trust me. I personally don't believe these add much value, some achievements are very self-explanatory, and the how-to is exactly why we have these pages. It's a neat idea, but there's too much that would go into these (including needing to pretty much reset all your achievements each time). If a project is going to be made, it needs to be accessible for everyone, or at least more than a few people willing to reset all their achievements.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 22:17, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
It took only a few hours to make/edit the 5 example videos, the rest of the time I spent working on this project was spent planning and mapping (I had to learn how to use Hammer). Realistically, it would only take a few months for me to complete them all, and that's just with one person working on them. As for resetting achievements, Steam Achievement Manager is a facilitative way to modify your Steam achievement progress at will. $ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ (talk) 23:18, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
And to refute the idea that a lot of the achievements are "too basic," this same logic could apply just as much to any other demonstrations: weapons can simply be playtested by anyone booting up the game and firing them a few times, taunts can be freely previewed in the Mann Co. Store, all the cosmetic videos exist simply to show they can earn assists, and so on. Meanwhile, a great deal of achievements are rather specific or obtuse in how to actually earn them and would greatly benefit from a video demonstration. $ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ (talk) 23:43, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────There is no real refuting here, this is people giving their opinion. The issue is that, yeah, it's possible to do this on your own, but if you're going to have to make 520 videos you're going to give up at some point. As for Steam Achievement Manager, that's an outside program that may or may not be considered a cheat by Valve (at the very least, we don't wanna rely on this program to have to reset specific achievements). Weapons can be playtested, unless you don't have them. Taunts can be previewed in the store, except it doesn't show off M1/M2, and doesn't show off a full taunt (intro, loop, exit). Cosmetic demonstrations aren't being made anymore because they're all the same, so we scrapped them.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 23:58, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

SAM is moreso a debugging tool than a cheat. I'm certain most people use it to earn bugged achievements that wouldn't activate for them for whatever reason. That argument aside, I am more than willing to continue working on this project if given a greenlight, or in the case the greenlight only comes after a certain trust is built, I'd still be working on it until then. I'll provide updates, including more videos, more maps, thumbnails, etc. The only achievements I might need outside help with are the ones which require multiple Steam friends. $ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ (talk) 00:13, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
It's not much of a debugging tool, but there are in-game features to reset achievements, too, which is what we would use instead. The Wiki being official means if we officially require people to use that program, it's a form of endorsement, which is not something we want. Many achievement demonstrations would also simply not be interesting or very hard to demonstrate (winning 142 rounds of a map, collect 1 million MvM credits/killing 1 million robots, destroying 100 enemy stickybombs with the Scottish Resistance). Some would also not be a proper demonstration: Winning a map without losing a control point on Hydro or winning a round of Well within 5 minutes would just consist of either regular gameplay or an empty server where you run on control points. The former is too much for a demonstration, and the latter is not demonstrating anything. Also note, this is the last message I'll leave here (but I will still watch the conversation) as I don't want the convo being stopped by a constant back-and-forth and possibly have people not engage in the conversation because of it.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 00:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
I can see the rationale behind wanting to use the more 'official' means of resetting achievements, and I will aim to utilize that from now on. As far as whether or not an achievement is demonstrated "properly," this is entirely subjective, as achievements can be earned in a variety of ways outside the intended/idealistic means; I merely wish to provide an example of the most basic methods which anyone can reliably follow. Whether or not a demonstration is "interesting" is also subjective. I appreciate the earnest provision of your viewpoints and criticisms, and I too shall disengage from this back-and-forth to allow more opinions to be shared. $ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ (talk) 00:43, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
I really don't see the issue with using SAM or any other tool to lock/unlock the achievements as needed for the demo... The argument that we'd be endorsing it is quite absurd, this would be behind-the-scenes stuff.
That said, it is unreasonable to make over 500 videos and some achievements would be hard to demonstrate (progress ones, for example). I wouldn't be against making a "walkthrough" for some very specific achievements like the Merasmus TV one, but that wouldn't really fall under this project (it would just be an addition to the strategy page). — Tark 17:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
I've updated the Achievement Demonstrations folder with better organization and 50 more demonstrations! This took a little under 2 weeks. All newly-added demonstrations have been listed in changelog.txt. Feel free to give them a glance! (Note: all future project updates will be addressed via the changelog until project completion.) $ɪʀ ₱ʀɪᴢᴇ (talk) 21:30, 23 July 2024 (UTC)


Update status on the Team Fortress Classis demonstration project

Some of you here may remember when two years ago, a user by the name of @Anonymus0 decided to make a proposal about doing Weapon Demonstration videos about the Team Fortress Classic weapons. Although the wiki had no such infrastructure to support the newfound idea (Tfc demonstration maps, guidelines, rules etc.) the proposal still received mass support; thus prompting me, as well as a number of other editors, most notably Yossef, to collaborate together on turning this young idea into reality. However, despite some early success in recording, due to Yossef's family situation coupled with my vanning interest in the wiki, the project died down....up until now.

Because now, I would like to announce that the first major hurdle in making Tfc demonstration weapons, namely that of getting a proper demonstration map, has been overcome! For that reason, I will present you 4 different demonstration maps that I had created. Why 4, you may ask? Well I knew that as a very much novice map maker, I could not possibly make a good demonstration map from the first try; so I decided to make multiple different maps and ultimately let you, *the community*, collectively decide which of the presented maps should be used for demonstrations. This of course means that any criticism, praise, suggestions and comments about the upcoming maps is very much appreciated and wanted. It must also be noted that many of the maps shown here are not complete. In fact, this is a deliberate choice, as I first wanted to get community feedback about the overall layout and "feel" of the map, before decorating them with details and whatnot. Anyway, here are the maps:

1st map is called Wind_tunnel, and its demonstration video can be found here. 2nd map is called backup_final (keep in mind that these names are only temporary, the chosen map will be renamed into tr_lolim) and its demonstration video is here. 3rd map's name is tr_karma, which you can see here. And finally, the 4th one is called tr_lol_test_tfc and can be found here. The maps are chronologically ordered, meaning that the first map Wind tunnel is oldest/earliest one that I created, while tr_lol is my final one. As you can see, Wind tunnel and Backup final are the most completed maps, featuring an outdoors obstacle course section, a pit, as well as a grenade testing range. However, the other two maps shouldn't be judged for their lack of such things, since the outdoors part can easily be copied from the other two and added on. Of much, much greater importance to me is knowing whether the main testing chamber/firing range, as well as the overall layout/architecture is of satisfactory enough quality to be used for a professional and official setting like the Team Fortress Wiki. Further more, here are the wireframe overviews of some of the maps listed: User Lolimsogreat2 tfc1.png (Wind Tunnel), User Lolimsogreat21 tfc2.png (tr_karma), User Lolimsogreat21 tfc3.png (tr_lol)

Once again, I leave it up to the community to decide which of these maps is the most valuable one; or if my mapping skills are that bad, if none of them are worth while, in which case I will happily scrap all 4 maps and start over again. This time, hopefully, it wont take me 2 years to finish a new batch :D. As for download links, I didn't provide them since once again; the maps are not finished and are expected to undergo many revisions, both as I and the community see fit. However, if someone really wants to see/edit these early maps for themselves, they can contact me in private and I can provide both the .bsp and the .quark (the map making engine) file.

Anyway, although the largest hurdle for this project has hopefully been overcome, there are still more technical problems that prevent me from just pumping out TFC demonstrations, they are as follows:

  • Lack of proper bot programs: It is true that online, you can find many bot programs compactable with tfc, however none of them can be used for demonstration purposes. Namely, all of those programs are combat bots. The ones which move around and shoot you. Even worse, except for the command to spawn them and change their difficulty, they cannot be in anyway controlled or manually manipulated. I eventually took one of these programs and delved into its files, where I erased the waypoints the bots use to move around. This fixed the problem of them moving around, since now when they spawn, they get permanently locked into place. However they still lock on and target hostile bots and players, and they keep trying to "escape" their prison by constantly hopping in place. I'm contemplating picking up programming and simply creating a bot program myself, but that will certainly take time.
  • No damage indicators: Tfc doesn't display any damage numbers when you damage someone. I haven't found any mods that seem to add them, meaning that the only way to know the damage you dealt is to use the console. However, I do not know could this be presented in a video format.

That seems to be it. While I wait for community feedback, I will continue to try and find workarounds/fixes for these problems. Thank you for your attention :D! Lolimsogreat21 (talk) 09:09, 29 July 2024 (UTC)Lolimsogreat21

I'm not going to lie, this project has been entirely stagnant so there's clearly not much interest from anyone actually involved in the project. It's easy to say "yeah this is a great idea", but then when it comes to actually doing it, others have to figure it out. The maps were the least of our worries, as they can be made easily, and definitely not the biggest hurdle. The bots and damage numbers will most likely require game modification to work, or at least a good knowledge of the game (for the bots). Otherwise, it'll always have to be two people, which requires servers too. This just seems like way too much work to figure it out, so I think if this hasn't been solved in 3 months I might just indefinitely shut it down.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 13:22, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
As fascinating as it is, and the work is appreciated, I feel as if it's just far too much work from a recording an editing standpoint, especially without damage numbers and everything that TF2 has its gonna be pretty hard to record any sort of demonstration unless you go through the whole process of manually adding numbers to the video to indicate damage. Unfortunately I don't believe most would be able to cope with all that work.
CheddarTalk 13:33, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
I can see that the general outlook on this project is quite pessimistic, which I can understand perfectly. However, there have been more developments that I've made this week, which could bring this proposal one more step closer to realization. Namely, the Foxbot bot program, which almost certainly isn't intended for the purposes I'm trying to shoehorn it into, is actually quite a bit more flexible then I initially thought and reported to you. Turns out that with some careful and delicate usage of the waypoint system, it is possible to (crudely) manipulate and somewhat exert control over the bots. Couple this with the skilfull usage of something called waypoint tags, and I managed to actually bug out the bot's navigation, to the point where they become completely docile and unmoving, ready to be used for demonstration purposes. Finally, the command botsdontshoot ensures that they won't target me, allowing me to even control the direction they are facing. While this setup cannot be saved, meaning that every time I load a map I need to do the whole procedure again, it works perfectly and looks something like this
Only minor issue still remaining is that when the bots get killed, they will respawn back into their "unbugged" state and start jumping and moving about. Since the command mp_respawn_time doesn't work, and there is no way to stop them from respawning, I simply solved the issue by disabling chat messages and then binding one of my keys to the kick command and immediately kicking the bot upon death; if I'm fast enough they wont even get to respawn. (In the video they did, hence the loud obnoxious sound in the background). Finally, the Foxbots have a couple of tricks up their sleeves over their tf2 counterparts, namely the botcam command, which allows me to see from the pov of the bots, which could be immensely useful in demonstrations, but I've yet to do extensive testing on it.
I consider the bot issue solved, leaving only the damage numbers remaining, however things got complicated here. Turns out, I was wrong in believing that the console shows damage received by other players, or if it does, I don't know how to get it do that. This not only means that there are no damage numbers shown during the actual testing, but there is no record kept of the damage another player received at a given moment, from which damage numbers could then be extrapolated and edited in during the post production. This is actually fine for most weapons. There is no damage falloff in tfc, meaning that a single shot from, say the nailgun, will always do the exact amount of damage at all ranges. Meaning that as long as all shots hit their target, I can simply count the amount of ammo a weapon consumed and then add in damage numbers. The real trouble makers are the Shotguns and the Assault gun, who fire multiple pellets/buletts per single ammo, and have a wide spread, making it impossible to know the exact damage dealt unless at extremely close ranges, where every shot is expected to connect. I'll still looking for a solution to this, so wish me luck. Lolimsogreat21 (talk) 22:12, 4 August 2024 (UTC)Lolimsogreat21
This sounds like a ton of effort, and definitely not worth it nor easy to get into for the average person. It's possible, but having to rely on the bots being bugged out and having to do this every single time to do something. This is just too much effort, unless it can be done easily I don't see much of a point.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 23:11, 4 August 2024 (UTC)
Well If ease of demonstration is such a problem, there might be a way to remedy it quite easily. Checking out the Foxbot download site, it seems that a botdontmove command, which is something that would drastically cut down on the setup process, is actually on the developer's to-do list. And since the last update to foxbot came out in July of this year, it isn't out of the question that the next update could also arrive relatively soon, at least sooner then your 3 month deadline... However, in my opinion, there is no reason to wait any further. I have the maps, I have the (semi-functioning) bots and I can demonstrate 12 out of the 19 weapons (not counting the grenades) by simply guessing the damage numbers with reasonable accuracy. So unless someone gets any army of alternative accounts, or multiple players are willing to come together for a demonstration (which clearly won't happen and is very expensive), then this is the way the cookie will crumble. Lolimsogreat21 (talk) 11:40, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Lolimsogreat21
Unforutnately, the way the cookie will crumble is the project being scrapped. Damage numbers are is the biggest thing to show here, if they're based on a guess and not going to be natively supported, the project will just be scrapped instead. The reason to wait is because the whole purpose of these videos is to show off the weapons, if you can't show off the damage properly with damage numbers that are entirely accurate instead of a "guess with reasonable accuracy" then we're not doing it yet. Even if you know the damage entirely, having to individually add these for each weapon is way too much effort.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 12:47, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Alright alright, I can see that I didn't express myself clearly enough/forgot to say something important, so forgive me please. Namely, there is a way to see how much damage you've dealt someone in tfc, and that is to hop into the spectator team and hover over other players, which will display their armour and health. So in theoryyyyy (say when demonstrating the shotgun); you can pop one shot into the opponent, hop into spectator and see how much health is left and then go back to blue team, use some kind of autoclicker/script in order to return to the same mouse position, and repeat the whole process again. Afterwards, you can simply cut out the whole "you checking the bots' health" in order to make it appear as if the shotgun was firing continuously, and use the knowledge to add in damage numbers (simply extrapolate the damage by seeing how much of bot's health was left in every incriment of firing from their base health). Is this very difficult to do, yes. But like all the other things in this project, what matters is that it's possible, atleast to me. Now, is this a genuine and native demonstration? No. Does it involve pulling a bit of wool over the viewer's eyes? Yes. But judging from the talk at demonstration for Chemistry set, it seems that the wiki is fine with using illusions in order to make something appear to happen rather then actually happen. So I see no problem with it.
Anyway, here is the prototype of the first Nailgun demonstration, damage numbers and all included. [1] Lolimsogreat21 (talk) 20:08, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Lolimsogreat21

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────There's a difference between "pulling a bit of wool over the viewer's eyes" to save on costs, and having to manually add in each damage number, move each of them, and do that for every single time there's damage. The font and music don't really match up, as they're both meant for TF2. As much as I'd like this to succeed, having to (after EVERY shot) hop into spectator to find out how much damage was done and writing it down to then edit it is too much effort. Even if something is possible, like I've mentioned a few times, if it requires as much tedious work as having to shoot once, go to spectator, view health, note down health, return back to position, and repeat it's just not worth it. We've seen this with cosmetic items that had Pyroland assists, no one wants to do them, it piles up, and eventually we just scrapped them entirely.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 21:15, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

As of right now, doing anything with Team Fortress Classic is too difficult. I've archived the topics, perhaps in the future when it's easier we will attempt it again.
BLU Wiki Cap.png | s | GrampaSwood Praise the Sun! (talk) (contribs) 18:01, 2 December 2024 (UTC)

Timestamps on all videos

As the name suggests I'm interested in providing new/updated timestamps for the majority of the existing wiki videos where it may be applicable, as well as making any new ones when new videos get uploaded. I would create a doc with all videos listed along with timestamps written down for each of them.
-- Nemesis07 (talk) 23:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Timestamps could be good. However, the weapon demonstration videos don't really have a structured order so it could be tedious to make timestamps for those videos. I only added them to some videos like the medic mvm shield · Ashe (talk) 03:57, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
I sorta agree with Ashe. I don't think timestamps are really necessary for most videos. The majority of demonstrations are really short (2:00 or less in most cases) so I don't think there would be a big benefit to timestamps for every single segment. Seems like more work than it would be worth for most demonstrations. Mediarch User Mediarch PFP.pngTalkMy Edits 14:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Getting existing playlists up-to-date and adding new ones

Currently the channel only has a couple of playlists that doesn't include all of the videos, I'm interested in helping create additional playlists for all of the videos to potentially make it easier to find certain videos.
-- Nemesis07 (talk) 23:37, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

People dont' really use playlists, and the ones that currently exist are for group of "unique" videos. Making a playlist for all the weapons or per-class wouldn't make sense · Ashe (talk) 03:55, 26 September 2024 (UTC)